@@megachef0421 Yeah but the difference is centerfire ammo can reach out to 800 yards plus. Airsoft you are lucky if it even reaches 80 yards. Airsoft forces you to walk right up to the enemy in the complete open. This is why I don't like milsim events in open areas. It goes against instinct to do what you need to get within range. In the MOUT facilities at least buildings force engagements to be well within the BB's effective range.
@@fan9775 a lot of them just pulled the trigger, but are sitting on the ground, aim is nice with each trigger pull. DMR or Sniper for that sweet sweet range will avoid a lot of people “dead”
You guys got lucky too. You spotted the beans on the hill there - the chechens were already at treeline when the dismounts arrived on the hillside there and we got the order to continue hitting the nato PB instead of crunching on the humvees with the help of the technicals. Would have wiped the whole nato element there but instead we split up and got knocked out.
@8:08. “Pickup our wounded on the hill” aka me. 😂I was the only dead nato on the hill Also, Jet was an awesome PL. thanks jet for leading us to victory
Well, if this was actual combat you'd stay well over 2-3 hundred meters away, and stay low to the ground. Being that far away means that hitting you would be hard. I always say, in arisoft, due to limited range and accuracy, 10 meters is 100, 25 is 300, 50 is 600, and 100 is 1000. A real m4 has an operational range of roughly 600m. Normal AEGs will be extremely innacurate at 50-60m so there's your equivalency. 10m is easy enough to target, and in real life 100 is too. 100m is barely reachable unless you got specialist weapons such as DMR/precision rifles, so too in the real world 800-1000m is only feasible with precission rifles.
@@ravenwing199 What cover? Also you can call blankfire hits. At the bare minimum you are required to react, take cover, prone out, displace... Not stand there shooting back.
@@shutdown3734 not being a Debbie downer that would be amazing if that was possible! But I am being logical which means unless they change the bb in some way to where it won't kill you going 2000 to 3000 fps then yeah it ain't gonna work
Everyone's kitted in modern outfit, but the capabilities of the gear and the tactics used are like 1800s era combat; open fields, advancing lines, regrouping in sight of the enemy... interesting contrast to how modern weaponry has made such drastic changes to combat.
I was the squad leader for both of the militia technicals and we were told that our white truck was alive after josh had told you that all of the vehicles were dead. I think that whole situation was completely insane.
The only way Milsim west could get more accurate if they routinely had squads walk around the AO, head back to base, sit in their barracks, and go out again.
Hey, they could also get airsofters to have more rank than the military cadre, that way we can have know it all LTs with no actual experience! Or make airsofters pain rocks as part of a detail
It was an honor for my friend and I to get slain by jet and his men. Stavropol was the best milsim ever, thanks for making it so awesome. (I know Jet wasn’t in charge of the event, but seeing him and fighting him was indescribably awesome!)
I was an honorary squad-mate of 1-1 during the skirmish, we got cutoff from our main element and rushed by at least half a platoon and a technical and the hummer was down... we held as long as we could with no cover but they had no mercy on our poor souls.
@@Galactipod I wasn't an actual squadmate of 1-1, but I ran with them for a while! I was actually in 2nd platoon but was tired of waiting around at base
@desertfoxairsoft Hey cool playing with you Jet. I was one of the dismount gunners on Papa 2. I also got killed with you in the last battle. Good shit man, see you at azeri.
What hits specifically? A HMMWV got hit in the front with a Taginn that no one heard. Later the driver inspected the truck and it was found. The driver sat out for 2 hours. That was at the dried creek bed. In the open during the skirmish in the video a HMMWV got nicked on the deck extension. Which was called and both trucks were considered dead regardless if it was hit or not. During the night the gun truck got yelled at for not taking a hit and upon inspection it was found the truck was not hit but taginn rounds were found around it. Both continued to sit. It was too unsafe to move and called themselves out of play. They didn't initiate emergency flashers because they didn't ruin everyone's night vision on both sides. The engines were turned off and the crews stayed with their trucks. That started an issue with one of the truck's backup cameras not being able to be shut off at that time. Other than that the HMMWVs were hit over and over again returning to base with hazards on as they were told to do after a skirmish when they were out. No one was paying attention to the Hazards. Or the Russians or Militia didn't know that Hazards were how a truck identified it was out. Also the enemy forces technicals were hit multiple times and didn't notice or had to be stopped to identify those hits. Hopefully the TACSOP will be updated so everyone is on the same page next year. Fun fact as well both HMMWVs had constant radio ability for safety reasons. This was also so that if a truck was hit that truck was on frequency and could be told to stop by Cadre.
See I look at that vehicle drama and think "wow, if this was magfed paint milsim, this vehicle hit, not hit drama wouldn't even happen". I really wanna get back into this sport but man, it's really looking like while magfed paint has a lot of the same problems airsoft has. It just seems to have less of those problems because, well, paint.
So, complete civilian here. Is that really what people do in real war, just walking calmly in a line in an open field? Since jet's in charge and is a vet, I assume he's doing this because that's what he did prior, irl? Wouldn't that just mean every single one of you would just get shot in the head instantly? Rifles have obscene range and yall are just standing up in less-than ankle high crops/grass. If anyone with real life military experience can fill me in on why or if this is done that'd be awesome. I'm really curious if this stuff happens, let alone works.
that battle was all over the place from losing all hope to kill most of a squad up closed with a pistol alone in flat terrain, little late to this but loved the vid
Now imagine if they had access to RC aor support, to be honest I'm sure it would be amazing, Flite test made an A-10 that shoots bbs, most satisfying thing.
nothing like a wide open battle with no cover in some obscure field. This is airsoft.
Nah it’s the revolutionary war
What do you think Afghanistan is
@@megachef0421 Yeah but the difference is centerfire ammo can reach out to 800 yards plus. Airsoft you are lucky if it even reaches 80 yards. Airsoft forces you to walk right up to the enemy in the complete open. This is why I don't like milsim events in open areas. It goes against instinct to do what you need to get within range. In the MOUT facilities at least buildings force engagements to be well within the BB's effective range.
@Luke L. Lol u like that idea
That slow turn at 3:40 :D . MOUT is where Milsim shines.
3:03
That sounds epic. With the desperation in his voice and the sounds of weapons being shot in the background
ikr
Bro for reals!! 😂
the sky looks beautiful too
The blank fire really goes a long way to making the immersion.
Was that what that was?
10:42
yup!
It looked so cool
It’s all fun and games till they load the wrong mag
Why does the gun shooting look like a real gun at 10:43 ?
Seems like a sniper would have a big effect in that open field battle.
Or some DMRs
You just have to pull the triggä raight
@@fan9775 a lot of them just pulled the trigger, but are sitting on the ground, aim is nice with each trigger pull. DMR or Sniper for that sweet sweet range will avoid a lot of people “dead”
The one DMR on the hill ( me) died. I got quite a few tho before they murdered me lol
@@norasykora9634 Good stuff man!
You guys got lucky too. You spotted the beans on the hill there - the chechens were already at treeline when the dismounts arrived on the hillside there and we got the order to continue hitting the nato PB instead of crunching on the humvees with the help of the technicals. Would have wiped the whole nato element there but instead we split up and got knocked out.
Agreed, was a little confused when we got the orders to keep pushing and over extending rather than crushing natos maneuverability and securing ours
@8:08. “Pickup our wounded on the hill” aka me. 😂I was the only dead nato on the hill
Also, Jet was an awesome PL. thanks jet for leading us to victory
Did youbxarry an dmr?
7:05 I love how jet started running towards the humvee as if he was going to catch it lol
Looks like it's getting dark enough to break out the nods
Yea. It was lol. Every body said “it’ll be a quick raid. You won’t need em” liars. Lol
"Black Hawk Down reference"
The next Arma is looking really good.
lol
Nah, non of the vehicles ran over their own forces, launching them a mile away
I mean, if this was a Real War, everyone would be dead 😂 but it is a good serie tho!!
Nahh
In philippines mindanao i saw ph army on the open field heavy fighting luckily no one got hit
nah the military always have gun fights in open field
@@lemonlimefreshaswine4149 against untrained terrorists
Well, if this was actual combat you'd stay well over 2-3 hundred meters away, and stay low to the ground. Being that far away means that hitting you would be hard.
I always say, in arisoft, due to limited range and accuracy, 10 meters is 100, 25 is 300, 50 is 600, and 100 is 1000.
A real m4 has an operational range of roughly 600m. Normal AEGs will be extremely innacurate at 50-60m so there's your equivalency.
10m is easy enough to target, and in real life 100 is too. 100m is barely reachable unless you got specialist weapons such as DMR/precision rifles, so too in the real world 800-1000m is only feasible with precission rifles.
Honestly what a beautiful scenery for a battle like this
#1- Finally got my gear together, hope I can start playing again!
2 squad leader C. Notric. I went to school with him was better friends with his brother. That’s cool that he made it this far. Congrats man
One of my other good friends was also there too just figured that out. I hung out with him today.
@7:39. Yo that was me! Glad I made it in, that battle in the field was crazy!
jet should do an impresion kit on what he wore in iraq
There a video he made a year I go I guess that he mention it was the gears he use in his service.
Love the blatant disregard for blank fire at 2:23. Jeez guys
They're already low and behind cover. You don't t call hits from blanks anyways.
@@ravenwing199 What cover? Also you can call blankfire hits. At the bare minimum you are required to react, take cover, prone out, displace... Not stand there shooting back.
@@TacticalHandleGaming The hill. We don't see the other side for all we know they're just low silhouettes.
@@ravenwing199 I don't know what video your watching. You can literally see the muzzle flashes. 🤣
@@TacticalHandleGaming I mean we don't have a view from the other side. Again they could be quite low.
Imagine when technology gets good enough that airsoft will have the range and accuracy of their real life counter parts
That's never gonna happen. To get a piece of plastic to go that far it would have to be going way too fast and would hurt people
@@charliehendrix1265 ok Debbie downer
@@shutdown3734 not being a Debbie downer that would be amazing if that was possible! But I am being logical which means unless they change the bb in some way to where it won't kill you going 2000 to 3000 fps then yeah it ain't gonna work
@@charliehendrix1265 This guy is either 10 yrs old , or the mental capacity of a banana .
@@christinabarnes5602 what you think a bb can go that fast? If so then you have the brain capacity of a banana
"ya know what? all these vehicles are dead"
lmao. I agree with that call. I think at that point everyone was getting tired of the vehicle warfare
Everyone's kitted in modern outfit, but the capabilities of the gear and the tactics used are like 1800s era combat; open fields, advancing lines, regrouping in sight of the enemy... interesting contrast to how modern weaponry has made such drastic changes to combat.
I was the squad leader for both of the militia technicals and we were told that our white truck was alive after josh had told you that all of the vehicles were dead. I think that whole situation was completely insane.
The only way Milsim west could get more accurate if they routinely had squads walk around the AO, head back to base, sit in their barracks, and go out again.
Hey, they could also get airsofters to have more rank than the military cadre, that way we can have know it all LTs with no actual experience!
Or make airsofters pain rocks as part of a detail
10:43 he said “Screw this they gon have to gie
I love how cursed airsoft looks in open fields like this lol. Looks like tons of fun though!
the guys shooting blanks must be having so much fun during this
6:36 “i’m going to be on UA-cam” 😂
8:30 dudes were basically executed
Casual war crimes
It was an honor for my friend and I to get slain by jet and his men. Stavropol was the best milsim ever, thanks for making it so awesome. (I know Jet wasn’t in charge of the event, but seeing him and fighting him was indescribably awesome!)
I was an honorary squad-mate of 1-1 during the skirmish, we got cutoff from our main element and rushed by at least half a platoon and a technical and the hummer was down... we held as long as we could with no cover but they had no mercy on our poor souls.
8:05 ayyy that’s me with the fatty lmg
"Honorary" means "as an honor; not actually." If you were an honorary squad-mate, that means you weren't an actual squad mate.
@@Galactipod I wasn't an actual squadmate of 1-1, but I ran with them for a while! I was actually in 2nd platoon but was tired of waiting around at base
Dude with the 40k hat patch at 3:55. Gotta respect the man to represent.
3:56 imperial aquila on the downed guy's hat, love it
This is one of the best things airsoft can provide. You and your guys did a great job!
I love how notric gives of like- the typical big weapons guy vibes every army movie has- so over enthusiastic and just "HELL YEAH! 'MURICA!"
That was awesome!
🤯🤯🤯I must attend to an MSW event in the US sometime soon.
BTW; I'll see you next March in Mexico 😃😃😃
3:59 this man has the Holy Aquila on his hat. A noble guardsman.
I know literally nothing about airsoft but this is highly entertaining. I do not know why
6:05 this is where laser pointers turn into real life crosshairs
That part when the guy on the radio started yelling and the gun started firing was something out of call of duty
What a vid man loved the intensity of the milsim
At 11:35 how you dodged that flash light to sneak up on those people. Completely epic
I love these episodes! Keep making please.
that dude looked way pissed when he got shot in the truck XD
That shots are looking real tho😅 10:42
I’m not gunnu lie, the tactics and reaction to enemy fire in this hurts my head 😂🤦🏻♂️
This looks super fun
wow this game has some amazing graphics
1:40 missed the chance for a nice "Ride of the Valkyries" soundtrack there
Seems like some pretty legit BB wars going on here. Notric certainly sounded like he was having fun going over the hill.
I wish there were tracer units it would of looked sick
11:43 Remember, there's no Geneva Convention in airsoft.
Congratulations on 2 1/2 million
Small world I know notric, and I bought his aeg
Eyyyyy how it’s going lol
@@collinvannotric1255 whats up brother
This is like a full on civil war
3:56 The Emperor Protects
Since i was like 8 ive dreamt of going to a milsim game. It remains a dream for now DX One day
You gotta do another one of these l enjoyed it alot
I wish we have events like that here in NJ
Iive in nj airsoft here is ok .. but not that fun
Notric seems to be enjoying himself
11:12 an ambulance passes by.
4 mins in and I can already tell that Nordic is my favorite character in this
Y’all took airsoft to the next level😂
Hahaha I remember this. It was insane, but so much fun
Wait... you were there??
@@shadowfury428 yeah, you can see jet reviving me at one point. I have the red and blue patch on my shoulder. Wearing a patrol cap
That’s so cool and I’m REALLY jealous! I want to play with Jet so bad!
IDK what’s more scarier an ARP9 on full auto or 2nd SL Notric Assualt rifle
Not gon lie but the sunset is so beautiful
This looks so fun
Love these kind of videos
Be great if you could do more
Never been this early keep up the good work jet🤙
Love this game play
They be dropping lol, like actually dropping. I LOVE IT!
HELL YEAH
1:45 holy shit he sounds like Pvt. Allen from COD 2: big red one
who else was like YESSSSSSSSSS
This was here in eastern Wa wasnt it? looks like way too much fun
Yeah it’s in Goldendale/Centerville
A surprise to run into you just now on squad, nice playing though you’re a great sl.
Best UA-camr
Fantastic video, broke my immersion when command let you win though.
Jet you have inspired me to make a airsoft channel I am your biggest fan
Ngl this looks fun as hell
I haven't been so disappointed in my life this video is as bro he tried to be a bad ass and died every time
So who wants to bet that Jet lost his voice after this? Dude! Great video as always Jet! 👍🏽💜
He pretty much did, and so did another PL
6:36 "hey u on UA-cam" some guy said
Greetings from the gunner in white technical!
😎
Brother! :D
Many NATO were slain that day.😎
is that in oregon those mountains look very familiar
Good video. Lovin the content!
@desertfoxairsoft Hey cool playing with you Jet. I was one of the dismount gunners on Papa 2. I also got killed with you in the last battle. Good shit man, see you at azeri.
This is dope
We had so many issues with the humvees not calling hits that weekend it was ridiculous
That’s the problems with technicals at events. That and nobody calls grenade hits. My two biggest pet peeves about milsim events.
What hits specifically? A HMMWV got hit in the front with a Taginn that no one heard. Later the driver inspected the truck and it was found. The driver sat out for 2 hours. That was at the dried creek bed. In the open during the skirmish in the video a HMMWV got nicked on the deck extension. Which was called and both trucks were considered dead regardless if it was hit or not. During the night the gun truck got yelled at for not taking a hit and upon inspection it was found the truck was not hit but taginn rounds were found around it. Both continued to sit. It was too unsafe to move and called themselves out of play. They didn't initiate emergency flashers because they didn't ruin everyone's night vision on both sides. The engines were turned off and the crews stayed with their trucks. That started an issue with one of the truck's backup cameras not being able to be shut off at that time. Other than that the HMMWVs were hit over and over again returning to base with hazards on as they were told to do after a skirmish when they were out. No one was paying attention to the Hazards. Or the Russians or Militia didn't know that Hazards were how a truck identified it was out. Also the enemy forces technicals were hit multiple times and didn't notice or had to be stopped to identify those hits. Hopefully the TACSOP will be updated so everyone is on the same page next year. Fun fact as well both HMMWVs had constant radio ability for safety reasons. This was also so that if a truck was hit that truck was on frequency and could be told to stop by Cadre.
Soooo Imma speedsofter and ngl those blanks confused me for a minute lol
*Milsim West Supposed To Be Realistic For The Most Part* The One Guy: HIT and Just Sits There
Whew, early... I wanna start airsoft except I’m 15 and in Canada 😂
same but im in cali
I’m 13 in Poland and i do airsoft. Don’t know ur rules tho.
@@tytuskijowski4547 its not rules or anything, its just cuz all the fields are closed cuz of corona
where in Canada? If your near Ottawa , there are 4-5 fields less than an hours drive .
@@christinabarnes5602 Edmonton
nice guys well done
Was he actually using a strobe light around 9:30 or was the cameras framerates just different?
10:43 bro what is that for a weapon, bcs it is like real to me with the muzzle fire the Sound and evrything
Can we get a final part please
Holy shit awesome video Jet
See I look at that vehicle drama and think "wow, if this was magfed paint milsim, this vehicle hit, not hit drama wouldn't even happen".
I really wanna get back into this sport but man, it's really looking like while magfed paint has a lot of the same problems airsoft has. It just seems to have less of those problems because, well, paint.
So, complete civilian here. Is that really what people do in real war, just walking calmly in a line in an open field? Since jet's in charge and is a vet, I assume he's doing this because that's what he did prior, irl? Wouldn't that just mean every single one of you would just get shot in the head instantly? Rifles have obscene range and yall are just standing up in less-than ankle high crops/grass.
If anyone with real life military experience can fill me in on why or if this is done that'd be awesome. I'm really curious if this stuff happens, let alone works.
I feel like thunderstruck should be playing in the background
that battle was all over the place from losing all hope to kill most of a squad up closed with a pistol alone in flat terrain, little late to this but loved the vid
THIS MAKES ME WANT TO DO THIS
Now imagine if they had access to RC aor support, to be honest I'm sure it would be amazing, Flite test made an A-10 that shoots bbs, most satisfying thing.