Fixing The Biggest Mistake Of My Career.

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  • @Sniper_Cat_71
    @Sniper_Cat_71 Місяць тому +10

    Man, what a beautiful table. You weren't kidding about the lengthy and involved finishing process. I appreciate that your videos are no frills.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      It’s a lot of work but the end result is worth it! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!

  • @zaynmatthews2255
    @zaynmatthews2255 Місяць тому +11

    You are the most detailed, in-depth woodworking youtuber I have ever watched, out of many many many channels I have seen. I appreciate that not only do you put the highest effort into the quality of your products, but you show all of it to us and explain it in a very easily understandable way. You truly make the most gorgeous of high detail products and I cannot believe how underrated your channel is! I hope you keep this up so we can continue to see your amazing journey and learn from you!

    • @earthsensitive
      @earthsensitive Місяць тому +2

      That table would be a bargain at 3X what you charged!

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      That's been my goal all along so I'm glad it's shining through. Thanks for taking the time to watch, be inspired, and support this channel. Really

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      @earthsensitive You are so right.

    • @itoibo4208
      @itoibo4208 Місяць тому

      @@FortressFineWoodworks I love that you show the mistakes. Having worked in a similar field, I know the stress of worrying about ruining an expensive piece and/or having to use up a lot of time to redo work. That part of the job is harder than the actual skill needed to do the piece, at least for me. Stresssss!
      I also enjoyed the finish coating steps. I have very little experience with coating wood, and it is a big part of making an already nice looking design look incredible. I have an old laquer coated brass antique that still has the coating on it after almost 100 years.

  • @jasonbissonnette2331
    @jasonbissonnette2331 Місяць тому +10

    Great save and good for you for putting your money where your mouth is and honoring your warranty. That table is so beautiful and as I have said many times, your attention to detail is second to none!

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you so much for your kind words and continued support! It really means a lot coming from a longtime viewer like you. Honoring the warranty is just part of standing by the work, but hearing your appreciation for the table and the details makes it all worth it. Your encouragement keeps me motivated to keep raising the bar-thank you!

  • @yogi.g
    @yogi.g Місяць тому +8

    I love your videos so much, no matter how many youtube woodworkers exist yours are the only videos i look forward to, thank you for making these.

  • @kevinb6102
    @kevinb6102 Місяць тому +5

    I can’t believe the detail and effort in this table. Unreal. Beautiful

  • @KipringPayne
    @KipringPayne Місяць тому +3

    Really enjoy your videos. You put a lot of effort in your work and your production and it shows.
    I'm glad to see some willing to risk more long format videos.
    Keep at it, you're shining.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for even saying that. The most important thing here is that you're enjoying the videos

  • @kevinb6102
    @kevinb6102 Місяць тому +2

    Your videos are always so good and detailed. Everything about them. Also I thought the table would have been at least a few thousand more. It’s amazing.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      It was all a labor of love more or less. And it gave me an opportunity to show you a lot more details!!!

  • @TheWhittleGreenVanUK
    @TheWhittleGreenVanUK Місяць тому +2

    Nice to see a youtube channel showing that things don't always go right, and also all the work to put it right

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      It's definitely important! Thanks!

    • @TheWhittleGreenVanUK
      @TheWhittleGreenVanUK Місяць тому

      @FortressFineWoodworks been in the trade for too long, but now I'm stuck at home (not my choice) it's great to watch others and get new ideas :)

  • @joelwinter4956
    @joelwinter4956 Місяць тому +1

    Nothing focuses a craftsman like a legitimate customer complaint. I love (truly love) seeing you own the "mistake" and giving us the opportunity to learn from your efforts to correct it. Beautiful work, amazing re-work, and you've given us a great service by posting this.
    You'd have to pay me a lot--and a lot more--to agree to a high-gloss finish--so I'm glad you're out there in the world to take those customers on (who, I'm sure, paid you a fair amount!).

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      I appreciate that. These customers are return customers which makes all the more reason to do a perfect job.

  • @Franco4590
    @Franco4590 29 днів тому +1

    What a beauty. Well done. The room doesn't do it justice.

  • @lacaileline4181
    @lacaileline4181 Місяць тому +3

    Absolutely genius work. Bravo !

  • @Obnoxiouspatriot
    @Obnoxiouspatriot Місяць тому +2

    Let's just hope the next update video is just some more pictures of it looking shiny :)
    I am always impressed by your dedication to figuring it out and getting it right for the customer. I love that mentality!

  • @thomasweber1397
    @thomasweber1397 Місяць тому

    This table is a piece of art 🤩 You are the only woodworker on YT that I’ve subscribed to on Patreon, and I follow quite a few of them 😂

  • @tatehogan5685
    @tatehogan5685 Місяць тому +1

    I wish I could join the patreon, I'm super curious on the additional finishing information you teased. Beautiful work, the owners picked the perfect piece for that room. It was stunning

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      You can always join the Fortress Watchtower for a month or two to watch all of the available videos, then cancel later. No hard feelings. Here's the link if you want to try it www.patreon.com/Fortressfinewoodworks
      Just make sure you join on a desktop or in a browser so apple doesn't charge you their fee.
      And thanks so much!

  • @WeReno
    @WeReno Місяць тому +3

    Great video and build,

  • @jhkaplan
    @jhkaplan 29 днів тому +1

    Love your videos. The attention to detail and perfectionism is second to none, and I always find myself learning tons from each of your videos. Question for you: why build this out of walnut if you're just going to grain fill and stain black? Why not something like Ash - that ebonizes well and the grain still looks sweet when black? Why spend all the money on Walnut only to stain it?

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  17 днів тому

      Thanks a lot! Honestly, walnut looks different than any other wood. It stains well and has a specific look that the client likes. It's up to them, not me

  • @DonsWoodies
    @DonsWoodies Місяць тому +1

    This video should be required viewing for anyone who wonders why custom furniture costs more than factory made stuff. Amazing. I wasn't surprised at the JB Weld being the one that worked, since I think that stuff would stick Teflon to an ice cube.

  • @billwendt9571
    @billwendt9571 Місяць тому +2

    Having screwed myself quoting previous jobs, I learned to grossly over-estimate my labor time then multiply that figure by 3 before submitting the final price. Seems like you're on the journey to figuring that out. Like you, I did warranty repairs / break fix if I was at fault. Never fun, but necessary to maintain one's reputation. I respect your honor in doing the same for your clients.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      This was a year ago so I've learned since. Sounds like you know whats up

  • @Hichamhasan
    @Hichamhasan Місяць тому +2

    You've defended your reputation by honoring the warranty, and that, in my book, is a very good compensation for time and cost spent on the repair.
    Respect,
    👍

  • @bpooboi
    @bpooboi Місяць тому +2

    God i love the feeling of joining a good hardwood. Especially the feeling of the plainer grabbing it

  • @paulpalmer9970
    @paulpalmer9970 Місяць тому +1

    What a fantastic,beautiful table, and don’t forget to price the next one properly,

  • @Alex-merfy
    @Alex-merfy Місяць тому +4

    Такой стол в оригинале сделали из плиты МДФ, покрытой шпоном ореха, чтобы избежать проблем, которые возникли у вас. Делать стол из массива с деталями, имеющими перпендикулярное направление волокон дерева можно, но без гарантии, что подобных проблем не возникнет от расширения дерева

  • @coolabahwoodworking
    @coolabahwoodworking Місяць тому +3

    Man hurts my heart to see something. Things happen but always hard for the business. Great fix and the table is just stunning.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      It’s tough to have something like this happen but that’s why I make videos so others don’t have to make the same mistakes.

  • @billwendt9571
    @billwendt9571 Місяць тому +2

    It's SOOoo PAINFUL watching you try different finishes / epoxies on the brass inlays. I've been there with my own projects and commiserate with your frustrations. HOWEVER, I've learned to TEST, TEST, TEST everything unknown and NOT experiment on my highly valuable projects (Hoping for the best outcome which almost never happens due to Murphy's Law). Great table video (even with the pain). Keep it up!

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      Well the thing I noticed is I would do a test on a piece of brass, get good results, then do it on the table and it would fail! Ridiculous sometimes

  • @Jimbo5063
    @Jimbo5063 6 днів тому

    What a beautiful table. That is a piece of art. Even if you didn’t price the job correctly, you created an heirloom and that is it’s own reward..

  • @tonymallis2185
    @tonymallis2185 Місяць тому +1

    wow! just wow!

  • @billm4560
    @billm4560 Місяць тому +2

    What beautiful table you made Cory! 👍🏻 I know you had problems but as always you work them out! Did you get that Walnut local or did you have to order it? I’ve been looking for some for a project I have coming up! Thank you for sharing your awesome work! Cheers

  • @1deerndingo
    @1deerndingo Місяць тому +1

    My sympathies go out to you, but very professional fix.

  • @TheSMEAC
    @TheSMEAC Місяць тому +1

    Maybe you’ll consider hide glue in specific areas in the future? I’m a hobbyist, so I may just be a rube in your world; but I don’t just use hide glue in Windsor chairs and children’s furniture. I use it in every application where it will work except for panels or if it’s in a bombproof sized joint where no cross grain or mixing species is at play. Additionally, anything that’s an heirloom quality build or with which I think the owner will treat it that way. I know it’d be obvious for you a lot of the time to use and it wouldn’t have fixed the finish contraction issue with the brass, but maybe for breadboards?🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @colinnicol9447
    @colinnicol9447 Місяць тому +1

    Instead of the thin brass plate you should have purchased brass square rod 10mm x 10mm then routered 10mm deep in to the breadboard. You could then drilled spaced holes along the lenght of the brass rod and attached it with countersink brass screws. When the breadboard is pushed against the table the screws will be hidden.

  • @TaylerMade
    @TaylerMade Місяць тому +2

    i am now retired, but i feel your pain on this one. some commissions leave you feeling wow its great, but did i make any money on it. i have to admit i have always hated bread board ends due to movement ruining the look. in nz we use a lot of remu which is a beautiful wood. but it will move on you.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      I agree. I think it's genius because it keeps the table flat but the ends never line up after it leaves the shop. Damn breadboard ends.

  • @kumikokraft
    @kumikokraft Місяць тому

    Great build, easily 2-4x increase in price needed. Craftsmanship - priceless!

  • @harrisric128
    @harrisric128 Місяць тому +5

    $8500 for this level of craftsmanship is craziness... there is no way that's sustainable, even with any revenue you get from the videos

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +2

      You're right, but when this video series first came out a year ago, it kick started my channel. But now I know how to price my furniture. Mistakes happen

    • @heruvey87
      @heruvey87 Місяць тому +1

      this is exactly why i dont build tables theres just no way, and people would still think its expensive when it should of cost 2x that .

  • @mattelias721
    @mattelias721 Місяць тому +1

    I've been wondering where you've been... now I know. Wow. Glad you included the past content, because if I didn't mention it before, yeah, JB Weld is actually a bulletproof product. I have the same two bottles in my shop. Tip: put a little less hardener into the mix and it will extend your open time... not much less, but a little. I also caught the shot of you ovalling out your breadboard end holes with the router bit chucked into your drill - baller move.
    This had to be demoralizing, but as others have said below, you made things right and stood by your word. That's the honorable thing to do, and I respect the s**t out of that. I also highly value your willingness to show every mistake and how you fix it. I don't know about others, but I've learned so much from this channel for that reason. Don't change.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      You're the man dude. UA-cam also says that you're one of my most dedicated viewers and commenters! And I definitely agree. Either you take notes throughout the video to comment later, or you have a damn good memory. Thanks for the jb weld tip.

    • @mattelias721
      @mattelias721 Місяць тому

      @@FortressFineWoodworks I may have been with you/your channel from inception, not sure, but I enjoy the hell out of it.
      My brain - for better or worse - is wired to notice things. And yeah, I actually do take notes. My take is, if you took the time to film and edit what you do, I can take a second or two and give you some (hopefully) good feedback.
      I mean, if you prefer, I can just troll the s**t out of you...

  • @colingilman72
    @colingilman72 Місяць тому +1

    20:40 "...but it's a BIG two inches" is what I keep telling myself

  • @inmyimage1081
    @inmyimage1081 24 дні тому +1

    Kudos for putting so much work into a warranty repair, did you end up losing money on it? Also, did you try using plain old lacquer on the brass? It’s the only coating I’ve heard of being used on brass but I don’t have any experience with using or protecting brass.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  17 днів тому +1

      I definitely didn't make any money, but I learned some damn good lessons. Lacquer seems to have about the same adhesion as the urethane.

    • @inmyimage1081
      @inmyimage1081 17 днів тому

      @ You definitely put the things you have learned to work. I think you may be the only woodworking youtuber i subscribe to who actually do client work consistently. Next closest is probably Keith Johnson, the key difference between you and everyone else is the extra work you put into finishing vs just finishing everything with some hard wax oil and saying here you go.

  • @tomleed2818
    @tomleed2818 Місяць тому +1

    Another Great Show. Where do you buy your emblems? Thanks

  • @chrisstipe3031
    @chrisstipe3031 23 дні тому +1

    This table is amazing, such incredible work! Don’t hate me….. why not use veneer so movement isn’t an issue?

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  17 днів тому

      Thank you! That's a fair question. This client specifically wanted a solid wood table. And the only way to veneer a table is by using mdf underneath. She didn't want that.

  • @ColeSpolaric
    @ColeSpolaric Місяць тому +1

    The offset hole is called a draw bore.

  • @OreoBambino
    @OreoBambino Місяць тому +1

    Zapon Lacquer should work on brass

  • @filipandric8069
    @filipandric8069 Місяць тому +1

    Why didnt you try a ca coat on bras?

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      If you mean a superglue coat, I did try that off camera on a test piece.

  • @Auroniar.
    @Auroniar. Місяць тому +1

    i've watched the whole thing now. What i don't understand is, why do you really want to paint the whole table even tho you cut the ends by Brass. if you'd work on those 3 parts individual pieces, you'd have waaay less problems over this long period.
    Also it seems you just used those 2 Materials you know. there are glues out there, where you could have glued the Brass in one session without problems.
    Megiuars are good products, but if you got the customer version, it's not the same as the professionals use.
    at least you cut the Brass in the end cause your problem would have come again, but neitherless, the brass should have gotten just normal 2k Clearcoat and not the same as the wood. Polishing in the end would still be possible.
    but what i'd really like to know, before you made the clear coat on the brass and wood, did you degrease the surface or just by sandpaper ?

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      I purposely finished everything together to ensure it would be flush in the end. If i finish everything seperately, the breadboards would likely be at a different height than the table.
      I lightly wiped the table, but I should've used naptha like I did before the Carbon Method at the end.

  • @darrenlesueur4785
    @darrenlesueur4785 Місяць тому +1

    I gues we know why they used venner on the inspiration piece . I don't know why people want a gloss finish . It's to nice to use the table .

  • @ThaFlowmasterBeats
    @ThaFlowmasterBeats Місяць тому +1

    fuckin mind blowin broski fr, more than inspiring, pushes the boundaries between inspiring and wanting to give up lmao jk but deff has that realization of never being anywhere close to the stuff u do... love your channel production, and love your projects bro, keep grindin not that you even need to anymore im sure, so now its not grindin, its daily gratifying, lol nothing but blessings to you and your family, and a toast to your future and everything that envelopes.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      Wow that was very nice thank you. For real though, it even pushed the boundaries between inspiring and wanting to quit myself. But that's the fine line where growth really happens

  • @bpooboi
    @bpooboi Місяць тому +4

    Dude. Using those plastic horses on that 200+ lb table is wild

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      I know it looks risky, but each pair holds 800 pounds. I have a stack of plywood in my shop that weighs 1800lbs and it sits on 4 sets of those horses.

  • @jeffreytgilbert
    @jeffreytgilbert Місяць тому +1

    Excuse me sir, but the last step after all steps are exhausted, is always to say a prayer to all the gods that the table is touched by mortal hands.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      Trust me... I always pray to the wood gods when I deliver a product of such caliber.

    • @jeffreytgilbert
      @jeffreytgilbert Місяць тому

      @@FortressFineWoodworksit is the Lamborghini of walnut tables for sure. When you originally posted, i swear i said out loud to myself, “wait, why is he accounting for wood movement and then spraying finish onto the brass.” Having now watched all of the work you put into fixing this, I hope you’ve not repeated the mistake again.
      The agony of burning through a coat of finish while meticulously buffing poly and top coat to a high gloss is the ultimate demoralizer, but having to refinish a table twice because of wood movement would be brutal.
      If it happens again, consider peeling off the brass, bonding two layers of it together, thickness sanding it at the drum sander so it’s level with the top coat, then gluing it back down and only sanding it and spraying a thin protective coating over it of museum grade brass finish. It may not be as flawless in the short term, but you’d avoid the issues in the long term with the finish turning into bacon

  • @darrenlesueur4785
    @darrenlesueur4785 Місяць тому +1

    Customer put a silicone based polish on that table . That cause your finished to fish eye

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      Well whatever they used, it made the gloss horrible in one year flat.

  • @realdan1
    @realdan1 Місяць тому +1

    Doing business with rich people is less headache and stress than those less fortunate.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      @realdan1 eh they have quite high standards and it's pretty common that the people with the deepest pockets have the shortest arms

  • @johnwolgemuth5889
    @johnwolgemuth5889 Місяць тому +1

    this is where you need a CNC polisher...

  • @stlwoodworking
    @stlwoodworking Місяць тому +1

    Great fix. Epoxy to the rescue lol

  • @CrPio167
    @CrPio167 Місяць тому +1

    I guess i just don't get the walnut obsession. Unless its a highly figured slab, TO ME, walnut is a dull color and played out. Add black epoxy and stereotype acheived!
    With that said, a little brass inlay at least added some original flair. Idk, just feels like a run of the mill build and ended up with little to no profit. Guess im just burned out wayching walnut and river/black epoxy tables.
    Anyone have suggestions on channels with unique or original builds?

    • @CrPio167
      @CrPio167 Місяць тому +1

      Also, what is the functional purpose of having a tabletop that thick? Besides opulence, just seems like it's built to crack and shift significantly over a few years time.

    • @mattelias721
      @mattelias721 Місяць тому +1

      Dude, I can't disagree with the whole YT obsession with walnut taken in a general sense. That said, Corey did state in his first (of now 4) videos that he was matching the client's other furniture, so that led him to the material, the thickness, and the orbital-reentry-capable finish.
      BTW, I'm not trying to troll you. Just explaining.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      Check out some of my other content. I made some unique nightstands in this video ua-cam.com/video/dmRTGYJQHAo/v-deo.html and a really cool accent unit in this video ua-cam.com/video/zebduTlHCyg/v-deo.html

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      @CrPio167 The thicker it is, the more stable. If it were thinner, it would need supportive aprons underneath and a different base design.

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      Oh @mattelias721 knows his stuff. He's been a viewer since the beginning. I would trust him.

  • @tcarable
    @tcarable Місяць тому +2

    You lost your a**, but you made an incredibly good product. So hopefully your next client will be more profitable for you

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +1

      Sometimes you have to price things a little cheaper to ensure you get the job, further ensuring you get the experience needed to NAIL the next one!

  • @dpmeyer4867
    @dpmeyer4867 12 днів тому +1

    Wow

  • @funnyguy55able
    @funnyguy55able Місяць тому +14

    so clients got a $30K table for $8500 bucks and you made.... nothing??

    • @Wiggles4life
      @Wiggles4life Місяць тому

      My thoughts exactly. No way to make money at that price

    • @TheIronSavior
      @TheIronSavior Місяць тому +4

      Made that sweet sweet content

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому +14

      Well I got $5 an hour, some good learning lessons, and a damn good video series so I guess it's up to your interpretation

    • @Wiggles4life
      @Wiggles4life Місяць тому

      @ loved the video for sure!

    • @paulcapirchio4378
      @paulcapirchio4378 24 дні тому

      I think every carpenter/woodworker experiences this at some point in their career.

  • @MrLanceDaily
    @MrLanceDaily Місяць тому +1

    Ever thought of making some bongos?

  • @martinvrac7618
    @martinvrac7618 2 дні тому

    OMG your wonderful ocd serves you well

  • @paulhopkins1905
    @paulhopkins1905 Місяць тому +1

    Fescult cutting compound? 😂😂😂😂😂 Do doubt the 3M stuff from an auto paint supplier is better for less money

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      I'm in the process of trying many different types. There were some complaints about the 3m stuff so I decided to try the festool line.

    • @paulhopkins1905
      @paulhopkins1905 Місяць тому

      @@FortressFineWoodworks I mean, its been used in autobody for decades. I've used the perfect-it line on guitars for years. Literally, there is nothing better.

  • @colinnicol9447
    @colinnicol9447 Місяць тому +1

    It’s not the long sleeve shirt you need, it’s the gloves you were wearing when shoving through the brass plate. One thread snag on the gloves close to that saw blade and no fingers. That was cringing to watch.

  • @w.w.2007
    @w.w.2007 Місяць тому +1

    first

  • @paulhopkins1905
    @paulhopkins1905 Місяць тому +1

    Fescult cutting compound? 😂😂😂😂😂 Do doubt the 3M stuff from an auto paint supplier is better for less money. I guess it worked, the table looks great, but it always amazes me how youtubers can always incorporate every random fescult product

  • @thomlipiczky9021
    @thomlipiczky9021 Місяць тому +1

    "It works if you work it". (Where have we heard that before? ) Well, work it! You're worth it! I certainly hope you charged $53,058,947 for this job. Thanks, Cory!

    • @FortressFineWoodworks
      @FortressFineWoodworks  Місяць тому

      Haha glad you got the gesture! I wish I priced it that high. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!

  • @Jack-es9xq
    @Jack-es9xq Місяць тому +1

    something for the algorithm because honestly I don't know where to start... a legacy project for sure.