Tánaiste criticised over ‘barstool opinion’ on Sophie Toscan du Plantier murder
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- The Tánaiste is facing criticism for expressing a “bar stool opinion” about the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier.
The death of the 39-year-old French woman at her holiday home in West Cork in 1996 left people in Ireland and her native France profoundly shocked.
Local resident Ian Bailey was arrested by Gardaí for questioning but never charged; however, in 2019 a French court convicted him of Ms Toscan du Plantier’s murder in his absence.
Mr Bailey did not attend the trial and went to his grave earlier this year maintaining his innocence.
Speaking at the launch of journalist and author Senan Molony’s new book, ‘Sophie: The Final Verdict’, Tánaiste Micheál Martin suggested Ireland’s legal system “proved incapable of meeting its responsibilities to Sophie”.
He added that the “the evidence against the main suspect was broad and deep” and that Mr Bailey was a “violent man”.
On Newstalk Breakfast, Irish Examiner journalist Mick Clifford said he was “taken aback” by the Tánaiste’s remarks.
“They amount, to be honest with you, to a bar stool opinion,” he said.
“Which is grand if you are sitting in a bar on a stool and we’re opining about how awful the world is in various ways and how we could fix it if we were just given free rein.
“Of course, that is not Mr Martin’s office - he is Tánaiste, the [second] most senior politician in the country and he was effectively criticising, in a very severe way, the justice system in this country.”
Mr Clifford said there is “much that can be criticised” about Ireland’s justice system but added that Gardaí went to huge efforts to obtain enough evidence to convict Mr Bailey.
“If you examine in detail what happened here and if you look at the repeated attempts that were made by various officials to ensure there was a prosecution against Mr Bailey, you have to come to the conclusion that Micheál Martin’s comments were totally off the Richter scale in that respect,” he said.
Mr Clifford attended Mr Bailey’s trial in France but was left unimpressed by proceedings.
“That trial was a show trial,” he said.
“It was basically a hearing to confirm Ian Bailey’s guilt and I’ve written about this numerous times.
“The quality of some of the evidence wouldn’t make it past the door in an Irish court and it looked to me to be very politically motivated.
“If following that conviction, the courts had extradited Bailey, in my opinion, they would have done a huge disservice to any basic notions of natural justice.”
Despite all this, Mr Clifford described Mr Bailey as a “highly unattractive character” and noted he had a history of domestic violence.
“He was a bore - a complete bore - and he showed narcissistic traits,” he said.
“By contrast, the family of Ms Toscan du Plantier have carried what is a horrific burden with pure dignity.
“The point I’m making is, we have laws not for the people we like but we have laws for everybody.”
When he died in February, Mr Bailey’s solicitor described him as a “lonely and sad individual whose life was destroyed” by the allegation against him.
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The Gardaí made such a balls up of the investigation that no court would have convicted.
It was the Gardaí who messed up the case so it couldn't be brought to court, but you don't hear the Tánaiste mentioning anything about that, how convenient!🤔
Martin would not provide a state pathologist
Last I heard we still live in a country where you are innocent till proven guilty in a court of law he would want his due process
Micheal Martin having another silly rant just like his UK Rwanda boat having a major effect on immigration into the Republic via Belfast and his response to the €330,000 government bike shed tells me this man is losing the plot, if he ever got it in the first place.
Sure didn't he give free rooms in HSE hospitals to private consultants. All the dying on waiting lists and trollys are suffering to date because of them. Himself and Mary Hearney should have been hauled before the courts.
Martin should be in jail and stripped of his government pension for all his treachery
Go back to bed Boris.
@@Fran-n4x He was known as minister for reports when he was minister for health. Another talker. No action.
@@carlm6537 Given the quality of action for which the Fianna Fail Party is known (massive corruption, imposition of austerity, constant lying) I'd be delighted if they'd restrict themselves to issuing reports to which no one pays the least attention.
He should have made a phone call about bike shed 😲 Langer 😱
@@liamcronin5959 distraction again !!
He never would have got a fair trial in France because he was English and her family were too influential.
@@usernextuser5385 there was no creditable evidence against Bailey
Just Go Away Micheal Martin.
Martin should keep his big mouth closed the man is dead and cannot defend himself martin should apologise to his family members
Pretty sure he has no family.
And the former partner justifiably couldn't give 2 shh-ugars.
Didn't you listen to the Podcast "West Cork" while it was free on Google Podcasts?
@@FreudsSlipperhe has family.
@@userxyz64 err awks for Martin so 🫤
But he *was* a Brit, so.... 🤷♀️ (Less awks really)
Bailey didn’t commit that crime, he was set up
Innocent until proven guilty MM you got that wrong remember all the Irish prisoners were not guilty and was lock up for years agin you over look that too
Bailey was found Guilty
@PaCo-jd3sl A French court actually !
@PaCo-jd3sl so educate me then if you claim to know more than the French judiciary.
@PaCo-jd3sl I have done my own research which is why I said Bailey is absolutely guilty, and my research only comprised of one Irish author!
@@PaulBrennan.If you did your "research" properly you would have known that the French courts used the same files dismissed by the DPP. Mick Clifford is 100% correct saying it was a show trial.
What he calls the right are people who don't agree with his bs.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE IRON GATE THE GARDAI LOST?
@@Breas-md6hc apparently The du Plantier family gave permission to have it destroyed
@@SarahMcMillan-zk2uk The Gardai lost it, this was the official story
@@SarahMcMillan-zk2uk did they??? Find that hard to believe
Here’s the thing. Later on, during cold case reviews, anyone who went tracing or tacking evidence, statements, log books, records etc, invariably found the relevant pages for that period had been forcibly torn out - no signatures, initials, times, dates. The gate was removed, destroyed and nobody knows anything it.
@@davekeating. yep something strange about this investigation, and i reckon there’s dirty cops involved !
Martin is a disgrace of a human being nt to mind a politician.
For French justice look up Trevor O'keefe
A bit late lads, typical of this government
Why does he not talk of all the young people who will never ever own a house or the homeless ……! Master of waffle and spin and doing nothing but waffling about some far off injustice … let’s talk North Korea 🇰🇵…. ! Find out who got paid for bicycle shed … start to create affordable housing at home . Stop waffling spinning … 20 years of waffle it’s time he waffled off into the far off distant ……..! 😢The 😢only
Well said Mel
Well said👍. Him and Mary Hearney should have been before the courts for giving private consultants free rooms in HSE hospitals that still affect sick, dying people waiting on treatment to this day. How he holds his head up is baffling.
Schoolteacher Martin commenting on a dead man trying to boost his buddy's book sales? he should be made make a groveling apology - what a disgrace.
Sophie, told a friend, ''she was going to meet a writer for a possible collaboration. But that he made her uncomfortable''.. Writer and He, had the French, convinced Bailey RIP, was guilty. Unfortunately, everything is suspect with the Irish Police, and their Investigation. Truly, Mickey Mouse. A Local woman having an affair, was exposed as a liar when she claimed she saw Bailey, close to Sophie's Home. She claimed she told her handler the truth, but he wasn't interested. Also, because Martin is from Cork, he is allowed have an opinion.
Martin and 95% of TDs should be behind bars for the corrosion and lockdowns
Meholes handler was missing that day and there was no practice interview beforehand. Nobody pointed him the direction of a lie so he told us about the dream he had in his head.
I know personally if police don’t like you, they will break the law freely to frame or convict you.
I know personally too, if police like you, they will ignore law breakers..
I complained via e Mail to police that still ignored.
Complaint to garda omnibus man ignored too….
Irish Police are a law onto themselves.,
I did have a certificate of merit from police..
It’s long in the bin….
Solister are all scared of police….
My profile and what I wrote truth..
I pity Ian 🧐
can ye not see it from a mile away,martin said for the votes in CORK BOY...
Really appalling comments from Martin - he needs to apologise
Innocent till proven guilty
The state has known since day1 who the murderer was,,,,the Gardai have a lot to answer for.....
Wouldn't say it when Bailey was alive?
Easy saying that now seen that Bailey is dead!
Not a nice man
There are plenty of "not nice men" like Bailey.
They aren't all murderers though.
Especially not of persons so weirdly random and so geographically distant.
Remember that woman the Gardai pushed to make a false statement about Bailey that she later said was untrue
Martin should be so free with he s mouth he a cowardly he did say that when that man was a live
Executioner judge and such such😂
#MickyMartin puts his foot in his mouth again.
Has anyone told Micheal Martin about the separation between the Judiciary and the Executive. His statement was completely reckless but what is most serious and shocking ( to use a term constantly used by Martin when trying to disguise his spoofing) is the fact that Martin doesn’t appear to realise that what he said was absolutely a disgrace for any responsible individual and particularly a Government Minister to say. This might be an indication of the level of real competency of Martin who has through cuteness held a lot of cabinet positions without leaving a mark in any of them. But even the cutest of hens lay out. Martin, as Minister, Taoiseach and Tanaiste has been very quiet in dealing with the British when it came to Pat Finucane. John Finucane was interview yesterday and praised the efforts of Bertie, Cowen and Harris. He didn’t mention Martin . I wonder why. I don’t think it was a genuine omission.
The worm turns
Clifford the 🤡
Why didn't he speak out when bailey was alive,such a squirmy,coward martin is
Dimestic violence is not taken seriousky with gardai and many solicitors and judges. Irish courts are EXTREMELY MSYGONISTIC unfortunately.
So true ,
Female Gardai are the worst by far, a disgrace to all women .
Smoke screen. While we focus on this MM's friends cimtinue their project of dem o gra phy
Seperation of powers, dnot make me laugh, they are all buddy, buddy
He should have been tried before a jury. Read all the books on this. It’s clear. Mick Clifford has always been on his high horse about this case. He sounds exactly like Bailey’s lawyer. DPP clearly should have charged him.
انا اختك اليمنيه واعتبرني اختك والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وكامل اسرتي تشردنا من بيوتنا بَسَبَبَ الَحَرَبَ نَحَنَ فَيَ حَالَهَ لَايَعَلَمَ بَهَا الَا الَلَهَ حَسَبَنَا الَلَهَ وًّنَعَمَ الَوكيَلَ فَيَ مَنَ اوًّصَلَنَا الَى هَاذا الَحَالَ وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 4 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب 500 ريال يمني مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967713342392 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خير..÷~÷~ππ~π~π~√
Dretail naxu coll
I have flushed better in things down the toilet than Michael Martin.
😂😂😂😂😂
Not out of character. Mask slipped.
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