Nah, Keanu is a talented actor, with range. Before he was a wholesome meme, I used to argue with coworkers about it. An abusive southern husband in The Gift, a smooth Florida lawyer in the Devil's Advocate, a dimwitted rocker in Bill & Ted, a murderer in the Collector, a cynical hacker/messiah in The Matrix... he's pretty underrated in terms of his acting ability.
@ oh no doubt. I’m not insulting Keanus range or his ability. I just mean that he seems to fit with Hobie in this movie in every way. I can see him pulling up to the studio, knowing every guard and crew members name, happy and ready to work, and then getting on the set of a gothic castle and having to do a proper British accent across from Gary Oldman. Its not a lack of ability or charisma, just miscasting.
I'm not quite so sure that's what he is. He's certainly a team player, a loyalist. But there was something sinister about the way he describes extrees.
@@steveparadis2978 Right about what? That they were the ones responsible for Baird disappearing for a day, as opposed to the many times it was Baird's drinking and womanizing? Hobie was only right if you take it at face value that a group of writers looking to form a union are pinko commies, or that an extra's lack of blind allegiance to the studio makes them fundamentally untrustworthy. The whole film is about the narrative we place on events, in order to give them the meaning we want. But I think on a certain level, it's asking us who's making up that narrative, and who benefits from it. The narrative that Hobie is a kindhearted young man of pure intent is just one more story that serves the studio. But from another point of view, by blindly serving the studio and ratting out the secret union meetings, he's betraying his own interests. This actually happened in real life, as writers who wanted to unionize for fair pay were labeled communists and blacklisted. Hobie is the kind of actor who'd turn in his colleagues to tuck himself in with the studio. Every oppressive regime succeeds by rewarding the oppressed for screwing one another over.
The payoff for this scene is what makes it: in the final cut Hobie just says "It's complicated" and straight up oozes charm. Hobie can't make the original stilted, overly-theatrical dialogue work, but the problem here is the script and not Hobie. The man's a damn star.
This kind of picture went out of fashion ten years before the movie's 50's setting. Even then it was kept alive by casting normal guys like Joel McCrea instead of the "Would that it were so simple" crowd.
When the Coen Brothers announced The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, the intention was for them to write it and have a different director for each short. Some time later, it was decided they would direct the entire film after all, and in the announcement they themselves said: "we wanted to enlist the great directors working today. It was our great fortune that they both were available.”
He ended up doing a lot of Westerns, but before then played regular leading roles. But his two pictures with Preston Sturges are among the most sophisticated comedies ever made in Hollywood. ua-cam.com/video/8CxEpkGlZLs/v-deo.htmlsi=WO4n-OtcpOT_gD8Y
Solo rather stymied his career for a few years methinks.. However he was rather good in Oppenheimer. Hopefully we'll see more of him in the coming years.
I was on set for a low budget film, about a baseball team, and the actor couldn’t say the line “ It ain’t over till the fat lady sings. “ He had never heard that expression before, and couldn’t get the emphasis in the right places. So, the Director, camera man, sound guy , script girl, and other actors were trying to tell him how to say it. We all REALLY wanted him to do it correctly, because we were outside in the sun, on a baseball field in 100 degrees in Utah, in July. And the guy couldn’t say it. It was more insane than this scene. Btw, we could only do that, because it was a low budget film. It’s actually considered a sin in Hollywood to give an actor a line reading. Which is when you tell them HOW to deliver a line. Actors HATE it.
Probably should've taken a queue from this movie and find an alternate line that fits the actor better. In this movie's case instead of saying "would that t'were so simple" instead he ends up saying "It's complicated" and it fits.
I think it also goes to show how film must be fundamentally collaborative. No matter how good the line is, it's no good if the actor can't deliver it. And the actor was chosen for bigger reasons than their ability to deliver that one line. So sometimes, you have to change the line. On the other hand, I think the Coens were kinda getting at the way America replaces its image of the cultural elite with good old boys, because they're unquestioningly loyal. This makes them look like they're salt of the earth and fundamentally decent. But I was kinda skeezed out by the way good ol' Hobie talked about them extrees. Creepy.
I think Fiennes may have been channeling Laurence Olivier, who as a director could go from "Dear boy" to F-bombs in seconds flat. I wonder too if the Coens let these two go on for as long as they could stretch it. Like Channing Tatum's "No Dames" bit: he kept gaying it up more and they let him go ahead
Can’t help but imagine that this is exactly how it played out for Keanu Reeves on his first day of shooting for Bram Stoker’s Dracula
Nah, Keanu is a talented actor, with range. Before he was a wholesome meme, I used to argue with coworkers about it. An abusive southern husband in The Gift, a smooth Florida lawyer in the Devil's Advocate, a dimwitted rocker in Bill & Ted, a murderer in the Collector, a cynical hacker/messiah in The Matrix... he's pretty underrated in terms of his acting ability.
@ oh no doubt. I’m not insulting Keanus range or his ability. I just mean that he seems to fit with Hobie in this movie in every way. I can see him pulling up to the studio, knowing every guard and crew members name, happy and ready to work, and then getting on the set of a gothic castle and having to do a proper British accent across from Gary Oldman. Its not a lack of ability or charisma, just miscasting.
@@whochangedmyscreennamehe's exactly the same in all of those films
Except Keanu was on time
Haha absolutely! KR is a fine actor but so completely wrong for Harker in Dracula.
“Completely unnecessary under the circumstances” such a hilarious line.
He said, ruefully.😆😆
The shoe squeaking is the cherry on the cake....🤣
One of my favorite scenes of all-time. Such an underrated movie.
"A mirthless chuckle." One of the funniest scenes in film history.
The way this kind-hearted young man with pure intent drives the director into an unhinged breakdown simply by being himself is Coen Brothers gold.
I'm not quite so sure that's what he is. He's certainly a team player, a loyalist. But there was something sinister about the way he describes extrees.
@@rottensquid As it happens, he was right.
@@steveparadis2978 Right about what? That they were the ones responsible for Baird disappearing for a day, as opposed to the many times it was Baird's drinking and womanizing? Hobie was only right if you take it at face value that a group of writers looking to form a union are pinko commies, or that an extra's lack of blind allegiance to the studio makes them fundamentally untrustworthy.
The whole film is about the narrative we place on events, in order to give them the meaning we want. But I think on a certain level, it's asking us who's making up that narrative, and who benefits from it. The narrative that Hobie is a kindhearted young man of pure intent is just one more story that serves the studio. But from another point of view, by blindly serving the studio and ratting out the secret union meetings, he's betraying his own interests. This actually happened in real life, as writers who wanted to unionize for fair pay were labeled communists and blacklisted. Hobie is the kind of actor who'd turn in his colleagues to tuck himself in with the studio. Every oppressive regime succeeds by rewarding the oppressed for screwing one another over.
The payoff for this scene is what makes it: in the final cut Hobie just says "It's complicated" and straight up oozes charm. Hobie can't make the original stilted, overly-theatrical dialogue work, but the problem here is the script and not Hobie. The man's a damn star.
This scene and the payoff made for one of my favorite moviegoing experiences due to how hard my audience laughed. 😂
@@MotionPictureDude'your' audience? Did you make the film?
@@Kyle-l8p yeah… I am Joel and Ethan Coen
@@MotionPictureDude no you're not
This kind of picture went out of fashion ten years before the movie's 50's setting. Even then it was kept alive by casting normal guys like Joel McCrea instead of the "Would that it were so simple" crowd.
6:36
The way he makes him mirror him, then smacks his hand for making the same gesture he did... but then he does the gesture again is hilarious 😂😂
“Indeed you are”
“Indeed you have”
Every single thing about this scene is *perfection*. The Coen Brothers are utterly peerless.
Moreover, flamboyant or otherwise (in other movie roles), Ralph Fiennes pulls 'terrifying' flawlessly.
Brilliant actor.
When the Coen Brothers announced The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, the intention was for them to write it and have a different director for each short.
Some time later, it was decided they would direct the entire film after all, and in the announcement they themselves said: "we wanted to enlist the great directors working today. It was our great fortune that they both were available.”
Omg, they both must have had such a blast filming this scene.
The initial hand swap while keeping calm from Fiennes is a thing of beauty
how did they nor break character is a mystery, this scene must have 300000 bloopers. Priceless.
This was (supposedly) based on Western actor Joel McCrea back in the 40's when he was cast in his first comedy.
I love when Hollywood makes movies about the process, not taking itself too seriously.
He ended up doing a lot of Westerns, but before then played regular leading roles. But his two pictures with Preston Sturges are among the most sophisticated comedies ever made in Hollywood.
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Alden Ehrenreich is so phenomenal in this scene: I honestly thought he was going to go onto bigger things.
Solo rather stymied his career for a few years methinks.. However he was rather good in Oppenheimer. Hopefully we'll see more of him in the coming years.
Would that it were so simple
@ would that it TWERE
I could watch this on a loop, it's so funny
The sound design of this scene - on top of so many other things that are perfect - is also perfect.
I love how exhausted Fiennes looks trying to give him direction 😆
Man this movie is excellent, so freaking hillarious. The Coen brothers are great
Everything is perfect here. The sound design is hilarious. Even the footsteps have a perfect comedic delivery.
That mirthless chuckle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was on set for a low budget film, about a baseball team, and the actor couldn’t say the line “ It ain’t over till the fat lady sings. “
He had never heard that expression before, and couldn’t get the emphasis in the right places.
So, the Director, camera man, sound guy , script girl, and other actors were trying to tell him how to say it. We all REALLY wanted him to do it correctly, because we were outside in the sun, on a baseball field in 100 degrees in Utah, in July. And the guy couldn’t say it.
It was more insane than this scene.
Btw, we could only do that, because it was a low budget film. It’s actually considered a sin in Hollywood to give an actor a line reading. Which is when you tell them HOW to deliver a line. Actors HATE it.
It isn't easy being under that pressure. Actors have been destroyed in such scenarios.
Probably should've taken a queue from this movie and find an alternate line that fits the actor better. In this movie's case instead of saying "would that t'were so simple" instead he ends up saying "It's complicated" and it fits.
Yeah any serious actor will rather walk off then take a reading
You guys sound horrible
I think it also goes to show how film must be fundamentally collaborative. No matter how good the line is, it's no good if the actor can't deliver it. And the actor was chosen for bigger reasons than their ability to deliver that one line. So sometimes, you have to change the line.
On the other hand, I think the Coens were kinda getting at the way America replaces its image of the cultural elite with good old boys, because they're unquestioningly loyal. This makes them look like they're salt of the earth and fundamentally decent. But I was kinda skeezed out by the way good ol' Hobie talked about them extrees. Creepy.
Haunted, by Biff’s grip
"c-cut"
"Wouldthatitweresosimple"
No no, say it trippingly.
You tell what kind of man Hobie is by the way that he and the guard talk.
'Ralph' is a genius.
if only it was so simple
This scene is why I was pleased when he was cast as Han Solo.
Ralph Fiennes, man, what a gem!
Ironically, Hobie turns out to be smart and is the hero of the movie.
Most underrated characters of all
Time
His entrance and then the eyes to camera as it tracks him
A very patient director to welcome his actor so nicely when the rest of the crew wants to murder him.
0:17 0:44 3:27 4:18 love her facial expression 😂
Emily Beecham.
3:30. A moment of silence for the death of acting.
5:21. Someone just ran over my dog.
So the director's name is Laurence Laurence? Just noticed this at 6.31 😂
Laurence Lorenz, perfect name for a pretentious 50s drama director
"It's..... complicated."
“Would that it were”
The terms get to me, every time: importune, ruefulness, mirthlessness. When was the last time you heard these words?
Emily Beecham as Deirdre.
The Coens cast deep.
How do you know of her? Curious what you mean cast deep? (She seems fantastic so just wondering)
I have this stupid wave in front of my hair, and I don't know how to get rid of it
I think Fiennes may have been channeling Laurence Olivier, who as a director could go from "Dear boy" to F-bombs in seconds flat.
I wonder too if the Coens let these two go on for as long as they could stretch it. Like Channing Tatum's "No Dames" bit: he kept gaying it up more and they let him go ahead
Underrated movie. This scene and the two characters especially.
This movie was awesome!
Epic eyeroll
An underrated Cohen. As is The Man Who Wasn’t There
The thumbnail looks like it was generated by AI. It’s super weird.
The actress look like Lucille Ball.
@3:02 looked at the camera. Blown take.
The whole movie should have honestly just been about Hobie. Every scene he wasn't involved in was painfully average, especially for Coen standards
Bang on
I thought the bit about George Clooney discussing political theory with all those old marxists was pretty fun
yes, this scene is brilliant- great - the rest is just a vanity project that glosses over how the Studio fixer worked IRL.But Hobie in Hollywood- YES
The Cohen brothers have many films better than Hail Caesar but not nearly as fun.
Even in the trailer . . .
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Would that it twere so simple
He was literally the only entertaining aspect of this film.
Rueful, rueful…
This is the only movie of the Coen brothers that I dislike, quite a disappointment.
Ladykillers is a favorite of yours?
When you were born your mother said "stick it back in it ain't done cooking yet."
If you liked Intolerable Cruelty well I will call you a liar sir!