Segway P100S : Rolling Review!
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2022
- It's finally live!
If you're thinking to buy or already own the P100S,
this rolling review of the Segway P100S should give you a sense
of its power, acceleration, the suspension, braking and more.
It's a powerful beast and you WILL have fun on it.
Please comment about your own experience with the P100S or thoughts
on buying it.
I was sick for 3+ weeks, nasty flu/virus, so this one took wayyyy longer than I'd hoped.
See you in the next video! - Розваги
Great review! Ordered one through kickstarter, snow here in Canada but we look forward to riding in spring even more now.
Ya waiting for spring in calgary, bought the ninebot max but this scooter is on my radar
What was the order date and when did you get it?
Definitely worth the purchase!!! I received mine in Oct 1 through the early Kickstarter price. This scooter is a beast especially for me in NYC. Its so fast even without the Sport + mode (I don't active much). Something between a Ninebot Max and a GT2 (I also had a Ninebot Max). I love it
Definitely worth it for the Kickstarter price that’s how I got mine
What was the order date and when did you get it?
very nice .wish i could afford one. thanks for posting
There are often sales every Tuesday, so, keep an eye on segway.com
Mate, hands down BEST P100s Review out there, I've had a close eye on this model since pre launch way back in May of last year (2022) and yet to see a better comprehensive review. Well done! Will be purchasing this week thanks to your thorough review. Cheers mate 👍
Thanks for the kind words. Hope you enjoy the scooter!
@Ethan Clansky Yeah I won't it'll be my brother in law's, the bastard! I have an Apollo City Pro so that is good enough for me
What was the order date and when did you get it?
@ClaymorePvP My bro in law purchased one, it arrived approximately mid-late January. I am happy with my Apollo City Pro that I picked up last July (2022) and about to upgrade to an Apollo Explore or 'Pro' when both are due for release later this year. Apollo are doing some things unlike ANY other scooter brand, particularly in the after sales service arena.
@@davidfromdownunder Yes he recieved it mid-late January, but when did he purchase it? did it take 1 week? 2 weeks? 3 weeks? where did he purchase it from. currently going insane because my order is taking so long and its the only thing I can think about.
Thumbs for using SI unit system!
I have an Inokim Ox electric scooter, been thinking about selling it and getting this one. I also have a Nanrobot Lightning 2.0 scooter, very good fun.
Got mine a while ago now, been enjoying it quite a bit, also for $1600
Nice u got it for the best price!
Can you pick it up and carry it ok despite being ~73lbs?
@@chrisjones1849 it’s transportable, but it’s not something I’d want to do on a regular basis. If transportability was a main concern, I’d probably choose something else. It’s comfortable to carry when folded, it’s just not light.
I was debating on getting this scooter but ended up buying the GT2. If you go slow you can get the range out of the GT2 (maybe not as much as the P100S). But the acceleration GT2 just puts a smile on my face. But then again it's in a different class. The reason I went with the GT2 over this scooter is I have massive hills on my commute and the P100S would struggled vs the GT2 just eats them like its nothing. The P100S is still a great scooter and you did a great job on reviewing it.
Good choice for ur needs. I’d like to get gt1/gt2 someday
Wolf warrior 😂
Good news for GT2 owners, soon Segway will rollout a firmware update where you can increase/decrease the top speed of the GT2 in all modes! Say Eco mode can be 25kph and Sports mode can be 50kph
@@gtone339 I'm one of the lucky 100 that got to download the update early. I been on that new firmware since Wednesday last week.
@It's Cowtown The GT2 is very expensive and overpriced so for that money there are many better options out there starting for example from scooters with bigger BRAND batteries!
Regarding the P100S, the deck is too short and the handle bar is too low, I'm a big guy so this scooter is best suited for small people.
And in Australia we are second class citizens (always) because they sell the P100SE which is speed limited by Law but they give the option to unlock it for ~$100 more, they say that they replace the controller???
However, I tried the unlocked one (SE) and it was awful, the scooter reached comfortably 30Km/h but then it struggled to go above that speed.
I'm not sure if the vendor is a crook or the scooter is a crap but I'm NOT going to spend my money for an over priced toy.
From this video I learned that the max speed can be unlocked via APP so the vendor didn't know that??
And there's another vendor that sells the P100S (unlocked from factory) but I won't risk to buy something from internet that isn't what is declared on the paper.
Another negative point is that there is NO information regarding the cells being used in the battery pack so since I only trust brand batteries, I won't consider this overpriced toy at all!
GREAT review! I am getting one soon to replace my current F65. What's the real world range day to day?
Really depends on ur weight and speed. To be honest, I don't push it to the max range most of the time, but prob 40-50 miles?
@@EthanClansky thanks!
The torque on sport mode is WOW. I keep it in drive mode. Plenty good enough for me.
Good review. For $2000 this scooter is a tough choice when you can get a VSETT 10 25.6AH that'll give you more range and a much higher top speed. Plus, you can Mod the hell out of it. Enjoyed your video and release more when you can.
I would only buy this scooter on discount at 1800. Goes on sale pretty regularly seems
@@EthanClansky The Mukuta 10+ is a MUCH better scooter for only ~$70 more!
Solid one piece frame, much much better suspensions, brand battery cells, 26Ah battery, more power, more torque........
All Segway scooters are overpriced!
Because someone made a mistake on the website doesn't take away the fact that the VSETT gives you more bang for the buck. That's a fact, not my opinion. @@brianlynn6154
@@billadmond9450design and display are shirt. No NFC,… You need to compare well please 😉
I love my p100s. I have the GL30 and the Ninebot Max. They all have their purposes. I got rid of my car during the pandemic. My insurance alone was $2,000 a year for the car. So...spending $2,000 on the P100S was not such a big deal for me. I scoot around town "hair" and there doing hair for clients that cannot get out of their homes. Door to door, quick and fast without having to find a parking space. I live in NYC. Just the savings on parking violations I must save lots of money. Gas money too.
Yep it is super versatile getting around town. I take mine for light grocery shopping besides pleasure riding. Sounds perfect for seeing ur clients in NYC no hassle w parking. My Ninebot max definitely fits better on public transportation but p100 infinitely more fun. diff tool diff use.
Are you able to lift it and carry it around at nearly 73lbs?
@@chrisjones1849 I need to use two hands. Depending on the situation I use the GL30.
What was the order date and when did you get it?
I got a G2 max the other day, I think it's pretty nimble. But I was actually conflicted between the G2 max and the GT1. G2 max happened to be local enough for me to go buy it and take home without waiting for shipping, so that was my deciding factor.
But I definitely want a super scooter now.
I have both and love them for different use cases. The G2 max is undisputably easier to carry around get on public transportation , but the GT1 will strap you to a rocket
Thanks for the review, there are not a lot of videos about this scooter on youtube. I'm 85kgs, how fast do you think this scooter would go on a 15% hill with me on it?
I'd say 30-35km/hr since ur bit lighter than me
@@EthanClansky wow! I'm looking for a future upgrade from my kqi3max, and was wondering how much better this Segway would be uphills. On my kqi on a 15% hill I ride at 15kmh, so the Segway's 30-35kmh is much better. Thanks, when my kqi dies out, I'll definitely consider the P100s.
@@pbugabuga sounds good. It's got plenty of power!
sweet =)
Thanks for the Review. You mentioned that you don't think the Scooter is worth the 1999$. But what about other Scooters in that price range? Like vSett or Kaabo. DId you consider those?
This is much much much much higher quality than any other brand
I haven't tested other scooters in that price range but would like to
@@ClaymorePvPyes and no.i tested this and the kaabo mantis duo as there the same price but the mantis is so much better imo
no, lol. thats also a chinese resell. they dont design their own software and UI for the scooter like segway does. trust me, its better than any kaabo, fluid, hiboy, whatever dogshit you can think of.
25.50 ….. Perhaps a cup of Concrete will help to harden up mate! Great review BTW
I have mantis 8. I am not happy with the stiff suspension and little tires. Which one would you prefer? Mantis 8 or P100S?
The P 100 is plenty absorbent not too stiff, haven’t tried the mantis
$1,500 on Amazon right now
I just got the P100s and I also have the Max G30P. I've noticed that the regenerative braking on the P100s is very weak compared to the Max even when it is set to "strong" in the app on both the 'energy recovery' and electric brake. The P100s seems to coast significantly more than the Max. I really liked the heavy deceleration I got from the max when I let off the accelerator because it saved me from having to use the brake. Any thoughts on this?
I've Noticed the exact same thing. Not sure whether it's because of the differences in the motor, software, or because of the weight difference or combination of the two. I agree It's more efficient to have the option of strong 'engine' braking
@@EthanClansky I'm glad it's not just me that notices this then. I was slightly worried that there was something wrong with the scooter out of the box. Aside from the regenerative brake, my only other complaint is the odd sounding horn that people don't actually think is a horn. Thanks for the reply.
@@robwarner3rd Yes, that's r. That " horn" sounds like a service vehicle back up,reverse warning ⚠️ . Don't like it at all that😡🤡💩
buy a bike disc brake cleaner like muc off. Spray on the disc and it will get rid of the squeaking noise. Its from dirt and oil. Hope this helps.
Good idea
What difference is between p100se and p100s ?
Great thanks for your review !!
SE is European model, crippled to the core due to EU regulations.....glad Brexit happened.
@@no15minutecities easy to unbridle though
The miles/range on the e scooter are insane. A little more miles than the GT2 💀
Yep…I prefer more range vs more power on the GT2
Has your scooter ever turned off on you at a random time?Battery charged and brand new it was on my first ride too ,it happened 3 times
Hmm maybe happened once not sure. 3x is no good email Segway support about it
Were you ever able to get to the advertised 48kph at max charge? Mine seems to top out at 45 and I'm lighter than you
I was able to get 48 but only on flat roads and only when the battery has plenty of juice probably past 70%
What adjustments did you have to make for the rear brake? When I squeeze my rear brake right now it will not lock the wheel, looks like the brake pads are too far apart.
There’s a knob at the rear brake lever area that you rotate out that will tighten it
@@EthanClansky is that the knob that grabs the brake cable?
Yep it twists
thanks, have you had any issues since your purchase? I bought one the other day for $1499 and should be here soon
1500 you got a great deal. I had the one issue with the rear brake rubbing, had to RMA it, but been ok so far since
@@EthanClansky Thanks, I had seen it pop up once on Amazon for $1499 and didnt buy then seen it again the next day again for $1499 and couldnt resist lmao. Coming from a MAX im very excited.
What was the order date and when did you get it?
@@tendie2906hahahahaha same here 😂
Hey scooter community 👋 I just purchased the Segway P100s 2 days ago, and it’s great, I’m just curious IS THERE a fast charger for this scooter?
I also have the ninebot max g30 and I use a fast charger that charges in 3 hours which uses the smaller circular port on the side right next to the standard 3 prong port on the side of the scooter.
This new P100s of mine doesn’t have that smaller circular port, just the 3 prong port, does anyone know of any fast chargers sold/ made for the Segway P100s scooter?
Congrats on the P100! It’s a fun beast. There’s no faster charger that I know of. The battery range rated at 100km/62 miles is quite good for normal use.
@@EthanClanskydoes that scooter really go 62 miles in distance???? If so would that be 15 mph
I want one of these so bad. I wonder how many miles it could go if kept in drive mode or whatever mode keeps it right at 20 mph. i don't really go any faster than that, but i do like to go really far. like 50-60 miles
It's nice wish to go 50-60 miles. But, instruction sad that it go 62 miles in eco mode. Therefore, wonted distance may be achieved only by going at 9.2 - 10 ml. per hour. 20 ml. per hour may get approximately 25-30 ml. distance with temperature 73F and does not have hills or bumpy roads. So, in real life given distance need divide by 2 to get approximate real distance.
@@ap3401 only 30 miles at a constant 20 mph? that's kinda crappy.
@@ropeysubstance1719 you can get 32- 40 miles in ECO mode on the GT2 @25 mph, the top speed on the GT2 in eco mode is 25mph, prettt good, and of course 45mph in race mode, but that tears the battery down quickly, literally a percentage point every 15 or so seconds
@@ropeysubstance1719
30 miles is plenty for the average rider
Any European users that own the P100SE? I’d like to know if the P100S & P100SE only have software limitations or also different specs. Most of the European countries have these limited to 25km/h, which is a little slow for me. I’m used to 31km/p and that is fine, maybe a little more power uphill but that’s it. But 25km/h is just to slow if you’re used to something quicker.
I tested the P100SE in Australia, stay away from this scooter because it's slow and overpriced!
The merchant said that they unlock it for ~$100 more by swapping the controller but the scooter only reached 30Km/h.
I believe that the SE is hardware restricted so do not buy it!
That does suck that it's locked to lower speeds abroad in various countries. 😑
@@EthanClansky Right now in the sate of Victoria in Australia there's a 6 month trial program, scooters which have a speed above 20Km/h is 100% illegal!
Legal scooters (none) may NOT ride on foot paths, they can ride on shared paths or ROADS!
Now you imagine a scooter riding at 20Km/h on roads during night time!
It doesn't take much to be a politician!
Don't worry you can change the speed as its software not hardware
@billadmond9450 actually it's software not hardware as may European have changed the speed to 48
I bought it for 1800 on thanksgiving. Fantastic scooter. Two stupid questions. Why can’t I turn off the front light and does the rear wheel have a way to inflate it
You can turn off the front light. It also has an automatic mode, see the manual.
@@EthanClansky the stronger light I can turn off, but the other one I can’t.
@@gareginasatryan6761 it's a drl. You can't turn it off
It’s only slowing down on hills because they programmed it so the controller doesn’t overheat
Ah so not about the slope. Good to know.
11:28 okay I see how important that is…
Please I have a question, how many kilometers does this scooter have and can it accelerate to 40 km without adding another battery and have you tried it yourself
ask allah the moon god
What is the lower deck od P100s made of? Is it metal or plastic?
I believe it’s a type of metal. They use it to dissipate better heat also. Best to ask Segway directly though.
Have cops pull you over ? Because some States they will confiscate your scooter I scared me. How the scooter legislation on your areas? I'm in California they more friendly in scooters some States are illegal. I'm also getting this Segway 100 because of long mileage and power 30mph is the sweet spot! Over 40mph is too dangerous great review 👍! Thanks 😊!
I’m in Seattle, no cop issues, long as you’re being reasonable not going down crazy busy streets, blocking traffic, generally responsible riding is the key. Also rode in San Francisco for awhile same experience
Top speed is 30mph, 40 km/h
Mine was AUD$2500/USD$1600
from Electric Kicks.
Wow that’s overpriced. Could have got the kaabo mantis due
Is your dashboard / screen low brightness when you’re out doors? If so how do you increase the brightness ?
I don’t believe there’s a way to adjust the brightness. It’s plenty bright but looks diff through camera
I ask because when mine turns on it’s bright but then it goes very dim I can’t see it good during day time ,I have to cover it in order to see it good idk if yours is the same or it stays bright when you turn it on
There’s a light sensor that I think adjusts screen brightness, recommend u contact Segway support
9:42 the rear brake is blinking in the video
I'm also in the Seattle area. Is your scooter for sale??
Might be selling my p100s at some point in near future
I need help. After watching your review I purchased a new P100s. I have been unsuccessful in obtaining the Segway handlebar extender, phone bracket and side view mirror as illustrated in the kickstarter promo.
Segway customer service is useless. Bad English and don’t have any clue as to what I’m talking about. All they say is watch the Segway store. How they can get away with this when customers have spent over $2K for there product including taxes I don’t have the faintest idea.
Do you know where I can find these accessories ??
JC
I’m still waiting for the accessories that I bought on Kickstarter also..Segway has definitely been behind on this🤨
What's your range from a full to battery? I know they said 60 miles but I'm guessing is more like 22 miles
Honestly haven't done a an exact range test, but I'm guessing it's at least 30% lower than what Segway States because their numbers are inflated. Naturally range varies heavily depending on road conditions. Are you going up hills or is it flat as well as rider weight etc
Red sport mode 30mph = 30 miles range.
Drive mode 25mph = 40-50 mile range.
Eco mode 11mph= 62 mile range!
Segway tested it in real conditions.
I have this scooter and what they stated was accurate!😁
I feel like i can go anywhere on this scooter.
@@JESUS-IS-RAD but how much do you weigh? like 60kgs? lol
@@danizm4165 153 pounds
@@danizm4165 155 pounds
Would you have rather had gotten the Segway GT2 Scooter?
Good question can’t say as haven’t tried the GT2, but I’m very content w the speed and range as is on the p100s
Anyone from NYC ?
Knows if the latest firmware upgrade reduces the top speed of 30 mph?
Am i wrong or there are 2 models of p100 the s and the es. 1000wh and 1200wh battery?
I think you mean the 100SE model. Looked up the specs It has the same battery size at 1086 Wh
can you help me how to adjust sport to sport+ setting,thanks for reply
Check out 22 minutes into my video. I walk through how to do sport +
I have an issue with the left rear suspension. Its shaky and I am waiting for Segway to reply with a solution
I’m having the same if not a very similar issue, my left rear suspension piece torques inwards and causes the brake to rub all the time. Sent mine in for repair..
@Ethan Clansky how and where did you send it for repair?
I made a warranty claim , mine is going to California. My suspension is not shaky but something internally is wrong causing the axle to be at an angle and rub the brakes all the time
@@EthanClansky ok. Thanks
@@EthanClansky What was the order date and when did you get it?
What is the range like with this scooter? Maybe a video idea on it discussing the range between different modes? ;)
Segway says 62 miles/99km.. that’s probably in very ideal conditions but still, it’ll go at least 45-50 miles likely. pleeennnnty far. That’s a good idea regarding the comparison👍🏼
@@EthanClansky will this scooter go further in range than the gt1 or 2?
How you unlock the max speed? My P65 just reach 20mph
P65 is a slower model. For the p100 it’s in the app under settings
If there any way how i can install hydraulic brakes on p100s?
You’d have to do quite a retrofit
cool video, don't really feel like spending 2K including taxes would you think the p65 is a good idea? its now on sale for 1200$ also the p100s looks very tall looking for something more low profile just feel like the suspension is a deal breaker :)
P 65 is also a great option. Can’t go wrong with either of them if anything not having the suspension makes less moving parts to break.
@@EthanClansky thanks for the replay I just wonder if it would be a huge difference for the comfort in the city I own an es45 and every tiny bump i hit really hurts :)
@@galaballi the suspension on the p100s makes a huge difference, however being tall 192cm I don't like how much higher the center of gravity is than one without suspension so keep those in mind.
The European version the P100SE, is limited to 25 kmph, also lack cruise control, due to EU regulations.
EU is tooooo strict😟
@EthanClansky yes, but breaking it, and unlocking the p100s region performance, is cost 1000 euro fine in my country. So, it is not worth the speed or cruise control.
What’s the procedure for increasing speed?
There's a walkthrough late in this video around 22min
@@EthanClansky Thank you, but unfortunately I have the P100 SE elle est limité à 25 km en europe on peut quand même?
Why are you using KMH and not MPH?
Prefer it. And it’s more commonly used in most countries. Habitual after living abroad also.
in your opinion is this scooter too "big" to ride on sidewalks and get away with it without looking ridiculous? this is something that i do frequently on my ninebot max G30P but taht scooter is pretty small so nobody really cares if im on a sidewalk. but a massive beast scooter on a sidewalk would piss off a lot of pedestrians imo. where do u place this scooter?
It's quite a big scooter. I would say you want to be off the sidewalk most of the time
Whats the max speed?
48kmh / 30mph
Zou je ons ook kunnen helpen, segway lovers vanuit Europa. We zijn beperkt voor snelheidslimiet en het ergste cruisecontrol hebben ze van de opties eruitgehaald. Ik kan wel in de app regio bv vs selecteren, dan nog kan ik niet de opties krijgen die jullie hebben buiten europa. Schandalig ik hoop dat iemand deze serieus opneemt en eraan iets doet. Deze segway p100se is pracht van toestel, jammer genoeg dat wij beperkt zijn in EUROPA!!!!!
Sounds frustrating, how much is it speed limited? Speed limit is controlled by Country law unfortunately
Hi. Where can i buy one actually ?
Best Buy
@@realMDizzy Thanks 👍🏻
@@markuswerber2527 What was the order date and when did you get it?
@@ClaymorePvP Actually i have ordered the Ninebot Max G2.
Segway has best deals, Best Buy pretty standard retail. I bought the max G2 also on indiegogo.✌🏼
Why is LED Display glitching?
It’s just how it appears on camera due to shutter speed, in real life it’s fine
@@TheBatracho Oh ok. Thanks.
Yep it’s my camera issue not the scooter
@@EthanClansky Oh ok
i hear rattling. where is that coming from??
Which part of the video?
@@EthanClansky most of the ride. There is a fine rattle. The frequency of the sound is so high, it would probably be closer to "vibration". It's like a high frequency chatter.
Good question not sure what that is offhand. Just sent it in for stem bolt tightening but think that wasn’t issue when I shot the video.
Jesus christ blessed me with this scooter for 500 dollars on fb market place(:
can you wash your tool before showing... thank
Why only segway has 2.y.worenty!thats why im bain it vs blade mini pro..in EU 1600 e.with 23.5 mah batery..
Go get wolf warrior
That single stem doesn't do it for me😂
Is what it is, but does a great job for a single stem.
yeah and attract the cops??
You can buy a motorcycle for this kind of money
Could but very different use case. Moto also needs insurance etc
@@EthanClansky no insurance here in Florida
Just wear a helmet
Why do you UA-camrs continue to review and thus support a product with terrible customer support ?
In all of the reviews no one discusses how dysfunctional their Chinese customer service is. There’s no one in America to properly support their product.
I read tons of reviews from so called UA-camrs. This prompted me to make up my informed decision to purchase their product.
I compare this to the recent debacle of FTX and all the ensuing law suits against those celebrities who hawked and supported the company because investors trusted them.
Why do you guys do that ? Why don’t you inform the consumers at large of all of a company’s overall operations not unlike an investigative reporter for an international news organization ?
Think about my comment intelligently.
Very unsatisfied American consumer.
I currently have a claim open myself about the rear axle (significant problem) on my p100s. Otherwise I think the P100S is really well built . What issues have you had with your scooter? I agree they should have US based customer service.
Wear masks is the close? It was good up to that point... Thumbs down...
Love my P100S only complaint is the stupid rear fender smfh
I’ve heard some come loose which is super bad. Then they should iterate on design
What was the order date and when did you get it?