WOW! Only a 15 MINUTE Runtime!? STIHL FSA 135r BATTERY TRIMMER.
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2022
- In this video I respond to a video on UA-cam stating that Stihl dropped the ball with the Stihl fsa 135r. I totaly disagree with his take. I’m almost wondering if he might have had a directive trimmer.
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I agree with you. The issue with guys that say that the battery trimmers don't work is that they go into this with the preconceived notion that it's not going to work and they also run their gas trimmers at full throttle the whole time and do the same with the battery trimmers. I've been using battery products exclusively in all my videos for two years and even done overgrown cleanups to prove them wrong. Great video!
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in my case I have for over 2 years the 135 Trimmer and the chainsaw 161T, both I have used and I can say abused beyond manufacturing recommendations so far never have any problem.
I'm with you, we have a few of these and get 5-6 lawns done on a ap300, love them. And we live in the middle of no where so our lawns aren't small. Your older videos are what I looked at and listened to when considering getting the 135r. So thank you for that! I use the ap300's because the weight is more important to me than run time to be honest.
Nice! Thanks for the comment! 👍🏻👊🏻💥
I have a personal experience from this year with FSA 135. I Bought combo of FSA135 (not the R version, regular one with handlebars) and RMA 448PV (+3x AP300S + AL300 charger). Yep, it was not cheap (~ $2000). But FSA 135 is high above my expectations.
I can get about an hour of a runtime (I was never used to go on full throttle not even on my previous gas-powered trimmer), and charging takes slightly more than an hour (maybe 70 minutes?) So I can go "unlimited" with two AP300S batteries (well time will tell how long batteries last with this pace). It's pretty comfortable - hour of trimming => get some drink => bam, battery is charged => swap batteries (full on machine, empty on charger) => 1 more hour of trimming => ... and the cycle repeats. I even cut some bushes and thin trees (freshly grown).
But yes, when you are not able to use the machine in a way it was designed, you can probably turn it to the trash. I borrower the trimmer to my father and he just instantly set it to power level 3 and was always on full power. He emptied battery in ~30 minutes and it was very hot so I had to wait before charging it. But this never happened to me, and I just unboxed the trimmer and started using it as previous gas-powered.
But the fact is, I was slightly disappointed with RMA 448PV. For me this one runs ~30 minutes and I expected more (I was even more hyped after the first experience with FSA 135). And this runtime I have with ECO mode = ON (mower decrases rotation speed when it thinks full power is not needed and adds rotation speed when needed). So from this point of view, this mower would not be my choice if I was buying mower for myself. I like it's rust-free (hopefuly) polymer body, i like independent drive, and mono handlebar with easy folding. But I do not like the runtime (on AP300S), and absence side discharge.
But since I bought it to be used mainly by older women to keep the frontyard tidy, it works well for this purpose (She will not work in long session anyway, so the runtime is kinda OK here). And it's almost maintanance free (just sharpen the blade once/twice a season and you are good to go).
So my conclusion about battery garden tech. In the trimmers we already have the alternative to gas-powered trimmers. But in the mower world we are not there yet, but almost. Not even speaking about chainsaw world (nobody just makes chainsaws to fall medium-sized trees, probably 36V systems will not deliver enough power).
Thanks for your information and input!
Hi, Which of these brands do you think has the longest battery life and is of the best quality for commercial use; Echo, STIHL, Toro, Husqvarna or Ego?
Thank you!
What is a typical day like with someone mowing and you with the trimmer? Are you running through 2-3 batteries in the trimmer in an 8 hour day?
I’d say we are getting about 40 minutes of trim time out of them. That’s for weekly and biweekly. If you’re cutting overgrown chest high stuff your at about 25 minutes. That’s all trigger time. Not including walking from tree to tree. We have 7 batteries total and a charger in the truck. I’d definitely recommend 3 batteries. I’ve found some good deals on the batteries through facebook market place.
My customers say if you're using that battery mower and strimmer I'll leave the garage door open so you can recharge
I bought the Ar2000 backpack battery for my FSA130r and I love it
I bought one of these stihl FSA 135 yesterday at a cost of nearly £1000 for the Strimmer. Battery and charger.. is this a joke , takes 70 minutes to charge the AP300s battery (once it has cooled down as it won't charge whilst the battery is hot, so that could take another 20 or 30 minutes) then gets maybe 25 minutes of use .. at this rate , its gonna take me a year to do 3000 sq m.. I should have got a goat..
It doesn’t take mine nearly that long to charge. What charger did you get?
LMAO 😂
That goat is good idea, they’ll eat the grass then get some milk out of them and also roast them😂👍
What kind of trimmer head your useing on your battery weedeater man with that heat wave if i was working after i be done i jump on to the water
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O ok thank you yeah i been looking it show me a stihl its 32 1trimcut
Nice video brother...i need a suggestion..FSA 130 vs FSA 130 r what is difference between them...and which one is best even for women..tnq 🙏
Essentially, with the FSA 135 and FSA 135 R, Stihl offers the same trimming performance, except with different handle options. The FSA 135 String Trimmer features a bike handle while the FSA 135 R comes with a wrap handle design. Beyond this distinction, both trimmers look pretty much the same. I haven’t used the bike handle trimmer. If you’re planning on using the strap all the time and have big areas to trim the bike style might be the better option. If you are thinking you might not use the strap is go with the r. The r is more versatile. If you want to flip it and edge a walkway the r is a must. Hope this helps!
@@douglaslawncare2843 tnq for the reply brother ...
What’s difference between this and kma 135?
I believe kma is a kombie unit
@@douglaslawncare2843 what you recommend for commercial in battery line up?
Exactly,at level 3power,waist high grass,my ap300,flat in 20 minutes at mostly max revs while working, easy to do what other bloke did,though i haven't seen the vid.
He must have the ap100 battery. It only lasts about 15 minutes. I got it but can only go 15 minutes before I need break 2 heart attacks. Works perfect for me. Less vibration so don't set my devibulator off.
i have the 135 in the other format for i use it in more heavier stuff. But i am happy, i just don't use AP300 that is for the 161T chainsaw, i beginning with AP500 and have 2 AP300s spare
I wish my dealer sold the 500 batteries.
@@douglaslawncare2843 I believe they can order it for you or maybe you can order it online. I am in Portugal and got the chainsaw MSA300 from Holand and the Trimmer 135 from Spain and the batteries some I got here in Portugal some in Spain. I think here in Europe Stihl is producing slow some products we have to order from dealers that may have any in stock.
For the low spots why not just use a light weight 20" push mower? Only way it'll get stuck is if you yourself get stuck. Pull it behind you so most of the weight are on the two front wheels (because pulling it they become the back two wheels).
Do you cut anything else than grass with the 135? How does it do with the cutting blade and small trees?
I have cut all kind shrubs and small tres about 2", grass I seldom cut I use mine mostly for clearing, just for whatever I am going to cut I use the proper blade.
In fact I have the FSA135 and the chaisaws 161T, 220C, MSA300 and GTA26. The FSA135 and the 161T I have used and abused beyond manufacturing recommendations so far never have any problems.
@@sirvozelo1 Sounds good. I have the MSA220 and some batteries so if the FSA135 is good enough to clear up to 2-3 inch trees it makes sense to get one and use the batteries more. By the way what is your thought about the MSA300? I just held it in a shop and it felt very heavy compared to similiar petrols.
@@prewinder Has I said I have used the 135 quite heavily and I am happy in fact I used it yestarday cleaning cutting brum shrubs in a lot of land from my brother, they still small I not even need to use full power works great, I have all batteries from AP200 to AP500S I always tend to us the AP500S even heavier but it give me a little more time cutting.
In regard to the MSA 300 in my opinion is a joy powerfull machine Stihl need to improve the batteries capacity, yes no doubt is heavier than the 220 but if have a ticker logs the 220 stands absolutly no chance. I have bouth today for example I am going to cut about 4 or 5, 6" to 8" oak trees and in this case I am taking just the 220 with one AP300S battery because is lighter and I not need lots of power but I have a friend that sometimes I help him and he help me, very much no mater the size of the logs he always grabs my MSA300 he enjoys how this saw performs and not care about litle more weight in regard to the other chainsaws I have 161T and 220C. In the MSA300 what make it more heavier is the AP500S battery but you must have it in order to be able to go in full and medium power sets, I have work with it quite few times using the AP300S and have no problem however it only runs in ECOMODE but evan in ECOMODE still feels faster than the 220C.
I have the MSA300 with two size of bars 16" and 18" here 95% the trees I cut are oak and acording to the average size of the trees I chose one bar or the other right from the starting.
If you are cuthing for example about 10",12" ticker logs for 30 minutes with MSA300 and then you pick up the 220C feels like going from a Mustang GT to a Ford Fiesta, but both have their purpose their high and their lower side when compared wich very much is weight, power and speed.
@@sirvozelo1 Yes I have the 220 and used it a lot to thin out our Birch and Spruce forest. It is great up to 50 cm thick wood. Easy to carry when clearing of branches from the logs, but I consider getting the MSA300 for felling bigger trees. But I guess I would need more than two ap500s to last 4 hours work (then I can recharge at lunchtime).
@@prewinder Is not so simple, to cut continuos from a pile of logs and I have don it but I use 3 AP500S and 1 AP300S an eletric outlet available and the charger 500 on all the time. Now in your case you mention 4 hours but maybe is not continuos cutting, never the less and all depends on what kind of wood and what tickess, however very much you need at least 4 AP500S BATTERIES. keep in mind if you using 80% of 18" bar cutting oak 12 or 13 cuts and the AP500S battery is discharged, and don't forgot a sharp chain is a Must. To bad we are so far away otherwise you with try mine, with be no problem.
In Sweden it must be a AP 300 S for the 135-series. Otherwise the machine not working right. My FSA 135 with AP 300 S have a running time in 30 minut.
Thanks for the info! Hope Sweden 🇸🇪 is well!
well.... there is way to be able to compare machines... the amount of energy they can deliver.... with a charge or a full tank.
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no.... in fact a machine deliver a power...and has a "load of energy".. Amp.hour for and electric device or volume of gas.. for a thermal machine..
with a few calculation you should be able to "estimate how long it is supposed to run full power.
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I can guarantee that guy had the smallest battery and ran it on the highest setting. Even so, I have a hard time believing that it only ran for 15min.
Same!
A guard would help run time less rotating mass
Did you even watch the video? 😂 I’m not putting the guard back on!
Not sure about battery op equipment for commercial.
Depends what you mean by commercial? I can do 2.5 hrs on a al3000 backpack battery mostly on full power in high grass. But if you used setting two like he did here you will get almost twice as long and be only about 5mins slower. The lower vibration the less fumes make it a massive plus for extended periods of work time. More than good enough unless you're trying to strim down small trees or something 🤷🏻♂️
It’s been working out great! It’s a commercial unit.
I also love the fact that my helper and I can take them in the cemetery’s and we can talk the whole time we are trimming!
We do all our commercial properties with battery exclusively and you can see the results by watching my videos, you have to use it and see for yourself and not have a preconceived outlook of its failure. Try it
I have the ap 500s full throttle it runs 35 minutes
Nice! When I bought my unit 500’s weren’t a thing yet. I have a lot off 300s. Wishing I had the 500.
These machines are brilliant the only problem with them I can see is they are really to expensive
They are expensive. I was just tired of messing with carbs and pulling a gas unit 6 times to get it started.
@@douglaslawncare2843 think you have the best option on the market for sure
Try the ryobi 17 inch trimmer I heard that one is a good one. !!!
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Lol I’m guessing this vid is about me. Try using the same unit I was using the KMA 135r the Kombi system not the FSA135 r. I’m not buying a battery trimmer alone we wanted the Kombi because of all the attachments we have already. The run time on the KMA Kombi System with the AP300 battery only lasts 18 to 21 min max on high setting. We know what we are talking about and the dealer even said the Kombi dose not have the best fun time. You are comparing apples to oranges.
Ha! Thanks for the comment! No hard feelings on my end. I just was hoping to make a good video on the trimmer and figure this would get a lot of views this way. Keep up the good work! 👍🏻👊🏻💥
For the hell of it,im reading from stihls 2022 catalogue page 48 in Australia,
Stated run times for kma 130/135r with nylon mowing head and ap300 battery are as follows
36minutes level 1
17minutes level 3,4
For the FSA 130/135 with nylon its 36/19minutes,about what i experience on level 3
Ap300s(recommended) figures are 45/22minutes for kma
45/25 for FSA.
I do a 9 acre apartment complex with mine.
Nice! We maintain huge cemeteries with ours! Still love them!
What a poor property for a bee… no flowers.
You mow my lawn that fast and you are fired.
😂 he wasn’t even going full speed! My main mower is in the shop and it goes 12.5 mph. I’ll top that speed out all day long!
@@douglaslawncare2843 Well now isn't that special. You're still fired.
It’s a commercial unit boss. It’s made and intended to be run at full speed. It does not affect the cut quality. 👍🏻
@@elmerfudd7674 you pay for the job to be completed. You don’t specify how long it’s supposed to take. When you spend well north over $10k on a mower it better do it’s job damn well.
@@FishFind3000 I understand your point. Good for you working and employing others. Guess my point is if I saw you burning donuts that fast on my lawn with that zero turn mower we would have issues. The best job isn't always the fastest.