The fact that an animated G-film based on PAW Patrol had a better portrayal of a panic attack than a supposedly "adult" animated series has me snickering. 🤭
@@maxleon61702 Yeah! What's next, is PAW Patrol: The Mighty Movie gonna be a better superhero film than Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania? (Edit/Update: It was!)
Fun fact, someone actually tried the "Snap Out Of It" trope on me. Because I was already so freaked out, I slapped them back, harder. I wound up apologizing profusely, but they understood completely, saying that they absolutely deserved it.
Someone did that with me once, because they took my panic attack as me disrespecting them. It worked even less than you'd expect, since I also have PTSD from physical abuse, and a defense mechanism kicked in, leading to them laying on the floor, a few seconds later, with a huge bloody gash across their face. I honestly don't remember what happened, just that one second I was sitting on a chair, struggling to breathe, and the next I was standing over them, as they held their bleeding face and just... whimpered. They weren't mad at me or anything, just avoided me for a while, probably because they thought I was mad. Eventually, we got back to talking, and went for ice cream together. Sufficed to say, they learned their lesson. Don't slap someone who's freaking out, for both their and your own good.
I was thinking about that too, glad someone mentioned it! It was a quick moment but the "why would that calm me down" showed how counter productive a slap would be for someone in a panic. Leo said "I was calming you down" with so confidence, he fr thought that as seen on TV slap would work
@@durratulaishah3703a recurring problem in all versions of tmnt is that they are supposed to be a family and a team. And in 2012 this problem is more noticeable, they treat each other more like a couple of friends having a good time.
@@nicolpineda8632 also, I'm actually glad the dynamic between the brothers in Rottmnt and the newest movie improved ALOT especially dynamic between Leo and Mikey
Fun fact about the Paw Patrol one, Chase was originally going to have a nightmare where he has to do a similar save to the one with the rollercoaster, starts using the zip line but it fails and Chase ends up falling from the building height to the street Mufasa style. It gets worse, he doesn't just hit the road, he hits an oncoming car calling back to what would have happened to him if Ryder wasn't there when he was a stray. That could have traumatized all the kids.
The two reasons they didn’t do this is because the audience already knows about Chase’s fear of the City and the fact it was a little dark for younger audiences.
Well there’s definitely a difference between scaring kids and traumatizing kids, you can be scared without being traumatized although in this case, yeah that might’ve been just a tad too dark
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is the kind of animated stories that the industry should invest more. It’s a movie for everyone. It has fun moments that the children can have fun, but also has mature and deep themes than the adults can get behind. Velma is what we should NOT have more often in the animation industry. That show is a spit in the face to Scooby-Doo and to animation in general.
While I agree that Velma is not the direction animation should be going, but the world still needs adult animation. Not the shows where violence and sex are the whole point of it, but where adult issues can take front and center. Like the later parts of Moral Orel (especially the episode exploring the trama of Moralton’s women), all of Tuca and Berdie, and while it might be over stated, Bojack Horseman
@@FatCatSnuggles agreed. also while there is plenty animations made for adults I think as a whole it’s mostly associated with children’s films and while that isn’t exactly a “bad” thing I feel like it makes a lot of people brush off animation
The Owl House clip at 10:27 is interesting. There's a few seconds cut out , but Hunter runs away after Eda reaches her hand out to him. Eda herself has dealt with panic attacks and knew to give him space after a traumatic event. Except when Eda reaches out a hand that's supposed to ground Hunter, she unknowingly triggers him because of his history with physical abuse. It's subtle, but shows that there's no one size fits all solution to dealing with a panic attack. And a few episodes later, he finds a method that does work to calm him down.
@@bungiecrimes7247 yeah s1 is a bit goofy and lighthearted (for the most part) since it's still establishing its characters and the world, but they really upped the horror and seriousness in s2 once the real story gets going
I don't even know that I'd call the Wreck-It Ralph scene a panic attack. That's just primal fear, problem solving and comedy. Felix's reaction is entirely on the level of the situation he's in. The danger is completely real, not imagined or perceived.
That’s a good point. One detail the tone of most of those movie’s scenes successfully buried in my mind is that if they die outside their game they don’t regenerate. Raplh, calhoon, felix, and turbo are in actual critical danger as long as they remain in sugar rush. The death traps are contoonish candy and in a video game yes. But they are deadly to these characters. It makes you remember that ralph actually really put his life on the line to get that medal in hero’s duty as well.
I agree. I think it’s a great and funny scene and has nothing to do with a panic attack. Everyone would panic in a life or death scenario and I think it’s not only in character but also very reasonable of her to try and knock him out. She’s a tough, cold woman, of course she’s not gonna be gentle here. What would make sense to her is knocking him out. Both of them are panicking in their own way as they’re facing death. So yeah I agree. I don’t think Felix is having a panic attack here.
I had a few panic attacks. If I had been slapped, I think my "fight" response would have kicked in and I probably would have hit back as an instinctive response. I'm not comparing humans to dogs, but if a dog was panicking, you wouldn't hit the dog. So don't hit people!
Exactly. You made me remember that one time I had the worst panic attack ever back in my early childhood. And I actually had a fight response when a girl tried comforting me in the middle of it by simply hugging me. I hit her in responce. I felt horrible about it ever since, even though I immediately apologized and she was understanding and forgave me right away, but at least I now kinda see where this nonsensical reaction of mine came from. I never faught since and refuse to after what had happened, but if someone actually hit or slapped me during a panic attack, I can say with 90% certainty I would start fighting for my life and that would be kinda justified imo.
In older movies, cartoons and tv shows, where a character had a panic attack or was upset, they were slapped in the face and it was often for comedy or seen as okay to do that. It’s upsetting.
@@matthewdilday7918 I always found it funny! Plus it didn't glorify it, it's just comedy and jokes, and most kids know it's not ok to slap anyone. (Or that's how I see it anyways)
That becuase people keep saying to their self that "oh, these people are adult. They can handle panic more then kids do...." when in reality, everybody need help if they got the panic attack. Cartoon always treat panic attack like it just a slapstick joke but if you got the panic attack, dont you also want someone to help you?
i kinda hate how depression and anxiety are the only two forms of mental issues that are accepted to talk about. in fact not only okay - but people almost want to have anxiety - to be a victims. they glorify anxiety i feel. but other disorders - and celebs that have them or movie characters - it's still such a stigma. i hate this world edit: interesting how sharing this, it's apparently an open invitation for people to share all sorts of things 😳
Not too familiar with what conditions and such there are, but the fetishization of depression and anxiety is definitely a thing. Mind you how literally everyone jokes about being depressed all the time, and occasionally it will almost come off as like a badge of pride. I occasionally had instances before where I was like "Man, I sure wish I was depressed. I'd be a much more interesting character" as if it was like a desirable trait that everyone should strive to have
@@DestinySpider yeah exactly. And then if one day you get actual legit depression, you release this is not a place anyone should strive to be. It’s a horrible illness.
@@DestinySpider Yeah, that's definitely a thing, but also sometimes when people want something bad to happen to them then it's an indication that there's already a mental/psychological problem in their life (not as bad as real depression, but it can be a symptom of something else, "serious" or not)
@@evantaylor4796 that's such an horrible thing to say. I don't know how you're doing in life, but I hope you talk to someone about this, because the thing you just wrote is defenetly not it. Wish for you better
So are you telling me FREAKING Paw Patrol had a better portrayal of panic attacks than Velma?! A preschool animated show had a better portrayal than an ADULT animated series?!!! Like were not even talking about TV-Y7 shows like Avatar, we are talking about a show who's target audience is below the age of 6!
Lets be honest, Paw Patrol is superior to Velma in every concivable way, not just because that is a very low bar to jump, but because Paw Patrol actualy respects it's target audience, even though it's a preschool show.
Yeah the show actually has constant characterization for the dogs (I forget the trash one's names but like with his fear of water) Too bad it seems to fall into the hole of,show must have new gimmicks and we will never go back to the old ones to make toys
When Naruto hyperventilated, my world was changed. That seems intense, but that show meant a lot to a lot of people, and it was just so sudden. We've seen him scream and cry, and break down before, but that was just...so real. So bluntly underdramatic for Naruto, the show and the character. And yet it hit so hard.
Same!! I love Naruto and the scene make me like it so much more, the pain he went through with sasuke it made so much sense, he couldn’t take the stress…the animation was also incredible
Y el ataque de pánico de Kawaki también es maravillosa, especialmente en la que sintió que por su culpa Naruto moriría. Él estaba mal, no sabía que hacer y su respiración era agitada estaba a punto de rendirse y lo único que lo calmó fué el recuerdo de su padre adoptivo Naruto, las palabras y el abrazo que recordaba que funcionó la primera vez.
My older sis has panic attacks brought on by a mix of agoraphobia and kenophobia. I've had to help her through quite a few panic episodes, not all of which I've handled correctly unfortunately, but I know what it's like from a secondhand perspective. Seeing media handle panic attacks correctly, not berating the characters for feeling scared and acting like a slap on the face or yelling at them will solve things, is so, so important.
There’s a scene in the first episode of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(2012) where Mikey encounters a Krang for the first time and starts having a panic attack. They did do the slap thing but Mikey just had the right response of going WHY WOULD THAT CALM ME DOWN?! But his brothers don’t really help him emotionally after that.
Look, I love TMNT. I've been in the fandom for almost 2 years now, and TMNT 2012 is my favorite version. However, I don't think what Mikey had was really a panic attack. It was likely just severe anxiety. Panic attacks hinder your ability to function properly, and can make you feel like you are literally dying. I don't think that's what Mikey was experiencing, considering he was still able to explain the situation the best he could.
@@matildalitsey143 I just don't think Americans are happy. Why is it that poorest regions in Africa has a higher coefficient of happy people despite their situation yet USA has such negativity all the time? I really want to cut off The West's internet.
I was honestly surprised to not see Arcane being mentioned here. Especially with the panic attack that Jinx went through at the very last scene of the show was something that impressed me greatly. Not only did it have an absolutely phenomenal visualization, but it also showed how much it can escalate if you say the wrong things to the victim, as Vi did there. The scene went absolutely wild once the panic attack escalated, and it did a really great job at putting the audience in Jinx's shoes, with everything moving extremely rapidly, and things only stopping once she snaps out of it, and realizes what she's done. There were many scenes before, that depicted her having a panic attack, but that is the one that stuck with me the most. The show deals with Jinx's mental issues extremely well, and it really deserves more attention.
Yes! Arcane is phenomenal in every way and every moment. Done so, so well. But for an average person (as in, not traumatized and likely sociopathic like Jinx, or with her volume of isses...) a panic attack not mentioned here that stuck out to me was Fluttershy's in Hurricane Fluttershy. Her intense anxiety and the way it visualized every eye on her with her chest heaving up and down and her sobbing after. Broke my heart
The thing I appreciated most about the scene in Puss in Boots was the demonstration of pressure therapy from a service dog. Puss in boots was such a hugely popular movie and I don't doubt people may be more educated now about what service dogs provide to people with anxiety--it is not uncommon to have a panic attack in a public place and have to lay down on the ground where you are (most people, me included, can pass out/collapse during panic/anxiety attacks so it can be dangerous to run around looking for a secluded place to calm down.) Education is important so people understand why they might see something like that in public, and less chance of bystanders trying to remove or interrupt the service dog. When I watched that scene, I felt so known and understood in that moment. To elaborate, pressure therapy works because pressure makes you conscious of breathing and helps slow heart rate. It's also used to help people with heart conditions stabilize their blood pressure. It's the same reason weighted blankets can help people with anxiety sleep.
It irks me how quickly people (especially on Twitter) got tired of this new way to move forward with depicting mental issues in mainstream media. For years we get unrealistic and exaggerated depictions that harms how the public perceives mental illness, and now that recent animated movies are being more accurate and nuanced about it, people started... getting tired of it? I don't get it.
@@catbatrat1760 Like in they get annoyed how it's misrepresented, then when they get what they want which is proper representation they still complain.
That's kinda how I feel about ppl dumping on the generational trauma trope in new animated movies. Like it's been in what, 3 mainstream movies? At least the explicit message of it being in an animated movie is present and a current theme, and ppl are tired of it and it's overdone and boring?? What??
KInd of reminds me of how by the time Welcome Home came around, the lost media community had gotten TIRED of lost episode creepypastas & just want to steer away from any & all creepypasta-like things.
As someone who LOVES Wreck-it-Ralph, and who has frequent panic attacks, I think the scene is handled well, but isn't perfect. It's supposed to be silly, but if Felix was never slapped, it would have never set up for them to escape the quick sand. The slap was needed, because when Felix was panicking, no other "funny" moment could happen. Although I don't like that he automatically calms down, I think this deserves A tier.
I will say Calhoun’s reaction is expected, considering her game genre. The slap is a sort of action movie cliche and she’s an action/horror/sci fi protagonist. Hence “slap someone and tell them to get a grip” is probably programmed into her subconsciously.
Personally, I didn’t have a problem with it. The slap made sense for her character, and it wasn’t really the slap that calmed him down. It was the instant realization that they had a way out. The problem he was freaking out over was removed. At least that’s how I took it. Wasn’t perfect, but I’ve personally had “Oh.” moments where I just kinda stopped because the “threat” was removed. Or never existed in the first place in a notable event involving what I thought was a spider 😂
The scene with Rocket and Thor didn't work though, Thor runs as soon as he can. Just because he got quiet after the slap doesn't mean "the slap worked", Thor was in shock and clammed up, which is something most people would do in that scenario. I would argue the scene shows that the response Rocket had doesn't work imo
I agree cause as soon as rocket left Thor's anxiety rose up and strait ran with his mighty tail between his legs. It's only when interacting with his mother is when he ended up getting some closure.
@@SnazzyjazzBro Hold up... Thor has a mother??? Sorry if that had nothing to do with what you said, I never watched any of the Marvel Endgame movies so this scene (and possibly many others since... it's a movie) was unknown to me.
@@dewolf123 Oh. Yeah that probably explains why I never heard of Thor's mom, especially since I wasn't a big enough Marvel Thor fan to watch that (I think I only saw the first one, but that was like what? In the early 2010's probably?).
hunter from owl house exemplifies a subtle yet deep-rooted panic attack ,,, he does it so well because of his realization of something he’s been so convinced of his entire life
I'm a younger person who tends to be vulnerable to panic attacks. I have a very visual mind, so my description of one is kinda odd. I wrote about it one time. It went like this: "He could feel his mind slip into monochrome tones." How I feel right before an attack is basically, disconnected. "Everything began to return in a violent wave of bright colors. His breathing picked up immediately, and his chest beat like a steel drum. A tickling feeling went up his spine and into his brain and neck. His face flet like it was painlessly melting into warm milk. That same milk would drip out of his eyes any moment now." I often refer to other people as "It" in this writing, because for me it feels hard to identify anything and anyone while having an attack. I don't know why I decided to comment this.
You seem to describe panic with dissociation. It's a trauma response but can happen for other reasons. Your brain is trying to be "helpful" by removing you mentally from the situation as much as it can in order to get you through it. However dissociation itself can be unnerving (especially in recollection which can be various levels of hazy) and make you act and/or think in ways you normally wouldn't. Speak to a professional about it if you can; otherwise try to take solace in the moments that this happens that it is just a brain misfire that won't hurt you physically and will pass.
10:80 this is a scene from The Owl House, and I was waiting until the video was over to mention this moment to see if it would bring it up first. But since it didn’t brief over it, I will :) basically, the character Hunter is having a panic attack after experiencing a traumatic experience. The younger characters rush forward to comfort him, but the oldest there holds them back, telling them to give him space. He is unable to immediately communicate with them and throws off his cape, which had direct ties to the trauma he had experienced. He runs out of the house and the other characters call him but don’t follow, except for his bird. It is implied but not shown on screen he receives comfort from his bird (it’s a magic show, so the bird can communicate telepathically lol). Later in the series, Hunter nearly experiences another panic attack, but is told by another character to breath. They remove themselves from the situation and work on a breathing exercise together quietly, which breaks him out of his panic. Out of all panic attack scenes in kids shows, these were extremely accurately depicted and I would definitely recommend giving the show a watch :)
Exactly! The breathing method they show actually works, too. Nothing worked for me, but then when i watched that scene I decided to use it next time I have a panic attack, and it worked!
Can we also talk about how absolutely INTENSE that scene was in Puss and Boots though? I swear I almost had a panic attack from the sheer stress I could feel from him.
As someone who had a panic attack on one of my closest friend's birthday 2 days ago, let me tell you, as much as people tried calming me down, the situation escalated so bad when a video I was making for the birthday person went all sorts of wrong, I had been working on it for 2 weeks, and it has caused me so much stress. Because the birthday friend was looking at the projector and had their back turned, they did not see my state and instead jokingly said comments like how bad we are at this and that we're such bad planners. My friend is a jokester and was trying to lighten the mood, but they were utterly clueless to the series of visible signs of my sheer panic. I just broke down crying in front of everyone and ran into the kitchen in another friend's lap, repeatedly saying loudly, "I can't take it anymore!" It took the friend helping me with the video, the birthday person, and the friend I was crying on their lap to get me to calm down. After that, I was just a mess and I still haven't contacted anyone from the party because I'm still ashamed and embarrassed. I have a strong feeling that I really upset the birthday friend because they really care about me, and that was the first time I broke down on what was supposed to be a day to celebrate and have a good time, but instead, I bit off more than I could chew and ended up in a terrible state. I really messed up. I hate panic attacks so much :(
Please call them. Like you say, they care about you! Sometimes it just happens but the important thing is if you're okay now, and that you know your friends aren't going to blame you for something you can't really control.
@@thekingofdoges Yes call them because as you said probably already forgave her but my god what a incredible profile picture you have! It's a royal doge!
I know after the Spider-Verse short comes out, all of the internet will go "SO COOL THAT IT WAS INFLUENCED BY SPIDER-VERSE!" when any character has anything close to anxiety in animation.
@@Pinkkittie5006 Notice how at the start of the sentence he says _"after_ the Spider-Verse short comes out." The short isn't out yet, but we know what its going to be about.
The PAW patrol scene was 1000% my acrophobia summarized in a moment. The line where you said that someone shouldn't force him to continue or shout at him really hit hard. I have extremely bad acrophobia, but nonetheless, I made the dubious choice at summer camp to attempt a rope course. This was several years ago. Of course, the moment I found out that the end of the ropes course was a zipline, I freaked out and demanded that I get off the course. (There were actually other ways to get off the course outside of the zipline.) For some reason, the guide wasn't the most receptive or understanding of this fear and spent 20 minutes trying to force me to go on the zipline and caused me to have an emotional breakdown. (Crying, shaking, curling up, etc.) Eventually, they let me climb down, but I got the feeling they were already really annoyed with me.
Same went for me at Splash Mountain at Disney World once, I could relate to Chase. I mean, I’m not THAT afraid of heights, but when I heard Splash Mountain was gonna close permanently I had to go ride it as much as possible, making sure I don’t have any evacuations. We got stopped before the final drop, the lights came on and I began to have a panic attack just like Chase did. I’ve been anxious about the evacuations since I knew it was an imminent goodbye to my childhood mountain ride (I’ve still got other fav’s don’t worry, and I do love Princess and the Frog tho, just gonna need time to process for the Tiana retheme) but I always knew it was one of a kind for me. I was able to ride over and over again after that one evacuation day. So, during that part where I was stuck near the final drop, I was definitely in Chase’s position. My heart was racing and my breath ran out but the cast members were genuine and very helpful.
I’m gonna give a stupid example but it’s important: In Rio 2, Roberto (yes, Bruno Mars’ character) is a character who has PTSD and he has panic attacks in the film, he even goes as far to start screaming stuff (repeating what he has said during the traumatic event as he relived it) to himself and not being able to listen to anyone. And my biggest issue with with that is that it’s mostly played up for laughs bc “haha smooth and suave character is actually a mess” and it does the stupid “snap out of it” trope. As far as I’m concerned (as someone with panic attacks), Roberto is a good example of someone with PTSD and panic attacks but the way it’s handled is awful.
When I think of a panic attack scene that's comical without being harmful, Bocchi the Rock comes to mind. We actually see what's going on in Bocchi's head and it's hilarious. And her friends just treat it as a normal thing, which is also really funny but super supportive at the same time. Now that I think about, a lot of anxiety/panic attacks happen throughout the show.
4:22 that reminds me of the scene form the 2012 TMNT For those who don’t know the scene goes a bit like this Mikey: “LISTEN TO ME THERE WAS A BRAIN THING!” (Leo slaps Mikey) Leo: “Better?” Mikey: “NO, WHY WOULD THAT MAKE ME FEEL BETTER!”
The Owl House has another panic attack scene (also with Hunter) and it was handled SO WELL, at least for me. I have had multiple panic and anxiety attacks too (and probably will have more) and the way it was handled in the show was pretty much how I deal with them. Hunter started to have a panic attack, and another character (Gus) sat with him and helped him calm his breathing. He taught him a breathing technique in case it happened again, and when Hunter calmed down a little, Gus talked to him about something else and the scene ended up with both of them laughing. Later in that same episode Gus is the one who starts to panic (because they're in a very life of death situation) and this time Hunter is the one who helps him calm down and I just love that episode 😭 when I finished watching them I 100% told my friends who also watch TOH because I related so much, that's the way I calm down!! I need to breathe, take some time to let it pass and then I really apreciate having someone to talk to so I can distract a little and if they manage to make me laugh that's all I can ever ask for!! Acurate panic attack scenes are important to teach people what to do if they or someone they know have one, but also because there's something very special in finally seeing something you struggle with be represented properly
You included that one clip of The Owl House (10:27) as just "a character panics, it happens". And while plot-wise, that is the extent of it, it's a passing sort of scene--the way in which Eda in particular handles the situation is also S-tier. Luz and Hunter are brought back from the mindscape, and she immediately stops King and Hooty from crowding them. It's a small moment but this is huge!! From personal experience, being surrounded by people fussing and asking questions makes the panic (or really any heightened distress) so much worse. She asks if they're okay, but without insisting when they don't answer, and leaves them space to process. Luz is in silent shock, but Hunter quickly begins to hyperventilate. Eda doesn't know him, doesn't know what he just experienced, what he's freaking out about or what he needs to calm down, but stays grounded and simple: "Kid, breathe." She gives a placating gesture and offers him a hand to help him up and/or steady him. It doesn't work; tragically, Hunter's a victim of physical abuse, as well as conditioned to fear wild witches like Eda and her demons. He sees the hand held out to him and flinches, tries to get away, fearing both his former alliance/home and the people in front of him, and after a moment, sheds his cape, turns and runs out the door. After Luz's call out to him, they let him flee, because he's clearly scared of them and feels like he has to get away. You're left worried for him, but the characters handle it well, to the best of their knowledge and ability. And that's all not to mention the (much more character-development-moment) scene later, in the episode Labyrinth Runners, where he starts to panic and hyperventilate. Gus shows him a breathing exercise to help steady/ground himself, which made me really wonder why such simple, important techniques aren't shown in kids media more!
I've had Panic Attacks several times in my life. If you are a filmmaker and you want to include a Scene with a Panic Attack, go ahead! (Just make sure it is made well and fits the story you are making.)
An interesting point I’ve heard on this topic is the concern that scenes that feature an anxiety attack will become selling points for movies and shows. Like studios will cram a panic attack in a trailer or borderline just brag about having one in the movie with the expectation that itll help sell the show or movie. I don’t think I’ve seen too many examples of this currently, other than the Spiderman short film, but I wonder what other peoples opinions are on this.
Hmm I don’t think this will be the case, I think it’s only a point of focus in meme culture. The short film Spider-Verse scene having a panic attack has no correlation to Puss in Boots, would be impossible for that to be the case either way. You never really know though, but I don’t think this will happen.
Yeah, I like tragic characters as much as the next guy, but it feels kinda meanspirited to start commercialize anxiety and trauma, forcefully inserting a scene in whoch the character hyperventilates so the internet will go "Omg this movie is so real with it. This is literally me"
@@Browntable I hope not. My more cynical side wouldnt be surprised, and it’s up to the people if it’s “further broadening and acceptance of the mental health conversation” or “exploiting mental illness for capital gain.” I feel like you could argue for both and Im interested to see what time has to say about this one.
Was glad to see you included Ladybug's panic attack from Strikeback. I felt that was handled really well tbh. Adrien did what he could to calm her down, and when that didn't work, he gave her privacy to detransform. If you haven't seen it, Ladybug gave the Dog Miraculous to Adrien's cousin Felix, thinking he was Adrien because they look alike, which he then used to steal Ladybug's yoyo to trade the other Miraculous to Shadow Moth for the Peacock Miraculous. When Ladybug realized what was going on, she started having a panic attack, because it was her job to keep the Miraculous safe and she failed. Also, if you haven't seen the show at all, the Miraculous are magic jewels that grant super powers, and Hawk Moth/Shadow Moth/Monarch (he changes his name when he gets new Miraculous) wants Ladybug and Chat Noir's so he can combine them and change reality with their powers of creation and destruction. So yeah, she had a pretty good reason to freak out. There was another episode recently that really tacked the source her anxiety and PTSD. There's this character named Chloe who's a spoiled brat that's been bullying Marinette(Ladybug) for years. Her dad is the mayor, and any time an adult gets involved, she threatens to call her daddy to get them fired, resulting in Marinette getting punished instead so they can save their jobs. Her parents also are no help, resolving to only tell her "don't worry, it'll get better next year because there's no way she'll be in your class AGAIN." This came to a head after Chloe convinced the boy Marinette liked to pull a really cruel and dangerous prank on her when she confessed. This really traumatized Marinette, to the point where when she would eventually fall in love with Adrien, she couldn't even manage to tell him how she felt.
@@purpledshadow As someone who reviews the show, I have to disagree. There are a lot of issues, yes, but there's a lot of good things too. Really, the two biggest issues in Miraculous are the pacing, and Tomas Astruc's ego. There's good lore, complex characters, unique and interesting powers, and even foreshadowing.
Another animated one I'd like to mention is in Finding Dory. I had just started having panic attacks when I first watched it, and a scene in this movie nearly brought one out of me because of how uncomfortably realistic it was. Dory just found out that her parents likely died, and she started having a panic attack. The muffled sounds, the blurred vision, the hyperventilating, everything. Mediocre film, great depiction of a panic attack, much to my dismay at the time.
I was looking for comments about this movie ❤ also, I’d say that the movie was good, but probably because it hits hard with me as a person with intellectual disabilities, and how I interact with the world. The part with her apologizing to her parents makes me cry almost every time 😢
A little curve ball but in the video game Celeste had a panic attack where Madeline and Theo were stuck on a gondala. Theo being the chill guy he is stayed by her and taught her a breathing and it was up to you the player ease Madeline's panic attack.
The best part is that the method involved picturing a feather floating up and down, and towards the end of the game, when Madeline has overcome her fears, the feather is a powerup that lets her fly
The most realistic panic attack was Floor in guardians of the galaxy. (Witnesses Lylla sudden murder and screams "Rocket, Teefs, Floor, GO NOW!" )And she died with those distressful thoughts. I still can't get over this
I love how in the clip of Gumball, when Darwin started doing the snap out of it trope, he literally said something perfect, that he was making it worse. I’ve had a panic attack before, and, depending on the context, hitting them can and will make it worse. The context to the clip, where they think they’re going to be attacked, is not a good time for it. I love TAWOG and I’d totally recommend watching it if you somehow haven’t yet.
One really good example is in Steven universe “mindful education”. Id definitely check that one out, the entire episode is based on Connie’s stress/anxiety attack about something from school and it’s really good
That episode actually ended up helping me significantly in the future. Because of the song Garnet sings, I used it and still do for before I go into stressful situations, or to ground myself when I’m having a panic attack or a breakdown. It’s an excellent episode ❤
@@tayloredwards1675Anna’s song “the next right thing” helps me with depression episodes that lead to intense suicidal ideation. I wonder how many animated series or movies have songs that help
That is a great idea! I have a anxiety disorder, so I have panic attacks quite a bit now and then. When I saw Puss have one, I felt like crying and same goes for Chase in Paw Patrol. I find panic attacks in movies a bit underrated sometimes, but it’s great for character development as well, not just for comedic purposes.
@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112 same I felt bad for Chase. Never thought a preschool franchise would deal with PTSD (being abandoned in Adventure City) and anxiety attacks.
Thor is WAY too strong for the slap to do anything to him other than get his attention. Rocket is so far beneath Thor that he would probably need to be a little physical just to make him listen for a second. AND that scene even shows that it doesn't work because Thor immediately leaves looking for booze. It's not until his mom talks to him that Thor's panic attack dies down.
I've experienced a panic attack only once. My mother kept telling me to stop being dramatic and to just calm down, but when I did try to, I just panicked more and I was crying because my mom kept yelling at me. I did eventually calm down when I was by myself.
It would be cool to see an artistic, visual representation of a panic or anxiety attack. For example, the walls of the room pulsing in an out with every rapid breath; or the lights straining brighter and brighter, buzzing louder and louder as the anxiety increases.
Not really a panic attack, it's more of an autistic meltdown, but there's a moment where in the show Dead End Paranormal Park, a main character gets one and the artsyle changes to reflect her anxiety. If you're curious and haven't seen it just type in Norma's meltdown.
I don't really think it started because of Puss in Boots. I think the whole 'animated panic attack' discourse started because of how badly they were presented in Velma and PiB was used as an example of that being handled more appropriately.
Naruto panic attack scene was not only so good but so well portrayed and relatable as it was a pivotal moment where they finally confronted his stress.
While Puss in Boots is my favorite animated panic attack, Ted Lasso is easily the best in terms of realism and fear because the music mutes and rings, Teds fingers start to curl and he runs. It’s probably the most realistic depiction I’ve ever seen. When his friends find out they support him and talk him through it to calm him down and it’s genuinely great character building
I think the problem is that it comes out of nowhere and really comes off as corny or forced in some shows, it worked for Puss because it tied back to his character arc of believing he was invincible. For other shows it feels almost PSA-like.
Its not a film or a show but i found that the panic attack scene in the game Celeste did an incredible job of portraying panic attacks and how to help people who suffer with them. 10/10
I never really knew what panic attacks felt like until I had a medically induced panic attack when I was on a 3 day school trip. I have really bad asthma to the point where I can't breathe sometimes because of the inflammation of my air ways and the mucus in my lungs but it rarely ever gets to that point due to my parents both going through medical school and one of my parents being a full time doctor and knowing how to take care of me if it gets bad. But this time I didn't have my parents, i had my classmates, my teachers and i was 2 hours away from my city. I went to the 3 day school trip sick because I didn't want to miss out on it. On the second day of being there, we had just come back from a really long hike and we were hanging out in the cafeteria. I was coughing a lot because I overexerted myself so instead of taking 2-3 pumps of my inhaler, I took around 8-10. For people who don't have asthma, taking anymore than your regular dose of your inhaler can speed up your heart a lot so after 2 minutes my heart started to race which in turn, caused my lungs to compress and I panicked and that turned into a panic attack. Thankfully, I was sitting with my wonderful friends who almost immediately recognized what was happening and told the teacher.
As someone who likes to claim, they're a panic attack veteran (i havent found any techniques that have helped and ive been having them consistently since i was born.), the puss in boots scene gets me. I mean, if it were me, it would go on for 2 hours, but it was so accurately portrayed. I kinda teared up, man.
Fun fact: I have an anxiety disorder and while watching puss in boots in theaters that scene got dangerously close to triggering an anxiety attack for me that’s how realistic it felt. (Realistic anxiety attacks in shows is one of my triggers as it turns out) So hats off to the team for that one because they portrayed how it feels so well.
Panic attacks are not fun, I have had far too many and I genuinely couldn't breathe. My dad made it worse by telling me to "stop crying". He did apologize afterwards but at the time it was awful
The S teir animated scene for me, that actually had a profound effect when I watched it (as someone who suffers from diagnosed severe OCD), is in South Park where Craig is having relationship issues due to Tweak's worsening anxiety and panic atttacks, but then Craig learns/has an epiphany as to how to help Tweak properly get through one and it works. Made me tear up, lol. It's similar to grounding technique; one of my friends who also struggles with mental health (MDD) used it with me once to great effect, even though I kinda knew what she was doing.... but yeah, South Park of all places can get this stuff right! So wtf Velma?!
My panic attacks are always more internal, so I've personally never seen a panic attack in a film feel "accurate" but I've found some feel true to the general experience of one and what can drive one. The Hollyhock scene is probably the closest a visual representation has felt to my experience though.
Can relate, my panic attacks often overlap with dissociation, because that's how i learned to control them, so from an outside perspective it just looks like i shut down, holding a bag or something close to my chest for stimulation, like a fish eyed doll
When I have anxiety or panic attacks, it’s generally the same. I’m rather quiet, with the different between to two is just how antsy I am during them. Sometimes people will assume there’s nothing wrong because ‘It’s just heavy breathing’
I have an anxiety disorder, and I never noticed just how many panic attacks I've had throughout my life until this video- wow, I'm really glad that media is getting good at displaying how to help people through things like this, I learned lots of new things in this video too. Thank you!
As someone with chronic anxiety, it really does make me happy with the good representation of Panic Attacks. I do wish for more of a- wider picture of anxiety, but it's really nice to see that they're recognised as something very debilitating and impactful.
😂😂 see I love that humour because it's SO RIDICULOUS that it makes you realise how stupid and impractical the slap trope actually is in real life practice. And filmed at a time where it was probably still seen as acceptable behaviour. Kinda like Family Guy; it isn't humor for assholes, it holds a mirror up to them. (Damn, this comment is showing my age hahaha)😅
i don't really have attacks like this, but when i start dissociating or can't stop crying, my favorite way of grounding is the rainbow method. you look around the room for something in each color and concentrate on that color before letting it go and moving onto the next one. it really works for me, so i thought i'd share it here in case someone hasn't heard of that one :)
i never thought about how usually panic attack scenes are played for laugh. And that reminded me of the panic attack scene in metalocalypse, in the episode bookklok, where toki has a panic attack onstage and skwisgaar decides to defibrillate him and then toki slaps the defibrillator away causing everyone at the concert thingy to die. i'd put it in A
I feel like the portrayal of panic attacks on children's shows are SO incredibly realistic for no reason Like they can show EXACTLY how it *feels* from an inside perspective but also how it *looks* from an outside perspecitve and im left thinking "why is that so well done??" That's the case in miraculous, paw patrol, puss in boots and so many others Its also something done in adult shows and it can be very well done and amazingly portraid like in arcane but i feel in adult shows its more common that theyll pull a velma and put it as a joke or as a way for the character to manipulate others into pitty-ing them and its so annoying Why is that so switched?
I personally have panic attacks due to pretty severe social + generalized anxiety. It's honestly a lovely thing to see shows accurately depict them, or at least TRY to accurately depict them, because I seriously can sympathize with the character in the moment. I feel like animated shows are beginning to get better at properly portraying mental health struggles in an accurate and non-stereotypical way, and that's such a wonderful thing because it adds an extra layer of inclusivity that nobody ever really thinks about. With just one character, someone in real life suffering from depression or anxiety can feel just a bit less alone in the world, because they can see that someone- somewhere- has seen similar hardships, and understands their everyday struggle. But anyways, yeah, Velma sucks.
the panic attacks im well known with is the ones that hunter (from the owl house) has. he has two of them (that ik of.) one in “hollow mind” and “labrynth runners.” the characters who interacted with hunter didnt rush with him and knew what to do to help (mostly in labrynth runners. i think that specific episode is the best to show the panic attack)
Hey, it’s me again. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur even had an accurate panic attack too, but S2 spoilers. After facing off Molecule Man, and as she and The Beyonder were on their way back home, she had some panic attacks about the fact that she “wouldn’t stand a chance against the big bads of the Multiverse”. I heard her heart beating super fast and that scared look in her face…😢
The thing with the “snap out of it” is that it can work. The slap isn’t always necessary but the aspect of getting someone’s attention can work. I’ve had panic attacks and the best thing that could have happened was for someone to hold my attention to help calm me down. But I do agree, hurting someone in a panic attack is not a good idea lol.
I had a panic attack in middle school before. I told my teacher about it on the note app on my phone and asked if can go outside for awhile to help with it. My friends went outside though to help me, but they surrounded me and I felt like I was trapped. I didn’t want to be near people for awhile because it honestly made things worse whenever I had a panic attack. I tried to tell them that I wanted to be alone but nothing came out of my mouth. My teacher, called them all in. After they all left I had calmed my self down and did the 3 3 3 rule.
There's a show, Alexa and Katie, where they portray a very accurate attack as well as ways to deal with it. It's very underrated and I loved the series. Throughout the show, they show how she starts developing anxiety and makes it make sense(not too sudden) and the way people support her, even the guy that's considered katie's(the girl who's having the attacks) rival, helps her out and it starts a good relationship. It shows how it starts, and what happens when it happens and I really liked it
You did such a nice job explaining these scenarios. I was also shocked to see Chase having an anxiety attack like that too…the fact that a Nick Jr franchise explained an anxiety attack hit me. I felt bad for Chase so deeply. I saw the PAW Patrol movie and loved it a lot. Especially Puss In Boots 2, Miraculous Ladybug, Avengers Endgame, Ralph, Owl House and Gumball. Didn’t see Velma although (and I never will and I don’t wanna!). Other panic attacks that I know are when Dory in Finding Dory had the panic attack when she thought she lost her family but then she did find her family, and when Marinette (Miraculous Ladybug, episode: Derision) was having panic attacks about her flashbacks to Chloe’s pranks. You did an amazing job explaining everything. Well done. I am excited for PAW Patrol: The Mighty Movie 2.
sometimes panic attacks are not visible some people look like their spacing out but are actually panicking on the inside like in the first iron man clip.
a fun irl fact: once, in middle school, my friend saw me start semi-freaking out and then thought 'ah yes, this would be a perfect time to slap my friend in the face like they do in the movies' and she did. it did nothing except cause me to slap her back (because why the fuck would someone do that in real life) and my mom almost went down to the principles office to get her in trouble for smacking a student. dont slap people when they're having panic attacks, kids.
As someone who suffers from panic attacks a lot and loves The owl house Hunter’s panic attack really made me feel some type of way and I think was rlly well done. (Also the way Eda tries to comfort him, I just want her every time I have one now)
YOOOO NARUTO!! That was the first place I ever saw a panic attack depicted in media, its really amazing especially coming from a semi-old shonen anime. He's never belittled for it by the other characters or the narrative, its treated as evidence of his big heart.
I think the “snap out of it” thing comes from the idea that shock will kinda overpower the crushing fear of a panic attack. But what people don’t realize is that shock can be a fear response. If the way someone is responding to a life threatening situation is with shock, then a shocking action like a hard slap will not overweigh their fear. You wouldn’t suddenly be able to focus if you had a gun to your head and someone slapped you. In the same line, if someone’s having a panic attack, they are experiencing the full force of the fight or flight response. A hard slap will not pull them out of their fight or flight response because now you’ve given them a REASON to be scared. And if that panic attack was triggered by something (ex: alcohol or fireworks), which it isn’t always, then now their association with that trigger that was originally all in their head is REAL. So now they have something to direct their **fight** at, or something to run away from. And if you’re the slapper, that thing is YOU.
There was a kind of panic attack scene in Bluey where Bandit failed to make a Duck Cake for Bingo, and he just plopped to the ground and curled into ball. He wasn't crying, he wasn't making noises, he wasnt screaming, he was just sitting in silence. Like we alwasy see him as goofy, silly and funny father, and then at this moment, when he wanted to make a great surprise for Bingo, he failed at it, and he just was overwhelmed.
Another great panic attack example is Pablo's portrayals through the first two seasons of The Backyardigans, it's humorous yet also empatethic; the perfect balance using the classic 'snap out of it' method. And speaking of Bluey, the show got a less drastical way to portray a panic attack; in the episode "Movies", Bluey gets anxious by attending the cinema for the first time, as a scary scene shows up, she has a minor panic attack, her dad notices and kindly offers her to leave the cinema by taking her hand. It's a less conventional depiction, but quite opportune and significantly felicitous; not to mention exceedingly appropiate considering the girl's young age.
The fact that an animated G-film based on PAW Patrol had a better portrayal of a panic attack than a supposedly "adult" animated series has me snickering. 🤭
And to quote Max Mittelman as Ryuuji/Ryuji, freaking, Sakamoto about it: FOR REAL???!!!
@@maxleon61702 Yeah! What's next, is PAW Patrol: The Mighty Movie gonna be a better superhero film than Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania?
(Edit/Update: It was!)
Maybe a yes because of well, it'll be inevitable to happen...for real.
Honestly, it makes sense. Paw Patrol wants to teach its audience, Velma wants to..be edgy?
Velma is everything except three things:
Adult
Mature
Good
The fact that even a preschool show like Paw Patrol did it better than Velma is so hilarious.
Any show can do something better than Velma.
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 Wrong! Velma is better at being terrible than other shows.
It’s because Paw Patrol was written by adults and made for babies, and Velma was written for adults and made by babies/hj
To quote Max Mittelman as Ryuuji/Ryuji about it: FOR REAL????!!!!
And sad all at the same time. -.-"
Fun fact, someone actually tried the "Snap Out Of It" trope on me. Because I was already so freaked out, I slapped them back, harder. I wound up apologizing profusely, but they understood completely, saying that they absolutely deserved it.
That’s terrible and it sucks that happened for both of you but that is also really, REALLY funny
@@Vivigreeny25 We both actually did end up laughing after from just how much like a cartoon scene it felt. We're actually great friends to this day!
@@unfunny420 That’s awesome! :)
Yeah, the same thing happened to me, but I didn't have the strength at the time to slap them back lol
Someone did that with me once, because they took my panic attack as me disrespecting them.
It worked even less than you'd expect, since I also have PTSD from physical abuse, and a defense mechanism kicked in, leading to them laying on the floor, a few seconds later, with a huge bloody gash across their face.
I honestly don't remember what happened, just that one second I was sitting on a chair, struggling to breathe, and the next I was standing over them, as they held their bleeding face and just... whimpered.
They weren't mad at me or anything, just avoided me for a while, probably because they thought I was mad.
Eventually, we got back to talking, and went for ice cream together.
Sufficed to say, they learned their lesson.
Don't slap someone who's freaking out, for both their and your own good.
I think tmnt 2012 did the “snap out of it” trope the best:
“…did you just slap me?”
“I was calming you down!”
“WHY WOULD THAT CALM ME DOWN?!”
I was thinking about that too, glad someone mentioned it! It was a quick moment but the "why would that calm me down" showed how counter productive a slap would be for someone in a panic. Leo said "I was calming you down" with so confidence, he fr thought that as seen on TV slap would work
@@syre5458tbh I never like how Leo treated Mikey in that series. He'd make a good leader but not so good Older brother to Mikey.
@@durratulaishah3703a recurring problem in all versions of tmnt is that they are supposed to be a family and a team. And in 2012 this problem is more noticeable, they treat each other more like a couple of friends having a good time.
@@nicolpineda8632 finally someone sees it too
@@nicolpineda8632 also, I'm actually glad the dynamic between the brothers in Rottmnt and the newest movie improved ALOT especially dynamic between Leo and Mikey
Fun fact about the Paw Patrol one, Chase was originally going to have a nightmare where he has to do a similar save to the one with the rollercoaster, starts using the zip line but it fails and Chase ends up falling from the building height to the street Mufasa style. It gets worse, he doesn't just hit the road, he hits an oncoming car calling back to what would have happened to him if Ryder wasn't there when he was a stray. That could have traumatized all the kids.
Dang that sounds intense, now I wish they kept that in the movie
A little trauma from movies can be a good thing
@@Numbuh8578 what? Are u a sadist?
The two reasons they didn’t do this is because the audience already knows about Chase’s fear of the City and the fact it was a little dark for younger audiences.
Well there’s definitely a difference between scaring kids and traumatizing kids, you can be scared without being traumatized
although in this case, yeah that might’ve been just a tad too dark
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is the kind of animated stories that the industry should invest more. It’s a movie for everyone. It has fun moments that the children can have fun, but also has mature and deep themes than the adults can get behind.
Velma is what we should NOT have more often in the animation industry. That show is a spit in the face to Scooby-Doo and to animation in general.
I personally dont believe Velma is part of the Scooby Dooby Do franchise...
Because there is no Scooby
While I agree that Velma is not the direction animation should be going, but the world still needs adult animation. Not the shows where violence and sex are the whole point of it, but where adult issues can take front and center. Like the later parts of Moral Orel (especially the episode exploring the trama of Moralton’s women), all of Tuca and Berdie, and while it might be over stated, Bojack Horseman
@@FatCatSnuggles agreed. also while there is plenty animations made for adults I think as a whole it’s mostly associated with children’s films and while that isn’t exactly a “bad” thing I feel like it makes a lot of people brush off animation
@@combustivve and the shaggy character isnt shaggy, just some random dude
they really thought we would believe them
Shrek was revolutionary, and I'm so glad Puss In Boots 2 is following in Shreks footsteps
The Owl House clip at 10:27 is interesting. There's a few seconds cut out , but Hunter runs away after Eda reaches her hand out to him. Eda herself has dealt with panic attacks and knew to give him space after a traumatic event. Except when Eda reaches out a hand that's supposed to ground Hunter, she unknowingly triggers him because of his history with physical abuse. It's subtle, but shows that there's no one size fits all solution to dealing with a panic attack. And a few episodes later, he finds a method that does work to calm him down.
And that method was the breathing technique Willow taught Gus :)
😭😭😭
My goodness that show is goofy AF. Almost forgot about it after I dumped its ahh.
@@bungiecrimes7247 ok 1. No one cares
2. It gets better during season 2 I promise
@@bungiecrimes7247 yeah s1 is a bit goofy and lighthearted (for the most part) since it's still establishing its characters and the world, but they really upped the horror and seriousness in s2 once the real story gets going
I don't even know that I'd call the Wreck-It Ralph scene a panic attack. That's just primal fear, problem solving and comedy. Felix's reaction is entirely on the level of the situation he's in. The danger is completely real, not imagined or perceived.
Plus, it's such a specific situation that it's kind of difficult to explain.
"I almost drowned in chocolate milk mix!"
That’s a good point. One detail the tone of most of those movie’s scenes successfully buried in my mind is that if they die outside their game they don’t regenerate. Raplh, calhoon, felix, and turbo are in actual critical danger as long as they remain in sugar rush. The death traps are contoonish candy and in a video game yes. But they are deadly to these characters. It makes you remember that ralph actually really put his life on the line to get that medal in hero’s duty as well.
yeah. Call diff does have panic attacks about her wedding however
I agree. I think it’s a great and funny scene and has nothing to do with a panic attack. Everyone would panic in a life or death scenario and I think it’s not only in character but also very reasonable of her to try and knock him out. She’s a tough, cold woman, of course she’s not gonna be gentle here. What would make sense to her is knocking him out. Both of them are panicking in their own way as they’re facing death. So yeah I agree. I don’t think Felix is having a panic attack here.
Honestly, “Puss In Boots: The Last Wish” did kinda, sorta made an accurate depiction of a ‘panic-attack’.
@@NecroticWes what's the difference between the two? I'm curious
@@NecroticWes oh okay!
I feel like the movie handled it pretty well and it kinda gives us an idea of what it can look like in some people
@@NecroticWes ohhh thank you
It actually made me cry in theaters because it was super relatable
I had a few panic attacks. If I had been slapped, I think my "fight" response would have kicked in and I probably would have hit back as an instinctive response.
I'm not comparing humans to dogs, but if a dog was panicking, you wouldn't hit the dog. So don't hit people!
Exactly. You made me remember that one time I had the worst panic attack ever back in my early childhood. And I actually had a fight response when a girl tried comforting me in the middle of it by simply hugging me. I hit her in responce. I felt horrible about it ever since, even though I immediately apologized and she was understanding and forgave me right away, but at least I now kinda see where this nonsensical reaction of mine came from. I never faught since and refuse to after what had happened, but if someone actually hit or slapped me during a panic attack, I can say with 90% certainty I would start fighting for my life and that would be kinda justified imo.
In older movies, cartoons and tv shows, where a character had a panic attack or was upset, they were slapped in the face and it was often for comedy or seen as okay to do that.
It’s upsetting.
SNAP OUTTA IT, SOLDIER!
@@matthewdilday7918 I always found it funny! Plus it didn't glorify it, it's just comedy and jokes, and most kids know it's not ok to slap anyone. (Or that's how I see it anyways)
@@milesdodson3510 It depends on how it’s done.
All I've taken away from this video is Gumball secured another W
FR
Fr fr
They always secure ws
And that Velma took another L
@@lightbringer_lol5876 Nah Velma is a walking L
Funny how a movie made for babies can handle a panic attack better than a “adult” show made by a big company
That becuase people keep saying to their self that "oh, these people are adult. They can handle panic more then kids do...." when in reality, everybody need help if they got the panic attack. Cartoon always treat panic attack like it just a slapstick joke but if you got the panic attack, dont you also want someone to help you?
Unrelated but ur profile pic looks cute as heck
@@elliottpak Which one of us are you talking to? And if it’s me, thanks
Are u saying that PAW PATROL is a "babies" show?
If so, then, I -hate- u...
ITS LITERALLY MY CHILDHOOD
i kinda hate how depression and anxiety are the only two forms of mental issues that are accepted to talk about. in fact not only okay - but people almost want to have anxiety - to be a victims. they glorify anxiety i feel. but other disorders - and celebs that have them or movie characters - it's still such a stigma. i hate this world
edit: interesting how sharing this, it's apparently an open invitation for people to share all sorts of things 😳
Not too familiar with what conditions and such there are, but the fetishization of depression and anxiety is definitely a thing.
Mind you how literally everyone jokes about being depressed all the time, and occasionally it will almost come off as like a badge of pride.
I occasionally had instances before where I was like "Man, I sure wish I was depressed. I'd be a much more interesting character" as if it was like a desirable trait that everyone should strive to have
@@DestinySpider yeah exactly. And then if one day you get actual legit depression, you release this is not a place anyone should strive to be. It’s a horrible illness.
@@DestinySpider Yeah, that's definitely a thing, but also sometimes when people want something bad to happen to them then it's an indication that there's already a mental/psychological problem in their life (not as bad as real depression, but it can be a symptom of something else, "serious" or not)
If you hate this world then you should leave
@@evantaylor4796 that's such an horrible thing to say. I don't know how you're doing in life, but I hope you talk to someone about this, because the thing you just wrote is defenetly not it. Wish for you better
So are you telling me FREAKING Paw Patrol had a better portrayal of panic attacks than Velma?! A preschool animated show had a better portrayal than an ADULT animated series?!!!
Like were not even talking about TV-Y7 shows like Avatar, we are talking about a show who's target audience is below the age of 6!
Lets be honest, Paw Patrol is superior to Velma in every concivable way, not just because that is a very low bar to jump, but because Paw Patrol actualy respects it's target audience, even though it's a preschool show.
@@marinacosta8835 bruh paw patrol slaps and the movie looks great but i've never watched it, but i remember the show just slapped so hard as a kid
@@SilentBeaver That show is my childhood
Yeah the show actually has constant characterization for the dogs (I forget the trash one's names but like with his fear of water)
Too bad it seems to fall into the hole of,show must have new gimmicks and we will never go back to the old ones to make toys
@@LycanMOON: His name is Rocky.
When Naruto hyperventilated, my world was changed. That seems intense, but that show meant a lot to a lot of people, and it was just so sudden. We've seen him scream and cry, and break down before, but that was just...so real. So bluntly underdramatic for Naruto, the show and the character. And yet it hit so hard.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who's thought this 😭 Naruto's panic attack had me feeling some sorta way
Same!! I love Naruto and the scene make me like it so much more, the pain he went through with sasuke it made so much sense, he couldn’t take the stress…the animation was also incredible
Y el ataque de pánico de Kawaki también es maravillosa, especialmente en la que sintió que por su culpa Naruto moriría.
Él estaba mal, no sabía que hacer y su respiración era agitada estaba a punto de rendirse y lo único que lo calmó fué el recuerdo de su padre adoptivo Naruto, las palabras y el abrazo que recordaba que funcionó la primera vez.
My older sis has panic attacks brought on by a mix of agoraphobia and kenophobia. I've had to help her through quite a few panic episodes, not all of which I've handled correctly unfortunately, but I know what it's like from a secondhand perspective. Seeing media handle panic attacks correctly, not berating the characters for feeling scared and acting like a slap on the face or yelling at them will solve things, is so, so important.
There’s a scene in the first episode of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(2012) where Mikey encounters a Krang for the first time and starts having a panic attack. They did do the slap thing but Mikey just had the right response of going WHY WOULD THAT CALM ME DOWN?! But his brothers don’t really help him emotionally after that.
Ooooo yeah I see that trope everywhere lmao, at least it’s acknowledged that it doesn’t help and it’s in character I’m assuming, so it’s fine
What's also interesting about it is, the _reason_ Leonardo thought it would help is because his favorite TV show character does it all the time.
Look, I love TMNT. I've been in the fandom for almost 2 years now, and TMNT 2012 is my favorite version. However, I don't think what Mikey had was really a panic attack. It was likely just severe anxiety. Panic attacks hinder your ability to function properly, and can make you feel like you are literally dying. I don't think that's what Mikey was experiencing, considering he was still able to explain the situation the best he could.
@@livvygrossmann6004 Yeah, he just seemed to be incredibly shocked at seeing such a thing existing- and tbh, anyone would
@@T_E_G very true!
I'm a simple man, I see love for Puss In Boots and hatred for Velma, I click and like instantly :) Good to see you back!
LMAO thank you thank you
@@Browntable Is USA okay? Is it fine? Seems like you guys have a crisis going on
@@suzygirl1843 ...we're really not. please send ice cream.
@@suzygirl1843 We're always in a bit of a crisis.
@@matildalitsey143 I just don't think Americans are happy. Why is it that poorest regions in Africa has a higher coefficient of happy people despite their situation yet USA has such negativity all the time? I really want to cut off The West's internet.
I was honestly surprised to not see Arcane being mentioned here. Especially with the panic attack that Jinx went through at the very last scene of the show was something that impressed me greatly.
Not only did it have an absolutely phenomenal visualization, but it also showed how much it can escalate if you say the wrong things to the victim, as Vi did there. The scene went absolutely wild once the panic attack escalated, and it did a really great job at putting the audience in Jinx's shoes, with everything moving extremely rapidly, and things only stopping once she snaps out of it, and realizes what she's done.
There were many scenes before, that depicted her having a panic attack, but that is the one that stuck with me the most. The show deals with Jinx's mental issues extremely well, and it really deserves more attention.
it's like you can even feel how intense the scene is, all to be lead up to a *gasp*
Yes! Arcane is phenomenal in every way and every moment. Done so, so well. But for an average person (as in, not traumatized and likely sociopathic like Jinx, or with her volume of isses...) a panic attack not mentioned here that stuck out to me was Fluttershy's in Hurricane Fluttershy. Her intense anxiety and the way it visualized every eye on her with her chest heaving up and down and her sobbing after. Broke my heart
Meh
The thing I appreciated most about the scene in Puss in Boots was the demonstration of pressure therapy from a service dog. Puss in boots was such a hugely popular movie and I don't doubt people may be more educated now about what service dogs provide to people with anxiety--it is not uncommon to have a panic attack in a public place and have to lay down on the ground where you are (most people, me included, can pass out/collapse during panic/anxiety attacks so it can be dangerous to run around looking for a secluded place to calm down.) Education is important so people understand why they might see something like that in public, and less chance of bystanders trying to remove or interrupt the service dog. When I watched that scene, I felt so known and understood in that moment.
To elaborate, pressure therapy works because pressure makes you conscious of breathing and helps slow heart rate. It's also used to help people with heart conditions stabilize their blood pressure. It's the same reason weighted blankets can help people with anxiety sleep.
There's always room for Velma hate
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i'd rather say that all the hate in the world offset to the velma show would almost be enough to have enough velma hate
@@birdterence9948 I said offset, not adding more hate.
tbh equally dividing it would be a problem because there wouldn't be enough
YES INDEED. Who’s idea was it to bring Velma up?
The room would be a literal backrooms
It irks me how quickly people (especially on Twitter) got tired of this new way to move forward with depicting mental issues in mainstream media. For years we get unrealistic and exaggerated depictions that harms how the public perceives mental illness, and now that recent animated movies are being more accurate and nuanced about it, people started... getting tired of it? I don't get it.
What do you mean when you say they got tired of it? (I don't use Twitter, so I have no idea)
@@catbatrat1760 Like in they get annoyed how it's misrepresented, then when they get what they want which is proper representation they still complain.
That's kinda how I feel about ppl dumping on the generational trauma trope in new animated movies. Like it's been in what, 3 mainstream movies? At least the explicit message of it being in an animated movie is present and a current theme, and ppl are tired of it and it's overdone and boring?? What??
KInd of reminds me of how by the time Welcome Home came around, the lost media community had gotten TIRED of lost episode creepypastas & just want to steer away from any & all creepypasta-like things.
What's next. Can't write about basic human emotions?
As someone who LOVES Wreck-it-Ralph, and who has frequent panic attacks, I think the scene is handled well, but isn't perfect. It's supposed to be silly, but if Felix was never slapped, it would have never set up for them to escape the quick sand. The slap was needed, because when Felix was panicking, no other "funny" moment could happen. Although I don't like that he automatically calms down, I think this deserves A tier.
As another person who loves Wreck-It Ralph, I 100% agree
I will say Calhoun’s reaction is expected, considering her game genre. The slap is a sort of action movie cliche and she’s an action/horror/sci fi protagonist. Hence “slap someone and tell them to get a grip” is probably programmed into her subconsciously.
Personally, I didn’t have a problem with it. The slap made sense for her character, and it wasn’t really the slap that calmed him down. It was the instant realization that they had a way out. The problem he was freaking out over was removed. At least that’s how I took it. Wasn’t perfect, but I’ve personally had “Oh.” moments where I just kinda stopped because the “threat” was removed. Or never existed in the first place in a notable event involving what I thought was a spider 😂
Paw Patrol managing to actually potray panic attacks better than Velma is one of the reasons of why Paw Patrol is a GOATed children's show
Me to the kid sitting next to me in the theater watching Puss in Boots: This is an accurate representation of panic attacks.
you joke but this is what I said to my little sister out loud during the scene
dont creep them out
Me to the kid sitting next to me in the theater watching Puss in Boots: Your favorite hero is going to die, and so are you
@@genericname2747 I'm going to steal that line, thanks
@@TheEvilEmerald You're welcome, go scare children
The scene with Rocket and Thor didn't work though, Thor runs as soon as he can. Just because he got quiet after the slap doesn't mean "the slap worked", Thor was in shock and clammed up, which is something most people would do in that scenario. I would argue the scene shows that the response Rocket had doesn't work imo
I agree cause as soon as rocket left Thor's anxiety rose up and strait ran with his mighty tail between his legs. It's only when interacting with his mother is when he ended up getting some closure.
@@SnazzyjazzBro
Hold up... Thor has a mother??? Sorry if that had nothing to do with what you said, I never watched any of the Marvel Endgame movies so this scene (and possibly many others since... it's a movie) was unknown to me.
@@chippy2023 Yeah she was killed by Malekith in Thor 2
@@dewolf123
Oh. Yeah that probably explains why I never heard of Thor's mom, especially since I wasn't a big enough Marvel Thor fan to watch that (I think I only saw the first one, but that was like what? In the early 2010's probably?).
@@chippy2023 Yeah sadly Thor movies are very unloved.
hunter from owl house exemplifies a subtle yet deep-rooted panic attack ,,, he does it so well because of his realization of something he’s been so convinced of his entire life
I'm a younger person who tends to be vulnerable to panic attacks. I have a very visual mind, so my description of one is kinda odd. I wrote about it one time. It went like this:
"He could feel his mind slip into monochrome tones." How I feel right before an attack is basically, disconnected.
"Everything began to return in a violent wave of bright colors. His breathing picked up immediately, and his chest beat like a steel drum. A tickling feeling went up his spine and into his brain and neck. His face flet like it was painlessly melting into warm milk. That same milk would drip out of his eyes any moment now."
I often refer to other people as "It" in this writing, because for me it feels hard to identify anything and anyone while having an attack.
I don't know why I decided to comment this.
Holy shit that describes it near perfectly
I’ve never had one, and now I hope even more that I don’t have one because that sounds insane. I’m sorry you had to go through that.
You seem to describe panic with dissociation. It's a trauma response but can happen for other reasons. Your brain is trying to be "helpful" by removing you mentally from the situation as much as it can in order to get you through it. However dissociation itself can be unnerving (especially in recollection which can be various levels of hazy) and make you act and/or think in ways you normally wouldn't.
Speak to a professional about it if you can; otherwise try to take solace in the moments that this happens that it is just a brain misfire that won't hurt you physically and will pass.
omfg your “visual mind” is very interesting and i hope it people see how useful and cool it is someday
@rosesofpalesnow aw that's nice thanks for saying that. ☺️
Ted Lasso, that show perfectly describes a panic attack, and how to move on. It really is great development.
Still need to watch it, I've heard it's great but I don't have Apple TV ;w;
@@Browntable seasons 1 and 2 are amazing but season 3 has been a letdown so far. Still recommend it though
what are you on about, season 3 has been great
@@kaio-k5781 you look jack in the face and say that again. i dare you.
@@frozenepsilon5295 Season's been alright for the most part, but I can agree Keeley's plotline is a complete joke.
10:80 this is a scene from The Owl House, and I was waiting until the video was over to mention this moment to see if it would bring it up first. But since it didn’t brief over it, I will :) basically, the character Hunter is having a panic attack after experiencing a traumatic experience. The younger characters rush forward to comfort him, but the oldest there holds them back, telling them to give him space. He is unable to immediately communicate with them and throws off his cape, which had direct ties to the trauma he had experienced. He runs out of the house and the other characters call him but don’t follow, except for his bird. It is implied but not shown on screen he receives comfort from his bird (it’s a magic show, so the bird can communicate telepathically lol).
Later in the series, Hunter nearly experiences another panic attack, but is told by another character to breath. They remove themselves from the situation and work on a breathing exercise together quietly, which breaks him out of his panic.
Out of all panic attack scenes in kids shows, these were extremely accurately depicted and I would definitely recommend giving the show a watch :)
Yes agreed!!!!!
I was going to say this exact thing! You probably put it to words better than i could though
Ok but I LOVE the fact that the owl house is both accurately reptesenting it, while also teaching kids a great breathing method
And that breathing method is extremely useful irl
Exactly! The breathing method they show actually works, too. Nothing worked for me, but then when i watched that scene I decided to use it next time I have a panic attack, and it worked!
Can we also talk about how absolutely INTENSE that scene was in Puss and Boots though? I swear I almost had a panic attack from the sheer stress I could feel from him.
As someone who had a panic attack on one of my closest friend's birthday 2 days ago, let me tell you, as much as people tried calming me down, the situation escalated so bad when a video I was making for the birthday person went all sorts of wrong, I had been working on it for 2 weeks, and it has caused me so much stress. Because the birthday friend was looking at the projector and had their back turned, they did not see my state and instead jokingly said comments like how bad we are at this and that we're such bad planners. My friend is a jokester and was trying to lighten the mood, but they were utterly clueless to the series of visible signs of my sheer panic. I just broke down crying in front of everyone and ran into the kitchen in another friend's lap, repeatedly saying loudly, "I can't take it anymore!" It took the friend helping me with the video, the birthday person, and the friend I was crying on their lap to get me to calm down. After that, I was just a mess and I still haven't contacted anyone from the party because I'm still ashamed and embarrassed. I have a strong feeling that I really upset the birthday friend because they really care about me, and that was the first time I broke down on what was supposed to be a day to celebrate and have a good time, but instead, I bit off more than I could chew and ended up in a terrible state. I really messed up. I hate panic attacks so much :(
Please call them. Like you say, they care about you! Sometimes it just happens but the important thing is if you're okay now, and that you know your friends aren't going to blame you for something you can't really control.
Id try calling them up, letting them know what happened. If they're good friends they'd try to understand the situation.
you should call them! they are your friends and even if you upset the party or whatever, but they'll understand they probably already forgave you!
@@thekingofdoges Yes call them because as you said probably already forgave her but my god what a incredible profile picture you have! It's a royal doge!
Callll them like rn even if ya already did
I know after the Spider-Verse short comes out, all of the internet will go "SO COOL THAT IT WAS INFLUENCED BY SPIDER-VERSE!" when any character has anything close to anxiety in animation.
LMAO okay that's pretty funny I actually think this will happen but ppl will say the short was influenced by Puss in Boots for the meme
@@Browntable that’s fair I just tend to notice a trend of attributing every 3d mixed with 2d animation to Spider-verse
I'm confused when did spiderverse even do that
@@Pinkkittie5006 Notice how at the start of the sentence he says _"after_ the Spider-Verse short comes out." The short isn't out yet, but we know what its going to be about.
@Lasercraft32 oh, yeah i missed that part some how
Can we talk about how far American animation has come in the last 20 years? So many great movies and moments nowadays.
They were many better ones 20 years ago
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 Never said there weren’t. Just the overall quantity to quality by percentage is higher nowadays than 25-30 years ago.
@@YouVSMeTV Not to mention overall increase in the US population, meaning more being made every day.
@@ExtremeWreck Yep, along with the ability to tell more varied and unique stories.
The PAW patrol scene was 1000% my acrophobia summarized in a moment. The line where you said that someone shouldn't force him to continue or shout at him really hit hard. I have extremely bad acrophobia, but nonetheless, I made the dubious choice at summer camp to attempt a rope course. This was several years ago. Of course, the moment I found out that the end of the ropes course was a zipline, I freaked out and demanded that I get off the course. (There were actually other ways to get off the course outside of the zipline.) For some reason, the guide wasn't the most receptive or understanding of this fear and spent 20 minutes trying to force me to go on the zipline and caused me to have an emotional breakdown. (Crying, shaking, curling up, etc.) Eventually, they let me climb down, but I got the feeling they were already really annoyed with me.
Same went for me at Splash Mountain at Disney World once, I could relate to Chase. I mean, I’m not THAT afraid of heights, but when I heard Splash Mountain was gonna close permanently I had to go ride it as much as possible, making sure I don’t have any evacuations. We got stopped before the final drop, the lights came on and I began to have a panic attack just like Chase did.
I’ve been anxious about the evacuations since I knew it was an imminent goodbye to my childhood mountain ride (I’ve still got other fav’s don’t worry, and I do love Princess and the Frog tho, just gonna need time to process for the Tiana retheme) but I always knew it was one of a kind for me. I was able to ride over and over again after that one evacuation day.
So, during that part where I was stuck near the final drop, I was definitely in Chase’s position. My heart was racing and my breath ran out but the cast members were genuine and very helpful.
I’m gonna give a stupid example but it’s important:
In Rio 2, Roberto (yes, Bruno Mars’ character) is a character who has PTSD and he has panic attacks in the film, he even goes as far to start screaming stuff (repeating what he has said during the traumatic event as he relived it) to himself and not being able to listen to anyone.
And my biggest issue with with that is that it’s mostly played up for laughs bc “haha smooth and suave character is actually a mess” and it does the stupid “snap out of it” trope.
As far as I’m concerned (as someone with panic attacks), Roberto is a good example of someone with PTSD and panic attacks but the way it’s handled is awful.
It’s not really a stupid example, actually. I do agree the slap isn’t helpful. I love Rio 2 cuz it’s one of my childhoods.
When I think of a panic attack scene that's comical without being harmful, Bocchi the Rock comes to mind. We actually see what's going on in Bocchi's head and it's hilarious.
And her friends just treat it as a normal thing, which is also really funny but super supportive at the same time.
Now that I think about, a lot of anxiety/panic attacks happen throughout the show.
4:22 that reminds me of the scene form the 2012 TMNT
For those who don’t know the scene goes a bit like this
Mikey: “LISTEN TO ME THERE WAS A BRAIN THING!”
(Leo slaps Mikey)
Leo: “Better?”
Mikey: “NO, WHY WOULD THAT MAKE ME FEEL BETTER!”
The Owl House has another panic attack scene (also with Hunter) and it was handled SO WELL, at least for me. I have had multiple panic and anxiety attacks too (and probably will have more) and the way it was handled in the show was pretty much how I deal with them. Hunter started to have a panic attack, and another character (Gus) sat with him and helped him calm his breathing. He taught him a breathing technique in case it happened again, and when Hunter calmed down a little, Gus talked to him about something else and the scene ended up with both of them laughing. Later in that same episode Gus is the one who starts to panic (because they're in a very life of death situation) and this time Hunter is the one who helps him calm down and I just love that episode 😭 when I finished watching them I 100% told my friends who also watch TOH because I related so much, that's the way I calm down!! I need to breathe, take some time to let it pass and then I really apreciate having someone to talk to so I can distract a little and if they manage to make me laugh that's all I can ever ask for!! Acurate panic attack scenes are important to teach people what to do if they or someone they know have one, but also because there's something very special in finally seeing something you struggle with be represented properly
You included that one clip of The Owl House (10:27) as just "a character panics, it happens". And while plot-wise, that is the extent of it, it's a passing sort of scene--the way in which Eda in particular handles the situation is also S-tier.
Luz and Hunter are brought back from the mindscape, and she immediately stops King and Hooty from crowding them. It's a small moment but this is huge!! From personal experience, being surrounded by people fussing and asking questions makes the panic (or really any heightened distress) so much worse.
She asks if they're okay, but without insisting when they don't answer, and leaves them space to process. Luz is in silent shock, but Hunter quickly begins to hyperventilate.
Eda doesn't know him, doesn't know what he just experienced, what he's freaking out about or what he needs to calm down, but stays grounded and simple: "Kid, breathe." She gives a placating gesture and offers him a hand to help him up and/or steady him.
It doesn't work; tragically, Hunter's a victim of physical abuse, as well as conditioned to fear wild witches like Eda and her demons. He sees the hand held out to him and flinches, tries to get away, fearing both his former alliance/home and the people in front of him, and after a moment, sheds his cape, turns and runs out the door.
After Luz's call out to him, they let him flee, because he's clearly scared of them and feels like he has to get away. You're left worried for him, but the characters handle it well, to the best of their knowledge and ability.
And that's all not to mention the (much more character-development-moment) scene later, in the episode Labyrinth Runners, where he starts to panic and hyperventilate. Gus shows him a breathing exercise to help steady/ground himself, which made me really wonder why such simple, important techniques aren't shown in kids media more!
I've had Panic Attacks several times in my life.
If you are a filmmaker and you want to include a Scene with a Panic Attack, go ahead! (Just make sure it is made well and fits the story you are making.)
An interesting point I’ve heard on this topic is the concern that scenes that feature an anxiety attack will become selling points for movies and shows. Like studios will cram a panic attack in a trailer or borderline just brag about having one in the movie with the expectation that itll help sell the show or movie. I don’t think I’ve seen too many examples of this currently, other than the Spiderman short film, but I wonder what other peoples opinions are on this.
Hmm I don’t think this will be the case, I think it’s only a point of focus in meme culture. The short film Spider-Verse scene having a panic attack has no correlation to Puss in Boots, would be impossible for that to be the case either way. You never really know though, but I don’t think this will happen.
Yeah, I like tragic characters as much as the next guy, but it feels kinda meanspirited to start commercialize anxiety and trauma, forcefully inserting a scene in whoch the character hyperventilates so the internet will go "Omg this movie is so real with it. This is literally me"
@@Browntable I hope not. My more cynical side wouldnt be surprised, and it’s up to the people if it’s “further broadening and acceptance of the mental health conversation” or “exploiting mental illness for capital gain.” I feel like you could argue for both and Im interested to see what time has to say about this one.
Was glad to see you included Ladybug's panic attack from Strikeback. I felt that was handled really well tbh. Adrien did what he could to calm her down, and when that didn't work, he gave her privacy to detransform. If you haven't seen it, Ladybug gave the Dog Miraculous to Adrien's cousin Felix, thinking he was Adrien because they look alike, which he then used to steal Ladybug's yoyo to trade the other Miraculous to Shadow Moth for the Peacock Miraculous. When Ladybug realized what was going on, she started having a panic attack, because it was her job to keep the Miraculous safe and she failed. Also, if you haven't seen the show at all, the Miraculous are magic jewels that grant super powers, and Hawk Moth/Shadow Moth/Monarch (he changes his name when he gets new Miraculous) wants Ladybug and Chat Noir's so he can combine them and change reality with their powers of creation and destruction. So yeah, she had a pretty good reason to freak out.
There was another episode recently that really tacked the source her anxiety and PTSD. There's this character named Chloe who's a spoiled brat that's been bullying Marinette(Ladybug) for years. Her dad is the mayor, and any time an adult gets involved, she threatens to call her daddy to get them fired, resulting in Marinette getting punished instead so they can save their jobs. Her parents also are no help, resolving to only tell her "don't worry, it'll get better next year because there's no way she'll be in your class AGAIN." This came to a head after Chloe convinced the boy Marinette liked to pull a really cruel and dangerous prank on her when she confessed. This really traumatized Marinette, to the point where when she would eventually fall in love with Adrien, she couldn't even manage to tell him how she felt.
Possibly the only thing the writers of the show got right / did well on
@@purpledshadow As someone who reviews the show, I have to disagree. There are a lot of issues, yes, but there's a lot of good things too. Really, the two biggest issues in Miraculous are the pacing, and Tomas Astruc's ego. There's good lore, complex characters, unique and interesting powers, and even foreshadowing.
It's been a long time since I've seen the show what the hell did I miss/nm
@@y.9645 A lot. You missed a lot.
i agree, i've seen strikeback at least 5 times and that scene always sticks out
Another animated one I'd like to mention is in Finding Dory. I had just started having panic attacks when I first watched it, and a scene in this movie nearly brought one out of me because of how uncomfortably realistic it was. Dory just found out that her parents likely died, and she started having a panic attack. The muffled sounds, the blurred vision, the hyperventilating, everything. Mediocre film, great depiction of a panic attack, much to my dismay at the time.
I was looking for comments about this movie ❤ also, I’d say that the movie was good, but probably because it hits hard with me as a person with intellectual disabilities, and how I interact with the world. The part with her apologizing to her parents makes me cry almost every time 😢
Yeah I love finding dory. I felt bad for her.
A little curve ball but in the video game Celeste had a panic attack where Madeline and Theo were stuck on a gondala. Theo being the chill guy he is stayed by her and taught her a breathing and it was up to you the player ease Madeline's panic attack.
The best part is that the method involved picturing a feather floating up and down, and towards the end of the game, when Madeline has overcome her fears, the feather is a powerup that lets her fly
The most realistic panic attack was Floor in guardians of the galaxy. (Witnesses Lylla sudden murder and screams "Rocket, Teefs, Floor, GO NOW!" )And she died with those distressful thoughts. I still can't get over this
Wait that’s what happened? I thought Floor was just shot by one of the people Rocket killed in that flashback.
@@LucasHopkins2006Lylla gets shot THEN Floor starts panicking, THEN her and Teefs die. Heavy stuff
Yeah that scene was heavy
thanks for the spoiler (you didn't specify guardians 3 :/ )
Dude spoilers
I love how in the clip of Gumball, when Darwin started doing the snap out of it trope, he literally said something perfect, that he was making it worse.
I’ve had a panic attack before, and, depending on the context, hitting them can and will make it worse. The context to the clip, where they think they’re going to be attacked, is not a good time for it. I love TAWOG and I’d totally recommend watching it if you somehow haven’t yet.
One really good example is in Steven universe “mindful education”. Id definitely check that one out, the entire episode is based on Connie’s stress/anxiety attack about something from school and it’s really good
YESSSSS
That episode actually ended up helping me significantly in the future. Because of the song Garnet sings, I used it and still do for before I go into stressful situations, or to ground myself when I’m having a panic attack or a breakdown. It’s an excellent episode ❤
@@tayloredwards1675 same and that’s why I love it so much
I still use the song from that episode to ground myself. It's so beautiful.
@@tayloredwards1675Anna’s song “the next right thing” helps me with depression episodes that lead to intense suicidal ideation. I wonder how many animated series or movies have songs that help
That is a great idea! I have a anxiety disorder, so I have panic attacks quite a bit now and then.
When I saw Puss have one, I felt like crying and same goes for Chase in Paw Patrol.
I find panic attacks in movies a bit underrated sometimes, but it’s great for character development as well, not just for comedic purposes.
Yeah I felt sad for Chase as well. The fact that a preschooler franchise’s movie had an anxiety attack scene really hit me with their best shot.
@@ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112 same I felt bad for Chase. Never thought a preschool franchise would deal with PTSD (being abandoned in Adventure City) and anxiety attacks.
Thor is WAY too strong for the slap to do anything to him other than get his attention. Rocket is so far beneath Thor that he would probably need to be a little physical just to make him listen for a second. AND that scene even shows that it doesn't work because Thor immediately leaves looking for booze. It's not until his mom talks to him that Thor's panic attack dies down.
Bojack did so many things really well. Even I use the looking around the room technique.
The Owl House also has multiple well-depicted panic attacks
Yep.
Babe, wake up. New Browntable video dropped
I've experienced a panic attack only once. My mother kept telling me to stop being dramatic and to just calm down, but when I did try to, I just panicked more and I was crying because my mom kept yelling at me. I did eventually calm down when I was by myself.
It would be cool to see an artistic, visual representation of a panic or anxiety attack. For example, the walls of the room pulsing in an out with every rapid breath; or the lights straining brighter and brighter, buzzing louder and louder as the anxiety increases.
Not really a panic attack, it's more of an autistic meltdown, but there's a moment where in the show Dead End Paranormal Park, a main character gets one and the artsyle changes to reflect her anxiety.
If you're curious and haven't seen it just type in Norma's meltdown.
I don't really think it started because of Puss in Boots. I think the whole 'animated panic attack' discourse started because of how badly they were presented in Velma and PiB was used as an example of that being handled more appropriately.
Naruto panic attack scene was not only so good but so well portrayed and relatable as it was a pivotal moment where they finally confronted his stress.
Hunters panic attack in hollow mind felt so real
While Puss in Boots is my favorite animated panic attack, Ted Lasso is easily the best in terms of realism and fear because the music mutes and rings, Teds fingers start to curl and he runs. It’s probably the most realistic depiction I’ve ever seen. When his friends find out they support him and talk him through it to calm him down and it’s genuinely great character building
I think the problem is that it comes out of nowhere and really comes off as corny or forced in some shows, it worked for Puss because it tied back to his character arc of believing he was invincible. For other shows it feels almost PSA-like.
9:12 bro summoned the final boss 💀💀💀💀
Its not a film or a show but i found that the panic attack scene in the game Celeste did an incredible job of portraying panic attacks and how to help people who suffer with them. 10/10
I never really knew what panic attacks felt like until I had a medically induced panic attack when I was on a 3 day school trip. I have really bad asthma to the point where I can't breathe sometimes because of the inflammation of my air ways and the mucus in my lungs but it rarely ever gets to that point due to my parents both going through medical school and one of my parents being a full time doctor and knowing how to take care of me if it gets bad. But this time I didn't have my parents, i had my classmates, my teachers and i was 2 hours away from my city. I went to the 3 day school trip sick because I didn't want to miss out on it. On the second day of being there, we had just come back from a really long hike and we were hanging out in the cafeteria. I was coughing a lot because I overexerted myself so instead of taking 2-3 pumps of my inhaler, I took around 8-10. For people who don't have asthma, taking anymore than your regular dose of your inhaler can speed up your heart a lot so after 2 minutes my heart started to race which in turn, caused my lungs to compress and I panicked and that turned into a panic attack. Thankfully, I was sitting with my wonderful friends who almost immediately recognized what was happening and told the teacher.
As someone who likes to claim, they're a panic attack veteran (i havent found any techniques that have helped and ive been having them consistently since i was born.), the puss in boots scene gets me. I mean, if it were me, it would go on for 2 hours, but it was so accurately portrayed. I kinda teared up, man.
The segment where you said you’d be going on tour for absolutely no reason caught me so off guard 💀💀
Fun fact: I have an anxiety disorder and while watching puss in boots in theaters that scene got dangerously close to triggering an anxiety attack for me that’s how realistic it felt. (Realistic anxiety attacks in shows is one of my triggers as it turns out) So hats off to the team for that one because they portrayed how it feels so well.
Panic attacks are not fun, I have had far too many and I genuinely couldn't breathe. My dad made it worse by telling me to "stop crying". He did apologize afterwards but at the time it was awful
Can relate, except I had to apologize to my dad after crying instead of the other way around
The S teir animated scene for me, that actually had a profound effect when I watched it (as someone who suffers from diagnosed severe OCD), is in South Park where Craig is having relationship issues due to Tweak's worsening anxiety and panic atttacks, but then Craig learns/has an epiphany as to how to help Tweak properly get through one and it works. Made me tear up, lol.
It's similar to grounding technique; one of my friends who also struggles with mental health (MDD) used it with me once to great effect, even though I kinda knew what she was doing.... but yeah, South Park of all places can get this stuff right! So wtf Velma?!
Aghghgghgh I can’t remember the name of that episode but it’s so good 😭
@@amazingmrpig6369 Looked it up; it's Season 21 Episode 2 "Put It Down" 😊
My panic attacks are always more internal, so I've personally never seen a panic attack in a film feel "accurate" but I've found some feel true to the general experience of one and what can drive one. The Hollyhock scene is probably the closest a visual representation has felt to my experience though.
Can relate, my panic attacks often overlap with dissociation, because that's how i learned to control them, so from an outside perspective it just looks like i shut down, holding a bag or something close to my chest for stimulation, like a fish eyed doll
When I have anxiety or panic attacks, it’s generally the same. I’m rather quiet, with the different between to two is just how antsy I am during them.
Sometimes people will assume there’s nothing wrong because ‘It’s just heavy breathing’
I have an anxiety disorder, and I never noticed just how many panic attacks I've had throughout my life until this video- wow, I'm really glad that media is getting good at displaying how to help people through things like this, I learned lots of new things in this video too. Thank you!
As someone with chronic anxiety, it really does make me happy with the good representation of Panic Attacks. I do wish for more of a- wider picture of anxiety, but it's really nice to see that they're recognised as something very debilitating and impactful.
I think we can all agree that the worst/ funniest panic attack scene ever put in a movie belongs too...
The woman from Air Plane.
😂😂 see I love that humour because it's SO RIDICULOUS that it makes you realise how stupid and impractical the slap trope actually is in real life practice. And filmed at a time where it was probably still seen as acceptable behaviour.
Kinda like Family Guy; it isn't humor for assholes, it holds a mirror up to them. (Damn, this comment is showing my age hahaha)😅
i don't really have attacks like this, but when i start dissociating or can't stop crying, my favorite way of grounding is the rainbow method. you look around the room for something in each color and concentrate on that color before letting it go and moving onto the next one. it really works for me, so i thought i'd share it here in case someone hasn't heard of that one :)
4:30 yeah as someone whos been slapped when having a panic attack it makes it WORSE. Like so much worse, now i cant breath AND im in pain!
i never thought about how usually panic attack scenes are played for laugh. And that reminded me of the panic attack scene in metalocalypse, in the episode bookklok, where toki has a panic attack onstage and skwisgaar decides to defibrillate him and then toki slaps the defibrillator away causing everyone at the concert thingy to die. i'd put it in A
Paw Patrol The Movie is just a kid's movie.
The kid's movie: 7:40
Be serious dawg
Even tho I love the paw patrol movie, I still LMAO’d at the fact they did better than Velma.
I’m excited for the paw patrol movie sequel!
4:23 I can confirm as someone who was smacked during a fear induced panic attack...
It just makes things worse...
I feel like the portrayal of panic attacks on children's shows are SO incredibly realistic for no reason
Like they can show EXACTLY how it *feels* from an inside perspective but also how it *looks* from an outside perspecitve and im left thinking "why is that so well done??"
That's the case in miraculous, paw patrol, puss in boots and so many others
Its also something done in adult shows and it can be very well done and amazingly portraid like in arcane but i feel in adult shows its more common that theyll pull a velma and put it as a joke or as a way for the character to manipulate others into pitty-ing them and its so annoying
Why is that so switched?
I personally have panic attacks due to pretty severe social + generalized anxiety.
It's honestly a lovely thing to see shows accurately depict them, or at least TRY to accurately depict them, because I seriously can sympathize with the character in the moment. I feel like animated shows are beginning to get better at properly portraying mental health struggles in an accurate and non-stereotypical way, and that's such a wonderful thing because it adds an extra layer of inclusivity that nobody ever really thinks about. With just one character, someone in real life suffering from depression or anxiety can feel just a bit less alone in the world, because they can see that someone- somewhere- has seen similar hardships, and understands their everyday struggle.
But anyways, yeah, Velma sucks.
It's always a good day when Browntable uploads!
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the panic attacks im well known with is the ones that hunter (from the owl house) has. he has two of them (that ik of.) one in “hollow mind” and “labrynth runners.” the characters who interacted with hunter didnt rush with him and knew what to do to help (mostly in labrynth runners. i think that specific episode is the best to show the panic attack)
Hey, it’s me again. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur even had an accurate panic attack too, but S2 spoilers.
After facing off Molecule Man, and as she and The Beyonder were on their way back home, she had some panic attacks about the fact that she “wouldn’t stand a chance against the big bads of the Multiverse”. I heard her heart beating super fast and that scared look in her face…😢
The thing with the “snap out of it” is that it can work. The slap isn’t always necessary but the aspect of getting someone’s attention can work. I’ve had panic attacks and the best thing that could have happened was for someone to hold my attention to help calm me down. But I do agree, hurting someone in a panic attack is not a good idea lol.
It's just such a bad idea bc the panicked is so stressed that they could return that slap even harder in self defense lol
you forgot the scene from The Owl House where Gus calms Hunter down during a panic attack by teaching him a breathing technique.
I had a panic attack in middle school before. I told my teacher about it on the note app on my phone and asked if can go outside for awhile to help with it. My friends went outside though to help me, but they surrounded me and I felt like I was trapped. I didn’t want to be near people for awhile because it honestly made things worse whenever I had a panic attack. I tried to tell them that I wanted to be alone but nothing came out of my mouth. My teacher, called them all in. After they all left I had calmed my self down and did the 3 3 3 rule.
There's a show, Alexa and Katie, where they portray a very accurate attack as well as ways to deal with it. It's very underrated and I loved the series. Throughout the show, they show how she starts developing anxiety and makes it make sense(not too sudden) and the way people support her, even the guy that's considered katie's(the girl who's having the attacks) rival, helps her out and it starts a good relationship. It shows how it starts, and what happens when it happens and I really liked it
Was thinking of this as well!
You did such a nice job explaining these scenarios. I was also shocked to see Chase having an anxiety attack like that too…the fact that a Nick Jr franchise explained an anxiety attack hit me. I felt bad for Chase so deeply. I saw the PAW Patrol movie and loved it a lot. Especially Puss In Boots 2, Miraculous Ladybug, Avengers Endgame, Ralph, Owl House and Gumball. Didn’t see Velma although (and I never will and I don’t wanna!). Other panic attacks that I know are when Dory in Finding Dory had the panic attack when she thought she lost her family but then she did find her family, and when Marinette (Miraculous Ladybug, episode: Derision) was having panic attacks about her flashbacks to Chloe’s pranks.
You did an amazing job explaining everything. Well done.
I am excited for PAW Patrol: The Mighty Movie 2.
You might wanna steer clear of Velma. IMDb says 1.5/10…
Oh! Don’t forget Andi Mack…Jonah went through that stuff too…
@@disneyparksstarwarslover7638 Oh I remember….that was heartbreaking.
sometimes panic attacks are not visible some people look like their spacing out but are actually panicking on the inside like in the first iron man clip.
Ladybug’s panic attack broke my heart
Adrien helped to reassure her and comforted her
It was such a sweet scene that broke me
a fun irl fact: once, in middle school, my friend saw me start semi-freaking out and then thought 'ah yes, this would be a perfect time to slap my friend in the face like they do in the movies' and she did. it did nothing except cause me to slap her back (because why the fuck would someone do that in real life) and my mom almost went down to the principles office to get her in trouble for smacking a student. dont slap people when they're having panic attacks, kids.
HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED
PAW PATROL BETTER THAN SCOOBY DOO????
I love it when the panic said "it's attackin' time" and attacked all over the place
As someone who suffers from panic attacks a lot and loves The owl house Hunter’s panic attack really made me feel some type of way and I think was rlly well done. (Also the way Eda tries to comfort him, I just want her every time I have one now)
YOOOO NARUTO!! That was the first place I ever saw a panic attack depicted in media, its really amazing especially coming from a semi-old shonen anime. He's never belittled for it by the other characters or the narrative, its treated as evidence of his big heart.
7:59 LOL I DIED LAUGHING
I think the “snap out of it” thing comes from the idea that shock will kinda overpower the crushing fear of a panic attack. But what people don’t realize is that shock can be a fear response.
If the way someone is responding to a life threatening situation is with shock, then a shocking action like a hard slap will not overweigh their fear. You wouldn’t suddenly be able to focus if you had a gun to your head and someone slapped you.
In the same line, if someone’s having a panic attack, they are experiencing the full force of the fight or flight response. A hard slap will not pull them out of their fight or flight response because now you’ve given them a REASON to be scared. And if that panic attack was triggered by something (ex: alcohol or fireworks), which it isn’t always, then now their association with that trigger that was originally all in their head is REAL.
So now they have something to direct their **fight** at, or something to run away from. And if you’re the slapper, that thing is YOU.
The Yuri on Ice panic attack was the first one I ever saw animated, and it changed my life honestly 🥲💖
There was a kind of panic attack scene in Bluey where Bandit failed to make a Duck Cake for Bingo, and he just plopped to the ground and curled into ball. He wasn't crying, he wasn't making noises, he wasnt screaming, he was just sitting in silence. Like we alwasy see him as goofy, silly and funny father, and then at this moment, when he wanted to make a great surprise for Bingo, he failed at it, and he just was overwhelmed.
Another great panic attack example is Pablo's portrayals through the first two seasons of The Backyardigans, it's humorous yet also empatethic; the perfect balance using the classic 'snap out of it' method.
And speaking of Bluey, the show got a less drastical way to portray a panic attack; in the episode "Movies", Bluey gets anxious by attending the cinema for the first time, as a scary scene shows up, she has a minor panic attack, her dad notices and kindly offers her to leave the cinema by taking her hand. It's a less conventional depiction, but quite opportune and significantly felicitous; not to mention exceedingly appropiate considering the girl's young age.