Identifying and Evangelizing the Zionists
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- If we are the true Jews and the true Israel of God gathered in Christ, then who are the Jews in modern Israel and who gathered them there - and how do we evangelize them?
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06/27/21 - Michael Sullivan - Berean Bible Church - www.bereanbible... - Message 1070
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Thank you for this message - excellent presentation.
Thanks Jeff - to God be all the glory!
@@michaelsullivan6868 Your teaching is such a blessing. Thank you.
This is a great follow-up to David Curtis's National Israel and Bible prophecy which was one of the most alarming and important messages of the day. I don't know if anyone's familiar with the book by Arthur Koestler, The 13th Tribe, but in that book he goes into detailed history of the Jews and the khazars.
If anyone needs to repent it's the modern Christian leadership and what they teach about the Jews.
I'm so happy you see it as a good "follow-up" to Pastor Curtis's series on Zionism - that was my goal. And you are correct this series should be shouted from the rooftops in our day. And yes, I have that great book too!
Amazing!
Thanks Geraldine - to God be all the glory!
I agree with this pastor so much. There are things that the Holy Spirit told me were a “chew the meat spit out the bone” and this man uses the word to confirm the Holy Spirit
God bless him
So fascinating I wish this was longer!
If they aren’t Jews let’s stop calling them that. I refer to them as KTs Khazarian Talmudist
Agree.
The passage that tovia quoted doesn't mean what he said it does. He didnt quote it properly either.
“Demon’s” work well in Describing their Character and Action’s.
Agree
They're jews.
Every land promise to Israel was fulfilled in the time of Joshua… 21:[43] So the Lord gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their ancestors, and they took possession of it and settled there. [45] Not one of all the Lord's good promises to Israel failed; every one was fulfilled.
Not true
@@jitihadaharuna9448lol “not true.” Then proceeds to not even debate.
Jesus told the people that the true is the ones who believes in Christ, not ones who are blood line jews of the flesh. Jesus said those who are born of the flesh is flesh, and who are born of the spirit is spirit. He explained just you because borned a Jew of the flesh doesn't mean you are saved because of Abraham being the father of the flesh race. It has to do with spirit, not the flesh.
Amen
gal.3.28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
its not that important who your parents are but it is very important who you are.
bless Yah and He will bless you.
What is a worked based salvation? I couldn't save myself if my soul depended on (pun intended).
Thank you sir! Brave , not a lot of people will say this. Hope this clip and channel stays up
Yes! And so far it still is, yay!
My truth - the second coming is our death when we will see the Messiah
We will never know when it will come which means we don’t need to cause a genocide to encourage Jesus to return.
If there is a second coming, 💯 I will die from earth that day. Praise God!!!!
If the Dome of the Rock is "The Abomination of Desolation", why have those in Judea not fled to the mountains long ago?
Jesus did come in the first century ... in judgment of Jerusalem by the Romans. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. Jesus said it would happen in Matthew 23 and 24. He came in judgment, not the 2nd coming which is still in the future.
@bob...Please give verses in the OT that speak of 70ad judgment and the ones for 2-100000 yrs later🤣
If the identity of Ashkenazi Jews are compromised, that still leaves the Sephardic Jews and the Mizrahim. All three have populated the land of Israel.
for more background on the federal reserve, check out the book The Creature from Jekyll Island.
Ezra and Nehemiah tell exactly what happened..the Nethenims slipped in and took over liturgical duties because the priests got lazy..then they worked themselves into being priests and then being the "bankers"..later becoming known as the scribes and Pharisees
I wouldn't identify myself as a Preterist but I'm fine with good Biblical interpretation and study of history, so I really appreciated David Curtis's previous message and this one too. I'm also not American but I'm fine with American Patriot Biblical Christians, but how can a Biblical and U.S. "America First" Middle East policy truly bring Messianic PEACE?
Hi Danny, 1). Biblical/Full Preterist foreign policy - a Christian Preterist foreign policy is superior to Premillennial or Evangelical Zionism's because they WANT war in the Middle East to usher in a "rapture" for them - both doctrines being totally unbiblical. So obviously "peace" is not the Evangelical Zionists ultimate goal in the Middle East. However, a Full Preterist foreign policy would not show favoritism to Israel as "God's chosen people" and demonstrate who true Israel is and where true messianic peace comes from -- Jesus and His gospel preached through the Church (the "Israel of God" or "New Jerusalem") (Rev. 22:17). This and that Armageddon or Gog and Magog was a battle fought long ago so there is no need for all three of these systems (Israeli Zionism, Islam and Premillennial Zionism) to keep trying to SELF-FULFILL it.
2). Patriot Christian Party - We love President Trump, but he has a blind side when it comes to Israel and Zionism. He loves to cut foreign aid to other countries in order to have an "America first" agenda, but then totally contradicts this when it comes to Israel. We give Israel billions every year because so many confused Christians here think they are somehow a fulfillment of bible prophecy and are still "God's chosen people." We need to STOP funding the "endless wars" in the Middle East when it comes to Islamic civil wars, AND we need to stop defending Israel's theft of land - because somehow they are "special." They simply are not and they need to be confronted with their un-ethical behavior just like any other nation. Hope that helps.
Singer is putting out anti Christian videos almost daily now.
Very true
Nailed it. I had to share
The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Prophecy has not ceased. Prophecy in part has ceased. Prophecy also is not prediction of future events. There may be an element to future predictions in them, but if they don't point to Jesus, then they aren't called prophecy.
Prophecy is saying what you hear and see God doing. "You can all prophecy". Unless you don't believe that. Then you won't.
Excellent presentation. Thanks Mike!
Thanks Julie - to God be all the glory!
the man of sin, son of perdition is satan, the devil, dragon, serpent. he will never become flesh, he appears as a supernatural being. when he takes on the role of thee antiChrist he will appear as the lamb slain but speak as a dragon because he is the dragon.
Mike is my favourite speaker ..
Ben Abraham from India
amen !
lordship judaizers abound, reject them
I read where it said also that this nation will never rise up again , God would put it down to the ground. it would never be as it was before.
Awesome job! Thank you
Thanks A Jarrett - to God be all the glory!
Outstanding!
ur right. and im muslim.
This church claims that Jesus already returned. Have you guys ever read Matthew 24? The Bible says the whole earth will see Him. Clearly not a secret return.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
amen.
every knee shall bow and tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. the beast and false prophet destroyed because everyone will know exactly who Christ is..
I am so glad I watched this to the end!
FYI. The Palestinians do accept Jesus (Yeshua)as the Messiah (The messenger of the God)
Messenger is a Muslim term.Many Palestinians are christians and they believe in the Messiah as God in flesh.
@@lowgeez1definitely an important distinction. Two different things (messiah and messenger)
While we work he plays. Lol Peter mskes me laugh. 9PM hes too busy strolling through the lillies, to notice any of us. Lol
Excellent message!
Whew talk about eating the meat and spitting out the bones!!! Yikes! Very little meat…
Where did the white skin come from ❤?????
Noah's son, Japhet. There were people of all colors just like today. There is nothing new under the sun. Those white people in Israel are not Jews
Khazaria, today's Ukraine.
@@lowgeez1 Very funny 😂😂😂
@@denisegarchow1405 Yeah Denise, right 🤣🤣🤣
@@Promqueen23 you think?to me it's very telling that so many people are deceived by lies that are so obvious.
But that's the fallen world we live in.
Yah bless.
such a rich message, blessed by it
Please let us know what you think about “The Timeline Deception” and part two,
on UA-cam by “Exploring Tartaria”, Seems this fits a better view in the times we are in now .
AD 70 is NOT within the 10th Jubilee. It ended in 36AD. James Ussher proved this empirically in his work Annals.
The white people are gentiles of all gentle nations ❤you can see that true jews where curse of God is done with ,you can see the black are coming back to power of God
Nice channel
At 40 minutes you pull a "slight of hand" by saying "ALL Israel" and then in your paranthesis you define "All Israel" as (the believing remnant elect Jews AND believing elect Gentiles) whereas Paul himself does not say define "All Israel" as YOU do. Where does Paul define "All Israel" as YOU do? He doesn't. "All Israel" means "All Israel", it does not mean "Jews and Gentiles". Y'all (I've heard y'all say this many a time) also use "slight of hand" by using a non biblical term, i.e. "spiritual Israel".. Where's THAT in Scripture? It isn't! I KNOW that when Paul speaks of "true Jews" he says those are the "Jews" who are not only circumcised in the flesh but in the heart as well. THEYb are the TRUEn Israeln of God, not the ones going around glorying in the flesh. The Gentile was not "glorying in the flesh" for he had NOTHING, no Covenant with God; the Gentile is EXCLUDED from the PICTURE which is being painted by Paul in his EXHORTATION to the Jew.
Abraham was NOT A Jew nor did he belong to Israel; he is the Father, not of "all Israel" but of "all believers" whether Jew OR Gentile. Gentile believers do not become "spiritual Israel" when they believe in Christ; BOTH they AND believing Jews BECOME "sons of God" in Christ. What God is doing NOW with Jews and Gentiles, that is, making a "new man in Christ" where NEITHER is superior nor inferior to the other, does not negate the PROMISES made to Abraham that his "seed", i.e. Isaac, Jacob, 12b Tribes, would be given a Land, on Earth, to dwell in forever. I agree that theseb so called "Jews" in the State of Israel are not God's People, however, when Christ RETURNS he will RULE on Earth, not from New York, nor from Rome, nor from Buenos Aires, nor from Canberra, but from Jerusalem. Why is Jesus called the "Lion of the Tribe of Judah" instead of the "Lion of the Tribes of all Nations"?
yeah, I know exactly where you're coming from. I was taught your view all of my life, so I use to think that way also. But it was the clear time statements in the Bible EVERYWHERE that always made me feel like something was wrong. One day, out of curiosity, I decided to google "Did Christ Return In The First Century?". One of David's sermons caught my attention and it was then that I found out this view existed. After I went through Pastor David's COMPLETE teaching on this view, I felt like I found what I was looking for. Preterism is the best view that completely keeps the bible in context without having to make weird spins and totally ignore hermeneutic principles, as all these other views do. it is the only view that shuts up all the non-believing critics. Yeah, I noticed your objections, and let me just say, if you go to this church's website and go through their teachings on this, you will get all those objections answered. Yup, this view has definitely given me peace of mind. Thank you, Jesus!!
@@ADOYork- Here is the Problem. The Scriptures, Jesus, nor any Apostle, ever taught that Christ would return "in that Generation". Also, when they do teach about his return, it is a LITERAL return, as the LANGUAGE indicates.
Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Is there anything remotely "symbolic" or "spiritual" or "invisible" or "figurative' about the LANGUAGE being used? It appears to me that no Preterist "hermeneutics" in the World would be able to help anyone.
The Historical facts are that the Nation of Israel was PROMISED a Land, a Kingdom, and a King. The O.T. is replete with that Historical account dealing with a God who had a RELATIONSHIP with a People and who promised them, based on their CONFORMITY to His Law, a physical Land, a physical Kingdom, and a physical King. Again, no Preterist "hermeneutics" can change the LANGUAGE.
Isa 9:6 For unto US (Israel) a child is born, unto US (Israel) a son is given: and the GOVERNMENT shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called wonderful, Counsellor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his GOVERNMENT and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his KINGDOM, to order it, and to establish it with JUDGMENT and with JUSTICE from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD (Yahweh) of hosts will perform this.
Isa 9:8 The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon ISRAEL.
Isa 9:9 And all the PEOPLE shall know, even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,
The Language used is not "Figurative" nor "Symbolic" but simply LITERAL. No amount of Preterist "hermeneutics" can CHANGE IT.
I do not know in what "camp" you were in before you DISCOVERED "Preterism", but I suspect it was in the newly founded, 19th Century, "Dispensational" Camp of Darby and Scofield, with its newly DISCOVERED "Futurist" view.
Jesus spoke about "things to come" for the Generation he was in ,i.e., "THIS" Generation. Paul had no Prophecy about "THIS" Generation other than that they were STUBBORN and that God's anger, as Jesus had said, was upon them. John wrote NOTHING, neither "Symbolically" nor "Historically" nor "Futuristically" about "THIS" Generation. The fall of Jerusalem was PAST when John wrote. The Book of Revelation is about things which "had been", which "were", and which "would come", with regards to ALL of God's People and the RULING Roman Empire. John's concern is with the Saints of God, both Jews and Gentiles, and what THEY will have to ENDURE with respect to the Roman Empire, the "Beast", and its Religious "Church State", UNTIL the return of Christ to Earth.
All "Roads" DO lead to Rome, except for the "Preterist" and "Futurist" views which avoid the "Elephant in the Room" spoken of by John, i.e. the Roman Papacy, and its allowed RAMPAGINGS for Centuries, which will be put to a halt, AT CHRIST'S Literal RETURN to a LITERAL Earth.
Matt 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Matt 6:10 Thy KINGDOM COME. Thy will be done IN EARTH as it is in heaven.
Matt 6:11 Give us this day our DAILY BREAD.
Matt 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
No Preterist "Hermeneutics" can CHANGE what the Lord Jesus told his People, the Children of Israel, to PRAY for as their EARTHLY needs, as above. You cannot "Spiritualize" away the things which do not "make you feel good".
@paulnavarro3822 too much to respond to. I'll just answer your first point. Jesus did return the same way. He came on the clouds and this was recorded by Josephus, Tacitus, Jewish and Greek sources and historians. It was physical. But like the Jews of that time, you are waiting for a physical reign on earth. But Christ says His kingdom is not of this world.
The new heavens and earth is the covenant Church.
Like the other guy said, there are answers to your objections. Look into it. You have a responsibility to. Because the time statements and 70AD destruction of Jerusalem make this the only plausible view.
@@maxINaus Simple reply: Paul NEVER said anything about the Body of Christ, i.e., an living organism, being called "Spiritual Israel". I can read, and it just ain't there brother!
Simple reply: There is no Historical evidence that "All the World" SAW Jesus himself, in the Heavens, as he described, i.e., "...like lightning, which traverses the heavens, and can be SEEN from the East to the West."
Y'all, Preterists from all Camps, also completely ignore the prophecies of Isaiah which describe a Ruler, a Governor, who will literally reign ON EARTH OVER THE NATIONS. The descriptions of "turn their spears into pruning hooks", "lamb laying with the wolf", "deserts blooming", "child playing with the adder", "no more tears", "no more death", "child leading the lion", " healing the nations", etc., can only be taken literally, otherwise they are LIES.
The Jews, Daniels People, were given 70 "weeks" to get their stuff together UNTIL Messiah. Jesus never said the Kingdom was not physical as y'all assume. He said it did not come "with observation", or it's beginning was going to be "hidden" from the eyes of unbelievers, i.e., the "mustard seed" parable. Christ FIRST had to be "planted in the ground", i.e., killed and buried.
The number of Citizens of the Kingdom, first the Jews, then the Gentiles, has been growing ever since. This number will continue to grow UNTIL God the Father sends His Son back to Earth, as the Apostle Peter told his Jewish listeners after Pentecost.
But they most refused to REPENT and to believe that Jesus was God's Anointed One, the Messiah, the Son of God. So Yahweh God placed them in "unbelief status" just like the Gentiles.
Paul tells us that "some were cut off" but that they were not "cast away". God STILL recognizes two UNBELIEVING entities in this world, as Paul says, "the Jew AND the Gentiles".
The promises made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, were UNCONDITIONAL, as well as the promise made to David about having a "son" who would sit on his Throne, ON EARTH (David never had a throne in Heaven as some suppose), FOREVER.
Heaven is not our Home, Earth is our Home, which is why Christ will physically RETURN, in the air (Parousia, Appearance, Apocalypse) and be SEEN by all nations around the Globe.
Y'all are correct that our Lord spoke about the coming desolations on "that generation" of Jews, who had killed and rejected Messiah. God's wrath came down on "that generation", but God's UNCONDITIONAL promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and to David, of a "seed", a Man who would RULE, as Adam had been created to do, over all of the Earth, was not nullified by Israel's disobedience. It merely gave cause for God to have Grace toward the Gentiles. If God wanted to wait two thousand years, or four, or six, or whenever, until he decides to have His Son come back to Earth, that's His Sovereign call.
I know where he will descend, and it ain't New York, nor Rio de Janiero, nor Tokyo, nor Moscow, nor any other place other than to the New Jerusalem. Why New Jerusalem? Or are you going to wave your "spiritual wand" and NULLIFY what Scripture says?
We've been grafted into true Israel.
This is a topic that is even more important after recent events at the end of 2023 but is such a poor presentation that it is nearly useless.
Has anyone taken the time to lay out the case more methodically in an article or book?
I suggest that you take the time to lay out the case more methodically in an article or book.
@@Anglo-SaxonGhost Yes, If done well with clear documentation it could be the end of the Darby/Schofield Dispensational/Jesus is coming soon fiasco that has derailed the body of Christ
There must still be Jews today for the simple reason that the remnant to be saved as Paul argues should be saved even in our day.
Paul argued for the remnant that were being saved in HIS time during the first century. A few years later, all of the judgments reigned down on Israel in AD70 - the time of the end-ending their old covenant ways, lineage, temple, etc. and brought in the new covenant. People who call themselves "Jews" today, are religious converts from other nations over the centuries. None of them have any connection to the ancient Hebrews or Abraham.
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