Its all Necromunda from here until we are soon to be fully immersed into the return of TITUS. If you enjoyed as always please do LIKE the video, what do you think of the new look Necromunda Secundus Spyrers?
Okay, now I'm pretty sure you and oculus are either buddies, or you're both damn good at timing. As i said on his video, I wouldn't have fallen in ABSOLUTE love with 40k if it wasn't for you. As well as oculus, vox, baldy and ABP. A perfect quintet. All hail the Founding Lorefathers! Ave Imperator!
My buddies do this all the time. Our prey get to pull their families out of poverty by their sacrifice (we’re the kind type of hunters - in 🇷🇺 there is no compensation).
Knowing Warhammer, it would not surprise me. Especially given the Emperor's stance on xenos and technology and the general running of an empire, considering he lived through the DAOT.
The truth is that is was EXACTLY as it is now the Imperium, but exchange the fear and stagnation if Technology and the rise in supertition for the *love and upgrading* of technology
I remember seeing an article about this in White Dwarf many years ago - and I was instantly captivated by the concept of these rich, spoiled kids down in the depths of hell with nothing but their rich-kid kit to depend on.
Luetin, I've been focusing more on your written narrative style intros and I have to say, you are an incredible wordsmith! Your ability to truly paint an atmospheric picture is amazing. Keep it up bro!
I think at the moment lore points to Spyrer rigs being of Tau origin, from the Tau Lexicon: -Or'es ("powerful") is a reference to the powerful brute force Orrus rig -J'Karra ("mirror") is a reference to the Jakarra rig that has a "mirror shield" as part of its loadout -Mal'Kor ("spider"), is a reference the Malcadon insectoid webspinning rig -Yeld'di ("winged one), is a reference to the Yeld flying rig
Holy shit, Imperialized Tau tech is one hell of a grim idea, because if these are a mix of retrofitted Tau tech AND DAoT designs... let's hope no one gets the idea to mass produce these
Love the necromunda stuff and i never once played the game. but getting to see behind the battlelines of titans and armies of superhuman warriors and cannon foddar imperial guard you get to see the life of imperial plebs.
I've never played any Warhammer game or read any of the books myself. But I've fallen in love with the lore and the universe of 40K through UA-cam channels like Luetin's
@@CryptidRenfri back in the day (2nd edition) there was no Internet content. You had to get all your info from the games the rulesbooks the little stories inside them and the magazine white dwarf. You consumed every scrap of info you could get. Heck I didn't even know how to pronounce primarch and rouboute guilliman.
@@1985slipstreamI like how good GW got at little microfiction blurbs. Like a one-page short story, a chant, a quote. All made by unreliable narrators. Playing WFRP forced you to think harder about little everyday details, being an RPG and all.
Leutin, this was a great video, a really nice change of pace on a piece of lore/gear I really had no idea existed. I love hearing about some of the more obscure stuff. Cheers.
Ive always wanted an open world rpg survival/horror esque type game based on a hive city. You're an Inquisitor of the Ordo Malleus and your first task is to root out a rumored chaos cult in a hive city. As you descend the levels of the hive city it gets progressively darker and more like a descent into actual hell. As you eliminate cult members you piece together that the sector lord is the culprit. Bringing you all the way back to the top of the hive city to see the decadence and corruption the lord lives in. Right before you execute the heretical chaos worshipper he mentions stopping the corruption is to late. You return to your order, only to discover in a series of flashbacks once you overhear something that triggers all the pieces to lock into place. The Inquistor Lord you were talking to serves an opposing chaos god. You werent clearing a chaos cult, you were removing one of the other chaos gods pawns from the board for his chaos god. You leave, ordering extermantus upon the entire world. Or something like that. So your reminded, its the grim dark, you still lose even when you lose. But then i thought, a publisher would absolutely ruin it.
we played a ttrpg warhammer game we spent a few weeks in necromunda and found one of these suits ( a Yeld ) as a Rouge trader we spent a pretty penny getting it fit and adjusted for another player who was an inquisitor he later used it to kill a word bearers space marine dreadnought ( he was able to get a melta bomb on it's back ) sadly it got damaged badly by tau
Just finished painting my own Spyrer gang :D Leant into the 'nobles in armour' vibe and gave them all quartered, vibrant colours like medieval heraldry :3
Will you ever do a cover of the Carcharodons? Been listening to your content for almost 2 years now. You've been my great introduction to 40k and I wouldn't have had it any other way. Thanks Luetin!
Very much enjoyed this one. I like how you had examples of models to correspond with your content. So much material to cover and you do an awesome job! 🍻
I love the idea that imperium of man uses it's most advaced and powerful suits of armor for the amusement and hubris of nobles. Not for killing xenos high value targets or killing leaders of uprisings.
@@craigstobbs9215 They are not weird compared to other crap Imperial nobility has. Imperial nobles can have swords that can only be forged a few decades every century on a specific worlds gravitational pressure, bionics that are works of art and digital weapons with the power of a hell pistol in a ring.
I love the Spyrer lore, so I hope that at least in some hives it is seen more like a knight going on a chivalric quest than a simple blood sport. Life has a value and should be respected, even among those who would dare call themselves nobles in this hellhole.
@@stevenfarnaby1255 I never said "chivalry is over value". I said that I hope the Spyrer is seen as more than a blood sport. If you want cruelty for its own sake, look at the Dhrukari. Imperial government can be cruel, but not as a means in and of itself. The point of the grim-darkness is to make the light of humanity shine all the brighter.
@@daniell1483 It's not a blood sport. It's done to gain status among one's peers. I mean, how else would you get the notice of Lord Helmwar's 27th illegitimate daughter's tertiary toilet attendant's 12th niece thrice removed without completing a vow to bring back the heads of 100 gangers, all with different nasal piercings?
@sunnydayempire6964 I did all that, but in the process, I lost 5 of my favourite limbs, and contracted giga-herpes. Magnesia Thrupplesnope was most displeased.
luetin is the perfect storryteller. i'm a proud (altough pretty recent) member of the luetin sleep club! really you do an awesome job. im not even that much into 40k, but scifi in general yes. i must say that i always found 40k to be the greatest rip-off in history but you make it all really compelling and i'm sure you know a lot about scifi in general! you dont talk about it that much but somehow i am sure that you are pretty knowledgeable about all the scifi stuff out there.
Isn't the origins of the suits heavily hinted to be Tau in origin? From old Tau codices, Tau words that are eerily similar to Rig Names appear: J'Karra : Mirror Mal'caor : Spider Or'res : Powerful Y'eldi : Air caste name for a particularly gifted pilot (literally "winged one").
Watched a vid ages ago on spyrers where he made the argument that the rig names are similar to tau words for related things. He speculated that the rigs come from tau defectors or ones that deal with rogue traders
TBH I liked the older versions of the Spyrers compared to the new ones with models... the old designs seemed more varied and natural to the setting, more easy to functionally distinguish and add to the character of the users while the new ones seem all the same just with different loadouts, and they would fit more as a unit in an actual major military faction that has advanced standardized equipment compared to expensive suits used by noble families which would logically be at least a bit customized and varied depending on the user and the manufacturers. 10:00 ALso this is unrelated but I jsut realized that the lasguns used by the Van Saar troppers here have some design similarities to the Hylas weapons of the Leagues of Votann, specifically in how they are bulkier than normal Imperial lasguns and how the front tapers towards the barrel rather than being just poking out of the front of the gun block, like in common IG lasguns. Not sure if that's intentional or if the designers of the Van Saar and Votann stuff just independently came up with the same idea of what a more advanced lasgun should look like.
Van Saar have access to a mostly working STC. It possibly has designs that the dwarfs base some of their weapons on. Also, Necromunda has squats there, and those squats may be visiting Votann kin. These squats would be able to help keep the STC repaired and perhaps build hunting rigs. Rigs have been linked to Tau, but it’s the Votann who actually have the Tau their technology kickstart. Personally, I think some bespoke rigs will be votann made. Their tech would look like dark age tech, it has the same root.
I just caught a glimpse of my notifications '' The Horror of...' , and immediately i thought , oh Luetin posted a new video . Not the strangest association , considering )
Necromunda and Gorkamorka use a bunch of 2nd ed rules. I think this is just the right scale to use them. Inquisitor was the other skirmish game, and Mordheim.
I remember reading about spyrers in a white dwarf magasine 20 years ago or something. My perseption was that some of them at least was the bored childen of nobles who where thrill seakers, sorta like the yautja from predator, but one thing always struck me as odd, just how powerfull a relative amateur could become by just wearing a fancy suit. They are described with as 4 kind of specialists, with one sounding like a mini mareus calgar with powerarmor and twin powerfists, the other with active camoflauge, There where 2 melee specialist where one was described a bit like a wardancer, the other more like a evesor assain. Through their gear they are able to attain extreme combat power, to hunt in the underhive with relative low risk. If you can hunt something like a ganger from house goliath for the fun of it just by donning a fancy suit, and the suit have a description that sounds like they could give a space marine a run for their money, then that suit must be insanely overpowered, and not something you would waste on a complete amateur like some bored noble brat. I get that the suits are rare and that nobles have money to push around, but does that mean that at every spire there are nobles with the resources to have stuff lying around that would make a inquisitor combat team jealous, or gear that make an untrained human be able to go up against a space marine in specific situations. It always stuck in my mind that that the powerscale was off. So why are elite units like inquisitorial storm troops, lucifer blacks, or elysian storm troopers not given better gear? Even if they can't produce gear as powerfull, then if a local planetary noble with the resources they have, it seems silly that especially the rogue trader retinues, inquisitorial troops or retinues can't produce stuff that is somewhat similar, considering that they have access to resources on a completely different scale, or if they want something can just confiscate it. I never read in the lore about spyrers fighting space marines, but as I recall just 1 or 2 spyrers where pretty much the apex of what you could run into in Necromunda, with the possible exception of a full combat team of arbites. I assume it's just a case of different authors, and different scenarios and in my head lore, I just put it down to dark age tech space magic goes boom, and didn't worry to much about it.
I thought they were typical of Imperial nobility, almost ritual. They are not power armour. They incorporate features that could be of Imperial make for the truly, obscenely wealthy. The points cost limits the size of a spyrer gang.
Leutin only mentioned it briefly, about where the suits come from… They are probably XenoTech, and that’s why elite Imperial troops don’t have access to them. They are bespoke, prohibitively expensive, and probably illegal. While ArcheoTech is traditionally considered their likely origin, newer lore hints that this incredible technology is of Tau origin. It is the Tau that love battlesuits, who experiment actively with new technology, and who do have links with humanity via their assimilated human colonies. But… Who actually kickstarted Tau technology, and gave them their plasma and shallow warp skimming systems? THE LEAGUES OF VOTANN. Yes, the space dwarfs. Genetically modified humans from the dark age of technology, sent off on generation ships with lots of STC assistance and resources. And who are the best engineers, armourers and weapons smiths? Obviously the dwarfs. The Votann still have all the old STC technology, and they still develop new ideas and refinements. But anything they make might seem like human technology from 15,000 years ago. The dwarfs have long had careful trade links with the Imperium and of course the Tau, and there have been Squats on places like Necromunda… squats who may have been visiting Votann on secretive missions. So that’s my take, and I think if Necromunda gets new life breathed into it, we may find that the Spyrers are actually outfitted by Votann artificers, by way of the Tau (as the Tau are known to the Imperium but the dwarfs are still trying to stay hidden so they are forcibly reabsorbed into the Imperium.)
@@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm The old game didn't make a big deal out of it. They are not made on Necromunda, they are imported. They could be produced in the Imperium if someone with obscene amounts of wealth ordered one. Something like digital weapons, chameleoline and personal flight etc is easily available for the toffs.
Great video, sir! I always love learning something new from the 40k universe! Are those suits comprable then to Space Marine power armor? I mean, they lijely dont have a black carapace or all the other enhancements. They sound like 40K batman without the moral code or inhibitions. So cool, great story, Leutin!
Amazing video as always 👍 Really weird guess that the Jokaero would be the ones to have made spyrers though lol. Imo this is entirely not their style, so I would venture a less well known hand is at play here (which is very fun)
I used to play Spyrers in Necromunda (the version from the mid 90s). I favored all except the Yeld, but that was mostly due to how the models looked at the time. Unfortunately, I didn't get to play many games with them since there wasn't much interest in Necromunda in my area. Still, of the "gangs" that could be played, the Spyrers will always be in my top 3.
@@SusCalvin of the few games I did get to play with them, they worked quite well. The biggest advantage was not needing another Spyrer nearby for certain LD tests. Plus, not needing to worry about Ammo Tests, or other campaign related things (expenses, possibly starving, etc) was helpful. The downside to them though, was only having 5 models (at most). So you could get overwhelmed by superior numbers if not careful. As for the other two gangs I would put in my top 3, that would be the Van Saar and the Delaque.
Thought: could a cultist of Vashtorr, theoretically, make several pacts to gradually "unlock" and "put on" the suit? It would be 1 in a 1,000,000,000 kind of chance, but hey, big time player right there.
Rich ppl with rich weapons, hunting the poor, enjoying the misery, disconnected from the long term consequences. And justice is only ever a dream and the end of your life is just a matter of roulette every day you drag yourself from your hab to your miserable worker assignment. The dark dystopia of a hopeless existence, which is an ever present reality of our short and often violently ended lives. On a somewhat related note; gotta give respect to 40k, grim dark does a pretty good job of getting close to the IRL existence I described above.
If you have time to espouse cynical nonsense on UA-cam and watch hour long UA-cam videos, you’re not living in a dystopia. Also, in what world is hunting the poor going on
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Its all Necromunda from here until we are soon to be fully immersed into the return of TITUS. If you enjoyed as always please do LIKE the video, what do you think of the new look Necromunda Secundus Spyrers?
I'm loving the new necromunda series! It's way different than the normal space marine circle jerk and a lot more interesting
@@arielhamm-flores6893it’s on my to do
Okay, now I'm pretty sure you and oculus are either buddies, or you're both damn good at timing.
As i said on his video, I wouldn't have fallen in ABSOLUTE love with 40k if it wasn't for you. As well as oculus, vox, baldy and ABP. A perfect quintet.
All hail the Founding Lorefathers! Ave Imperator!
I love your hour plus long form videos, but I so appreciate these shorter ones I can actually finish in one listen.
Necromunda is always so bonkers ❤
You know it's 40k when the rich hunting the poor for sport is called morally gray.
My buddies do this all the time. Our prey get to pull their families out of poverty by their sacrifice (we’re the kind type of hunters - in 🇷🇺 there is no compensation).
Space Hulk is about reclaiming real estate and clearing it from squatters.
@@The_ZeroLinefor one moment you had me there, Predator. nice one
True
@@The_ZeroLineooh, be careful not to cut yourself on all that edge there.
Maybe go touch grass though and risk cutting yourself on that.
My upstairs neighbours are having a loud party, and I’m working graveyard shift. May these blessed litanies give me a full nights rest in 4 hours🫡
Sleep well, king
Use the ole broomstick on the ceiling
Best of luck!
Good night Dampe
I feel your pain..
Nice to see a short from Luetin!
Such short form content is a treat.
😂😂😂
@@philiphockenbury6563I highly disagree
Only from Loremaster Leutin would a video over 30 minutes be considered "short'
Someone alert the inquisitor of this heretic spewing Hersey!!
Stuff like this makes me wonder if the Dark Age of Tech was just another despotic Nightmare era that the Mechanicus has painted rosy.
Knowing Warhammer, it would not surprise me. Especially given the Emperor's stance on xenos and technology and the general running of an empire, considering he lived through the DAOT.
Given how comically insane DAOT tech is described they are probably just bastardized HEV suits.
The truth is that is was EXACTLY as it is now the Imperium, but exchange the fear and stagnation if Technology and the rise in supertition for the *love and upgrading* of technology
Spyrers be like, “Those Dark Eldar are SO COOL! I want to be just like them!”
Their suits are cool, though.
New Luetin video notification right as I'm about to lie down and rest for the evening. Truly a blessing from The Emperor and Omnisiah.
May your rejuvenate treatment allow you to arise ready to take on the horrors of the grim dark… and your upstairs neighbors.
New Luetin and new Oculus Imperia videos dropped on the same day. I shall sleep well this weekend!
New channel to subscribe to!? Thanks!
This niche topic have fascinated me since your vid on the Hive over all. So glad you explore that again.
ERE WE GO! ERE WE GO! ERE WE GO! ERE WE GO!
I remember seeing an article about this in White Dwarf many years ago - and I was instantly captivated by the concept of these rich, spoiled kids down in the depths of hell with nothing but their rich-kid kit to depend on.
They were a funky gang! Each model costs a huge chunk of creds. Replacing one was probably hard.
They could make a hell of a 40k video game in this setting.
Hive wars: necromunda?
@@jrr7031 yep. Haven't played in some time. Now i want to see if they added Spyrers
Necromunda hired gun
@@Slayer-zd8ph if only it had Spyrers :3
That intro music tricked me into thinking I had Rogue Trader open for a second xD
I love the inclusion of actual miniatures in your videos. Please consider increasing those where possible.
Im loving all the Necromunda content. It's opening up a whole side of 40k I never knew about. Excellent as always, Luetin!
everytime i see a new luitin09 upload it makes me smile
Yet again, Leutin Sleep Squad Represent! Always nice to come home to a video from one of my top 3 creators.
Love the Rogue Trader OST
Luetin, I've been focusing more on your written narrative style intros and I have to say, you are an incredible wordsmith! Your ability to truly paint an atmospheric picture is amazing. Keep it up bro!
I think at the moment lore points to Spyrer rigs being of Tau origin, from the Tau Lexicon:
-Or'es ("powerful") is a reference to the powerful brute force Orrus rig
-J'Karra ("mirror") is a reference to the Jakarra rig that has a "mirror shield" as part of its loadout
-Mal'Kor ("spider"), is a reference the Malcadon insectoid webspinning rig
-Yeld'di ("winged one), is a reference to the Yeld flying rig
Holy shit, Imperialized Tau tech is one hell of a grim idea, because if these are a mix of retrofitted Tau tech AND DAoT designs... let's hope no one gets the idea to mass produce these
24:23 thx once again for your work man.
Best way to start the weekend! Yay awesome :D thanks man!
Love the necromunda stuff and i never once played the game. but getting to see behind the battlelines of titans and armies of superhuman warriors and cannon foddar imperial guard you get to see the life of imperial plebs.
I've never played any Warhammer game or read any of the books myself. But I've fallen in love with the lore and the universe of 40K through UA-cam channels like Luetin's
@@CryptidRenfri back in the day (2nd edition) there was no Internet content. You had to get all your info from the games the rulesbooks the little stories inside them and the magazine white dwarf. You consumed every scrap of info you could get. Heck I didn't even know how to pronounce primarch and rouboute guilliman.
@@1985slipstreamfor the longest time I thought it was pronounced "Robo Guy-man", I thought it was a joke of silent letters.
Inquisitor and Necromunda were the games closest to the home front.
Inquisitor was close to an RPG.
@@1985slipstreamI like how good GW got at little microfiction blurbs. Like a one-page short story, a chant, a quote. All made by unreliable narrators.
Playing WFRP forced you to think harder about little everyday details, being an RPG and all.
Hive Secundus is by far my new favourite setting in 40k. I want to run a ttrpg set here so bad. Great video!
Reminds me of that classical cyberpunk novel about the combat artist descending into the gang ridden slums - The Artificial Kid, by Bruce Sterling.
Thanks for the recommendation
I already wanted to get Hive Secundus for the gene stealer models. Now i want it even more. Thanks Luetin 🙏😄
Can't wait for the next one. I'm absolutely loving the Necromunda series!
29:20 "...and hit a critical point on a Spyrer rig..."
Hmm. I wonder if that could have something to do with the TOTAL LACK OF PROPER HELMETS.
I always love to stare at the artwork you have for these videos but this one in particular has some incredible images.
Leutin, this was a great video, a really nice change of pace on a piece of lore/gear I really had no idea existed. I love hearing about some of the more obscure stuff. Cheers.
Awesome, i was just thinking it was nap time before i go out to finish carving my Vlka Fenryka masterpiece... perfect timing. TY kevin.
Love these Necromunda vids. The hive cities and under hive life has always been one of my favourite parts of 40k lore ♥️
Luetin gym club checking in
Will have to listen while training on Sunday though
New Luetin vid with a Guyver reference? Nice.
I caught that, too!
Lol I saw the guyver pictures too
Ive always wanted an open world rpg survival/horror esque type game based on a hive city. You're an Inquisitor of the Ordo Malleus and your first task is to root out a rumored chaos cult in a hive city. As you descend the levels of the hive city it gets progressively darker and more like a descent into actual hell.
As you eliminate cult members you piece together that the sector lord is the culprit. Bringing you all the way back to the top of the hive city to see the decadence and corruption the lord lives in. Right before you execute the heretical chaos worshipper he mentions stopping the corruption is to late. You return to your order, only to discover in a series of flashbacks once you overhear something that triggers all the pieces to lock into place. The Inquistor Lord you were talking to serves an opposing chaos god. You werent clearing a chaos cult, you were removing one of the other chaos gods pawns from the board for his chaos god. You leave, ordering extermantus upon the entire world.
Or something like that. So your reminded, its the grim dark, you still lose even when you lose. But then i thought, a publisher would absolutely ruin it.
Thanks for all the awesome content and great videos!!!
we played a ttrpg warhammer game we spent a few weeks in necromunda and found one of these suits ( a Yeld ) as a Rouge trader we spent a pretty penny getting it fit and adjusted for another player who was an inquisitor he later used it to kill a word bearers space marine dreadnought ( he was able to get a melta bomb on it's back ) sadly it got damaged badly by tau
Don't think I've ever made it to a Leutin video this early, only a minute has gone by since upload.
Just finished painting my own Spyrer gang :D Leant into the 'nobles in armour' vibe and gave them all quartered, vibrant colours like medieval heraldry :3
I was listening to this last night and fell asleep, glad to be a member of the Luetin sleep club.
Will you ever do a cover of the Carcharodons? Been listening to your content for almost 2 years now. You've been my great introduction to 40k and I wouldn't have had it any other way. Thanks Luetin!
Very much enjoyed this one. I like how you had examples of models to correspond with your content. So much material to cover and you do an awesome job! 🍻
Never touched 40k in my life but the lore has had me captivated for years 😅 cool stuff
I had never heard of spyrers before. Thanks for enlightening me!
I love the idea that imperium of man uses it's most advaced and powerful suits of armor for the amusement and hubris of nobles. Not for killing xenos high value targets or killing leaders of uprisings.
They are 4+ carapace suits with some built-in arms and tools.
Tbf im pretty sure the wider Imperium has minimal knowledge of the existence of the suits....may cause some akward questions lol
@@craigstobbs9215 They are not weird compared to other crap Imperial nobility has. Imperial nobles can have swords that can only be forged a few decades every century on a specific worlds gravitational pressure, bionics that are works of art and digital weapons with the power of a hell pistol in a ring.
@@craigstobbs9215 This is a setting where knight worlds, where the local nobility pilot personal mechs to war, is a thing.
I remember when the Spyrer hunter model were released for the 1st edition of Necomunda.
I love the Spyrer lore, so I hope that at least in some hives it is seen more like a knight going on a chivalric quest than a simple blood sport. Life has a value and should be respected, even among those who would dare call themselves nobles in this hellhole.
Oh bless your naive heart my summer child. You don't survive amongst the imperial nobility of a Hive world if you think chivalry is over value.
@@stevenfarnaby1255 I never said "chivalry is over value". I said that I hope the Spyrer is seen as more than a blood sport. If you want cruelty for its own sake, look at the Dhrukari. Imperial government can be cruel, but not as a means in and of itself.
The point of the grim-darkness is to make the light of humanity shine all the brighter.
@@daniell1483 It's not a blood sport. It's done to gain status among one's peers. I mean, how else would you get the notice of Lord Helmwar's 27th illegitimate daughter's tertiary toilet attendant's 12th niece thrice removed without completing a vow to bring back the heads of 100 gangers, all with different nasal piercings?
@sunnydayempire6964
I did all that, but in the process, I lost 5 of my favourite limbs, and contracted giga-herpes.
Magnesia Thrupplesnope was most displeased.
@@liberatumplox625 Well yes, giga-herpes was SO last season.
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for someone to do the Spyre Hunters! I'm glad the best lore guy got around to it first!
Loving the Necromunda content. Nice segue into covering Secundus - looking forward to it now!
Oooooooh nice opening with the Rogue Trader OST !!
luetin is the perfect storryteller. i'm a proud (altough pretty recent) member of the luetin sleep club! really you do an awesome job. im not even that much into 40k, but scifi in general yes. i must say that i always found 40k to be the greatest rip-off in history but you make it all really compelling and i'm sure you know a lot about scifi in general! you dont talk about it that much but somehow i am sure that you are pretty knowledgeable about all the scifi stuff out there.
Loved it, the urban megacity stories are always fun to delve into
Isn't the origins of the suits heavily hinted to be Tau in origin?
From old Tau codices, Tau words that are eerily similar to Rig Names appear:
J'Karra : Mirror
Mal'caor : Spider
Or'res : Powerful
Y'eldi : Air caste name for a particularly gifted pilot (literally "winged one").
Watched a vid ages ago on spyrers where he made the argument that the rig names are similar to tau words for related things. He speculated that the rigs come from tau defectors or ones that deal with rogue traders
most likely just a reach, these suits are older than the Tau have been a space faring
TBH I liked the older versions of the Spyrers compared to the new ones with models... the old designs seemed more varied and natural to the setting, more easy to functionally distinguish and add to the character of the users while the new ones seem all the same just with different loadouts, and they would fit more as a unit in an actual major military faction that has advanced standardized equipment compared to expensive suits used by noble families which would logically be at least a bit customized and varied depending on the user and the manufacturers.
10:00 ALso this is unrelated but I jsut realized that the lasguns used by the Van Saar troppers here have some design similarities to the Hylas weapons of the Leagues of Votann, specifically in how they are bulkier than normal Imperial lasguns and how the front tapers towards the barrel rather than being just poking out of the front of the gun block, like in common IG lasguns. Not sure if that's intentional or if the designers of the Van Saar and Votann stuff just independently came up with the same idea of what a more advanced lasgun should look like.
Van Saar have access to a mostly working STC. It possibly has designs that the dwarfs base some of their weapons on. Also, Necromunda has squats there, and those squats may be visiting Votann kin. These squats would be able to help keep the STC repaired and perhaps build hunting rigs.
Rigs have been linked to Tau, but it’s the Votann who actually have the Tau their technology kickstart.
Personally, I think some bespoke rigs will be votann made. Their tech would look like dark age tech, it has the same root.
I LOVE Necromunda content. Thanks you very much for this. I'll wait for the Necromunda gangs stories impatiently. 😎👍
That first picture of a hive city illustrates the scale so well
Oh look new video for me to rewatch over and over again
Great as usual, hive cities are realy intresting topic
I just caught a glimpse of my notifications '' The Horror of...' , and immediately i thought , oh Luetin posted a new video . Not the strangest association , considering )
My lord loremaster
I love your wisedom
Pls tell us more about the truth and glory of the kyborg blessing
I've been waiting for this video ever since I first found your channel way back when... Praise the Emperor!
18:16 thanks for the Guyver Reference 😎👍
Love that you threw The Guyver in there 😊
Spyrers, to me, have always read as lore-breaking, angst teen's OP fan-fic.
Outlanders has a few pretty funky gangs.
And just as I was begining to think dark kamen rider, you bring up the Guyver pics 👌
Love the necromunda content! I like Warhammer scaled down to a more manageable space and these kinds of worlds and series are perfect for that!
Necromunda and Gorkamorka use a bunch of 2nd ed rules. I think this is just the right scale to use them.
Inquisitor was the other skirmish game, and Mordheim.
Thank you bro. I love a good variety of lore.
I think it would be cool if they did some more Arbites stories.
I remember reading about spyrers in a white dwarf magasine 20 years ago or something. My perseption was that some of them at least was the bored childen of nobles who where thrill seakers, sorta like the yautja from predator, but one thing always struck me as odd, just how powerfull a relative amateur could become by just wearing a fancy suit. They are described with as 4 kind of specialists, with one sounding like a mini mareus calgar with powerarmor and twin powerfists, the other with active camoflauge, There where 2 melee specialist where one was described a bit like a wardancer, the other more like a evesor assain.
Through their gear they are able to attain extreme combat power, to hunt in the underhive with relative low risk. If you can hunt something like a ganger from house goliath for the fun of it just by donning a fancy suit, and the suit have a description that sounds like they could give a space marine a run for their money, then that suit must be insanely overpowered, and not something you would waste on a complete amateur like some bored noble brat.
I get that the suits are rare and that nobles have money to push around, but does that mean that at every spire there are nobles with the resources to have stuff lying around that would make a inquisitor combat team jealous, or gear that make an untrained human be able to go up against a space marine in specific situations. It always stuck in my mind that that the powerscale was off.
So why are elite units like inquisitorial storm troops, lucifer blacks, or elysian storm troopers not given better gear? Even if they can't produce gear as powerfull, then if a local planetary noble with the resources they have, it seems silly that especially the rogue trader retinues, inquisitorial troops or retinues can't produce stuff that is somewhat similar, considering that they have access to resources on a completely different scale, or if they want something can just confiscate it.
I never read in the lore about spyrers fighting space marines, but as I recall just 1 or 2 spyrers where pretty much the apex of what you could run into in Necromunda, with the possible exception of a full combat team of arbites. I assume it's just a case of different authors, and different scenarios and in my head lore, I just put it down to dark age tech space magic goes boom, and didn't worry to much about it.
I thought they were typical of Imperial nobility, almost ritual.
They are not power armour. They incorporate features that could be of Imperial make for the truly, obscenely wealthy.
The points cost limits the size of a spyrer gang.
Leutin only mentioned it briefly, about where the suits come from…
They are probably XenoTech, and that’s why elite Imperial troops don’t have access to them. They are bespoke, prohibitively expensive, and probably illegal.
While ArcheoTech is traditionally considered their likely origin, newer lore hints that this incredible technology is of Tau origin. It is the Tau that love battlesuits, who experiment actively with new technology, and who do have links with humanity via their assimilated human colonies. But… Who actually kickstarted Tau technology, and gave them their plasma and shallow warp skimming systems?
THE LEAGUES OF VOTANN.
Yes, the space dwarfs. Genetically modified humans from the dark age of technology, sent off on generation ships with lots of STC assistance and resources. And who are the best engineers, armourers and weapons smiths? Obviously the dwarfs. The Votann still have all the old STC technology, and they still develop new ideas and refinements. But anything they make might seem like human technology from 15,000 years ago. The dwarfs have long had careful trade links with the Imperium and of course the Tau, and there have been Squats on places like Necromunda… squats who may have been visiting Votann on secretive missions.
So that’s my take, and I think if Necromunda gets new life breathed into it, we may find that the Spyrers are actually outfitted by Votann artificers, by way of the Tau (as the Tau are known to the Imperium but the dwarfs are still trying to stay hidden so they are forcibly reabsorbed into the Imperium.)
@@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm great reply thank you. Some stuff I definatly was not aware of or had considered, good food for thought :)
@@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm The old game didn't make a big deal out of it. They are not made on Necromunda, they are imported.
They could be produced in the Imperium if someone with obscene amounts of wealth ordered one. Something like digital weapons, chameleoline and personal flight etc is easily available for the toffs.
Great video, sir! I always love learning something new from the 40k universe! Are those suits comprable then to Space Marine power armor? I mean, they lijely dont have a black carapace or all the other enhancements. They sound like 40K batman without the moral code or inhibitions. So cool, great story, Leutin!
The one person I'm actually putting notifications on for because your videos do not show up on home screen in the algorithm
Perfect video length for a nap, blessed be Luetin for the sleep deprived.
Amazing video as always 👍 Really weird guess that the Jokaero would be the ones to have made spyrers though lol. Imo this is entirely not their style, so I would venture a less well known hand is at play here (which is very fun)
Luetin vid, I click.
great video as always LT
Great video content! I love the spire hunters
I used to play Spyrers in Necromunda (the version from the mid 90s). I favored all except the Yeld, but that was mostly due to how the models looked at the time.
Unfortunately, I didn't get to play many games with them since there wasn't much interest in Necromunda in my area.
Still, of the "gangs" that could be played, the Spyrers will always be in my top 3.
How did the spyrers play?
And what are the other two? I like the simplicity of the four basic gangs.
@@SusCalvin of the few games I did get to play with them, they worked quite well. The biggest advantage was not needing another Spyrer nearby for certain LD tests. Plus, not needing to worry about Ammo Tests, or other campaign related things (expenses, possibly starving, etc) was helpful.
The downside to them though, was only having 5 models (at most). So you could get overwhelmed by superior numbers if not careful.
As for the other two gangs I would put in my top 3, that would be the Van Saar and the Delaque.
First time hearing about this. Right on Luetin
I love these voyages into the Grimdark
I really loved this video I just wish it was longer
A new upload? The emperor has truly blessed us
Love this series……so interesting for a City Dweller in the 21st century to imagine a world like this evolved from today
A sacrifice to the algo
Excited to hear about the Genestealers !👍🏼
I remember playing these guys at my FLGS as a young teen. I won our league with them (I had no clue how OP they were, I just liked the models).
Finally another video! Woop Woop! Love you Luetin
Thought: could a cultist of Vashtorr, theoretically, make several pacts to gradually "unlock" and "put on" the suit? It would be 1 in a 1,000,000,000 kind of chance, but hey, big time player right there.
loving this necromunda content
deep dive into lore about a collapsed/dead hive city? can't wait 🤞
LUETIN WORK GANG RISE
Perfect timing to be my bedtime story!
Rich ppl with rich weapons, hunting the poor, enjoying the misery, disconnected from the long term consequences. And justice is only ever a dream and the end of your life is just a matter of roulette every day you drag yourself from your hab to your miserable worker assignment. The dark dystopia of a hopeless existence, which is an ever present reality of our short and often violently ended lives.
On a somewhat related note; gotta give respect to 40k, grim dark does a pretty good job of getting close to the IRL existence I described above.
Might have to find a new more grimdark setting so i can get that escapism back lol
lol. touch grass
Sound more like riches murderers killing poor ones.
If you have time to espouse cynical nonsense on UA-cam and watch hour long UA-cam videos, you’re not living in a dystopia. Also, in what world is hunting the poor going on
tbf if you live in the underhive there is a high likelihood you dont work in a factory and are a ganger
I can't help but think Necromunda is going to be the setting for the Warhammer TV series....GW has been on a mission to flesh out this setting..
Nice job my dude
Ah the Spyrers, the most op starterset in Necromunda.
How many played them? I thought they were small gangs. A spyrer costs a lot of creds.
Thank you! That was inspyrering!
Referencing Guyver… amazing.
Around 18:10, cameo: Bio Booster Armor Guyver! 😃👍🏻
I want more storytelling, like "orky fings" love that one
Thank you , LT .
🐺 Loupis Canis .