Love talking drum tuning! The intervals Giovanni explains here are definitely the most widely used. Especially in standard 3 drum tuning, G#3, B3, and C#4. Or, I’ve heard him(and a TON of great congueros play that but down a half step on each= G3, Bb3, C4. This will play the main melody from “Manteca”, which is a nice little test for the intervals. Then, obviously like he said if you have fourth drum at F#3 or F(a perf. 5th below the Quinto). So, If the Quinto or high drum is tuned as Your Anchor pitch as I think of it, the lower drums will be a M2, P4, then P5 if a fourth drum is added.
Giovanni, grande abraço querido mestres dos tambores. Nós conhecemos no Brasil e te dei um CD de regalo. Deus te abençoe e proteja com saúde para nós dar muito mais da sua música e da sua alegria de ser músico.
After learning TaKeTiNa I can't play without tuning my drums to clear harmonic intervals..... hearing the tones is such an important step to create sound especially with percussion instruments, developing awareness and intuitive structure.......
This is very interesting. I agree with Giovanni: it is rdiculous to have several tumbas all giving the same note. They must be tuned. The different notes used by the famous players are interesting. They all sound good. I have several jazz albums with tumbas: Lou Donaldson and others, some with Patato. The jazz sessions all use only two tumbas, Quinto and Conga, with the Quinto on 1 and two taps on the Conga on 4 as the basic pattern. I guess they don't want the tumbas to be too intrusive. The Blue Note guys usually write "Conga" (single) and they mis-spell shekere and Patato. Giovanni has a video with six tumbas. The video uses the Latin Percussion "Giovanni Galaxy" tumbas. There are four sizes: Requinto, Quinto, Conga and Tumbadora, so the two duplicates must be tuned to different notes. It would be interesting to know which notes are used. I wish Latin Percussion would make a Supertumba in the Galaxy style. That would give five notes. I might ask them to custom make one for me: they could use a Palladium one, without the hoops. All the other parts are standard Galaxy fittings, except the top and bottom rims, which could be made from the Palladium rims with a gold coat. Latin Percussion also makes an individual 9" tumba (WB series). I am going to order one soon and attach a mounting bracket to it to put it on one of my triple tumba stands. It is blonde. It could function as a "Requintito", pitched higher than the Requinto. All that would give six notes. Giovanni would sound great on such a set.
I use the intervals (on three drums) as sung by Coltrane, “A Love Supreme”. It has a perfect place between resolution/tension. intervals are far more important to me than the actual pitch.
I comment with all due respect to the master. He remindes me of yoda. He's so cute, "it's the ceeeenter!" Much love Gio! I pray your health is stable and you are flourishing in Christ Jesus!
I imagine that he is a Roman Catholic; if so, he is not in Christ. I hope he gets saved. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved." (Acts 16:31) "Cree en el Señor Jesu Cristo, y serás salvo tú." (Actos 16:31)
Dis moi le croyant: Comment se fait il que le Seigneur ne l'ai pas empeché de perdre ses doigts, lui; un Maitre des tambours?.... Comment se fait il que le Seigneur n"empeche rien; Ni les guerres, ni les prêtres de violer les gosses?@@tommyblack7998
Tell me believer: How come the Lord didn't stop him, a Master of drums, from losing his fingers? .... How come the Lord doesn "t stop anything; neither wars, nor priests raping kids?
Congas always have to be tuned because of thick cowhide/mule skins and usually only five to six tuning points/lugs per drum.Djembes stay in tune much better because goatskin holds tension better and the natural rope tuning system has anywhere from 25 to 40 vertical rope tuning points and a counter hoop cradle.The best solution for keeping congas in tune better is still quality synthetic heads.Drumset artists went through this transition and controversy back in the 1950's and 60's between the tone of calfskin and the practically of synthetic. Conga drum lug tuning systems are basically the same as drumset tuning systems,not enough lug/tuning points to keep tension on a thick natural hide head.
I always thought five lugs were not enough, that's why I don't play Gretsch. You can't tune the toms correctly. I guess it's worse on the tumbadoras. Meinl makes congas with six lugs, excellent manufacturing and finishing, I can't say if they are on the level with LP but they cost three times less.
Love talking drum tuning! The intervals Giovanni explains here are definitely the most widely used. Especially in standard 3 drum tuning, G#3, B3, and C#4. Or, I’ve heard him(and a TON of great congueros play that but down a half step on each= G3, Bb3, C4. This will play the main melody from “Manteca”, which is a nice little test for the intervals. Then, obviously like he said if you have fourth drum at F#3 or F(a perf. 5th below the Quinto). So, If the Quinto or high drum is tuned as Your Anchor pitch as I think of it, the lower drums will be a M2, P4, then P5 if a fourth drum is added.
Beautiful. Thanks.
Tuning is extremely important. Some feel tuning is a personal thing. But! to in tune with the band is very important too🙏
This conversation is gold!
Amazing! So much history, and info, so quickly!
Thank you brother Maestro.
The different weather changes are a "natural" tuning so you can enjoy different tones depending on the day.
No, bull💩
Leaving a tuba standing in the rain slowly filling up with water is also very "natural",
so you can enjoy different tones depending on the season.
Yeah, we really enjoy a clarinet tuned on 445 Hz in summer. Sounds very bright.
Giovanni, grande abraço querido mestres dos tambores. Nós conhecemos no Brasil e te dei um CD de regalo. Deus te abençoe e proteja com saúde para nós dar muito mais da sua música e da sua alegria de ser músico.
After learning TaKeTiNa I can't play without tuning my drums to clear harmonic intervals..... hearing the tones is such an important step to create sound especially with percussion instruments, developing awareness and intuitive structure.......
This is very interesting.
I agree with Giovanni: it is rdiculous to have several tumbas all giving the same note. They must be tuned.
The different notes used by the famous players are interesting. They all sound good.
I have several jazz albums with tumbas: Lou Donaldson and others, some with Patato. The jazz sessions all use only two tumbas, Quinto and Conga, with the Quinto on 1 and two taps on the Conga on 4 as the basic pattern. I guess they don't want the tumbas to be too intrusive. The Blue Note guys usually write "Conga" (single) and they mis-spell shekere and Patato.
Giovanni has a video with six tumbas. The video uses the Latin Percussion "Giovanni Galaxy" tumbas. There are four sizes: Requinto, Quinto, Conga and Tumbadora, so the two duplicates must be tuned to different notes. It would be interesting to know which notes are used.
I wish Latin Percussion would make a Supertumba in the Galaxy style. That would give five notes. I might ask them to custom make one for me: they could use a Palladium one, without the hoops. All the other parts are standard Galaxy fittings, except the top and bottom rims, which could be made from the Palladium rims with a gold coat. Latin Percussion also makes an individual 9" tumba (WB series). I am going to order one soon and attach a mounting bracket to it to put it on one of my triple tumba stands. It is blonde. It could function as a "Requintito", pitched higher than the Requinto. All that would give six notes. Giovanni would sound great on such a set.
I use the intervals (on three drums) as sung by Coltrane, “A Love Supreme”. It has a perfect place between resolution/tension. intervals are far more important to me than the actual pitch.
I comment with all due respect to the master. He remindes me of yoda. He's so cute, "it's the ceeeenter!" Much love Gio! I pray your health is stable and you are flourishing in Christ Jesus!
I imagine that he is a Roman Catholic; if so, he is not in Christ. I hope he gets saved.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved." (Acts 16:31)
"Cree en el Señor Jesu Cristo, y serás salvo tú." (Actos 16:31)
Dis moi le croyant: Comment se fait il que le Seigneur ne l'ai pas empeché de perdre ses doigts, lui; un Maitre des tambours?.... Comment se fait il que le Seigneur n"empeche rien; Ni les guerres, ni les prêtres de violer les gosses?@@tommyblack7998
Tell me believer: How come the Lord didn't stop him, a Master of drums, from losing his fingers? .... How come the Lord doesn "t stop anything; neither wars, nor priests raping kids?
Tommy, maybe you shouldn’t judge people based on your imagination.
Congas always have to be tuned because of thick cowhide/mule skins and usually only five to six tuning points/lugs per drum.Djembes stay in tune much better because goatskin holds tension better and the natural rope tuning system has anywhere from 25 to 40 vertical rope tuning points and a counter hoop cradle.The best solution for keeping congas in tune better is still quality synthetic heads.Drumset artists went through this transition and controversy back in the 1950's and 60's between the tone of calfskin and the practically of synthetic. Conga drum lug tuning systems are basically the same as drumset tuning systems,not enough lug/tuning points to keep tension on a thick natural hide head.
I always thought five lugs were not enough, that's why I don't play Gretsch. You can't tune the toms correctly. I guess it's worse on the tumbadoras. Meinl makes congas with six lugs, excellent manufacturing and finishing, I can't say if they are on the level with LP but they cost three times less.
Nice 🤙
Dorelamido