I love what you guys do. One of the things that helped me get away from Charismania was the realization that semi-pelagianism is only steps away form Heresy. Keep up the good work - Sincerely from a Confessional Lutheran
Thank you, all for your faithfulness. I’ve had cancer and now fighting another health battle. God is good and He is sovereign. I know He loves me and what I’ve dealt with isn’t meaningless. It’s for my good and His glory.
Cancer is not for your good. None of the eternal three persons of the eternal triune Godhead YHWH ever derives any glory from you having cancer or any health issue. Renew your mind ala Romans 12:2.
@20july1944 God's common grace to all men. God so loved the world... In Greek "cosmos" that is the beautiful world he created. So he does love all men and women, because he created them. But there is special distinguishing grace that brings sinners to salvation.
Amen, @trevorwalterroutley1443, it IS such a comfort to listen to our brothers IN Christ, for there are few people who are genuinely saved! I am asking the Lord Jesus to give you a speedy recovery from your operation, ok?!😊
God doesn't try, He is the ALL KNOWING GOD, THE ALL SEEING GOD, THE ALL PRESENT GOD, THE ALL POWERFUL GOD. God does what He wants, He doesn't need our permission.
There is so much peace in surrendering to Gods Sovereignty. To KNOW nothing happens outside His Sovereign will, while knowing He alone is Good is peaceful to me.
The fallacy of Calvinism is totally evident. You cannot use it as an excuse to not fulfill Jesus' mission. 1 Corinthians 9:22. There is no place for Calvinistic Que sera sera in true Christianity. Do you realise just how terrifying the responsibility we share with the Lord when it comes to the lost. If you did you would be on Kristi Bourke's channel and those of many others by all means trying to share the truth about Jesus. You can't make others believe, but you can by all means try to persuade, try to demonstrate, to seek to bring them to Christ. Let's look at the rough statistics. ChatGPT estimates that Armenian Preachers ie Wsley, Finney, Graham are responsible for about 4-5 million conversions compared with a meagre 100,000 or so to Calvinists such as Whitefield, Edwards and Spurgeon. My case rests.
Hallelujah!!!! The daily jesus devotional has been a huge part of my transformation, God is good 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻was owning a loan of $47,000 to the bank for my son's brain surgery (David), Now I'm no longer in debt after I invested $12,000 and got my payout of m $270,500 every months,God bless Ms Evelyn Vera🇺🇸..
Same here waking up every 14th of each month to 210,000 dollars it’s a blessing to I and my family… I can now retire knowing that I have a steady income❤️Big gratitude to Ms Evelyn Vera
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
And God also doesn't trust you. We trust God, but he doesn't trust us, or "see if he can trust us," as you so often hear people saying as an explanation for a trial.
be content to which you were called. we're you a slave when you were called then don't let it trouble you. but if you can obtain your freedom then do so (paraphrase).
Thank you..Very edifying. God does what he wants. when GOD wants and with whom GOD wants. and faith is precisely trusting in the sovereignty of God that no matter what happens God rules
@@20july1944 , "That God is not pleased with the death of the wicked" even if HE Himself has to execute them, because God is terribly Holy for us so to speak, God sovereignly gives some Grace and others Justice but no one receives injustice, those who are considered righteous It is not his own justice and wisdom but a gift from God, this humiliates man and exalts God, whoever believes that God's sovereignty is limited is a fact that is an atheist, because if there is a single particle in the universe that God does not rule so God is not God... Blessings
Oh my goodness! Thank you so much! The two things that just make my gears grind is when pastors say "God tries..." or "God wants..." like there is any lack in God or His character. Bravo, Gentlemen, for calling out precision in preaching!
I appreciate you men tremendously, if not for ppl like you I’d probably be worse off, but, even with my own flaws and sinful ways, I’m becoming increasingly sick of the cognitive dissonance, deceit, complete unawareness and malicious intent going on. If not for Jesus convicting me to not be a hypocrite and to remain aware of my own need of forgiveness, my ego would have plunged me into a pit of bitterness. On some days though, like today, I’m on the edge of that pit. When it’s hard to appreciate my own luxuries like hot water and good health, I look to the beauty of God’s sunsets and bumblebees, but when my spirit is broken,listening to sober minded men like you is beauty in itself.
I thank God for men like you three and for the internet which allows me to be exposed to teaching like this. God Bless you all for your faithfulness to God and His Word.
I want to express my heart felt gratitude for everyone in this video and your solid biblical teaching. This has given me a couple of things to pray about and reflect on. 🙏❤
The LORD is absolutely awesome. In His providence He led me to watch this video after a conversation with my pastor where he said "god sometimes fails", alongside other blasphemies and false teachings while having an unrepentant attitude. Yes, his non-existent false god does fail, mine, the true God and Lord does not. God bless you brother and may the Lord continue to be glorified through you.
I just bought the book and am so excited. I’m coming out of the charismatic church and I’ve been asking God to teach me about his sovereignty. I think this book might be an answer to prayer. God bless you gentlemen. Thank you for the work that you do for the body of Christ.
God is omnipotent. He is fully in control. He cannot make any mistakes. He cannot lie. He is our sovereign God. He wants all to know Him but He doesn’t force anyone.
Yeah Ive seen Jim Osman preach and he is amazing..with his knowledge of the bible but also how honest he is..he tells the truth not trying to please people but God!
So very true...Our Lord God JEHOSHUA DOESN'T need to TRY or actually DO anything at all if HE doesn't want to. HE is sovereign in everything as upholds all things all the time to HIS pleasure!
God Doesn’t Whisper, God Doesn’t Try. What’s the next great God Doesn’t book? God Doesn’t Grade On A Curve? How about, God Doesn’t Endorse He Get’s Us? Godspeed gentlemen, you are a blessing to Christ’s church🙏✝️
I can think of no better expositor of the Scriptures alive today than Jim Osman. His sermon on baptism, for example, was the best I've ever heard on the subject. "God Doesn't Whisper" is an outstanding work; it is a must-read for every Christian. Justin and Jim's roundtable with Sam Storms and Michael Brown over the topic of false teachers was excellent (and a real eye-opener!).
"God doesn't try" is a wonderful synopsis of this video. You can see the joy and exuberance displayed as these men discuss the fact of God's absolute ability to do what he wants to do. The American Evangelical God is an Arminian God who, just as the speaker says, we have created in our own image. Not to start a food fight, but this is exactly the claim of the "Calvinists".. And I am vindicated in my claim! Near the end of the video one of the speakers actually quotes Calvin, and his gloriously comforting in doing so-
Glad to see your still with us!! After that post on facebook yesterday!! I saw that and I literally started to cry!! I couldn’t believe what I was seeing! Thank the good lord it was spam! Love you brother in Christ!! Take care Justin
God doesn't have to try! He has done and will do! He is way way above human ways..we have to try because we make mistakes..God has not and will not! Amen!
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Ok Justin based on your endorsement and recommendation I'll go and check it out. And Jim I'm not too far from you. About 40 minutes. Thank you gentlemen hope you have a blessed day
10:04 Master Yoda so true I love it. Because as humans in flesh we may try and fail but good God Almighty doesn’t need to try. He’s not all like us. Jesus looked like us but was clearly not like us. That divine nature showed He was from above ☝️.
There is NOTHING God cannot do! Jesus Christ, GOD THE SON INCARNATE, is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end! He is Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent! I thank God for you, my dear brothers IN Christ! Keep on working, serving the LORD making Biblical issues clear! Praise the LORD forever more!!!😊
I am so very glad this book was written! I about come out of my skin when someone starts up with the "God is trying...." I always want to say "Can we get something straight here? We are the trying ones, not God!" And I think of Chris Rosebrough (sp?) doing his "Vincent" interpretation of the fake Holy Spirit who is so utterly useless. God does not TRY to do anything! I'm so grateful for this. We all need a larger dose of Who God really is! Thank you gentlemen! Praising God!
Thank you for sharing and inlighten us about the soverignithy of God and all the false teaching among us. Amazing book to have. thinking of buying it. Grace to you and your families. We love you Justin
Can I plead for prayers for my daughter a mother of two who lost a beloved third at a year old to cot death. Her older son is in the spectrum and being bullied terribly at school . She has been diagnosed with Chrohns disease and is very ill just now. My heart is breaking for her. Please please pray our Heavenly Father intervenes .
I have been listening to John Mac from the 70's on the radio. I'm 71 now. I like this subject a lot. I didn't know about Calvinism back then. I didn't even know what it was until 2000. Now I'm hearing a lot about Lordship Salvation on the UA-cam. It is about trying and doing and testing. Have you made any adjustments to your thinking on Lordship salvation Justin? I have to admit, I have.
Have already ordered the book today... very glad for Jim and Dave's church, as one of their members snowbirds at our church in Columbia Tennessee, where she will play piano for us, glad to see her on the 10th of November.
After countless "goat farms", I'm thankful to God that He has now placed us in a Reformed Baptist church with real biblical expository. They're not afraid to preach the sovereignty of God. Providence has become a 4-letter word in most modernized "churches". The fingerprint of God is everywhere. Love this conversation. So very valid today when people want all the "profits" of being a true Christian. Y'all...we sign up for persecution in this life. Our reward is not temporal, it's eternal. Reread Ecclesiastes. Much love and God bless! Thanks again Justin! Truly enjoying your vids Brother!
@@goosieschmoo8239 God is not weak, but please get the context. God chooses to allow people real choices and bear the consequences of them. He doesn't override the ability he has given us to choose. If God is limited it is because he chooses to limit himself. Look at Jesus. He didn't ride in on a white horse and make things right, but he could have. He could have driven out the Romans with the click of his fingers. That should tell you that it would be a profound mistake to think that God is weak or limited. I believe in the omnipotence of God, but how he chooses to exercise that omnipotence should tell you something about him as well. He takes into account much more than we feeble humans do. The calvinist and determinist understanding of God is too small. But also the armenian understanding of "free will" is likewise too small. We are left to look beyond the feeble scope of these human outlooks with their less than clear picture of the way things really are. Don't put God in a box. Calvinism is a box. Aremenianism is likewise a box. The truth about God lies beyond these boxes.
"In the beginning, God tried *again* to create the heavens and the universe." God heard the third time was a charm. This is from the Liberal Translation of the Bible.
I just love the books of Jim Osman! Hope it gets translated into German one day. When he wrote on the first pages in "Spiritual warfare" that he has no experiences with demons nor with witchcraft or other things in that direction and does not care but he has the word of God and thats all he needs. And it was the best I have ever read on that topic.
The moment I hear "God told me," , I tune out. God leads us through His Holy Spirit, and I trust a man who says that the Holy Spirit led them to a particular verse or Bible story over someone who says that God is speaking to them, period. We pray to the Father, through the Son, by the Holy Spirit within us. Jesse Duplantis had better stop the conversations he appears to have regularly, where God needs Jesse's advice, or he will wind up never hearing God's voice for all eternity!
Makes me think of the song from The Color Purple… “God is Trying to Tell You Something.” Didn’t see it as a mark against God’s ability to “Tell” but our success or failure to “listen.”
The sad thing is GOD should not have to try. We must believe that GOD didn't want this crazy violent sick world to be like this. GOD has even sent true believers to try to help us understand who GOD is and why we need HIM. Thank you Mr. Peters. You are so interesting. I love your videos. I could listen to you all day. Bless you. Thank you.🙏
Hi, please pray for Melanie cherifi for salvation and her kids as well and God would remove wrong relationships in her life and around her as well, and God would provide protection through this situation .. Thank you 🙏 🤲
Almighty God loves us but he gives us our own will to turn to him period. Now if we don't turn to him then we don't actually love him. But he is not going to chase us down and make us love him
This was a great conversation. I have two concerns that I’m wondering if anyone could address: 1) there was a subtle (or not so subtle) undertone of equating God’s Sovereignty with the Doctrines of Grace- when it comes to the issues of Definite Atonement and Total Depravity as understood and believed by Calvinists, how do you square that with God’s goodness? For if God predestines some men to salvation, by necessity it means that others are predestined to perdition (if we follow the logic of Calvin). Of what use then, is man’s responsibility for his sin? 2) About Dr. Lawson: the first mention of him ( and most mentions I see online) in this video seemed to suggest that he was not a genuine believer because he was involved in sinful patterns. Is the suggestion that a professing Christian who is involved in affairs (for example) is NOT a genuine believer? If so, is that a personal belief or is that scriptural?
Through my illness this past 15 months, I believe God has shown me in His Word, I was in the wrong church. No one has loved me or been there for me. It has hurt my family. I thought they were my church family, but they proved they didn’t love me. The pastor loves to joke about the things of this world. He praised his congregation, which I’m no longer a part of like crazy a couple of weeks ago. My husband and daughter finally left for good. Now I have to get my son away from this church. Please pray for God to lead us to the right church. They are manipulating my son, who I’ve always been close to. He knows things aren’t good, but they try to make him feel important. They are divisive. It’s an SBC church. I wish I had never gone there. I say that, but it has taught me a lesson for sure.
Good interview! Appreciate the work Jim and Dave have done. Thank you for sharing it. I have a question regarding two OT texts. Interested to see how you gentlemen might respond to these. Isaiah 5:17. The prophet sings a song about his beloved (YHWH) and his beloved’s vineyard (Israel). YHWH is portrayed in song as complaining that he has done everything that could reasonably be expected for his vineyard and that he had expected to find it bearing fruit but it has not been fruitful. Though it is poetry, it nevertheless does portray YHWH as expecting certain things and being disappointed when things don’t go as planned. Jesus’ parable in Luke 13:6-9 gives much the same idea of trying some things in hopes that they will work to produce a fruitful outcome. Jeremiah 26:1-4 describes YHWH’s instructions to the prophet to take YHWH’s message directly to the people coming to the Temple in Jerusalem. He indicates a hope that “perhaps” the people when they hear they might turn. (My theological views used to be Calvinist but haven’t been for some years now; just curious how you would deal with these scriptures that at least on some level seem to push back against your thesis that God doesn’t try things. )
@frantar605 Un pastore, anzi un coach!!! Perché i 7 "profeti" che avevano profetizzato sulla vita del mio ex marito dicendo che sarebbe diventato un pastore, hanno sbagliato: in realtà lui mi ha lasciato dopo 22 anni perché è gay ed è andato a vivere col suo compagno.
The clear message of Scripture is that God offers salvation and blessings to people who reject them. How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Matthew 23.37. Yes, the Lord tried to gather them but they chose not to respond.
@@ScribeOfBoom No. The twisting is being done by the presenters here! They are the ones who use the term "try", to reject the Scriptural truth that God gives people a choice to accept or reject salvation. You will do much better if you listen to Scripture rather than Calvinism.
Ask Jessee Duplantis about it. God's apparently always picking his brain and asking his opinion on things he's thinking about doing in the universe. 🤔 *JESSE*! I'm thinking about trying to build a Ferrari racetrack in heaven do you think I should build it out of 2x6's or a metal frame... should I put a snack bar? Lololol😅
Great content, as always! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
Brother Peter’s, can you please make sure the tree in the background is in full view? I’m Quite certain that it may stumble some charismatics that stumble upon your podcast. Looks like horns on your head. I’m reformed, it doesn’t stumble me, but I can imagine that it will others 😂.
I've been saying this for years now, if God is trying to do something doesn't that mean that he can possibly fail? makes no sense to me cause God doesn't fail.
I assume the chapter on sanctification is more comprehensive but this has me concerned. I believe the qualifier was that "we're as sanctified as God wants us to be in the moment." So He would rather is not be more holy or obedient than we are right now? We've always become just as Christlike as we should be through every trial and temptation? I could use examples of my own life but you mentioned Steve Lawson. Lawson was exactly as sanctified as God desired? He wasn't "trying" to make him more holy over the last 5 years? Your answer would be "yes" to all of the above? Not sure why we would be commended to be holy if we're always as holy as God wants us to be.
I love what you guys do. One of the things that helped me get away from Charismania was the realization that semi-pelagianism is only steps away form Heresy. Keep up the good work - Sincerely from a Confessional Lutheran
Thank you, all for your faithfulness. I’ve had cancer and now fighting another health battle. God is good and He is sovereign. I know He loves me and what I’ve dealt with isn’t meaningless. It’s for my good and His glory.
Cancer is not for your good. None of the eternal three persons of the eternal triune Godhead YHWH ever derives any glory from you having cancer or any health issue. Renew your mind ala Romans 12:2.
How about the nonelect who have cancer? Is that for their good?
You are in my thoughts and prayers. God's strength is indeed made perfect in our weaknesses. Blessings from another chronically ill sister in England.
@@justifiedbyfaith6511 Pray in tongues, it is a massively potent means of healing.😍
@@chesedsozo7840 Tongues are not for everyone, nor does any portion of Scripture say healing comes from speaking in tongues.
I'm recovering from an operation to remove a polyp, what a comfort to hear these brothers and rest in God's loving sovereignty.
Does God love the nonelect? I don't think so.
@20july1944 God's common grace to all men. God so loved the world... In Greek "cosmos" that is the beautiful world he created. So he does love all men and women, because he created them. But there is special distinguishing grace that brings sinners to salvation.
Amen, @trevorwalterroutley1443, it IS such a comfort to listen to our brothers IN Christ, for there are few people who are genuinely saved! I am asking the Lord Jesus to give you a speedy recovery from your operation, ok?!😊
The Lord is glorified in what He has decreed to happen in your life, brother. He is amazing in His providence. You're blessed of the Lord.
@@CoCo8102. Thank you, very true, what a marvelous Saviour we have.
God doesn't try, He is the ALL KNOWING GOD, THE ALL SEEING GOD, THE ALL PRESENT GOD, THE ALL POWERFUL GOD. God does what He wants, He doesn't need our permission.
There is so much peace in surrendering to Gods Sovereignty. To KNOW nothing happens outside His Sovereign will, while knowing He alone is Good is peaceful to me.
Billions have died (and perhaps spend eternity in hell) under God's sovereignty, and no end in sight.
Does that give you peace?
God does not Predestine people too do horrifying evil. Your making God the Author of Sin. Calvinsim is a false doctrine
The fallacy of Calvinism is totally evident. You cannot use it as an excuse to not fulfill Jesus' mission. 1 Corinthians 9:22. There is no place for Calvinistic Que sera sera in true Christianity. Do you realise just how terrifying the responsibility we share with the Lord when it comes to the lost. If you did you would be on Kristi Bourke's channel and those of many others by all means trying to share the truth about Jesus. You can't make others believe, but you can by all means try to persuade, try to demonstrate, to seek to bring them to Christ. Let's look at the rough statistics. ChatGPT estimates that Armenian Preachers ie Wsley, Finney, Graham are responsible for about 4-5 million conversions compared with a meagre 100,000 or so to Calvinists such as Whitefield, Edwards and Spurgeon. My case rests.
@@skyeprophet3564 Agreed
@@420__Momentum-s4p So you're a pothead anti-Calvinist?
Hallelujah!!!! The daily jesus devotional has been a huge part of my transformation, God is good 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻was owning a loan of $47,000 to the bank for my son's brain surgery (David), Now I'm no longer in debt after I invested $12,000 and got my payout of m $270,500 every months,God bless Ms Evelyn Vera🇺🇸..
Hello how do you make such monthly??
I'm a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down🤦🏼of myself because of low finance but I still believe in God🙏.
Same here
waking up every 14th of each
month to 210,000 dollars it’s a blessing to I and my family… I can now retire knowing that I have a steady income❤️Big gratitude to Ms Evelyn Vera
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Ms. Evelyn Vera.
I do know Ms. Evelyn Vera, I also have even become successful....
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.
God also doesn't "need". He doesn't need you to change the world. He doesn't need your permission before he can act.
Does Jesus love the nonelect?
Correct!
And God also doesn't trust you. We trust God, but he doesn't trust us, or "see if he can trust us," as you so often hear people saying as an explanation for a trial.
be content to which you were called. we're you a slave when you were called then don't let it trouble you. but if you can obtain your freedom then do so (paraphrase).
@@paulhinton8699 Whom are you addressing?
Thank you..Very edifying. God does what he wants. when GOD wants and with whom GOD wants. and faith is precisely trusting in the sovereignty of God that no matter what happens God rules
Does Jesus love the nonelect?
@@20july1944 , "That God is not pleased with the death of the wicked" even if HE Himself has to execute them, because God is terribly Holy for us so to speak, God sovereignly gives some Grace and others Justice but no one receives injustice, those who are considered righteous It is not his own justice and wisdom but a gift from God, this humiliates man and exalts God, whoever believes that God's sovereignty is limited is a fact that is an atheist, because if there is a single particle in the universe that God does not rule so God is not God... Blessings
AMEN, @Superandolaficciondoc, GOD RULES, and I l-o-v-e HIM sooo much!!!😊
Oh my goodness! Thank you so much! The two things that just make my gears grind is when pastors say "God tries..." or "God wants..." like there is any lack in God or His character. Bravo, Gentlemen, for calling out precision in preaching!
I appreciate you men tremendously, if not for ppl like you I’d probably be worse off, but, even with my own flaws and sinful ways, I’m becoming increasingly sick of the cognitive dissonance, deceit, complete unawareness and malicious intent going on. If not for Jesus convicting me to not be a hypocrite and to remain aware of my own need of forgiveness, my ego would have plunged me into a pit of bitterness. On some days though, like today, I’m on the edge of that pit. When it’s hard to appreciate my own luxuries like hot water and good health, I look to the beauty of God’s sunsets and bumblebees, but when my spirit is broken,listening to sober minded men like you is beauty in itself.
Aw - thank you so much, Mariah! Blessings to you, sister :)
I thank God for men like you three and for the internet which allows me to be exposed to teaching like this. God Bless you all for your faithfulness to God and His Word.
I want to express my heart felt gratitude for everyone in this video and your solid biblical teaching. This has given me a couple of things to pray about and reflect on.
🙏❤
The LORD is absolutely awesome. In His providence He led me to watch this video after a conversation with my pastor where he said "god sometimes fails", alongside other blasphemies and false teachings while having an unrepentant attitude. Yes, his non-existent false god does fail, mine, the true God and Lord does not. God bless you brother and may the Lord continue to be glorified through you.
I just bought the book and am so excited. I’m coming out of the charismatic church and I’ve been asking God to teach me about his sovereignty. I think this book might be an answer to prayer. God bless you gentlemen. Thank you for the work that you do for the body of Christ.
That's some WONDERFUL news, @Hello-eg8fg! Praise the Lord Jesus Christ!!!😊
Thanks to the Lord, who has opened our understanding, we know truth.
He works all things after the counsel of his own will.
See Eph1:11
God doesn't "TRY", He "DOES"...(based on the opening statement).
Agreed
When life gets overwhelming and hard for me 1st and 2nd Peter brings me back to God.
God is great ! Shalom
God is omnipotent. He is fully in control. He cannot make any mistakes. He cannot lie. He is our sovereign God. He wants all to know Him but He doesn’t force anyone.
Such a blessing to listen to the three of you. Thank you 🙏🕊️
Yeah Ive seen Jim Osman preach and he is amazing..with his knowledge of the bible but also how honest he is..he tells the truth not trying to please people but God!
So very true...Our Lord God JEHOSHUA DOESN'T need to TRY or actually DO anything at all if HE doesn't want to. HE is sovereign in everything as upholds all things all the time to HIS pleasure!
God Doesn’t Whisper, God Doesn’t Try. What’s the next great God Doesn’t book? God Doesn’t Grade On A Curve? How about, God Doesn’t Endorse He Get’s Us? Godspeed gentlemen, you are a blessing to Christ’s church🙏✝️
I can think of no better expositor of the Scriptures alive today than Jim Osman. His sermon on baptism, for example, was the best I've ever heard on the subject. "God Doesn't Whisper" is an outstanding work; it is a must-read for every Christian. Justin and Jim's roundtable with Sam Storms and Michael Brown over the topic of false teachers was excellent (and a real eye-opener!).
@tedmerritt I give your comment a four Ditto endorsement for each of your points👍👍👍👍
Enjoying this interview. Jim, love the ideas for your books. Very important subjects. Thank you!
I hit the like button within the first 10 seconds of your opening. Thanks for all you do Justin!
Why would someone hit the like button before even listening to the conversation first?
God is not surprised, nor is His ways our way!
"God doesn't try" is a wonderful synopsis of this video. You can see the joy and exuberance displayed as these men discuss the fact of God's absolute ability to do what he wants to do. The American Evangelical God is an Arminian God who, just as the speaker says, we have created in our own image. Not to start a food fight, but this is exactly the claim of the "Calvinists"..
And I am vindicated in my claim! Near the end of the video one of the speakers actually quotes Calvin, and his gloriously comforting in doing so-
Is God love, Steb?
Exactly.
Glad to see your still with us!! After that post on facebook yesterday!! I saw that and I literally started to cry!! I couldn’t believe what I was seeing! Thank the good lord it was spam! Love you brother in Christ!! Take care Justin
Boy do I appreciate your ministry Pastor Peters.
What a hearty conversation between brothers. God bless you all, sirs.
The promises of God are true it says in Psalms 34 :9 "O fear the Lord, ye His saints: for there is no want to them that fear Him."
God doesn't have to try! He has done and will do! He is way way above human ways..we have to try because we make mistakes..God has not and will not! Amen!
love you guys
you are doing something right bc I see the attacks you get on Facebook...
keep telling the truth❤
Julie Roys Is The Alex Jones Exposing Church leaders / Ministry leaders of their discrepancies. 👍👏Julie Roys 👍👏!
We don’t need Julie Roys or Alex Jones to “expose church leaders” because we have the scriptures. Believe the scriptures not two unregenerate humans
Not only Julie Roys IS the Alex Jones … but Rod Saunders of Jew & Greek Ministry
Sadly there are too many ministries leaders that live a lavish lifestyle at the expense of naive donors. Check to find out where your money is being used for!
Ok Justin based on your endorsement and recommendation I'll go and check it out. And Jim I'm not too far from you. About 40 minutes. Thank you gentlemen hope you have a blessed day
10:04 Master Yoda so true I love it. Because as humans in flesh we may try and fail but good God Almighty doesn’t need to try. He’s not all like us. Jesus looked like us but was clearly not like us. That divine nature showed He was from above ☝️.
Wow just watched whole video just bought book from amazon woke me up also love John Macarthur
REALLY appreciate you guys bringing up John Eldredge. His teachings needs to be examined and refuted on several issues…
Praise God for someone who thinks the same as me Yippy
Are you a Calvinist like Peters?
There is NOTHING God cannot do! Jesus Christ, GOD THE SON INCARNATE, is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end! He is Omniscient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent! I thank God for you, my dear brothers IN Christ! Keep on working, serving the LORD making Biblical issues clear! Praise the LORD forever more!!!😊
The only reason I somewhat agree with “God is trying to teach me _____” is because his teaching is clear but this thick skull is something else!!!
I am so very glad this book was written! I about come out of my skin when someone starts up with the "God is trying...." I always want to say "Can we get something straight here? We are the trying ones, not God!" And I think of Chris Rosebrough (sp?) doing his "Vincent" interpretation of the fake Holy Spirit who is so utterly useless. God does not TRY to do anything! I'm so grateful for this. We all need a larger dose of Who God really is! Thank you gentlemen! Praising God!
Wow, wow, wow!!
Eye opening message brothers!
Thank you SO much!!!
Just ordered the book!
Thank you for sharing
and inlighten us about the soverignithy of God
and all the false teaching among us.
Amazing book to have.
thinking of buying it.
Grace to you and your families.
We love you Justin
Thank you, brothers, for these enlightening words!
Can I plead for prayers for my daughter a mother of two who lost a beloved third at a year old to cot death. Her older son is in the spectrum and being bullied terribly at school . She has been diagnosed with Chrohns disease and is very ill just now. My heart is breaking for her. Please please pray our Heavenly Father intervenes .
Prayers from Ireland 🇨🇮 May the God of all comfort surround you all in your dark hours prayers for your children and grandchildren 🙏🙏
Praying for healing for her and her child. May God keep you in peace, comfort and protect your family.. His hand is not shortened that He cannot save.
love this... what a blessing ! Thankful & blessed.. ❤
I Just bought it, I'm looking forward to readimg it. Thank you.
With Rtg Radio partner love you guys we are live you guys best
Justin bless you
I have been listening to John Mac from the 70's on the radio. I'm 71 now. I like this subject a lot. I didn't know about Calvinism back then. I didn't even know what it was until 2000. Now I'm hearing a lot about Lordship Salvation on the UA-cam. It is about trying and doing and testing. Have you made any adjustments to your thinking on Lordship salvation Justin? I have to admit, I have.
Have already ordered the book today... very glad for Jim and Dave's church, as one of their members snowbirds at our church in Columbia Tennessee, where she will play piano for us, glad to see her on the 10th of November.
After countless "goat farms", I'm thankful to God that He has now placed us in a Reformed Baptist church with real biblical expository. They're not afraid to preach the sovereignty of God. Providence has become a 4-letter word in most modernized "churches". The fingerprint of God is everywhere. Love this conversation. So very valid today when people want all the "profits" of being a true Christian. Y'all...we sign up for persecution in this life. Our reward is not temporal, it's eternal. Reread Ecclesiastes. Much love and God bless! Thanks again Justin! Truly enjoying your vids Brother!
"God is trying to ..." "God wants to ..." I hate when preachers say this.
why is that? oh, that's right, you guys don't believe human decision making is real. I can see the cognitive dissonance right there.
@@skyeprophet3564 I'm So sick of people making God out to be a weak, limited, capable of failing, limited by man, not entirely sovereign, little God.
@@goosieschmoo8239 God is not weak, but please get the context. God chooses to allow people real choices and bear the consequences of them. He doesn't override the ability he has given us to choose. If God is limited it is because he chooses to limit himself. Look at Jesus. He didn't ride in on a white horse and make things right, but he could have. He could have driven out the Romans with the click of his fingers. That should tell you that it would be a profound mistake to think that God is weak or limited. I believe in the omnipotence of God, but how he chooses to exercise that omnipotence should tell you something about him as well. He takes into account much more than we feeble humans do. The calvinist and determinist understanding of God is too small. But also the armenian understanding of "free will" is likewise too small. We are left to look beyond the feeble scope of these human outlooks with their less than clear picture of the way things really are. Don't put God in a box. Calvinism is a box. Aremenianism is likewise a box. The truth about God lies beyond these boxes.
He is not a preacher he is a scoffer
"In the beginning, God tried *again* to create the heavens and the universe." God heard the third time was a charm. This is from the Liberal Translation of the Bible.
I just love the books of Jim Osman! Hope it gets translated into German one day. When he wrote on the first pages in "Spiritual warfare" that he has no experiences with demons nor with witchcraft or other things in that direction and does not care but he has the word of God and thats all he needs. And it was the best I have ever read on that topic.
Great conversation! Btw, loving the figures on brother Dave's shelf!
The moment I hear "God told me," , I tune out. God leads us through His Holy Spirit, and I trust a man who says that the Holy Spirit led them to a particular verse or Bible story over someone who says that God is speaking to them, period. We pray to the Father, through the Son, by the Holy Spirit within us. Jesse Duplantis had better stop the conversations he appears to have regularly, where God needs Jesse's advice, or he will wind up never hearing God's voice for all eternity!
Makes me think of the song from The Color Purple… “God is Trying to Tell You Something.” Didn’t see it as a mark against God’s ability to “Tell” but our success or failure to “listen.”
Love your videos ✝️🙏💐keep on doing the good work 💯
Thanks so much Justin. I will find the book and order. I loved the interview.
The sad thing is
GOD should not have to try. We must believe that GOD didn't want this crazy violent sick world to be like this.
GOD has even sent true believers to try to help us understand who GOD is and why we need HIM. Thank you Mr. Peters. You are so interesting. I love your videos. I could listen to you all day. Bless you. Thank you.🙏
😄 Thanks for addressing this issue with the language being used by way too many church leaders.
Hi, please pray for Melanie cherifi for salvation and her kids as well and God would remove wrong relationships in her life and around her as well, and God would provide protection through this situation .. Thank you 🙏 🤲
I just now saw your comment and I am praying for Melanie right NOW!💕
Thank you guys for sharing this!!
Almighty God loves us but he gives us our own will to turn to him period. Now if we don't turn to him then we don't actually love him. But he is not going to chase us down and make us love him
When did they even say that God makes us love him?
Outstanding! I just ordered a copy from Amazon!
So sick of people making God out to be a weak, limited, capable of failing, limited by man, not entirely sovereign, little God.
Who does that?
Christ is King everyone! if this wasn't text I'd say it while waving!
Just ordered the book. Thank you.
Keep rocking Jesus in control Also God doesn't whisper nice
Thank you 🙏🏻. I can’t wait to read this.
He DOES, there is no "try".
Right. To try is human strength.
Never put the words “God” and “try” in the same sentence.
Thank You!
Greetings from Germany
God doesn't fail anything
I need this book. I am in south Africa
We live in a time where everyone writes books ... A plethora of books. Unlike the 19th century, few if those books will pass the test of time😊
This was a great conversation.
I have two concerns that I’m wondering if anyone could address:
1) there was a subtle (or not so subtle) undertone of equating God’s Sovereignty with the Doctrines of Grace- when it comes to the issues of Definite Atonement and Total Depravity as understood and believed by Calvinists, how do you square that with God’s goodness? For if God predestines some men to salvation, by necessity it means that others are predestined to perdition (if we follow the logic of Calvin). Of what use then, is man’s responsibility for his sin?
2) About Dr. Lawson: the first mention of him ( and most mentions I see online) in this video seemed to suggest that he was not a genuine believer because he was involved in sinful patterns. Is the suggestion that a professing Christian who is involved in affairs (for example) is NOT a genuine believer? If so, is that a personal belief or is that scriptural?
If god can do anything he wants too he can make you get saved and controls you
You don't think God is in control?
A phrase that would make a good podcast title was said near the end… “ Talkin’ Doctrine.”
Through my illness this past 15 months, I believe God has shown me in His Word, I was in the wrong church. No one has loved me or been there for me. It has hurt my family. I thought they were my church family, but they proved they didn’t love me. The pastor loves to joke about the things of this world. He praised his congregation, which I’m no longer a part of like crazy a couple of weeks ago. My husband and daughter finally left for good. Now I have to get my son away from this church. Please pray for God to lead us to the right church. They are manipulating my son, who I’ve always been close to. He knows things aren’t good, but they try to make him feel important. They are divisive. It’s an SBC church. I wish I had never gone there. I say that, but it has taught me a lesson for sure.
Book plug. Good message. Prophecy Watchers is a CONTINUOUS book plug. Love Justin Peters. REAL tired of advertising. My old man opinion.
Good video, must read this book i apparently wrote lol
Got the book!😅
Good interview!
Appreciate the work Jim and Dave have done. Thank you for sharing it.
I have a question regarding two OT texts. Interested to see how you gentlemen might respond to these.
Isaiah 5:17. The prophet sings a song about his beloved (YHWH) and his beloved’s vineyard (Israel). YHWH is portrayed in song as complaining that he has done everything that could reasonably be expected for his vineyard and that he had expected to find it bearing fruit but it has not been fruitful. Though it is poetry, it nevertheless does portray YHWH as expecting certain things and being disappointed when things don’t go as planned.
Jesus’ parable in Luke 13:6-9 gives much the same idea of trying some things in hopes that they will work to produce a fruitful outcome.
Jeremiah 26:1-4 describes YHWH’s instructions to the prophet to take YHWH’s message directly to the people coming to the Temple in Jerusalem. He indicates a hope that “perhaps” the people when they hear they might turn.
(My theological views used to be Calvinist but haven’t been for some years now; just curious how you would deal with these scriptures that at least on some level seem to push back against your thesis that God doesn’t try things. )
I enjoy your videos so much. Thanks Justin.
Indeed!
Una volta mi hanno risposto che il libero arbitrio dell' uomo può frustrare i piani di Dio.
Servono un piccolo dio!!!
Ma chi te lo detto?
@frantar605 Un pastore, anzi un coach!!! Perché i 7 "profeti" che avevano profetizzato sulla vita del mio ex marito dicendo che sarebbe diventato un pastore, hanno sbagliato: in realtà lui mi ha lasciato dopo 22 anni perché è gay ed è andato a vivere col suo compagno.
Profeti di Balaal!!!
@@SLMm2013evidentemente sono dei falsi profeti fidati solo di quello che sta scritto nella Bibbia
@@SLMm2013cercati una chiesa evangelica con sana dottrina
AMEN RTG RADIO
The clear message of Scripture is that God offers salvation and blessings to people who reject them. How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Matthew 23.37. Yes, the Lord tried to gather them but they chose not to respond.
It doesn’t say He “tried” it says He wanted.. there is a difference. Avoid twisting scripture and you will do much better
@@ScribeOfBoom No. The twisting is being done by the presenters here! They are the ones who use the term "try", to reject the Scriptural truth that God gives people a choice to accept or reject salvation. You will do much better if you listen to Scripture rather than Calvinism.
Ask Jessee Duplantis about it. God's apparently always picking his brain and asking his opinion on things he's thinking about doing in the universe. 🤔 *JESSE*! I'm thinking about trying to build a Ferrari racetrack in heaven do you think I should build it out of 2x6's or a metal frame... should I put a snack bar? Lololol😅
Great content, as always! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
Hallelu-Yah!🤩For once we do not have a bashing of continuationists and word of faithers!😁
Brother Peter’s, can you please make sure the tree in the background is in full view? I’m
Quite certain that it may stumble some charismatics that stumble upon your podcast. Looks like horns on your head. I’m reformed, it doesn’t stumble me, but I can imagine that it will others 😂.
Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Were the checked shirts planned?
Calvinists choose checkers.
GOD IS
WILL DOES. . . . or . . . ( IT DOES NOT) With God, as With Us.
I've been saying this for years now, if God is trying to do something doesn't that mean that he can possibly fail? makes no sense to me cause God doesn't fail.
I assume the chapter on sanctification is more comprehensive but this has me concerned. I believe the qualifier was that "we're as sanctified as God wants us to be in the moment." So He would rather is not be more holy or obedient than we are right now? We've always become just as Christlike as we should be through every trial and temptation? I could use examples of my own life but you mentioned Steve Lawson. Lawson was exactly as sanctified as God desired? He wasn't "trying" to make him more holy over the last 5 years? Your answer would be "yes" to all of the above? Not sure why we would be commended to be holy if we're always as holy as God wants us to be.