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КОМЕНТАРІ • 137

  • @TallyHoTech
    @TallyHoTech  3 роки тому +20

    Ryzen 5 actually has 7 cores (1 for GPU) and you can get the Ryzen 7 in the 13.5” business model.

    • @super_hero2
      @super_hero2 3 роки тому +3

      What is wrong with Microsoft? They already made the move to AMD why can’t they use better AMD cpus in these laptops. Do you happen to run geek bench and cinebench on these AMD and Intel laptops?

    • @asandax6
      @asandax6 3 роки тому +1

      We don't use GPU and CPU cores together. It has a 6 core CPU and an iGPU

    • @madhankumar2051
      @madhankumar2051 3 роки тому +2

      below is the correct statement . above comment doesn't make sense .
      Surface edition Ryzen 5 processors have 6 CPU cores and 7 GPU cores .
      Ryzen 5 used in other laptops have 6 CPU cores and 6 GPU cores .
      After processor fabrication :
      if all 8 GPU cores work it becomes a Ryzen 7
      if 1 GPU core fail then it gets rebranded as a Surface edition Ryzen 5 processor.
      it 2 GPU cores fail then it gets branded a Normal Ryzen 5 processor .
      if more than 2 GPU cores fail then it becomes Ryzen 3.
      www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-4680u-microsoft-surface-edition
      www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-4600u

  • @torpedospurs
    @torpedospurs 3 роки тому +20

    Ryzen 7 for 13.5" is available as a business model.

  • @runninginthe90s75
    @runninginthe90s75 3 роки тому +6

    I rather choose Intel options, its because Intel Tiger lake performs better on virtualization such as emulation also XE graphics is better than Vega on ryzen.

  • @torpedospurs
    @torpedospurs 3 роки тому +5

    The 13.5" 3x2 has almost exactly the same area as the 14" 16x9. The 15" is 23.4% bigger than the 13.5", and the 15.6" 16x9 is 24.2% bigger than the 14". So if people appreciate the size differene between 14" and 15.6" at 16x9, they will appreciate the difference between 13.5" and 15" at 3x2.

  • @kaivamannam5636
    @kaivamannam5636 3 роки тому +4

    Microsoft makes this choice even more difficult by only offering the Ice Blue color on Intel

  • @antoniobrajkovic1977
    @antoniobrajkovic1977 3 роки тому +4

    With these prices and abysmal performance discrepancy in certain cases, the only thing that matters is battery life.

  • @jonoy4375
    @jonoy4375 Рік тому +1

    This is true that aspect 3:2 does give larger display area. Surface 13.5 has 10% larger display area than Dell XPS 13.4

  • @Jhan.Aballe
    @Jhan.Aballe 3 роки тому +6

    With all honesty, the specs sound so great about the new SL4, but the sad thing is, is that people who'd wish to purchase these laptops in person such as third-party stores, could only get a limited amount of range on these laptops... such as including myself, which is a pain.
    p.s first time ever watching your channel, and so far I actually find you to be a reliable source :P

  • @imopn
    @imopn 3 роки тому +5

    Wish they did a 17inch 4k version with Ryzen and 32gb of ram

  • @amo_res9266
    @amo_res9266 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks Microsoft, now im stuck between getting an M1 macbook air or this new surface laptop. I have the iphone 12 so i think it would make more sense with Macs but the surface seems so good too

    • @bhuvana7401
      @bhuvana7401 3 роки тому +2

      Omg same😭 I really like how beautiful the SL4 sandstone looks but I also want m1 for better video editing etc

    • @rejectedgem3333
      @rejectedgem3333 3 роки тому +1

      @@bhuvana7401 get the macbook air

    • @Moonlight-26
      @Moonlight-26 3 роки тому

      It’s been 2 months laters, what option did you choose. I’m in a similar situation.

    • @amo_res9266
      @amo_res9266 3 роки тому +1

      @@Moonlight-26 i stilll havent bought one yet. But i’m going for Macbook air m1, especially when u buy it at a discount on apple’s education pricing, and u get free airpods

    • @Moonlight-26
      @Moonlight-26 3 роки тому

      @@amo_res9266 oh i didn’t know they had offers like that. Thank you. 🤝

  • @SpineMDT
    @SpineMDT 2 роки тому +1

    on the Microsoft website the 16gb Ryzen is no longer shown for the 13.5". Can only get he Ryzen with 8GB. If you want 16GB, have to get intel. Why have they stopped it?

  • @Felix_EN
    @Felix_EN 3 роки тому +9

    The fact of the matter is that for 99% of people, all laptops be it intel, amd or arm are fast enough for most use cases. The matter of concern is good optimization and integration and for that, M1 wins hands down. The silent fanless performance, long battery life and optimized software is amazing.

    • @TallyHoTech
      @TallyHoTech  3 роки тому +7

      Right on. Although Microsoft said they specifically worked with AMD and Intel to optimise Windows and the chips in the Surface Laptop 4.
      The proof of the pudding will be in the tasting.

    • @battlebuddy4517
      @battlebuddy4517 3 роки тому +1

      To be far it's apple software for much part in terms of optimization of m1

  • @salesforcehan4676
    @salesforcehan4676 3 роки тому +1

    i5 16gb 13.5 inch - Sandstone. If they had 32gb for the Sandstone trim I would have gotten the i7 but they only manufactured that configuration for Black Metal, which is extremely unfortunate. I'm still really happy with my purchase, coming over from Mac, the feel of this laptop is unbeatable. I would get Sandstone above all though. Recommend anyone who is considering this product to go Best Buy to try em out or where they have it for testing.

  • @duchenedesignsolutions7036
    @duchenedesignsolutions7036 3 роки тому +8

    Now that you have seen tiger lake for a while now, what are your thoughts about i5 vs i7. I have seen where the i7 will throttle down a bit in smaller machines like this and will really perform like an i5 and have seen the i5 actually outperform the i7 in some cases. I got the i5 and I think I made the right choice but I like to hear your opinions. Thanks a lot!

  • @mirkodiciano4647
    @mirkodiciano4647 3 роки тому +11

    great video mate I would go with the m1 for general use and work

  • @vatssaraf897
    @vatssaraf897 2 роки тому

    This is a great video I have been confused for so long as what variant to buy and this video really helped me.

  • @DonaldHawk
    @DonaldHawk 3 роки тому +1

    Been going round and round on configurations for past week. Have a M1 Mac but need a Windows machine for some specific software. Want the 3:2 aspect ratio of these machines for programming.

  • @NicolaMastrandrea
    @NicolaMastrandrea 3 роки тому +4

    Am I the only one who is totally not interested in windows and x86 laptops anymore? I had the SP3. I have not seen the integration from HW and SW and pricing is definitively too high for what you actually get.

    • @adityams1659
      @adityams1659 3 роки тому +2

      🙌🏻 This is so true man..M1 has totally changed the industry...for the ppl who are interested to buy a laptop...wait if u can for the M1X/M2 its worth it...is u cant wait just go with the AirM1 16GB if u are doing anything intense like video editing, trust me i own 8GB variant, its not slow but it uses a lot of swap. In a nutshell it uses ur SSD as a RAM and its not good for ur SSD. Else just get the 8GB u wont regret it!

    • @NicolaMastrandrea
      @NicolaMastrandrea 3 роки тому +1

      @@adityams1659 I have a 16gb M1 Mac Mini. It is so worth it. I am using it as my main machine for sw development, not intense graphics works and general productivity. Never seen anything so fast in single core tasks.

    • @monara97
      @monara97 3 роки тому

      @@adityams1659 have you tried switching to safari? my 16GB M1 Air used to have over 100GB daily writes. (probably would have last 5years at that phase)
      switched to safari now daily writes are at ~10GB. (means it will take 30+ years to fail the SSD)
      few channels pointed out that all browsers except safari writes data to the SSD by default. I tried disabling it in chrome and SSD swap writes was like ~20GB per day. eventually I started to use safari. for me its not that bad.
      I haven't pushed my machine hard tho I'm a SWE student so still doing basic shit 😅 so there might be other aspects as well. what I stated above is all above is all about web browsing.

    • @adityams1659
      @adityams1659 3 роки тому +2

      @@NicolaMastrandrea yep i must give it to apple this time...its coming from an apple critique..I myself use a mac now..and its my 1st

    • @NicolaMastrandrea
      @NicolaMastrandrea 3 роки тому +2

      @@adityams1659 So do I. I've been a Windows and Linux user for more than 15 years. Now my Windows Desktop is for Gaming only and my little Linux Server for production and data storage.

  • @monara97
    @monara97 3 роки тому +1

    great one mate 👍🏻 you always talk sense

  • @dawgcanjumphigh
    @dawgcanjumphigh 3 роки тому +2

    I'd get the Ryzen. Intel is done.

  • @andrewlawrence5299
    @andrewlawrence5299 3 роки тому +2

    Just picked up that 15 inch Ryzen 7, 16GB RAM and 512 SSD for $1500 USD... Couldn’t believe my eyes.

    • @carlosortega8643
      @carlosortega8643 3 роки тому

      Hows it held up so far ?

    • @andrewlawrence5299
      @andrewlawrence5299 3 роки тому +1

      @@carlosortega8643 I’d say I’m impressed with the performance and overall feel. One thing I do not like is facial recognition in the dark is nowhere as good as Apple’s. Also if you close the laptop and come back to it later video playback sometimes lags for a moment.

    • @carlosortega8643
      @carlosortega8643 3 роки тому +1

      @@andrewlawrence5299 awesome thanks for the feedback. Ive looked at the options that you said , and its worth $1700 . 15' Ryzen , 16gb ram, and 512 SSD. Did you have a promotion code or something ?

    • @andrewlawrence5299
      @andrewlawrence5299 3 роки тому +1

      @@carlosortega8643 Military/Student discount

  • @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll
    @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll 3 роки тому +1

    nice video...what do you think, any hope for Ryzen 5000s in the Surface Book 4?

    • @skippy336
      @skippy336 3 роки тому

      Yes i think in my oppinion but its most likley gonna be next year

  • @haiiello
    @haiiello 3 роки тому +1

    is the Dell G5 Gaming Desktop worth it?

  • @remnantsstudios
    @remnantsstudios 3 роки тому +1

    For video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro purposes how do you think a 15" i7/16gb/512gb ssd SL4 will perform? Will it suffice or should I be looking for something with a dedicated GPU such as the XPS 15? Thanks!

    • @brianmateo8041
      @brianmateo8041 3 роки тому

      You should look for something with dedicated gpu

    • @bhuvana7401
      @bhuvana7401 3 роки тому

      @@brianmateo8041 great point!

  • @agupz
    @agupz 2 роки тому

    so right now the I-5 8 gb ram is $850 is it worth getting this instead if the M1 and the amd ryzen 5 with 16 gb of ram?

  • @lieutenantpepper2734
    @lieutenantpepper2734 3 роки тому +1

    Ryzen seems a better deal overall. Price Performance. People dont use adobe as much since there is affinity designer and Davinci resolve.

    • @KaitoTenjo107
      @KaitoTenjo107 3 роки тому

      I want a laptop where I can do both photo and video editing. So if I were to get the AMD version. It will be able to run them with no problem? Or is the Intel version better?

  • @ricerous330
    @ricerous330 3 роки тому +2

    So Tally is there any windows laptop better than the M1 macs?
    Because these Macs are really performing extra something. If I am editing videos and coding, is it better on a Mac or Windows?

    • @asandax6
      @asandax6 3 роки тому +3

      For the Best of everything get AMD Laptop.

    • @miyagiryota9238
      @miyagiryota9238 3 роки тому +1

      @@asandax6 agree 100%

    • @simply6162
      @simply6162 3 роки тому +1

      Mac for sure it trumps any windows laptop in that regard they are unstoppable

    • @daimlerlm6381
      @daimlerlm6381 3 роки тому +1

      check first if the apps your planning to use is M1 optimized before purchasing, and if it is. than don't hassle to buy the M1.

    • @simply6162
      @simply6162 3 роки тому +1

      @@daimlerlm6381 even if it’s unoptimized they still perform better than intel that’s how powerful m1 is

  • @waytakaq
    @waytakaq 3 роки тому +2

    Bad boy Microsoft I think they hate AMD fams because they choose a lower version of AMD but the highest for Intel 😔

  • @StanslaMichael
    @StanslaMichael 3 роки тому +1

    Great Review.

  • @ganxe
    @ganxe 3 роки тому +1

    What is a multicore usage for example. Thanks.

  • @genji1303
    @genji1303 3 роки тому +1

    I work in finance and have heavy excell use. Should I buy the surface laptop 15' intel or amd version?

    • @daimlerlm6381
      @daimlerlm6381 3 роки тому

      get the m1 if you have MS0365 subscription couz its now optimized

    • @genji1303
      @genji1303 3 роки тому

      @@daimlerlm6381 I need windows

    • @daimlerlm6381
      @daimlerlm6381 3 роки тому +1

      @@genji1303 than get the amd instead if it's for office work only

    • @genji1303
      @genji1303 3 роки тому

      @@daimlerlm6381 thank you daimler Lm

  • @7billza
    @7billza 3 роки тому +8

    Unless they massively cut the price after the launch, it's absurd to buy these over the M1 MacBook air. Apple is so far ahead of the competition and the price is so competitive that unless you're on a budget (which you wouldn't be looking at these) or require Windows (though I bet Rosetta can run better than native Windows), most people would be better off buying Apple.
    This coming from a lifelong Windows user seriously considering buying my first mac

    • @TallyHoTech
      @TallyHoTech  3 роки тому +1

      That’s right. There will be up to 20% deals

    • @runninginthe90s75
      @runninginthe90s75 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah good luck with M1 mac. The first Mac to be "anti upgrade"

  • @johnfung1080
    @johnfung1080 3 роки тому +2

    I'm still rocking my SL1 and want to upgrade it to SL4 but I'm disappointed that they don't have metal platinum for 13.5".

    • @dev1lm4n63
      @dev1lm4n63 3 роки тому +1

      Wait for SL5 when they upgrade to Alder Lake and Zen 4 and most likely have a redesign as well, probably gonna come start of 2022

    • @border4554
      @border4554 3 роки тому +3

      Honestly I prefer the alcantara over the metal build. I've had both. The metal gets hot and you notice the temperature more. You don't notice how hot it gets with the alcantara

    • @bhuvana7401
      @bhuvana7401 3 роки тому +1

      @@border4554 is alcantara easy to maintain and clean?

    • @hard2bear3110
      @hard2bear3110 3 роки тому

      @@dev1lm4n63 that's what I'm debating doing

    • @tehlion7430
      @tehlion7430 2 роки тому

      after using the SL1 for almost 5 years, the alcantara has started to heavily peal at the sides and look discolored so i copped it and bought a metal SL4

  • @adinchandra1797
    @adinchandra1797 3 роки тому +3

    I don't know if Microsoft have Released Surface Laptop 4
    But Why.... I don't see their new Video on their Official Channel

  • @RookieRay
    @RookieRay 3 роки тому

    Holly cow look how many subs you have now!!!!

  • @tld8102
    @tld8102 3 роки тому

    You know how 11th gen intel is only competitive with 4th gen ryzen.... and we know how intel has been paying off laptop manufacturers to only offer intel processesers.... what is the possibility that intel has been meddling with Microsoft surface? To prevent Microsoft from offering 5th gen ryzen?

  • @vipulwaghmode29
    @vipulwaghmode29 3 роки тому

    Do surface laptop 4, AMD Ryzen 5 , run 3d modelling software like SOLIDWORKS and CATIA?
    (I am mechanical engineering student , so I won't do any big complicated modelling).
    Your reply would be really appreciable.

    • @manalmawari870
      @manalmawari870 2 роки тому

      did u end up buying it? im currently an engineering student and need am considering this laptop with 16gb ram, ryzen 5, and 256gb storage. Let me know how it worked for you if you did buy it!

  • @vimzify
    @vimzify 3 роки тому +3

    Which configuration is good for 3D CAD modelling and little of Animation work?

    • @costacoffee4life665
      @costacoffee4life665 3 роки тому +1

      Look at the difference between single and multi core performance and find out whether CAD uses single or multi-core. Off the top of my head, I THINK it uses single core.

    • @asandax6
      @asandax6 3 роки тому +1

      For CAD Software I used to use Campus Computers at my Uni They had core i5 8000 series and RX570s. Now I have my own computer at home and it has only a Ryzen 5 4560G and All CAD software run fine. Blender also Runs fine. I used the BMW Benchmark and it took 3 Minutes to render it.

  • @canadiawhat
    @canadiawhat 3 роки тому +1

    This video should have explained what "multicore stuff" is. No idea what you were talking about.

  • @safuan2009
    @safuan2009 3 роки тому

    M1 all the way, unless i need to do PC stuff i use a gaming rig not a laptop. The scrap cips given to pevious laptops are costing me money in Electricity bill.

  • @thetalldutchman
    @thetalldutchman 3 роки тому

    Do the same as I did a decade ago, after talking to Microsoft, buy a Mac and run windows on it

  • @niatech5337
    @niatech5337 Рік тому

    can we charge this laptop with USB C charger ?

  • @christopherlayana6957
    @christopherlayana6957 3 роки тому

    Runescape 3 amd or intel iris xe?

  • @msp5138
    @msp5138 3 роки тому +6

    Stopped watching after you mentioned M1 Macbook. Yet another UA-camr promoting Apple products in a non-Apple review.

    • @TallyHoTech
      @TallyHoTech  3 роки тому +3

      Who hurt you?

    • @periodt5264
      @periodt5264 3 роки тому +1

      It’s called a comparison dumb ass

    • @msp5138
      @msp5138 3 роки тому +1

      @@periodt5264 Then why not other Windows laptops such Dell, HP, Lenovo, ASUS, etc? Now who is the dumb ass...lol

    • @msp5138
      @msp5138 3 роки тому +1

      @@TallyHoTech Thanks for addressing my issue...

    • @greciachong7787
      @greciachong7787 3 роки тому

      @@msp5138 maybe because he was trying to compare similar laptops, becuase lenovo has nothing to do with microsoft. Microsoft has a similar same or better power than apple I hope i explained myself.

  • @davidoneill2983
    @davidoneill2983 2 роки тому

    have these gone up HEAPS in price lately?

  • @alandiegovillalobos
    @alandiegovillalobos 3 роки тому +1

    Adobe not optimized for amd or m1... Seems like Adobe is the problem.

    • @TallyHoTech
      @TallyHoTech  3 роки тому +2

      Yep. I was just making an example of myself and you can make your own 👍

    • @alandiegovillalobos
      @alandiegovillalobos 3 роки тому +3

      @@TallyHoTech adobe really needs to get with the times

  • @Terreos
    @Terreos 3 роки тому

    No thunderbolt? Come on Microsoft. I’d rather go with an xps 13 or hp spectre.

  • @angzander8536
    @angzander8536 3 роки тому +3

    Is this laptop better then the m1 Mac?

    • @TallyHoTech
      @TallyHoTech  3 роки тому +7

      For? At the base $999 I would go MacBook Ait

    • @angzander8536
      @angzander8536 3 роки тому +2

      @@TallyHoTech thank you so much for the reply! I never own a macbook before. May try it.

    • @apathak34
      @apathak34 3 роки тому +2

      No, Mac is better

    • @Dare2Blink
      @Dare2Blink 3 роки тому +6

      Depends what you want to do with it. Remember that macs are very limited with regards to ports and you don't get a touch screen. Also take into account what programs you use.

    • @angzander8536
      @angzander8536 3 роки тому +1

      @@Dare2Blink I having surface laptop 3 for 1 years plus now, thinking of getting MacBook and feel the ecosystem. Thank you so much for your reply.

  • @riopato2009
    @riopato2009 3 роки тому +3

    There's no excuse for that bezel

    • @Sant270
      @Sant270 3 роки тому +2

      There is. Is because they are lazy.

  • @mahdimuhamad3482
    @mahdimuhamad3482 3 роки тому

    I have a question of how much companies pay to review their product, please get an answer please

  • @miyagiryota9238
    @miyagiryota9238 3 роки тому

    Ryzen FTW!

  • @kamm3021
    @kamm3021 3 роки тому

    F*** intel old hardware
    Amd has 7nm and more powerful let's goooo

  • @user-he7zf2pp4w
    @user-he7zf2pp4w 3 роки тому

    Bursty activity lol

  • @hellslayer9638
    @hellslayer9638 3 роки тому +2

    i would choose mac over surface any day , alot of things are better with macs os is one of them

    • @TallyHoTech
      @TallyHoTech  3 роки тому +1

      👍 good to know

    • @hellslayer9638
      @hellslayer9638 3 роки тому

      @@TallyHoTech whats your prefered os ??? video editing aside

    • @bizmonkey007
      @bizmonkey007 3 роки тому +2

      The M1 MacBooks are great, but besides the processing power they’re a bit of a step down from my current device, the Surface Book 2. The SB2 has a better and slightly bigger screen, a superior keyboard, and a more flexible design. The only reason I’d buy, and am thinking of buying, an M1 is for FCPX and the overall value. For a thousand dollars, you get a very capable machine m that’s far cheaper than the newest SB.

  • @siulapwa
    @siulapwa 8 місяців тому

    Metal or Alcantara