SYIL X4 CNC Mill Teknic Clearpath SDSK Centroid Acorn Project: Bench Testing
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- 3/11/21: ADDED: Move the C86ACCP Jumpers to 1-2 SOFT ENABLE. This will allow resetting of the Clearpath motors should they fault by cycling the Estop button. Servo motor rotors will not lock until CNC12 is in the READY state.
Stay Up to date by following my build thread on the Centroid User's Forum: centroidcncfor...
I go over connecting all the Teknic Clearpath components, Acorn, C86ACCP interface board and setting up CNC12 for the basic bench test of the system.
Links/Videos:
Clearpath SD Overview: • ClearPath-SD (Step and...
Clearpath SD Fractional Accessories: • ClearPath SD Servo Fra...
Clearpath Integrated Servo Motor Video discusses SDSK and SDHP along with demonstrating stalling a stepper motor (open loop) vs. "trying" to stall an SD Motor: • Watch a ClearPath Inte...
Clearpath SDSK Installation Manual: www.teknic.com...
Centroid Acorn: www.centroidcn...
CNC4PC.com C86ACCP: www.cnc4pc.com...
Thank you Marty! Followed this guide and got my ClearPath servos working properly! Excellent demonstration!
Nice work Marty, The CNC4PC boards are a real time saver. Really good explanation and demo
Hi Marty a good short and accurate video of setting up and connecting Acorn and Clearpath, and thanks for your support. keep up the good work from Poul in Denmark :-)
This is a timely series...Am about to build an Acorn/Clearpath motion system.
Very nice instrucional video, Thanks Marty
Hello Marty. I have a question on the C86ACCP. I recently installed the board, the new one with the flying lead terminal blocks. I see in the GCnC Revisions manual that you have wire jumpers in the two position flying lead blocks. Are these necessary when using the molex plugs. I ask because I seem to have to have input 5 set to NO red circle. If set to NC drive fault occurs upon any movement. I wired everything else as per your video.
I am unaware of this. However, I am going to be setting up a Clearpath SDSK system up soon and if there is something new or different, I'll post an update video on that subject
You should post to the Centroid User Forum be sure to let everyone know what schematic you used and the excerpt from the manual you are quoting. Always post a fresh report as well. I have not been active because I've had some personal projects and they've only multiplied
Hi Marty, I added a post on the centroid forum as of today.@@martyscncgarage5275
@@avpriority just did basic bench test. Will be bench testing the Clearpath servos soon in between projects. Let me know what you learn and likewise I'll get back with you when I get to that point.
Hey Marty, if i have the relay output 1 occupied by my e-stop contractor circuit, can i leave the red jumper that comes with the c86 board in there? Do i need to move the acorn enable jumper to on?
Many ways to accomplish things. I would run the no fault from C86ACCP through a set of contacts on the Estop contactor. Safety
@@martyscncgarage5275 Does that mean just simply wiring the c86 to the NO contact and back to c86? May i ask what that accomplished?
@@janvirbrar4181 disables C86ACCP in the case of an Estop press or fault. You are removing power from the IPC-5, accomplishes the same thing
@@martyscncgarage5275 I am already during power or ipc5 in the event of e-stop so can i just leave the red jumper in the c86?
@@janvirbrar4181 yes, I suppose you can. Bottom line, During Estop/fault, you want axis drives and spindle disabled (or whatever your cutting device is)
I may have set up my mill and lathe incorrectly. I thought the standard SDSK motor resolution was 800 per rev. And the enhanced versions were closer to 6400. They are working, should I change my settings?
If you got standard SDSK you can leave them if the machine is performing well. Easy to change though....
@@martyscncgarage5275 Would you need to re-run the auto tune after changing the input resolution? I auto tuned at my default of 800, but recognize the Acorn wants to see 6400, so I’m thinking of changing it. (However, like you, my machine shouldn’t actually require the 6400 resolution).
@@kyleb4587 No, you should not need to retune. Won't hurt if you did.
Did you configure the sdsk's high level outputs to monitor for drive ready/ drive fault? I am a little confused by this on my setup
Andrew, do yourself a favor and buy the C86ACCP from CNC4PC.com. best $50 you'll spend and it handles everything. In about two weeks, they'll have a version with both molex and terminal blocks for the Clearpath signal cable
My Z axis faults ?
Any ideas as what could cause this or where to look
The X & Y are running fine
Need help to solve the fault issue
Thanks
If a Centroid Acorn system, please post to the Centroid Users Forum with details about your build, pictures, which drives and motors etc
Good demo Marty! Say... how much money you you think it's on that table? Ciao, Marco.
I will summarize the build in the end but the Teknic tab is just over $2k.
@@martyscncgarage5275 Thanks Marty. Just trying to get a general idea of the cost of upgrading a generic mill with the same equipment.
Does the C86 ACCP provide the pull up resistors required by Teknic? If not, how will you add them?
Go check my post on my build thread on the Centroid Acorn User's forum. 😉 centroidcncforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=5389
Hey Marty, thanks for making this video! What’s your thoughts on clear path vs dmm?
We are about to gut our Laguna Smartshop 2 and retrofit it, torn between the clear path and dmm. Thanks my friend.
I hope you are going to go with Centroid Acorn? Post photos of the inside of the Laguna control cabinet, one of the Axis motors if possible and the model number of the existing drive. centroidcncforum.com/viewforum.php?f=60 Easiest route is to keep the existing drives and motors and simply go with Centroid Acorn. So far, I like the Clearpath solution because the drives are on the motor. Can you crimp Molex Minifit Jr. connectors? Post to the Centroid forum....
@@martyscncgarage5275 we’ve been discussing the masso g3. I’ll get some picture later today.
The existing controller is all B&R which isn’t bad, but the drivers do t speak step and direction they are a proprietary language from B&R- thus the reason we are gutting it and starting over.
It’s a closed system so we can’t do any upgrades like switching out stepper motors for the clear path.
I’ll definitely check out the forum and look more into acorn.
Thank you for replying so fast! Great work here on your channel.
Btw: We are in Texas and everything is frozen, we shut down the business until things clear up a bit. I’ll get pictures hopefully today.
@@aaronmathew642 Centroid has been doing CNC Machine motion control and their own software for over 30 years. Check out my channel for others Acorn videos. If your machine accepts step and direction, I could have it running in a day. Centroid also supports linear router tool changers.
@@martyscncgarage5275 thanks for the info, definitely doing some research into Centroid today.
The only thing about centroid I’m not a fan of is the interface. It’s very dated and reminds me of the MS doss days. Haha but that has nothing to do with functionality or reliability.
@@aaronmathew642 come on. You want pretty or very functional and reliable....I'd rethink that one....
Are teknic servos same as clearpath ?
Yes, Teknic makes the Clearpath SDSK servos
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Wanting to switch over to centroid on a multicam cam 2000 laser cutter, using as much as i can, they use teknic drives and servos but this is all new to me but think i can manage if taking step at a time
@@laserfalcon you need to identify which Teknic clear path motors and drives you have and how they are controlled first. Especially if you plan on using Centroid Acorn. They must be able to take step and direction signals. I suggest you get the drive and axis motor model/serial numbers and give Teknic a call and ask to talk to an Applications Engineer. They are most helpful
@@martyscncgarage5275 Thanks for that advice
can the input terminals on the acorn receive 24v signal
No, Acorn inputs stand at +24vdc. They must be grounded to activate them. NPN sensors must be used.
I don’t see a “no fault out” option for outputs
NoFaultOut is an Acorn input
@@martyscncgarage5275 … thanks Marty, had to update CNC12
What is HFLB ?
We use it as a servo fault to stop the CNC control.