Integrity in Governance: Analyzing the Integrity Commission's Findings
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Join Kwame Thomas on this week's episode of The Conversation as we analyze the recent findings from the Integrity Commission & their profound implications for Jamaica's political landscape. With serious allegations of illicit enrichment against Prime Minister Andrew Holness, we welcome attorney Clyde Williams & social commentator Germaine Barrett to discuss the critical role of the Integrity Commission in promoting transparency & accountability.
What do these developments mean for public trust in governance, & how can citizens actively demand greater integrity from their leaders? Don't miss this insightful discussion that matters to you!
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This Is A Concise Perspective On The Issue At Hand !!! Very Well Delivered !
That Mr. Clive Williams is remarkable, wow he’s a great attorney, are you youngster out there school kids pay attention, brilliant!
The most sensible comment here
I know him even before he studied law.He has matured intellectually and otherwise.
If Dekano F was c around he would be another great socially conscious mind.
I love you lord for your mercies never fail the year of revelations
That's so true. A lot of people who read the bible and believe in God know that its revelation time.
I love you Lord
Great panel, fair , just,and balance, helping to wolf back the moral fabric.
I feel very proud and happy about the conversations here by my country men exactly what we need to do separate investigators from government
Intelligent conversation👍🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲
I must commend you for the intelligent conversation. Thumbs up
Right is right and wrong is wrong there are no ways to define that.
IT IS EXACTLY THAT. HOW CAN THEY CHANGE THE LAWS IN THE MIDS OF INVESTIGATING THEM. MADNESS!
Excellent reasoning,intelligence at it's best ❤ and I learnt a whole lot.
One love my brothers
If you call those people Excellent intelligent.
then you have know intelligent yourself.
Fair presentation on this platform and great commentaries by your guests. Their take on the issues discussed was a breath of fresh air; fair and balance. I must say, however, that there should not be a model of any kind that takes down a govt or head of govt that has no backing from the electorate. It is the electorate that put the govt in power.
Power to the people
Tlhe fist thing that we need to do is have the PM step down to prevent him from manipulate and changing evidence
you will never see that day old bad mand people
Well done mr Clyde Williams to God be the glory
All these bodies should operate independently the government should not be able to control them but as it’s now under this present government is not operating independently therefore each one is looking to the other because the prime minister has the oversight of all these bodies all these bodies should be independent of the government even the DPP should be selected by a independent body
The I C went a head and hired a foreign organization to investigate, they didn't find any irregularities, with pm declaration. They leak info to the pnp to campaign on it. Then decided to call in the local body before they can verify it
Are we fast approaching the era where commissions e.g. IC need to be replaced by Large Language Models (LLM) such as Bart , ChatGPT etc. in order to encompass an unquestionable degree of Competence , Impartiality Fairness and Right Response plus lack of fear of Retribution ?
Note when you file you have to present the documents.
Mr Williams I like your style
I fully agree with the moderator that the IC is “passing the buck”, and I think they probably afraid of retribution. It is unfortunate that Jamaican politicians will continue, regardless of laws to engage in corruption and nepotism because they know that there are no consequences for their actions.
In the USA, it doesn’t matter who you are, you will be prosecuted for nefarious actions.
shut up yuh mouth trump is been found guilty and you talking about Jamaica
@@rbsbemotivated6160 You are part of the problem.
BRO, THE PM WIFE AND THE MAN WARMINGTON, IS PART OF THE IC OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING STICK IN THE SPOKES
@@rbsbemotivated6160DEM FI RELEASE THE SSL REPORT THOUGH.
You need to speak with an accountant .
Great panel, I have learnt a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
I like how Clive reason no government gets locked up in this affers go to court. He can't continue he should never be in this web
Mr Williams I like your comments
Thanks so much gentlemen
Very insightful program i have subscribed.
Keep it up.
This IC needs to be closed n restarted with fresh leadership
My brother think out of the box these things happen in other parts of the world what is good for the you is good for anyone else no matter your position or your status every one should be equal under the law
PEOPLE DESERVE A CHANCE.
Germaine, wants PM to resign while saying the IC screwed up.
How does this makes sense
For the people!
Good morning my friends why do I have to pay so much when I am late for making late payments as a 70 plus pensioner, without questions, I am still paying for these extra late. Charges. Am surprised of the chances given to the rich.
To skirt around a deluge of dishonesty parading as government procedures is exactly what is responsible for Jamaica’s failure , both at home and abroad. If the mantra is to lead by example, then all these thieves should be held accountable and be discharged from duty. No business or corporation can survive corruption without changing heads and for house cleaning to take place. This is the very reason why Jamaica has the highest murder rate in the world. Absolutely no concerted efforts are made to lead by example, so many of our citizens take example from what they see these sleazy corrupt politicians are able to accomplish.
Mr. Clive you are remarkably intelligent. On host path stop instigating the conversation on what the PM should or should not do. Your actions are what prompt jonpublic in disarray. Overall great interview.
After three years of investigation and hiring international forensic experts, where is the evidence that the Prime Minister did something wrong? The IC could have collaborated with FID and TAJ during the three years of investigation. This move is intended to do harm to the PM not intended to find the truth.
Holness' mental state is of little concern relative to Jamaica's reputation. Frankly he has enough money to afford a shrink. The man, if he has any decency, should step aside or call the general elections so that Jamaicans can decide whether they want him to continue to be the prime minister.
It doesn't matter there is something wrong, money in account without proof income how come this need to explain to the country
THE SSL REPORT!
Good conversation
I hope the report is posted on the web site that all Jamaican can read and understand. Mr. PM you should resign. If its PNP he will have to resign too.
Pnp would have to do with immediately effect
Andrew a behave like Jamaica house belong to him
Lol poor uno
@@AnnmarieEdwards-qg9foit belongs to mark golding the white man from england
It no belong to Mark Golding who behaving as if he's ruling. Move from ya so
My conclusion is that the IC is afraid to deal with the politicians , with the exception of Dwayne Vaz , Look at the time from 2009 to 2023 ,it took to deal with the PM, untill the statute of limitation expires. Shame .
So true so true
get the facts before you come here to write comment. Its not 2009. Its 2019.
So why table it after getting forisic investor who found ntn. Why not shows the forinsic report?
They got the help they needed from the foriegn agent to pick up pertinent stuff
Should the Auditor General be on the Integrity Commission? e.g who audits the IC and its officers
HE SHOULD BE PROCECUTE THEY ALL TOO EVIL 😈 IF IT WAS GHETTO YOUTH WEH DONT DO ANYTHING THEM DONE HIS YOUNG LIFE SIR IS CONANDREW HAVE THE FID IN HIS OWN OFFICE SO ONLY GOD CAN HELP 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Good question brother
We have to use a higher body, something like a supreme court, private court, and they report the matter for a prosecution to that higher court, that higher court will provide the judgment after the trial that would be the final
AGREE AT LEAST, TILL THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED.
Remember after the integrity commission reports been tabled the opposition party never get a chance to debate cause dictator parliament : so my questions to mr Williams what you do seeing as governament refuse to have debate?
Nonsense you talking, the question you should ask is how the Opposition knew before it was tabled how out of 63 only Mark Golding and 1 more have been certified, why we paying the IC and how FINSAC so clean how Mr Proven so clean a man who seems to be hiding his wife's age a man who running the carribean whit proven sweet heart deal with PM of Bahamas it's alleged all a dem corrupt and power does that
Why unno dunce do. Go read rules of parliament
I wonder what would happen if it was a PNP leader in this position?
He maybe in it soon.
I was wondering the same thing my friend
It wouldn't because he has everything off shore and in trust funds... so all we will do is add and we won't know
Sympson miller and PJ same thing and worst and they haven’t resined Campbell and Omar Davis with the people investment who succeed bunting and mark who trying to becomes. Leader Darin& bunting cannot goes away we need fresh blood Lisa and Damian and other s young blood
Not investment lone but pm signed them the merriment the no corruption should take likely and should hold a countable for 😢
Send him to prison
IF IT WAS PNP YOU LOTS WOULD BE HAPPY TO TEAR THEM.DOWN SO WHOM IS THE CONANDREW THAT HIM CANT RESIGN?HELLO WHAT ABOUT 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲PEOPLE HIM CSNT SUE NO ONE A FRAUDSTERS THEM SUCH HYPOCRITES DID HIM CONANDREW GIVE THE PNP TO DEBATES NO HE DID NOT
It is amazing how people listen and make conclusions that have nothing to do with what the panelists are saying.
Look what was meted out to Dwayne Vaz who's accusations was not even half of what this man is being.accused of.We ain't no fools 😴😴😴🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
3 things. Tax Evasion, Money Laundering and Insiders Tracing. Guilty
PM MUST RESIGN GOOO RUN YOU 3 COMPANIES AND 28 ACCOUNTS
I have eighteen bank accounts between Jamaica and the UK unuh Jamaican are very bitter.
@PrioryCampion which country you are the Prime Minister of ??
You sound bitter and bad mind. Its not the PM fault why you dont have 3 companies and 28 bank account. You just fukin bad mind.
Jamaicans wake up
Mr. Claude Williams is rose why we lose dovan dilisser case
WHAT 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲DO TO THIS GUY BUT KEEP VOTING 🗳 HIM IN POWER IF HIM NEVER WRONG HIM WOULDNT GAG THE IC SUDDENLY
CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION.
And give him lawyer, anybody goes all criminals go to the JLPConfrence remember gunshot also fired at JlP confrence, when Bruce Golding was prime minister.
We're those criminals paraded on stage...was the party endorsing them publicly
This top is not for this forum now , listen n learn
THEM CANT AMMEND NOTHING HIM TOO OUT OF ORDER WHY IS NO ONE SAYING THE GUY PUTS GAG ORDER ON IC
Clive Williams was a PNP Executive and alledgedly still a member. You should declare that.
I believe the reason why the commision by pass the other entitys and go streath to the FID is because the rulling goverment party is not infavor with the ITC
THEM TRY TO SHUT THE IC DOWN DPP IS THE WORST WRETCHED TO BRING A CASE ON CONANDREW
They need to get Financial Accountants to explain to the public the Financial aspect of the report. You file tax on your profit not on your income. If there is no profit there is no tax on losses.
my mine was like wow
Why unno two don't tell the prime minister to give all information that the ic to do their job to the fullest
You cannot file tax return on income you file tax return on profit Clyde….. if a director injects capital income in a company how can that be confused with profit?…. Know the details of Financial accounting before commenting on such please
Even if a company makes zero profit or runs at a loss, you’re still required to file taxes by law.
Well time change
Butbthe PM knew a while year ago that he is being investigated but Mr dictator thought he was untouchables and he could do whatever he wants because he own Jamaica 🇯🇲
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U people remember the universe god is the judge.father and mothers have the prime responsibility to train there children
The agency are afraid of the the prime minister so he can do or say anything in the country and get away with it, the ic are afraid of the pm ,so it can't do it job properly
ALL ME KNOWS IF ITBWAS ANY LOCAL PERSON A PRISON STRAIGHT ALL THIS CANT HAPPENS IN 🏴👑🇬🇧🇺🇲🇨🇦 TO AP PM HE WOULD BE CHARGE ALREADY OR HAVE TO RESIGN
Or exonerated
THIS IS VERY WRONG &DISHONEST TO TAXPAYERS 🇯🇲🇯🇲&DIASPORAS HIM DECEIVES US ALL HIM COMES LIARDEST EVERYTIME TO THE PUBLIC NOW HIM CLOSE PARLIMENT TUESDAY HIM MUST RESIGN WITH IMMEDIATELY EFFECTS
Please tell markie g to step down for not been truthful when they find out he is a british citisn
Hey Ceen Tv your microphone is too low. up the mic volume on the recording before uploading on UA-cam
This commission need to go and will be fired
Great conversation, excellent points and most of the responses were fair. Just a little flip flop from one particular panel member as his first statement on the PM that he should resign, then in the middle of the discussion he retracts.
So if u don't think thats what the pm,why mentioned that remarks
The pm should have defended his integrity to the IC that it cinclusion would be beyond doubt but in truth the IC is afraid to call the charges they are passing the baton
Don't you think that a PM's duty is to steer clear of controversies such as these to maintain the highest calibre of integrity and decency in his territory? All of the intricacies outlined by these brilliant minds can be easily twisted in favor of the PM, yet such exonerated recompense will still be dealt a devastating blow when it's gets down to image.
HIM GUILTY OF ILLICIT ENRICHMENT. TAKE ME TO COURT, LET ME PROVE IT 😂😂😂😂
Jam411 breaks it down. You are not financial analysis, you talking g crop why you don't get people to speak wigh. That background
Everyone's is confused, just like the reports. Smh, typical Jamaica .
The more this Jamaican prime minister and government officials gets off the hook, the more their corrupt schemes expand. For these hosts and investigators to exhibit remarkable intelligence ,but at the same time,severely lacks prudence in calling a spade a spade is exactly what these corrupt politicians in Jamaica would rather have permeating the public space. Note well that the situation that I have described serves as a catalyst to only further consolidate their web of corruption. It’s way past time to bell the cat . You are what your record says you are!
HIM MUST NOT GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS NOW HIM COME A CHAT AS IF HIM NEVER WRONG HIM FI PAYS UP HIS TAXES AS NO🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 CAN RUN BUSINESS WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES OR ELSE THEM A GO A PRISON
That where it is now? Is not paying tax everytime the true come out, something come up
U made u judgement already said pm fi step down
Mr Williams I would use you as my attorney
R u saying that a man goes to prison then hes not suppose to be with d public cause hes a treat
Some a the politician them worst than kartel.
So I don’t hear you guys said he went on TV and be a judge
It communicate it to their party. Its not new entity
EVEN SO, THIS GOVERNMENT HAS QUITE A FEW FELONS.
Well said Clyde. You're balanced! I agree with you about the IC's approach.
WHY IS PM HIDING THE SSL REPORT?
THAT MP IS TOO THEIF, HE IS THE OWENER FOR THOSE COMPANIES
Integrity Commission dropped the ball!! Even the baby on the breast can tell this is very questionable and reeks ILLICIT ENRICHMENT!!!
Mathematics is a great discipline... It allows one to subtly identify Maximum Turning Points, Minimum Turning Points and Points of Inflections.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤕🤨🤔🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
Defending his integrity when 2 active accounts return 0 income tax using charity monies to purchase personal bonds having accounts with money and not telling the source of those funds pm needs to answer those questions and more
Mark goldfish does the same thing 20million us in Bahamas to build houses
Clive had it been the jlp bring Kartel on their platform would you be talking like this ?
Woukd the jlp be stupid enough to do such a thing
U mad!! It wouldn't stop here all of society would be on it
PEANUT DREAD WAS IN PARLIAMENT DONT?
THE SSL REPORT WOULD CLARIFY EVERYTHING.....
They need to investigate Mark Golding just as how they did Anju include his off shore assets
Clive behaves as if he wrote the laws /bylaws for the IC! When systems of integrity are put in place, people like these try to discredit and destroy it!
It is tainted bcuz it's pnp