Half an hour to install - holy moly! Shows the difference in speed between a Pi and modern desktop. Last time I did a clean install it took a few minutes!
You should use a different desktop on your pi. I like KDE Plasma but I only recommend that if your pi is on the higher end of specs. Otherwise there's plenty of more modern looking desktops for Linux that's run way smoother than the standard raspbian desktop
I noticed when you looked at "about system" that it indicated that only 2.92 GB of RAM was usable. Note that if you visit the UEFI menu (included with Windows on Raspberry), you can disable the option marked "Limit RAM use to 3GB".
@@efeloteishe4675 the iGPU on the Pi becomes unstable if allocated more than 512MB, and is rarely allocated more than 256MB. If the discrepancy in RAM amount was just due to video memory, it should be closer to 3.2-3.6 GB.
I had Windows 11, on my Raspberry Pi 4, 8Gb version few months ago, I did the installation from windows and was fair more complicated, I'm glad to see the installation from Linux more easy to do. I've been running x86 and x64 native windows programs without problems (until now no program had give me problems), I use Netflix and UA-cam video streaming without delay, so I really happy with the performance. My initial motivation have been running Windows programs on a cheap and low energy consumption environment, I would be grateful if you can make energy consumption testing on this setup comparing with RaspberryOS or other OS. Thanks for the great content as always!
@@i_used_adblock_to_watch_this Just for testing, and obviously I installed other programs as well, like Dos games running on DoxBox, SNES Emulator, trading utilities like MT5 and Ninjatrader for algotrading, and Office 2019.
@@cyberstorm45 Thanks! Just one more question: do you know if Remote Access (Microsoft RDP) works properly? My main reason to build this solution is to use the most of time as a client server because Ms RDP in my experience isost fluid and flexible application to it.
The thing I love about windows 7... is that when I open the settings, it opens the settings. I don't have to wait some inexplicable amount of time for it to do nothing more taxing than populate a window with a few icons. And this is on a 10 year old PC... but this is 2022 of course and microsoft are like "you want to open a window... hmm.... that's very complicated you know...."
Excellent and interesting video Chris, thank you. Loaded Win 11 on my Pi4 8GB, but as mentioned by others, Win 11 is painfully slow. Given that it was possible at all, is highly commendable. I look forward to further developments/upgrades/downloads in the coming months. Perhaps a future Pi5 fitted with an SSD will significantly improve performance.
Definitely a PI OS that is perfectly suited for snail use. The concept is great, even if the hardware and lack of complete drivers will never make it a realistic day to day proposition. But a potentially useful pointer for the next iteration of the board.
The reason there are no drivers is that Qualcomm had an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft for Windows on ARM, but we believe that that deal is soon to expire.
hey hoss. Sundays are usually a slow upload day regarding my favorite youtubers. sometimes i get a little nervous if you don't upload at the exact time you usually do, but you're pretty rock-solid in being there on time, rock-solid in being there every sunday. thank you sir, i appreciate your efforts and look forward to your vids every sunday. you have a breadth of knowledge regarding any platform, os, etc. Thank you for expanding my mind with your knowledge. i believe that, in a previous video, you asked your audience what our interest is. I can only speak for myself. home automation, home security using only rasberry pis and whatever OPEN SOURCE that doesn't phone home software you choose (i sometimes step into my kitchen naked and i don't want the world to see my how little my puppy is). i know you've touched on this topic, but i would love to see a complete start-to-finish series on the matter rather than tid-bits here and there. i've watched vids from DIY Perks (ua-cam.com/video/CouxmNqxO4A/v-deo.html) to Smart Home Solver (ua-cam.com/video/A73u1S0yQoE/v-deo.html) the problem i have with the latter is that he usually uses solutions that phone home. Well, that and all his "incredible" sh*t is generally geared towards turning lights on and off. Seems there's gotta be more valuable solutions to automating one's home. Seems like there's a solution out there that doesn't report to AWS your current position in your home. i'd love to see you dig into the home automation realm. keep in mind, i run on windows and while i'm dev'ing software, i have an extra screen that i could keep track of what's going on in my house, with my house, around my house. i live in Florida, United States, so certainly part of that would be a system that uses whole house fans, motors that open and close windows, cues to the HVAC to turn on or off, all driven by the current heat index, the temperature in the attic, the temperature outside, et alis. do a series on how to implement that, i will follow along step by step, plus like every vid (i'm already subscribed with notifications on). p.s. I do believe you have the driest sense of humor in the history of mankind. How do you manage to generate enough saliva to swallow food? :) you rock hoss. :) ps. These brits suck: ua-cam.com/video/y-E7_VHLvkE/v-deo.html you should be ashamed of your country. ok, ok, maybe not as much as what america's produced: ua-cam.com/video/aYDfwUJzYQg/v-deo.html busting your chops hoss, tryin' a make ya think. I'm here all week, tip your waitress.
Greetings Mr. CB and community! It is always a treat to watch an educational and interesting video about technology, and at the same time to be hilarious by design. What a ride with the snail joke! Great content as always!
I feel like we are slowly watching this man’s descent into madness. As he is doing this installation, he converses with snails about the meaning of life. He names his scissors. I’m just waiting for sock puppets he introduces as his most trusted friend then complains that it is not talking loudly enough for the mic to pick up the conversation he is hearing in his head.
They said Newton was mad. They said Einstein was mad. They said my Uncle Louis was mad. Actually, they were right on that one. Uncle Louis was mad as a box of hornets.
An interesting and entertaining video; your dialogue was very funny, especially about the snails. Shows how flexible the Pi is. I haven’t got one, thinking of getting a Pi, a 400, at Christmas.
That snail killed me... almost like Windows 11 killed your poor Pi. Anyway, that is an impressive demo what is possible on todays SBCs. As a geek, I really appreciate this kind of videos. Thank you!
Does the installer leave a downloaded file image on the host Pi SD card? - 3:45 ie. If you want to do another install will it need to download x GB of data all over again? That's what I hate about a lot of program installers these days that don't run locally from a downloaded ZIP (or whatever) and require the same data to be downloaded again and again AND require you do the install with an internet connection.
I think windows 11 is terrible for all users because of this gated content via microsoft account but using it on arm is a genius move. 10 years late but still a genius move. Great video by the way.
I would think this would work quite a lot better on the 8GB Pi 4. (FWIW, I wouldn't even run Windows 10 with 4 GB on an x64 machine-- all it does all day long is page, which ties up RAM, the disk, and CPU.) Booting from an actual SSD would likely help too. The CPU bottleneck is a harder egg to crack, though I would guess that heatsink you have on there should open up the possibility of modest gains via overclocking. Given the leap between RPi 3 and 4, I wonder if RPi 5 will actually be a viable Windows platform?
Another excellent offering Christopher, but it does seem strange seeing that, a bit like sandals and socks...can be done, but I'll let others try it 🙂 Thank you!
LOL. Good point there. May not be the height of fashion but practical when you need to put on some footwear quickly and just don't have the time or energy to find your shoes. ;-)
22H2 ARM build which is in public release is first ARM build for the masses (Windows insider). Tested mostly on MBP M1. Though did try once on PI 4 8GB. Must test on my Pi
Thanks for another Sunday vid in the USA. Good show! Windows ARM on the Raspberry Pi foreshadows what may very well be a glimpse of the possibilities of the Pi 5, 6, 7, ... as "Hope Springs"!
This was interesting. I think Windows 11 would likely best fit on a proper X86/X64 based SBC like some of the other's you've shown on the channel. Full props to the folks who got it working!
Well, yes, and that makes all the more sense now we cannot get Pi's at their proper price anyway. A latte Panda V1 4GB/64GB is 159 USD (139 EUR/122 GBP) now, which is less than what scalpers will have you pay for a Pi 4. To be sure, it is not exactly a powerhouse with its Atom processor, but for some purposes, it will do the job and properly supports Windows.
@@BilisNegra The Latte Panda would certainly be more powerful than an RPi4, even with the limitation of the Atom SOC, which(if we're being fair) isn't a garbage SOC.
Yeah, I will be quite happy to see them supporting various architecture including arm RISCV and MIPS and I hope they can run any old days x86 code by Virtual machines on any CPU architecture and for the new code I hope they can compile for all architecture (Write once, run anywhere), if I can't run all the old software on Windows any more, I have no reason to stay with Windows any more even they turn to arm based
I've just re-watched this video on a Pi400 running Windows 11. But I can't "customise" it to get audio over HDMI without activating it with a license key. Most impressive. A couple of hints: don't try to do the download over a slow link, don't try to install to a slow usb drive.
I'm so glad to finally see this video come from you :D I have some things to say which some people may have misunderstood from this video Stock windows is heavy (If you couldn't tell by now :P) and running it on older pi's is not advised You can increase performance by either debloating or disabling visual effects, if you prefer to not mess with a lot of things i suggest you at least turn off indexing windows defender and windows update (Updates may break your install so it's advised to disable them anyways) You can also use a SD card dongle instead of the built in one as the current driver is limited and does not allow you pi to utilize your card to the fullest Or you can use a flash drive or SSD (Preferably SSD) If you want to easily manage WoR and improve your experience you can also try out WoR control panel It has GPIO control support an appstore (For native arm apps) and an easy config.txt configurator for changing your resolution or overclock
Just to give some numbers for the people which are like me at the start "how important debloaing can be?" - a "stock" w10 arm idled with around 80-90% CPU usage on a RPI 3b while the debloated iso used only 10-15% CPU.
@@plamendimitrov5762 Well i usually debloat more than what regular people consider "Good enough" and provide a preset for said debloat So by the end of it i get about 0-1% cpu usage But then again i just like to have the best experience at the cost of a bit of "usability" not like you will ever use what i disable but still Debloating also makes your system more secure for those who are scared about microsoft stealing their data If you disable their telemetry which hogs up performance and steals your data then it's a win win
I recently bought a 10 year old desktop PC, pre-installed with Windows 10, to run the few Windows programs I haven't found Linux replacements for. As it has a built-in power supply and hard disk, it was cheaper than buying a Pi (even at pre chip shortage prices!), power supply and SSD. And it's faster. None of the programs I use have ARM versions, so I'd have lost out on speed even more with a Pi. Neither solution is ideal, but I think what I've done is the better option for me.
@@anon_y_mousse SCARM, Templot, LaserGRBL, Silhouette Studio, VT Transaction +. 3D view in SCARM won't work in Linux, VT won't work in WINE, Templot runs nicely in WINE, but when I'm using a couple of programs that won't it seems pointless to install it just for that, as I rarely use it. None of my Linux machines are really powerful enough to run a VM, and it complicates them. I'm currently undecided between LaserGRBL and Lightburn, that does have a Linux version. It's just less hassle to run them all in Windows rather than WINE or a VM in Linux. I want to use them, not spend ages trying to tweak things to try to get them to run totally reliably!
@@EcoHamletsUK Interesting. What tools do SCARM and Templot provide that you use which a regular CAD program doesn't have? Why would running LaserGRBL and Lightburn as native builds for Linux work differently from their Windows builds? Could you use Inkscape and replace Silhouette Studio? Could you use LibreOffice Calc to replace VT Transaction, possibly using templates?
Almost every Pi 4 project on the net has someone posting “why not use a refurbished PC” comment. I have just replaced a Xeon E3 server with a Pi 4 when I calculated it will cost me £150 a year in electricity compared to £10 for a Pi doing the same task. I continue to run a Windows laptop for Office apps as life is too short (I’m 70+) to learn LibreOffice. However the #1 reason for using a Pi is that it’s FUN.
@@paulmilligan3007 Fair point, but LibreOffice isn't drastically different from MS Office. Unless you're a power user there's not a lot to learn. Maybe give it a shot on your Windows laptop and if you like it, maybe switch full time to it and perhaps even install a Linux distro on that laptop?
What we really need is Win11 on Arm running on an Apple Silicon Mac. Then we can have Bootcamp back. But this is definitely a step in the right direction. Thanks for the video.
It does run already. and pretty well. It's just not officially supported or licensed by Microsoft yet (hope they will do so one day so you can run it without breaking any laws).
@@LMacNeill Microsoft hasn't done anything beyond, well, refusing to do anything. Windows doesn't specifically block Apple Silicon in any way, it just hasn't got the right drivers. And it is completely legal and within Terms of Service to run Windows on an Apple Silicon Mac -- Apple does not restrict you from installing other operating systems, and Microsoft does not restrict you from running Windows on unsupported platforms. But neither will they raise a finger to help make it work, so it will be up to a third party.
@@PixlRainbow I swear I read somewhere that Microsoft and Qualcomm had signed an exclusivity agreement, such that Microsoft was not allowed to license Windows on any ARM SoC that wasn't made by Qualcomm. Am I remembering that wrong?
Thanks, I installed win 11 on one of my Rasp. following your video and everything works.. it's not a rocket but it works ... Thanks .. Greetings from Florence
Jolly superior video, once again 👍. A perfect presentation of possible solipsistic prolepses powered by energy-sipping ARM crisps. With appreciation and regards.
An extraordinary video! I would also like to thank WoR and Botspot for their stirling work - well done to all involved! However, I am worried that the Anatidae in the park are not getting the attention they deserve, and various slimy Mollusca have slithered in to your affections.
My birthday today, so this was a very interesting video. The fact that you can run Windoze at all on a PI is quite amazing. It seems to be reasonably responsive too, considering that Windoze 11 expects much more modern PC hardware and not an ARM SBC. Great video. Thanks for posting. Not had much luck trying to run Windoze apps under WINE in various Linux distros - I wonder how this setup would work with some Windoze application installs? I have a PI4, so perhaps I will try it out just for the purposes of experimentation.
I would put "a Windows 11 license" above "another pair of socks" in my "Top Ten List of Least Favourite Birthday Presents" - at least another pair of socks might be of use eventually.
I’m overall impressed about Windows on Arm64. I’m running Windows on Arm64 via Parallels on my M1 Macbook. And they have now released a preview of Visual Studio 2022 running natively. Hopefully, there will be a high-end Raspberry Pi or similar capable to meet those capabilities of M1. I’m sure Microsoft is seeing opportunities with RPi as the hardware evolves.
If they ever build something like an M1 comparable chip, it's probably going to end up even more expensive than the M1 Mac Mini. And I'm not about to pay 700$ for an ARM SBC.
@@ran2wild370 for 700$ i can buy an Intel NUC and just disassemble it until only the Mainboard is left and call that an SBC 🤣 And I will probably have less driver issues along the way.
Chris, thanks for another informative video. I suppose the obvious question is “Why?”. The obvious answer is because that is what geeks do. But that is unkind. Software and OS developers must strive to keep up with advances in the hardware that is constantly providing faster, smaller, more power efficient, and hopefully cheaper alternatives to the x86 world. Although Intel and AMD are working hard to make all these advances, too. I doubt, however, that Microsoft intends to make Windows open source. And given the history on Windows security holes, I’ll be sticking with Linux for the foreseeable future.
For the record, I am a computer geek and have been happily so for 40 years. But I also rid myself of my Microsoft abuser when support for Windows 7 ended.
I, too, am a computer geek. But I can’t afford to keep updating my OS and hardware at the whims of the supplier. So, I stick with my 10 years old hardware and the Linux OS. Virtualbox makes an excellent emulator when needed. I do own several raspberry pi’s including a pi4 running Ubuntu 22.04 desktop. I enjoy working with arduino and esp type mcu’s too.
@@billstoner5559 I think we are very alike. I love old hardware (especially Thinkpads) and bringing them back to life with (Gentoo) Linux. I am also an SBC freak with a number of Raspberry Pi's, Orange Pi's, Asus Tinkerboard and few others. I also discovered the joy of electronics once again and, yes, I am messing around with Arduino, ESP32 and Pi Pico.
@@mfr2 But you can also "smash yourself in the face with a hammer" (in my opinion, a similar experience to using Windows) but very few people do that "because they can".
Thanks so much for the great content as always 😊, I needed some help flashing windows on my 8gb rpi-4 wor-flasher on windows never worked right even when writing on an SSD and all the other Linux tutorials were super confusing and didn't exactly work for me, been watching u since the collosus video I believe, love your channel man
This is really cool in concept. I wonder how windows 10 behaved in the pi. There are theories on old windows too but probably with a virtual machine unlike this. Great video.
Fascinating! Amazing! A fairly easy Windows 11 install that anyone can do! Nearly unbelievable! Simply wow! I can do that! Looking forward to your next video!
You are such a treasure to the entire world-wide computer community, sir. This new video is very interesting and actually a quite amazing development for demonstrating the incredible power and versatility of the Raspberry Pi computing platform. Thank you so much for producing it! You might consider making one small change in your video though. A more accurate title for it would be something along the lines of "How To Ruin An Otherwise Perfectly Good Raspberry Pi Computer." Except for that one tiny cavil, I cannot find anything to criticize in your video. You didn't even annoy us with the phrase, "magic of film-making" this time. Please carry on as usual then, our Good Dr. Barnatt!
Fortunately, you don’t really ruin the computer, but it could have been titled “How to waste a 32 GB SD card and 3-4 hours of your time!”. Of course, you can always overwrite that SD card, but the time is lost forever, other than educational benefits.
A big thing for this kind of processor architectures (ARM and RISC-V) over x86-64 and IA-86 (which we still use for majority of computers today) is that not only it benefits for small package design, portability, and energy usage, but also in ARM-based operating systems will have their own benefits in mobile operating systems (things like idling/standby with lowest power possible, asymmetric process, and others). Unfortunately, majority of Windows applications were not optimized for ARM (or sluggish when running it on emulation), compared to macOS' Rosetta 2 emulation and Universal 2 binary (one app with both Intel and ARM bits). It would be grateful to see if majority of the Windows apps were fully optimized for ARM, just like the Universal 2 binary's up to.
@@djtyros From tvtropes: At Ming's wedding, ships fly two banners in the background. The first says "All creatures shall make merry". The second says "Under pain of death".
Wish you *WOULD HAVE* shown UA-cam even if it is really bad. It is hard to know how bad it is (it's bad on a lot of Pi distros) when we aren't shown anything. - 9:50
It is nice to have this option for those who need Win11 on the Pi. I'm sure It'll be better when the graphic drivers are ready. Meanwhile, there's nothing like having a heated discussion with a silent passing snail and going back inside acknowledging unequivocal defeat.
I'll look at it on a 8GB unit. Just want to be able to change the music of my apple devises, and not just download the photos (which is the only thing I can do through Linux to date)... Great as always. Christopher, I just hope Itunes can be installed.
@@Ninnuam999 Thanks dude, will use it when I'll finally decide to upgrade to win 11, win 10 is working perfectly fine for me rn and i don't wanna ruin it lol
Thank you Chris for yet another interesting & informative video. Maybe in the not too distant future things will have developed to provide an ultra low power desktop capable of running Windows 12 or 13 (over to the dark side), he shivers now there's a thought. On the flip side I hope that Raspberry Pi will have matured further giving the competition a run for their money. :)
It's actually suprising that Windows ARM still uses UEFI for booting. Seeing how Apple uses its own method for booting with Apple Silicon makes me think that Microsoft will probably not restrict systems to only boot Windows once ARM on PCs goes mainstream. I have never been a fan of other ARM boot methods like iBoot (on Apple ARM devices), or the Android boot-method mainly because they feel very restrictive (with the whole bootloader unlocking/locking).
Another great video. Thank you Chris. When you had a tea break I saw a chocolate bar. What kind was it and was it your favourite? If not do you have a favourite? I am from Canada and did not recognize the brand. This kind of detail I find interesting as it adds to the detail and memories for a real person hosting a weekly show on youtube. Enjoy the week and I hope to see another video very soon.
*HEY!* You didn't *_READ_* the Licence Agreement! Ya, no one reads those long agreements and that's why they are becoming unenforceable in some jurisdictions as I understand it.
"Windows" is actually a Service running on Windows (NT) Native mode. Hardware manufacturers were expected to write the Native mode to hardwae code. That includes the file system code. Note 64-bit Windows is "AMD64", written by AMD to use AMD 64 bit extensions on their CPUs while intel promoted "Itanium" flop (HP PA-RISC architecture.)
WOR is a lot of fun. I look forward to when they get GPU drivers with acceleration working. Windows 11 is surprisingly good on an RPi 4. Nothing I'd use as a daily-driver (perhaps it could be with proper GPU support), but usable enough to play around and experiment with.
I guess if your idea of "fun" is "buying a computer and installing Microsoft's bloated OS on it just so Microsoft can own your computer to lease it back to you under their terms" then who am I to argue?
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Welcome to the new age, my dude. You've just described practically everything that connects to the internet. If you like computers, don't limit yourself to only experimenting with the "superior" OS, whatever you think that is -- because, depending on what a person needs to do with their system, "superior" is highly relative.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 You're a very argumentative person today, aren't you? Quotation marks are a typographical tool that can be used to convey emphasis similar to using *bold* or _italic_ typeface, in addition to their role of relaying what a person has said verbatim. When used for emphasis, they are generally done so to imply an incongruity with the rest of the statement. Since the superiority of an OS is highly dependent on what tasks a user performs with their machine, the word does not properly apply without a specific context given for the performance being evaluated as superior or not superior. Additionally, while you did not use that word, your denigration of Windows clearly implied that you believe there is at least one OS superior in every way to Windows.
@@davidg5898 "You're a very argumentative person today, aren't you?" Let me understand that point correctly - what you are saying is that I more argumentative today than I have been on other days? So you're stalking me then? Sonny, I just wanted to comment on how sh1t Windows is - you wanting to talk about me instead is not healthy. Have you considered therapy? Or getting some "flesh and blood" friends in real life rather than sitting up there in the spare bedroom of your parents' house on your mum's computer with just imaginary Internet friends? Look, let me make this easy for you. This discussion is now closed. Run along, mind how you go and stay away from sharp scissors, sonny.
Half an hour to install - holy moly! Shows the difference in speed between a Pi and modern desktop. Last time I did a clean install it took a few minutes!
Well its more SD Card vs SSD speed than the speed of the machine
@@fdmazlum I will be trying this on a SSD as I dont think SD card is fast enough ! to have a useable experience
You should use a different desktop on your pi. I like KDE Plasma but I only recommend that if your pi is on the higher end of specs. Otherwise there's plenty of more modern looking desktops for Linux that's run way smoother than the standard raspbian desktop
I noticed when you looked at "about system" that it indicated that only 2.92 GB of RAM was usable. Note that if you visit the UEFI menu (included with Windows on Raspberry), you can disable the option marked "Limit RAM use to 3GB".
Hmm nice on some computers they show it like that, thought that was allocated to iGPU
@@efeloteishe4675 the iGPU on the Pi becomes unstable if allocated more than 512MB, and is rarely allocated more than 256MB. If the discrepancy in RAM amount was just due to video memory, it should be closer to 3.2-3.6 GB.
How to do it sir
@@ydiadi_ more people should find out if you could hacktosh arm computers now a days
@@NicVandEmZ I would love Apple Pi project myself
I had Windows 11, on my Raspberry Pi 4, 8Gb version few months ago, I did the installation from windows and was fair more complicated, I'm glad to see the installation from Linux more easy to do.
I've been running x86 and x64 native windows programs without problems (until now no program had give me problems), I use Netflix and UA-cam video streaming without delay, so I really happy with the performance.
My initial motivation have been running Windows programs on a cheap and low energy consumption environment, I would be grateful if you can make energy consumption testing on this setup comparing with RaspberryOS or other OS.
Thanks for the great content as always!
Why would you bother installing Windows if all you're going to do is stream content and not use programs that are relying on the Windows platform?
@@i_used_adblock_to_watch_this Just for testing, and obviously I installed other programs as well, like Dos games running on DoxBox, SNES Emulator, trading utilities like MT5 and Ninjatrader for algotrading, and Office 2019.
Hi, could you enlighte me if I can plug USB webcam in the RPI win11 and run a Zoon meeting? Thanks
@@marcelo_luz I've never did the test because I don't have a webcam, but wireless keyboard, external hard drives, gamepad, all of them worked fine.
@@cyberstorm45 Thanks! Just one more question: do you know if Remote Access (Microsoft RDP) works properly? My main reason to build this solution is to use the most of time as a client server because Ms RDP in my experience isost fluid and flexible application to it.
The thing I love about windows 7... is that when I open the settings, it opens the settings. I don't have to wait some inexplicable amount of time for it to do nothing more taxing than populate a window with a few icons. And this is on a 10 year old PC... but this is 2022 of course and microsoft are like "you want to open a window... hmm.... that's very complicated you know...."
Cool story bro.
Great video as always! Hope that snail was nice.
Tasty, with lots of garlic...
@@kevinshumaker3753 Poor snail! 😔😅
Thanks for your support. One of the snails is still mulling around somewhere.
@@ExplainingComputers You're very much welcome! And that's great to hear. 🐌❤️
Excellent and interesting video Chris, thank you. Loaded Win 11 on my Pi4 8GB, but as mentioned by others, Win 11 is painfully slow. Given that it was possible at all, is highly commendable. I look forward to further developments/upgrades/downloads in the coming months. Perhaps a future Pi5 fitted with an SSD will significantly improve performance.
Windows 11 on a Pi, who’d have thought it! What fun and I loved the chats with a snail. Great stuff, thanks for another brilliant video.
I didn't think it - if that helps at all.
Definitely a PI OS that is perfectly suited for snail use.
The concept is great, even if the hardware and lack of complete drivers will never make it a realistic day to day proposition.
But a potentially useful pointer for the next iteration of the board.
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The reason there are no drivers is that Qualcomm had an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft for Windows on ARM, but we believe that that deal is soon to expire.
hey hoss. Sundays are usually a slow upload day regarding my favorite youtubers.
sometimes i get a little nervous if you don't upload at the exact time you usually do, but you're pretty rock-solid in being there on time, rock-solid in being there every sunday.
thank you sir, i appreciate your efforts and look forward to your vids every sunday.
you have a breadth of knowledge regarding any platform, os, etc. Thank you for expanding my mind with your knowledge.
i believe that, in a previous video, you asked your audience what our interest is. I can only speak for myself.
home automation, home security using only rasberry pis and whatever OPEN SOURCE that doesn't phone home software you choose (i sometimes step into my kitchen naked and i don't want the world to see my how little my puppy is).
i know you've touched on this topic, but i would love to see a complete start-to-finish series on the matter rather than tid-bits here and there.
i've watched vids from DIY Perks
(ua-cam.com/video/CouxmNqxO4A/v-deo.html)
to Smart Home Solver
(ua-cam.com/video/A73u1S0yQoE/v-deo.html)
the problem i have with the latter is that he usually uses solutions that phone home. Well, that and all his "incredible" sh*t is generally geared towards turning lights on and off. Seems there's gotta be more valuable solutions to automating one's home. Seems like there's a solution out there that doesn't report to AWS your current position in your home.
i'd love to see you dig into the home automation realm.
keep in mind, i run on windows and while i'm dev'ing software, i have an extra screen that i could keep track of what's going on in my house, with my house, around my house.
i live in Florida, United States, so certainly part of that would be a system that uses whole house fans, motors that open and close windows, cues to the HVAC to turn on or off, all driven by the current heat index, the temperature in the attic, the temperature outside, et alis.
do a series on how to implement that, i will follow along step by step, plus like every vid (i'm already subscribed with notifications on).
p.s. I do believe you have the driest sense of humor in the history of mankind. How do you manage to generate enough saliva to swallow food? :)
you rock hoss. :)
ps. These brits suck: ua-cam.com/video/y-E7_VHLvkE/v-deo.html
you should be ashamed of your country.
ok, ok, maybe not as much as what america's produced:
ua-cam.com/video/aYDfwUJzYQg/v-deo.html
busting your chops hoss, tryin' a make ya think. I'm here all week, tip your waitress.
Both excellent bands!
@@Axl_Pose all day hoss :)
You are by far the best teacher for soft soft . It's very complicated at first - overwhelming, actually - but, you make it doable for
Really neat. Nice to see how versatile the Raspberry Pi is.
Greetings Mr. CB and community!
It is always a treat to watch an educational and interesting video about technology, and at the same time to be hilarious by design. What a ride with the snail joke! Great content as always!
I do have a limited data right now, but since a new ExplainingComputers video is up, I must watch it 😁👌
Thanks for watching! :)
If on limited mobile data just set the resolution to 360p
I feel like we are slowly watching this man’s descent into madness. As he is doing this installation, he converses with snails about the meaning of life. He names his scissors. I’m just waiting for sock puppets he introduces as his most trusted friend then complains that it is not talking loudly enough for the mic to pick up the conversation he is hearing in his head.
They said Newton was mad. They said Einstein was mad. They said my Uncle Louis was mad.
Actually, they were right on that one. Uncle Louis was mad as a box of hornets.
An interesting and entertaining video; your dialogue was very funny, especially about the snails. Shows how flexible the Pi is. I haven’t got one, thinking of getting a Pi, a 400, at Christmas.
What a great video. Your eccentric characteristics really shined in a really good way. "I am going to wait and have tea!" You are wonderful, good sir!
That snail killed me... almost like Windows 11 killed your poor Pi.
Anyway, that is an impressive demo what is possible on todays SBCs. As a geek, I really appreciate this kind of videos. Thank you!
Does the installer leave a downloaded file image on the host Pi SD card? - 3:45 ie. If you want to do another install will it need to download x GB of data all over again? That's what I hate about a lot of program installers these days that don't run locally from a downloaded ZIP (or whatever) and require the same data to be downloaded again and again AND require you do the install with an internet connection.
I think windows 11 is terrible for all users because of this gated content via microsoft account but using it on arm is a genius move. 10 years late but still a genius move.
Great video by the way.
I would think this would work quite a lot better on the 8GB Pi 4. (FWIW, I wouldn't even run Windows 10 with 4 GB on an x64 machine-- all it does all day long is page, which ties up RAM, the disk, and CPU.) Booting from an actual SSD would likely help too. The CPU bottleneck is a harder egg to crack, though I would guess that heatsink you have on there should open up the possibility of modest gains via overclocking. Given the leap between RPi 3 and 4, I wonder if RPi 5 will actually be a viable Windows platform?
Another excellent offering Christopher, but it does seem strange seeing that, a bit like sandals and socks...can be done, but I'll let others try it 🙂
Thank you!
LOL. Good point there. May not be the height of fashion but practical when you need to put on some footwear quickly and just don't have the time or energy to find your shoes. ;-)
@@dang48 Aha, so now I know what Linus of LTT's secret account is.
@@anon_y_mousse :D
Agree. Cool to see but since I don't run Windows on my desktop, I'll certainly not bother doing it on my Pi 4.
All the snail bits were wonderful. Incredible video!
22H2 ARM build which is in public release is first ARM build for the masses (Windows insider).
Tested mostly on MBP M1. Though did try once on PI 4 8GB. Must test on my Pi
6:40 Now unlocking his Windows machine is a cakewalk while Chris chats with a passing snail 😂 BTW, great video as always Sir.
Interesting and well presented thanks.
Greetings! :)
Loved the comparison to snails when doing Windows updates. Great overview!
This is very exciting and makes me hopeful for the future raspberry pi models.
It's Sunday already?
Greetings Chris. This is an interesting video.
Sunday seems to come around faster and faster!
Seems stable. Hope the next version of PI can support windows in usable way.
Why not the other way around?
@@kevinshumaker3753 would be great too.
Thanks for another Sunday vid in the USA. Good show! Windows ARM on the Raspberry Pi foreshadows what may very well be a glimpse of the possibilities of the Pi 5, 6, 7, ... as "Hope Springs"!
This was interesting. I think Windows 11 would likely best fit on a proper X86/X64 based SBC like some of the other's you've shown on the channel. Full props to the folks who got it working!
Well, yes, and that makes all the more sense now we cannot get Pi's at their proper price anyway. A latte Panda V1 4GB/64GB is 159 USD (139 EUR/122 GBP) now, which is less than what scalpers will have you pay for a Pi 4. To be sure, it is not exactly a powerhouse with its Atom processor, but for some purposes, it will do the job and properly supports Windows.
@@BilisNegra
The Latte Panda would certainly be more powerful than an RPi4, even with the limitation of the Atom SOC, which(if we're being fair) isn't a garbage SOC.
I really hope ARM-based computer will be part of the industry because X86 hardware is so expensive in developing country.
And RISC-V too! :) 2023 will be an interesting year for non-x86 hardware.
Yeah, I will be quite happy to see them supporting various architecture including arm RISCV and MIPS and I hope they can run any old days x86 code by Virtual machines on any CPU architecture and for the new code I hope they can compile for all architecture (Write once, run anywhere), if I can't run all the old software on Windows any more, I have no reason to stay with Windows any more even they turn to arm based
Nice already Sunday I love your raspberry pi videos
Greetings!
I've just re-watched this video on a Pi400 running Windows 11. But I can't "customise" it to get audio over HDMI without activating it with a license key. Most impressive. A couple of hints: don't try to do the download over a slow link, don't try to install to a slow usb drive.
Just go insider and run Windows test versions for free. That's what I'd do.
Amazing! I just got my hands on an RPI 4b with 2gb ram. I'm super excited about applications with machine learning on the Pi.
Wow. Another gem Chris. Thank you. Snails:2 MoT:1 Ducks:NIL
I'm impressed! I had no idea this was even in development, but that's why I follow you :)
This is cool! I have Win11 ARM installed on my 16” MBP using Parallels. Which I think is the only place I’ll be installing Win11, for now.
I'm so glad to finally see this video come from you :D
I have some things to say which some people may have misunderstood from this video
Stock windows is heavy (If you couldn't tell by now :P) and running it on older pi's is not advised
You can increase performance by either debloating or disabling visual effects, if you prefer to not mess with a lot of things i suggest you at least turn off indexing windows defender and windows update (Updates may break your install so it's advised to disable them anyways)
You can also use a SD card dongle instead of the built in one as the current driver is limited and does not allow you pi to utilize your card to the fullest Or you can use a flash drive or SSD (Preferably SSD)
If you want to easily manage WoR and improve your experience you can also try out WoR control panel
It has GPIO control support an appstore (For native arm apps) and an easy config.txt configurator for changing your resolution or overclock
Just to give some numbers for the people which are like me at the start "how important debloaing can be?" - a "stock" w10 arm idled with around 80-90% CPU usage on a RPI 3b while the debloated iso used only 10-15% CPU.
@@plamendimitrov5762 Well i usually debloat more than what regular people consider "Good enough" and provide a preset for said debloat
So by the end of it i get about 0-1% cpu usage
But then again i just like to have the best experience at the cost of a bit of "usability" not like you will ever use what i disable but still
Debloating also makes your system more secure for those who are scared about microsoft stealing their data
If you disable their telemetry which hogs up performance and steals your data then it's a win win
I recently bought a 10 year old desktop PC, pre-installed with Windows 10, to run the few Windows programs I haven't found Linux replacements for. As it has a built-in power supply and hard disk, it was cheaper than buying a Pi (even at pre chip shortage prices!), power supply and SSD. And it's faster. None of the programs I use have ARM versions, so I'd have lost out on speed even more with a Pi. Neither solution is ideal, but I think what I've done is the better option for me.
Out of curiosity, what Windows programs do you use that you can't or won't replace with OS equivalents?
@@anon_y_mousse SCARM, Templot, LaserGRBL, Silhouette Studio, VT Transaction +. 3D view in SCARM won't work in Linux, VT won't work in WINE, Templot runs nicely in WINE, but when I'm using a couple of programs that won't it seems pointless to install it just for that, as I rarely use it. None of my Linux machines are really powerful enough to run a VM, and it complicates them. I'm currently undecided between LaserGRBL and Lightburn, that does have a Linux version. It's just less hassle to run them all in Windows rather than WINE or a VM in Linux. I want to use them, not spend ages trying to tweak things to try to get them to run totally reliably!
@@EcoHamletsUK Interesting. What tools do SCARM and Templot provide that you use which a regular CAD program doesn't have? Why would running LaserGRBL and Lightburn as native builds for Linux work differently from their Windows builds? Could you use Inkscape and replace Silhouette Studio? Could you use LibreOffice Calc to replace VT Transaction, possibly using templates?
Almost every Pi 4 project on the net has someone posting “why not use a refurbished PC” comment. I have just replaced a Xeon E3 server with a Pi 4 when I calculated it will cost me £150 a year in electricity compared to £10 for a Pi doing the same task. I continue to run a Windows laptop for Office apps as life is too short (I’m 70+) to learn LibreOffice. However the #1 reason for using a Pi is that it’s FUN.
@@paulmilligan3007 Fair point, but LibreOffice isn't drastically different from MS Office. Unless you're a power user there's not a lot to learn. Maybe give it a shot on your Windows laptop and if you like it, maybe switch full time to it and perhaps even install a Linux distro on that laptop?
What we really need is Win11 on Arm running on an Apple Silicon Mac. Then we can have Bootcamp back. But this is definitely a step in the right direction. Thanks for the video.
It does run already. and pretty well. It's just not officially supported or licensed by Microsoft yet (hope they will do so one day so you can run it without breaking any laws).
@@АлексейГриднев-и7р oh, does it? I thought Microsoft had specifically done something to prevent it from running on Apple silicon.
@@LMacNeill Microsoft hasn't done anything beyond, well, refusing to do anything. Windows doesn't specifically block Apple Silicon in any way, it just hasn't got the right drivers. And it is completely legal and within Terms of Service to run Windows on an Apple Silicon Mac -- Apple does not restrict you from installing other operating systems, and Microsoft does not restrict you from running Windows on unsupported platforms. But neither will they raise a finger to help make it work, so it will be up to a third party.
@@PixlRainbow I swear I read somewhere that Microsoft and Qualcomm had signed an exclusivity agreement, such that Microsoft was not allowed to license Windows on any ARM SoC that wasn't made by Qualcomm. Am I remembering that wrong?
Thanks, I installed win 11 on one of my Rasp. following your video and everything works.. it's not a
rocket but it works ... Thanks .. Greetings from Florence
Greetings. A slow rocket! :)
Great video Chris!
I will be trying this out next week. Easy to follow instructions, all I need now is a few snails 🐌 to pass my time.
Brilliant little oddity here, great glimpse! I especially enjoyed the tea and snail sidebars, nicely done!
Great video, as always. To be honest, I probably won’t ever try this, but it’s nice to know that it’s possible.
Another great video - Thanks, Chris.
Oh and thank the snail for his/her input.
Jolly superior video, once again 👍. A perfect presentation of possible solipsistic prolepses powered by energy-sipping ARM crisps. With appreciation and regards.
An extraordinary video! I would also like to thank WoR and Botspot for their stirling work - well done to all involved!
However, I am worried that the Anatidae in the park are not getting the attention they deserve, and various slimy Mollusca have slithered in to your affections.
My birthday today, so this was a very interesting video. The fact that you can run Windoze at all on a PI is quite amazing. It seems to be reasonably responsive too, considering that Windoze 11 expects much more modern PC hardware and not an ARM SBC. Great video. Thanks for posting. Not had much luck trying to run Windoze apps under WINE in various Linux distros - I wonder how this setup would work with some Windoze application installs? I have a PI4, so perhaps I will try it out just for the purposes of experimentation.
I would put "a Windows 11 license" above "another pair of socks" in my "Top Ten List of Least Favourite Birthday Presents" - at least another pair of socks might be of use eventually.
Thanks for the information, I quite interested in Windows on arm
I have to admit, I was surprised how well it worked on the Pi.
Always look forward to having EC publishing another video. Makes my Sundays a little better.
Thanks for making such a great video!
Talk to a snail, Chris? Like that bit of sarcasm. Looks like those guys @WoR did a great job. Amazing how well Win11 runs on a Pi4.
Great video as usual. Have you tried Cpect emulator on a PI yet? It is the Spectrum Next emulator. With your tech background it would be interesting
Now this I must try! Noted with thanks.
I love this guy thank you Chris for making good videos for over years
Thanks for watching. :)
I’m overall impressed about Windows on Arm64. I’m running Windows on Arm64 via Parallels on my M1 Macbook. And they have now released a preview of Visual Studio 2022 running natively.
Hopefully, there will be a high-end Raspberry Pi or similar capable to meet those capabilities of M1. I’m sure Microsoft is seeing opportunities with RPi as the hardware evolves.
I am afraid M1 cores are "performance" cores with Apple's inclusions so it's not that cheap manufacturing costs cutting Broadcom CPU....
If they ever build something like an M1 comparable chip, it's probably going to end up even more expensive than the M1 Mac Mini. And I'm not about to pay 700$ for an ARM SBC.
@@kjjustinXD why not? only 10 times more than average SBC 🤣🤣
@@ran2wild370 for 700$ i can buy an Intel NUC and just disassemble it until only the Mainboard is left and call that an SBC 🤣
And I will probably have less driver issues along the way.
Microsoft seizes every opportunity to crowbar their bloated and privacy-hating OSes on platforms that don't need them in the first place.
Nice Video Chris, thanks for all you do.
Nice work Chris. I just don't know how you find the content every week but you do. Keep up the great work.
Chris, thanks for another informative video. I suppose the obvious question is “Why?”. The obvious answer is because that is what geeks do. But that is unkind. Software and OS developers must strive to keep up with advances in the hardware that is constantly providing faster, smaller, more power efficient, and hopefully cheaper alternatives to the x86 world. Although Intel and AMD are working hard to make all these advances, too. I doubt, however, that Microsoft intends to make Windows open source. And given the history on Windows security holes, I’ll be sticking with Linux for the foreseeable future.
For the record, I am a computer geek and have been happily so for 40 years. But I also rid myself of my Microsoft abuser when support for Windows 7 ended.
I, too, am a computer geek. But I can’t afford to keep updating my OS and hardware at the whims of the supplier. So, I stick with my 10 years old hardware and the Linux OS. Virtualbox makes an excellent emulator when needed. I do own several raspberry pi’s including a pi4 running Ubuntu 22.04 desktop. I enjoy working with arduino and esp type mcu’s too.
- "Why?"
- "Because we can!!!"
@@billstoner5559 I think we are very alike. I love old hardware (especially Thinkpads) and bringing them back to life with (Gentoo) Linux.
I am also an SBC freak with a number of Raspberry Pi's, Orange Pi's, Asus Tinkerboard and few others.
I also discovered the joy of electronics once again and, yes, I am messing around with Arduino, ESP32 and Pi Pico.
@@mfr2 But you can also "smash yourself in the face with a hammer" (in my opinion, a similar experience to using Windows) but very few people do that "because they can".
Will it run Crysis? 😜
Well . . .
Yes actually
I suspect it would have a crisis running Crysis lol
Without the graphical drivers crisis would kill it. We don't have graphical drivers in Windows on Raspberry yet.
Is there an ARM-version of Crysis?
Wow that's amazing! Another great video, thank you Chris!
Thanks so much for the great content as always 😊, I needed some help flashing windows on my 8gb rpi-4 wor-flasher on windows never worked right even when writing on an SSD and all the other Linux tutorials were super confusing and didn't exactly work for me, been watching u since the collosus video I believe, love your channel man
Thanks for watching. :) Visiting Colossus seems so long ago now.
Thank you Chris. This is an amazing development.
Great video for Raspberry Pi win 11 amazing it works. Learned something new and very interesting. thanks for sharing Peter, Love watching your videos.
Thanks Mike.
Another great and very informative video.For people who are just starting out with this tech, Explaining Computers is the best place to start.
This is really cool in concept.
I wonder how windows 10 behaved in the pi.
There are theories on old windows too but probably with a virtual machine unlike this.
Great video.
Thanks for this. Windows 3.1 runs well on a Pi using DOSBox: ua-cam.com/video/idHQk99E4VA/v-deo.html
Windows on arm ) I think that drives the final nail into "linux-as-desktop" coffin... So good!
Fascinating! Amazing! A fairly easy Windows 11 install that anyone can do! Nearly unbelievable! Simply wow! I can do that! Looking forward to your next video!
Greetings Perry. I was amazed that this worked so well.
@@ExplainingComputers A teen created it!
You are such a treasure to the entire world-wide computer community, sir. This new video is very interesting and actually a quite amazing development for demonstrating the incredible power and versatility of the Raspberry Pi computing platform. Thank you so much for producing it! You might consider making one small change in your video though. A more accurate title for it would be something along the lines of "How To Ruin An Otherwise Perfectly Good Raspberry Pi Computer." Except for that one tiny cavil, I cannot find anything to criticize in your video. You didn't even annoy us with the phrase, "magic of film-making" this time. Please carry on as usual then, our Good Dr. Barnatt!
Fortunately, you don’t really ruin the computer, but it could have been titled “How to waste a 32 GB SD card and 3-4 hours of your time!”. Of course, you can always overwrite that SD card, but the time is lost forever, other than educational benefits.
A big thing for this kind of processor architectures (ARM and RISC-V) over x86-64 and IA-86 (which we still use for majority of computers today) is that not only it benefits for small package design, portability, and energy usage, but also in ARM-based operating systems will have their own benefits in mobile operating systems (things like idling/standby with lowest power possible, asymmetric process, and others).
Unfortunately, majority of Windows applications were not optimized for ARM (or sluggish when running it on emulation), compared to macOS' Rosetta 2 emulation and Universal 2 binary (one app with both Intel and ARM bits). It would be grateful to see if majority of the Windows apps were fully optimized for ARM, just like the Universal 2 binary's up to.
Windows has never been optimised on anything - it has always been a bloated mess.
that "tea time" transition was smooth..
It will be interesting to review once video drivers are available to test DirectX compatibility on ARM. I appreciate you and the superb video.
Absolutely 👍
You channel is really good, thank you for the quality content
You are most welcome. Thanks for watching.
My friend is over my house snd now I am making sure he is enjoying this video
Excellent!
I immediately thought of "Flash Gordon" where the marquee text says something like "you will enjoy, or else!!"
I'm sleep deprived, forgive me.
@@djtyros i have no idea what the original this is but what you described was me lol
@@player07441 Watch the film "Flash Gordon" from 1980. dont look it up first, enjoy the surprise of a cult classic.
@@djtyros From tvtropes: At Ming's wedding, ships fly two banners in the background. The first says "All creatures shall make merry". The second says "Under pain of death".
Hey Chris, I really enjoy your videos.
Glad you like them!
What did the Snail say back to you? :-) Great video as usual.
I hope Windows ARM will encourage developers to offer more ARM software choices.
Interesting possibilities for Rasberry. Thanks for the video.
Wish you *WOULD HAVE* shown UA-cam even if it is really bad. It is hard to know how bad it is (it's bad on a lot of Pi distros) when we aren't shown anything. - 9:50
That's cool I didn't think it would run as well as it did
The video is was waiting for months is finally here
I got there in the end! :) I did a lot of checking on the legal side of this.
@@ExplainingComputers I knew that you might be checking the legal side this project that's you were bit late on making this amazing video
I'll hear that ending again in my nightmares. 😬
That's nice.
Need this guy to make this possible for the other pi clan
I am very curious about the chat you had with the second snail 🙂
Great review of the install steps. Good to see the Pi being so capable but surprised to see people still care about Windows.
It is nice to have this option for those who need Win11 on the Pi. I'm sure It'll be better when the graphic drivers are ready.
Meanwhile, there's nothing like having a heated discussion with a silent passing snail and going back inside acknowledging unequivocal defeat.
"...for those who need Win11 on the Pi." 🤣🤣
You are joking, right?
Fascinating! I'm surprised it was able to run that well.
I'll look at it on a 8GB unit. Just want to be able to change the music of my apple devises, and not just download the photos (which is the only thing I can do through Linux to date)... Great as always. Christopher, I just hope Itunes can be installed.
Thank you so much for making this video tutorial
You can use Chris's Titus techs script to remove bloat. It's called his debloater and it works woders
Does the debloater work on x64 systems aswell?
@@STORMFIRE07 Yep, just tried on a laptop from 2012
@@Ninnuam999 Thanks dude, will use it when I'll finally decide to upgrade to win 11, win 10 is working perfectly fine for me rn and i don't wanna ruin it lol
@@STORMFIRE07 oh, good question.
Thank you Chris for yet another interesting & informative video. Maybe in the not too distant future things will have developed to provide an ultra low power desktop capable of running Windows 12 or 13 (over to the dark side), he shivers now there's a thought. On the flip side I hope that Raspberry Pi will have matured further giving the competition a run for their money. :)
I was just about to check for the latest video, and up pops the notification.
Wow! :) UA-cam is working.
that cup of tea you made at 4:25 , was it Earl Grey or PG tips?
It was Tetley.
Thanks for making the video idea I suggested 😀
No problem! :) It was an interesting thing to try.
That looks like fun. I'll dig out my Pi400 when I get home and give it a go.
Hi Graham -- this is indeed a fun project to try. And it worked far better than I expected.
It's actually suprising that Windows ARM still uses UEFI for booting. Seeing how Apple uses its own method for booting with Apple Silicon makes me think that Microsoft will probably not restrict systems to only boot Windows once ARM on PCs goes mainstream. I have never been a fan of other ARM boot methods like iBoot (on Apple ARM devices), or the Android boot-method mainly because they feel very restrictive (with the whole bootloader unlocking/locking).
Another great video. Thank you Chris. When you had a tea break I saw a chocolate bar. What kind was it and was it your favourite? If not do you have a favourite? I am from Canada and did not recognize the brand. This kind of detail I find interesting as it adds to the detail and memories for a real person hosting a weekly show on youtube. Enjoy the week and I hope to see another video very soon.
I think it was a Yorkie bar. :)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkie_(chocolate_bar)
*HEY!* You didn't *_READ_* the Licence Agreement!
Ya, no one reads those long agreements and that's why they are becoming unenforceable in some jurisdictions as I understand it.
"Windows" is actually a Service running on Windows (NT) Native mode. Hardware manufacturers were expected to write the Native mode to hardwae code. That includes the file system code. Note 64-bit Windows is "AMD64", written by AMD to use AMD 64 bit extensions on their CPUs while intel promoted "Itanium" flop (HP PA-RISC architecture.)
WOR is a lot of fun. I look forward to when they get GPU drivers with acceleration working. Windows 11 is surprisingly good on an RPi 4. Nothing I'd use as a daily-driver (perhaps it could be with proper GPU support), but usable enough to play around and experiment with.
I guess if your idea of "fun" is "buying a computer and installing Microsoft's bloated OS on it just so Microsoft can own your computer to lease it back to you under their terms" then who am I to argue?
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Welcome to the new age, my dude. You've just described practically everything that connects to the internet.
If you like computers, don't limit yourself to only experimenting with the "superior" OS, whatever you think that is -- because, depending on what a person needs to do with their system, "superior" is highly relative.
@@davidg5898 Why are you quoting the word "superior" when that word didn't appear once in my comment?
@@terrydaktyllus1320 You're a very argumentative person today, aren't you?
Quotation marks are a typographical tool that can be used to convey emphasis similar to using *bold* or _italic_ typeface, in addition to their role of relaying what a person has said verbatim. When used for emphasis, they are generally done so to imply an incongruity with the rest of the statement.
Since the superiority of an OS is highly dependent on what tasks a user performs with their machine, the word does not properly apply without a specific context given for the performance being evaluated as superior or not superior.
Additionally, while you did not use that word, your denigration of Windows clearly implied that you believe there is at least one OS superior in every way to Windows.
@@davidg5898 "You're a very argumentative person today, aren't you?"
Let me understand that point correctly - what you are saying is that I more argumentative today than I have been on other days? So you're stalking me then?
Sonny, I just wanted to comment on how sh1t Windows is - you wanting to talk about me instead is not healthy.
Have you considered therapy?
Or getting some "flesh and blood" friends in real life rather than sitting up there in the spare bedroom of your parents' house on your mum's computer with just imaginary Internet friends?
Look, let me make this easy for you. This discussion is now closed.
Run along, mind how you go and stay away from sharp scissors, sonny.