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I concur. Toyota is still a better overall truck, however, I will never overpay. Resale value? If you buy a Toyota, reselling is not a thought. I have 22 Off-road and I'll drive until the wheels fall off.
I got my Canyon At4 in the Desert sand metallic about a month ago and man it's one of the nicest midsize trucks you can get I've been eyeing midsize trucks for a while now and nothing was as nice and good looking like the Canyon and Colorado. I come from boosted cars I've owned a Civic si and a 240sx and man this Canyon has everything i would want in a truck! power, looks, comfortability. Its a Neck Breaker i seen so many people just stare I've actually had two encounters with people on the Freeway that made me roll my window down to tell me how nice of a truck it It is, i have got so many thumps up driving around town and to work. I say if you're looking for a Canyon it's amazing the interior was what sold me too super beautiful. I say get one if you're looking for a midsize truck you won't regret it.
You will love it. I have a 2023 and after a year of ownership and zero problems with mine, I still look forward to driving it to work everyday. I have the Elevation trim with the convenience pkg, preferred pkg, towing pkg, factory sprayed,bed liner and also ordered it with the step rails. I didn't need 4wd but being a GMC, it still came with the off road suspension and all terrain tires. It's a great handling and quietly comfortable ride that gets alot of complements.
@@twothree1234 I've had it for about a month now. Not overly crazy about it so far. Off the road it's great. Looks are also great. What I don't like. Has no light switch, everything is auto. Doesn't hold any lighting memory. I like driving with the fog lights, but you have to turn them on through the info/radio with multiple steps. Everything works through the center screen with 2 to 5 pushes to do the simplest of things... another downer. It has NO PULLING POWER!!! Plenty of engine but no weight to put it to use. Hooked onto my 28 ft boat to move it around the yard and I couldn't break it loose with the truck on pavement any the boat in the grass. All 4 tire just squalled and spun the truck in slow arcs. My friends Nissan Armada pulled it without any problems. Pulling stuck ppl at the beach is the same... All wheel spin & going nowhere, kinda embarrassing. Gonna try and keep my milage under 10k and trade in in on the new 2025 Ramcharger. Also, the economy is atrocious for this size truck! Only 13-15 intown and 19-22 on the hwy. if I stay out of the turbo. With the turbo I can see single digits on EPA. Sorry about the late response, but I wanted to get a feel for the truck before responding. Hope you didn't buy it.
@stevengibson2251 jeeshh, how much does your boat and trailer weigh? There is no way I would pull any 28 ft boat with a mid sized truck, period. That's a job for a 1500 or above to do. As far as lights go, I just keep mine on automatic mode and I have only needed fog lights 2 times in 15 months. I always use the info screen before I leave my driveway, and if there is fog in my area, then I turn them on and it doesn't take but a few seconds. I average about 18 mpg combined mileage with my 2023 Canyon. It's not great, but I can live with it. After all, I am not very hard to please unlike some people. You say this truck doesn't have much weight and that it impedes its towing ability, wow, never heard that complaint before. I thought these trucks were a bit on the heavy side since they start at 4400 lbs and a Sierra 1500 starts at 4500 lbs and both trucks weigh more as you go up to more premium trim levels, ect.
@@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Boat weighs 12,158. Don't know how much the trailer weighs, It's on a 35' Aluminum Triple Axel. Dad's Toyota towed it from Florida to Texas without any problems. It's too much for the Canyon but a Nissan Armada (nearly identical in size) moves it around the yard very easy.
I agree… better horsepower, torque and towing capacity. I will accept a lower resale when I will pay way less upfront and better equipped. After 2 Toyotas, I am jumping ship !!! Thank you Toyota
Hey GMC. The Canyon styling is a home run. Lose the reflectors on the fenders. Bring back the manual headlight switch, and get rid of the white in the interior! How about some carbon fiber? It would be cool if you offered a V6, and a 3.0 diesel. And definitely get rid of the plastic oil pan! How about losing the hood rod? I am in the market for a truck, and test drove the AT4X this weekend. If the little 2.7 L Turbo is as good as you say, how about a better warrantee? Then I would consider buying one.
I think GMC has a winner here with this truck if has solid quality then it really should put a pause to any Toyota buyers because as this is equipped it is way nicer and more affordable. I'm a Ford fan but I might have to go take one of these for a test drive. Excellent review, you covered just about everything. I am surprised they gave you a nice alloy for a spare too... maybe they didn't have steelies.
It took me 5 months for mine to get allocated, hopefully it’s not that long for you. They were having some issues for a while, I think they are getting better. I couldn’t get mine in February when I was supposed to get it allocated because of leather seats. But it has finally been allocated and they are building it now!
I have a 2016 Colorado with diesel that I bought new. Has been an excellent truck. But I saw a silver Canyon today and I gotta say it was a very nice truck - not sure what the trim level was though. Might need to trade mine in.
The new Tacomas did this too. Why are you putting hard plastic where most people put their elbow on top of the door while they're driving? Can you give the nice soft touch material to the dashboard the place I touched the least. Also I'm 52 years old I've never rolled all of my windows down at one time in my life why would I need a button dedicated just to that? Last there's got to be a good way to bypass the auto start-stop right? I don't want to have to throw that switch every time I start the car.
i wish you were able to take it for a test drive and see how the interior comfort ride is but upset they stuck the bose on that the summit white and not the Sand Dune metallic one >.
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald which one would you choose same specs minus 1 or 2 features. the Chevy ZR2 or GMC CANYON AT4 both same desert sand color both leather cooled and heated seats
I just bought a 2024 Canyon two weeks ago and you are 100% correct about it being cramped and narrow. It has definitely been an adjustment for me. I stepped down from a 2018 Sierra because of the notorious transmission troubles and even before that I had a Ford Fusion which had more leg room than the Canyon and it wasn't really even close. But overall, I think it is a nice ride so far.
Very nice truck, and I am looking at trading my GMC Full size Denali Carbon Pro pickup with a 6.2 Gas. But my biggest question is, why is my truck getting damn close to the same gas millage as this 2.7 turbo? Does not add up, especially this day and age and the technology out there. This truck should be making my truck look bad in the fuel mileage dept.
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald I hear you, so why take away proven engines that did the job, ran equivalent if not better with gas millage? As before in my conversation, going with this truck is actually a loss to me. I loose the pulling power I had, the power on demand, etc. The Toyota Tacoma, the Nissan pickup with the V6 are doing better fuel millage. Anyway, each to their own, but when I seen the fuel millage, and if I stick with GM , I will stay with a full size. My opinion, I think an option choice motor for this truck should have been the small diesel they are using in the half ton. Thanks for the reply.
i read on the toyota website that an option is available for "a factory installed lift kit." Do you know any details of what that lift is ? They literally provide 0 details to the kit. IS it just a front leveling kit? Thanks man!
I love the ruler on the tailgate. Now when myself & all my buddies go on our yearly fishing trips we can get drunk pull out our junk & measure up to see who has the biggest beef rocket 🚀 brah 👍
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald Great, cause I was about to go buy a 22 at4 but it seemed that the new AT4s dropped some features. No heated steering wheel and some other things. I guess they want more add on money haha
I got my 24’ canyon at4 in black about two months ago and I had a 23’ chevy Colorado trail boss in white which got hit by a drunk driver and there was frame damage so it got totaled out, hence why I bought a new 24 GMC canyon at4. I have driven the hell out of both and I loved my chevy but the canyon at4 is a whole other level. I love this truck. Super capable. Perfect for what I do for work, and taking the gf out for some dinner, or hauling ass out of town when society collapses. I’ve got 18” wheels and I think I may put some 35’s on it eventually but this shit is too tight. Worth every penny.
Follow up, this was a response to one, but info for all. Just my personal opinion and observations, but decide wisely; I've had it for about a month now. Not overly crazy about it so far. Off the road it's great. Looks are also great. What I don't like. Has no light switch, everything is auto. Doesn't hold any lighting memory. I like driving with the fog lights, but you have to turn them on through the info/radio with multiple steps. Everything works through the center screen with 2 to 5 pushes to do the simplest of things... another downer. It has NO PULLING POWER!!! Plenty of engine but no weight to put it to use. Hooked onto my 28 ft boat to move it around the yard and I couldn't break it loose with the truck on pavement any the boat in the grass. All 4 tire just squalled and spun the truck in slow arcs. My friends Nissan Armada pulled it without any problems. Pulling stuck ppl at the beach is the same... All wheel spin & going nowhere, kinda embarrassing. Gonna try and keep my milage under 10k and trade in in on the new 2025 Ramcharger. Also, the economy is atrocious for this size truck! Only 13-15 intown and 19-22 on the hwy. if I stay out of the turbo. With the turbo I can see single digits on EPA. Sorry about the late response, but I wanted to get a feel for the truck before responding. Hope you didn't buy it.
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You pay about $10,000 more for a Toyota with equivalent features. My 2023 Colorado is actually listed on KBB for only $1500 less than I paid after 7 months of ownership.
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I’m a Toyota owner but this will be my next truck because I can get more options for less. GMC has done a great job with these new midsize trucks.
I agree!
Your resale value will be drastically less, hope all your gadgets last and do go out like TFL’s did.
@@adamwilson2616 who cares Toyotas are outdated
@@jessepoorman2621 obviously you cared enough to comment, Toyotas last and gave great resale, better that UAW built trash!
I concur. Toyota is still a better overall truck, however, I will never overpay. Resale value? If you buy a Toyota, reselling is not a thought. I have 22 Off-road and I'll drive until the wheels fall off.
I got my Canyon At4 in the Desert sand metallic about a month ago and man it's one of the nicest midsize trucks you can get I've been eyeing midsize trucks for a while now and nothing was as nice and good looking like the Canyon and Colorado. I come from boosted cars I've owned a Civic si and a 240sx and man this Canyon has everything i would want in a truck! power, looks, comfortability. Its a Neck Breaker i seen so many people just stare I've actually had two encounters with people on the Freeway that made me roll my window down to tell me how nice of a truck it It is, i have got so many thumps up driving around town and to work. I say if you're looking for a Canyon it's amazing the interior was what sold me too super beautiful. I say get one if you're looking for a midsize truck you won't regret it.
Just bought this truck in the premium package. Picking it up in the morning.
So how was it? Im planning on getting one.
You will love it. I have a 2023 and after a year of ownership and zero problems with mine, I still look forward to driving it to work everyday. I have the Elevation trim with the convenience pkg, preferred pkg, towing pkg, factory sprayed,bed liner and also ordered it with the step rails. I didn't need 4wd but being a GMC, it still came with the off road suspension and all terrain tires. It's a great handling and quietly comfortable ride that gets alot of complements.
@@twothree1234 I've had it for about a month now. Not overly crazy about it so far. Off the road it's great. Looks are also great.
What I don't like. Has no light switch, everything is auto. Doesn't hold any lighting memory. I like driving with the fog lights, but you have to turn them on through the info/radio with multiple steps.
Everything works through the center screen with 2 to 5 pushes to do the simplest of things... another downer.
It has NO PULLING POWER!!! Plenty of engine but no weight to put it to use. Hooked onto my 28 ft boat to move it around the yard and I couldn't break it loose with the truck on pavement any the boat in the grass. All 4 tire just squalled and spun the truck in slow arcs. My friends Nissan Armada pulled it without any problems. Pulling stuck ppl at the beach is the same... All wheel spin & going nowhere, kinda embarrassing.
Gonna try and keep my milage under 10k and trade in in on the new 2025 Ramcharger.
Also, the economy is atrocious for this size truck! Only 13-15 intown and 19-22 on the hwy. if I stay out of the turbo. With the turbo I can see single digits on EPA.
Sorry about the late response, but I wanted to get a feel for the truck before responding. Hope you didn't buy it.
@stevengibson2251 jeeshh, how much does your boat and trailer weigh? There is no way I would pull any 28 ft boat with a mid sized truck, period. That's a job for a 1500 or above to do. As far as lights go, I just keep mine on automatic mode and I have only needed fog lights 2 times in 15 months. I always use the info screen before I leave my driveway, and if there is fog in my area, then I turn them on and it doesn't take but a few seconds. I average about 18 mpg combined mileage with my 2023 Canyon. It's not great, but I can live with it. After all, I am not very hard to please unlike some people. You say this truck doesn't have much weight and that it impedes its towing ability, wow, never heard that complaint before. I thought these trucks were a bit on the heavy side since they start at 4400 lbs and a Sierra 1500 starts at 4500 lbs and both trucks weigh more as you go up to more premium trim levels, ect.
@@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Boat weighs 12,158. Don't know how much the trailer weighs, It's on a 35' Aluminum Triple Axel. Dad's Toyota towed it from Florida to Texas without any problems. It's too much for the Canyon but a Nissan Armada (nearly identical in size) moves it around the yard very easy.
I agree… better horsepower, torque and towing capacity. I will accept a lower resale when I will pay way less upfront and better equipped. After 2 Toyotas, I am jumping ship !!! Thank you Toyota
Hey GMC. The Canyon styling is a home run. Lose the reflectors on the fenders. Bring back the manual headlight switch, and get rid of the white in the interior! How about some carbon fiber? It would be cool if you offered a V6, and a 3.0 diesel. And definitely get rid of the plastic oil pan! How about losing the hood rod? I am in the market for a truck, and test drove the AT4X this weekend. If the little 2.7 L Turbo is as good as you say, how about a better warrantee?
Then I would consider buying one.
Just purchased the 2024 AT4,love it
I ABSOLUTELY love my 2024 AT4!!!
Over what has come out, I feel this almost the perfect look and size truck for my needs.looks so rugged! Yup I'm thinking of getting this.
Just ordered mine today.
Hey Josh. That’s NOT leather. It’s car-tech on the seats doors and trim.
Dang good review. Very straight to the point and extremely informative. One of the best reviews I’ve ever seen of any vehicle. 👏👏👏
Thank you!
I will keep my 22 Frontier. Let’s go V-6!!!!!!!
The perfect truck would be this with the Frontiers V-6 in it.
With a super charged, 4.0 liter inline 6 cylinder engine, I would consider this truck.
@@cheesemouse7774why would you want a supercharger instead of a turbocharger?
Great review! You are clearly knowledgeable in all the features
Thank you!
I think GMC has a winner here with this truck if has solid quality then it really should put a pause to any Toyota buyers because as this is equipped it is way nicer and more affordable. I'm a Ford fan but I might have to go take one of these for a test drive. Excellent review, you covered just about everything. I am surprised they gave you a nice alloy for a spare too... maybe they didn't have steelies.
absolutely love mine
You got it wrong next to turn signal light is headlight not the fog lights,fog light are the ones on the bottom over all good video
best looking mid sized truck hands down
this has gotta be the the nicest looking midsize in 2024
beautiful rig!!
I ordered one last week waiting on Gm to accept the allocation for dealer order
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It took me 5 months for mine to get allocated, hopefully it’s not that long for you. They were having some issues for a while, I think they are getting better. I couldn’t get mine in February when I was supposed to get it allocated because of leather seats. But it has finally been allocated and they are building it now!
That’s the one I want! 😅
I have a 2016 Colorado with diesel that I bought new. Has been an excellent truck. But I saw a silver Canyon today and I gotta say it was a very nice truck - not sure what the trim level was though. Might need to trade mine in.
very nice review my guy
Thanks!
The new Tacomas did this too. Why are you putting hard plastic where most people put their elbow on top of the door while they're driving? Can you give the nice soft touch material to the dashboard the place I touched the least. Also I'm 52 years old I've never rolled all of my windows down at one time in my life why would I need a button dedicated just to that? Last there's got to be a good way to bypass the auto start-stop right? I don't want to have to throw that switch every time I start the car.
No garage door programming?
One these truck youtube channels need to do a 10year after purchase reviews. That how long I usually keep my vehicles
love the thumbnail
Thank you!
It boggles me how 24 tacomas atleast TRD sport/offroad dont even include rear vents or USB ports ...
I wish it came with the longer bed as the tacoma. I need a longer bed, so sticking to full size Sierra for now.
i wish you were able to take it for a test drive and see how the interior comfort ride is but upset they stuck the bose on that the summit white and not the Sand Dune metallic one >.
They drive great!
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald which one would you choose same specs minus 1 or 2 features. the Chevy ZR2 or GMC CANYON AT4 both same desert sand color both leather cooled and heated seats
@@alexanderradec ZR2 all the way
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald thanks man and look forward to seeing you test drive soon hopefully canyon and Zr2 2024
Would you do a test drive review.
How does it have under body cameras if its not a at4x
Is very nice, but when I sat on one at the auto show is way too cramped. I'm 6'1 and is too narrow inside.
I just bought a 2024 Canyon two weeks ago and you are 100% correct about it being cramped and narrow. It has definitely been an adjustment for me. I stepped down from a 2018 Sierra because of the notorious transmission troubles and even before that I had a Ford Fusion which had more leg room than the Canyon and it wasn't really even close. But overall, I think it is a nice ride so far.
Will the wireless charger. Charge a lot of. The bigger smartphones. On the market
Very nice truck, and I am looking at trading my GMC Full size Denali Carbon Pro pickup with a 6.2 Gas. But my biggest question is, why is my truck getting damn close to the same gas millage as this 2.7 turbo? Does not add up, especially this day and age and the technology out there. This truck should be making my truck look bad in the fuel mileage dept.
Trucks just have poor aerodynamics for fuel mileage, the only way to achieve higher MPGs is with a hybrid system or a lower power output
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald I hear you, so why take away proven engines that did the job, ran equivalent if not better with gas millage? As before in my conversation, going with this truck is actually a loss to me. I loose the pulling power I had, the power on demand, etc. The Toyota Tacoma, the Nissan pickup with the V6 are doing better fuel millage. Anyway, each to their own, but when I seen the fuel millage, and if I stick with GM , I will stay with a full size. My opinion, I think an option choice motor for this truck should have been the small diesel they are using in the half ton. Thanks for the reply.
i read on the toyota website that an option is available for "a factory installed lift kit." Do you know any details of what that lift is ? They literally provide 0 details to the kit. IS it just a front leveling kit? Thanks man!
How did you get those wheels with the suspension lift? Online if I choose the lift kit it forces me to have the 18" wheels.
If you chose the lift kit on the online configurator, it's in addition to the lift it comes with as standard from factory.
If you chose the lift kit on the online configurator, it's in addition to the lift it comes with as standard from factory.
Can you get this at4 with the bumper with the winch and light bar on it? If not know where you can buy those?
That's the AT4X AEV, average price of $70k and most you have to order
Got my AT4 2 weeks ago and its already in the shop for the headlight flutter. Anyone else?
Good looking truck, sure would love a v6 in it. Oh well…Nissan here I come
Curious if the mirrors are heated?
Yes. With the Convenience pkg. In the Elevation trim, but it might be a standard option in the At4 trim level.
Does it have remote start
Looks like a full-sized spare (and alloy wheel!) to me? 4:15
You pointed at the headlights calling them the fog lights. 🤣
😂
Dealer price?
unlike Ford who glues a sticker that reads Raptor, GMC goes the extra mile by adding 3d emblems that read Canyon.
No garage door homelink?
Doesn’t look like it!
I have that in my other vehicle and have never even set it up lol. Just push my opener button.
Once my Tacoma is very old I may trade it in for one but I’m keeping my 2023 Tacoma v6 until it falls apart many many miles from now
There is not "an extra set of fog lights" and it is a full size spare tire.
Thanks!!!
What size wheels???
Agree … this latest generation puts Chevy/GMC in top spot for me. Ranger is 2nd & Tacoma 3rd.
I love the ruler on the tailgate. Now when myself & all my buddies go on our yearly fishing trips we can get drunk pull out our junk & measure up to see who has the biggest beef rocket 🚀 brah 👍
LMAO
Do the skid plates come standard on the '24 AT4?
Yes
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald Great, cause I was about to go buy a 22 at4 but it seemed that the new AT4s dropped some features. No heated steering wheel and some other things. I guess they want more add on money haha
I got my 24’ canyon at4 in black about two months ago and I had a 23’ chevy Colorado trail boss in white which got hit by a drunk driver and there was frame damage so it got totaled out, hence why I bought a new 24 GMC canyon at4. I have driven the hell out of both and I loved my chevy but the canyon at4 is a whole other level. I love this truck. Super capable. Perfect for what I do for work, and taking the gf out for some dinner, or hauling ass out of town when society collapses. I’ve got 18” wheels and I think I may put some 35’s on it eventually but this shit is too tight. Worth every penny.
The tire underneath is a full-size tire, which they do on all pickup!!!!!
Removing a gas cap is now a “feature” soon they will be changing you 500.00 for capless gas tanks.
It’s to wide make’s It hard to get down hunting trails, square wheel wells are goofy wheels are round, bed is a foot short.
That is a full-size spare tire under the canyon get your facts straight!!😊
Is that hard plastic on the doors? If it is were you just trying to avoid mentioning it in order to help sell this thing brah?
Everything is made of hard plastic nowadays
@@YTJoshuaMcDonald
does that mean it is or isn’t hard plastic? Please clarify brah 🤔
It’s fucking amazing truck ❤
The seat pockets on the back of the seat telling me its a 2023 model .
2024 has the same seat pockets. the 2023 only has a 9in driver cluster. 2024has the 11in as this one does
Enclose this thing and you’ve got a 4Runner killer
Those are the headlights not fog lights up top lol
That isn't a full size spare tire???
Guy doesn't know the difference between headlights and fog lights.
Yeah I messed that up 😂 hard to get all 1000 features of the vehicle correct sometimes. Thanks for letting me know!
Dont know about the price on this. For a little more I can get a ford 150 xlt with a v8
It's an overpriced 4cyl POS
Not all at4 have 360 views
Beautiful 🛻
Manual hood????😢😢😮
For $50k plus and being a GMC you would seriously think this would have hydraulic lift for the hood.. just saying
Exactly what I was thinking
And how about a power sliding rear window??
how often do most people open the hood really?
No diesel option?
Bose??
Follow up, this was a response to one, but info for all. Just my personal opinion and observations, but decide wisely;
I've had it for about a month now. Not overly crazy about it so far. Off the road it's great. Looks are also great.
What I don't like. Has no light switch, everything is auto. Doesn't hold any lighting memory. I like driving with the fog lights, but you have to turn them on through the info/radio with multiple steps.
Everything works through the center screen with 2 to 5 pushes to do the simplest of things... another downer.
It has NO PULLING POWER!!! Plenty of engine but no weight to put it to use. Hooked onto my 28 ft boat to move it around the yard and I couldn't break it loose with the truck on pavement any the boat in the grass. All 4 tire just squalled and spun the truck in slow arcs. My friends Nissan Armada pulled it without any problems. Pulling stuck ppl at the beach is the same... All wheel spin & going nowhere, kinda embarrassing.
Gonna try and keep my milage under 10k and trade in in on the new 2025 Ramcharger.
Also, the economy is atrocious for this size truck! Only 13-15 intown and 19-22 on the hwy. if I stay out of the turbo. With the turbo I can see single digits on EPA.
Sorry about the late response, but I wanted to get a feel for the truck before responding. Hope you didn't buy it.
Thumbs down no road test
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Womp Womp
Sure who doesnt love cracked blocks from the factory
12 blocks cracked out of 400,000 engines built. Problem was corrected and GM extended an engine replacement guarantee through 2026 if it happens.
Toyota made some cracked blocks a couple of years ago as well. Improper cooling during manufacturing. Just a point of reference.
lol why when someone criticizes their favorite truck, everyone wants to compare it to Toyota trucks? Lol
Then go get your Mexican built Tacoma & blow the front axle when mall crawling, just like TFL just did.
ALL vehicke have their issues... That's what recalls are for--- to catch the aweshits!!!
Who can afford 50k?
Why only the ugly brown leather on the interior !! No other options !?!?!
Overpriced 4cyl POS
lol, while you get more features it’s gonna hit hard in 6 years when it is worth about $10,000 less than the Toyota.
You pay about $10,000 more for a Toyota with equivalent features. My 2023 Colorado is actually listed on KBB for only $1500 less than I paid after 7 months of ownership.