Well, with all the stress travelling from austria to JP, i wouldn't be too shocked if Wawa moves to JP in 2024 or 2025. Then Lui can meet her anytime without a worldtravel. 😅
I was a little shocked when I went to KFC years ago in another Asian country and they didn't have mashed potatoes. (instead, they had rice and some damn good ACTUALLY SPICY chicken)
It's interesting that Lui understands just how massive the United States is, whereas some people do not really understand the scale. Like, I've seen multiple Brits or other Europeans that thought that they could just drive or take the train everywhere and go everywhere they wanted in just a few days... only to realize that they're traveling multiple times the size of any single country that they've been in before. And that there's plenty of states in America where traveling from one side to the other can be an all-day drive even during the best of times. I was actually curious so I look it up, apparently there is no place in Japan where you are more than 150 kilometers/93 miles from the ocean.
Yeah, I'm in the Midwest here in the States and there's no happening way that I can get to somewhere like California or New York or Florida without considerable effort or money. Eons ago there was a clip of Kiara talking about how she would like to be able to meet up with her genmates in the same way that JP or ID can but realized that North America is too vast compared to the relative distances in Indonesia or Japan. Seeing Lui know this and concede that it'd be too short notice is pretty considerate of her, for sure.
yeah, but europeans certainly arent the only ones. had recently someone suggesting the ID girls should visit one another and pointed out to him that the indonesian islands stretch across a space that is about the size of the US too. or many people not realizing that the flight from AUS to JP is just as far as from the US to JP.
@@srkares I think all the HoloID girls are in the main city aren't they? Heck, the early gen(s?) even all lived in the same building for awhile! And as far as US vs AUS to JP, it isn't necessarily the flight time that makes it difficult I think, but going from the US to JP is a huge time difference. You almost end up flipping your day which I imagine causes huge jet lag issues going back and forth. Whereas the difference between AUS and JP is only like an hour. So someone like Bae would be able to fly in to the office and probably be ready to work/go the next day, but an EN member coming from US (or even EU for Kiara) probably has a few days of feeling off and crappy until they get over the jet lag.
I imagine that homestay she mentioned likely played a part - she really does understand the distances involved here, both from one part of the US to another, and just getting around where you are in general.
I love Lui so much man. She seems so respectable, willing to learn and try stuff out. Truly a hard worker and someone with a lot of charisma to bring people together to do stuff like this.
The one culture shock I'll never quite get over is that Christmas isn't nearly as holly-jolly in Japan. Though it's a good time of year for fried chicken.
I'd imagine that Lui would be really surprised at how many of her EN counterparts probably would've dropped everything to make her feel welcome, if there were any nearby -- even on such a short notice. If I had a friend or colleague that was flying X-thousand miles, I know I'd probably make an effort.
I think she knows they'd make an effort and that's why she didn't say anything cause she didn't want them making an effort and complicating their already busy scheadules even more.
Americans are quick to self criticize manners but compared to the rest of the world americans are the most friendly and social by far. Even holding doors is irregular in other countries.
@@coprographiai would say its wrong to call it a facade, merely a facet of the overall experience. Americans are passionate is the best way I can put it. Very kind, but also very everything they do. Very angry at times, very loud when talking, very stubborn and opinionated, but also very kind and open to strangers/conversation. At least compared to the few countries I’ve been to. Americans are just very open with expression of all emotions to the public
When we go to a certain country, the first thing we do is be surprised by their culture and lifestyle, which is something everyone must experience at least once when traveling overseas
@simulationkoyo Cali doesn't really have the "gun toting hill billy" stereotype. The 2 things that'll kill you in CA are the prices and the druggies, if you can avoid those, you're good
@simulationkoyo except if you take a look at the gun ownership rates in rural areas compared to the actual crime... where we're the most armed, we've got the least crime. The most dangerous places in the USA are larger cities. "Gun toting Hillbillies" are usually dangerous if you're trespassing.
The thoughts on American communication were touching. I'm sure in all countries it varies by region. In DC for example, I feel like we are much more reserved and "by the book" than those in California.
First time I ever visited America I was freaked out by how people behaved in public, like the whole street or restaurant was their own home. But once you get used to it, it's quite charming how un-socially awkward everyone is compared to my country.
Each country has their own culture, America and Japan are like night and day pretty much. Im glad that Lui-nee enjoyed her stay here, or like Fubuki says, hamburger country.
To me Japanese and American cultures are surprisingly close in some aspects, especially compared to European culture. Both Japan and America have a strong work ethic, and share this concept of maintaining a "public face" for courtesy (tatemae in Japanese), hiding how they really feel. Europeans instead tend to work less and prioritize their personal life, taking plenty of vacations (5 weeks per year or more), and they're known for their directness, which can sometimes come across as rude to outsiders. Of course, there are different types of people everywhere, not everyone fits the stereotype.
@@bennydelon No, Japan and America are nothing alike. For starters, Americans love diversity and promote anything that elevates the status of minorities. The Japanese are very based and disregard anyone who is non-japanese, and don't support that LGBT bs.
This made me think about when Mumei first visited Japan for a Holotori collab, she mentioned that she saw an old man fall on the street and nobody helped him up. Subaru indicated it was a big city Tokyo thing, but Lui said it was because Japanese people are too shy, and she seemed a little embarassed about it. (TBF I also think it's a big ciy thing because even in the US rural areas tend to be friendlier and open because the looser presence of central authority means you tend to have to use social skills to work out things for yourself. Ive heard medieval Europe was chatty like this too.) Anyways I think Lui saw an aspect of herself reflected in her culture that she has been trying to improve in a career where interpersonal skills are your bread and butter. Also I think it's sweet how tourists from Asia like the holo girls are so willing to see the good in American culture, whereas visitors from a certain other continent would IMO be more likely to take American frankness and honesty as a sign of an unsophisticated society.
I think American is a culture that change while japan is more of the one that like to stay the same which can be problematic when doing stuff like the old days can get in the way of making society better like japan work culture and conformity culture not that we shouldn’t be against some tradition we have stuff like Christmas in America but when the stuff is harmful sometime it better to abandon it tho in America we do have conservatives who hate change and they can be a very toxic bunch they went as far as to do an insurrection and attack on Asian, black, and lgbt because they didn’t like the fact American isn’t mostly white peoples anymore and more mix, aren’t accepting of gays still and think it and polygamy are a threat to marriage and some want to force the Bible in school because American is becoming less religious these people are a bunch afraid of change tho is their one I learn about life is that either you change or force to change
@@USSAnimeNCC- Well that's just...blatant falsehoods that would make a politician blush. If you tweaked it to be an attempt at satire it'd be a 10/10 representation of what city folk think of rural folk, but it sure as heck isn't based on reality.
American friendliness really stands out around the world. How we just will talk to jus about anyone. The anecdote that really exemplifies this is about this young backpacker walking into the common room of this hostel in France and says “Bonjour comment allez-….” He’s cut off when someone else says “the Americans are over there” while pointing to a group of ppl. Bewildered the backpacker said “how’d you know, is my accent that bad?” The resident says “no, only Americans would walk into a room of strangers and introduce themselves to the group”
In my limited experience, one of the unexpected benefits of experiencing a foreign culture is that it also lets you appreciate your own culture more. Glad Lui enjoyed Burgerland!
so happy lui liked the states! nothing makes me prouder than watching people visit and have a good time. despite what the media wants to say, it’s truly a lovely place with very kind people. hopefully she visits again sometime! there are so many amazing things to be seen between all of the different states/regions
The one thing that really surprised me the most was how nice most the people were, the total opposite of how Americans are usually portrayed. Like the simple act of holding the door for the next person is non existent where I come from.
@@bradybunch4707 The way people on media tend to depict any place, not simply America, tends to be an overgeneralization of how certain people can act. However, I'm of the belief through my own experiences that most people are friendly, even if sometimes in just small ways. Of course, if you look around enough, or simply stay in one area for a long period of time, you will come across rather crass and undesirable people to be around. Thus is the nature of people. I agree though that it is very nice to hear someone unfamiliar with a location talk about how kind and courteous the people were compared to the negative implications often thrown around.
our OWN media demonizes us constantly. they report mostly about all the screwed up stuff that happens and very rarely about good things. Imagine how much different peoples perception would be if the news was constantly covering all the stories of people selflessly stopping a robbery or shutting down a shooter, or running a massive community charity event. @@bradybunch4707
Americans are very friendly. I'm Canadian, and Americans seem to get a rap for being unfriendly, always being compared to Canadians who are supposedly super polite and friendly, but that hasn't been the case in my experience. As someone who has travelled a lot of the world, people in both countries are some of the friendliest people in the world. But America has a lot of other issues that friendliness can't solve.
I noticed that Japanese are often jealous of the more "open" culture overseas. I think it's a case of "grass is greener". Because overseas, while people are more open to praise you or be friendly or nice... Open also means more open to be critical or confrontational or to say something negative or to hurt your feelings. The polite, closed, reserved, distanced avoidance in Tokyo might be something Japanese are bored of, but it is also something that protects them from a lot of negative things, like fights, and aggression, and rudeness.
Eh. I see it more negatively, I feel like every culture has problems with repressing things and bottling them up, and it's probably better to give people more avenues to express themselves and let out their feelings. A lot of Japanese will express frustration with the (functionally) one-party political system and the way that the elderly have complete control over the young, and it seems like that social order is reinforced heavily by the closed-off social culture.
@@Necroskull388 Knowing 3 languages myself and seeing so many communities, I really appreciate how Japan's culture shapes its community, and mostly gravitated towards following jp streams etc nowadays. The most apparent example to me was when I compare SF6 western pro scene to JP pro scene, where the western scene has a lot of manchilds "freely expressing themselves", while the JP scene is so much more mature and more entertaining too. Actually, just looking at stream chats in general is probably a better example. Respectfulness really is something that goes a long way.
I'm surprised Lui realizes how big America is, we're the 4th largest nation in the world, people always tend to forget that when they come visit. Way too many times have I seen Europeans talk about how they're going to go from New York to Pennsylvania, to Texas, to California all in a week. Like my guys, you can travel for an entire day and still be in Texas, you're not going to have the time to go to all those states. The USA is nearly the size of Europe combined.
I second the thought-- Texas is no walk in the park. One highway can go from 80 MPH to 50 MPH in 20 miles then for 30 miles of nothing the desert has a random pit spot.
@@rickkcir2151 third largest by population, yes, but we're talking about area. Russia, Canada and China are all geographically larger than the United States. China and the US are very similar in size, though, enough that if you include water, the US pulls slightly ahead.
A useful metric for Europeans is that LA to New York is roughly the same distance as Lisbon to Moscow (on roads, in a straight line LA to NY is longer).
On the scale of the US, New York to LA is about the same distance as Moscow to Madrid. Texas alone has the whole "The sun has rise, the sun has set, and we ain't outa Texas yet," thing.
The feeling is mutual. I cried of happiness when I visited Tokyo, and cried of sadness when I was leaving because I didn't wanted to leave. I think is normal to admire and appreciate cultures different than yours.
@@dead-claudia Europe is possibly the most diversity-dense continent on Earth. Some countries are much more open than others, and usually you have large differences within countries as well. As for Japan, I believe this is largely true when referring to the Tokyo metropolitan area / 首都圏, and say, Kyoto, but in other areas (especially the south and Kansai, as well as specific rural areas) introverts are much more rare and people can be rather loud and open, even compared to most Americans. Japan has 100+ million people, with lots of mountains and seas to separate people, with an extremely long history. So you can't really expect it to be the most monolithic group of people on Earth. Meanwhile in Europe, in addition to mountains and seas, you have language barriers, legislative differences, historical differences etc. You might be surprised to learn that people in North Africa are genetically and culturally closer to southern Europeans than they are to Sub-Saharan Africans, and similarly, southern Europeans (esp. southern Spain) are in many ways more similar to northern Africans than to northern Europeans. That's the scale of diversity we're talking about----so if you expect any level of cultural cohesion throughout the continent, expect to be disappointed.
@@VVayVVard Nobody expects cultural cohesion in an entire region (calling it a continent is very euro-centric), and Europe is very diverse, but its diversity has been sterilized somewhat after the formation of the EU. Constant interactions have led to more of a cultural melting pot ala the United States, and migration from elsewhere into the EU has been seen quite negatively in recent years. In short, Europe as a whole seems more diverse, especially in terms of cultural traditions and linguistics, but the diversity of thoughts, beliefs, and culture itself has been getting much smaller. This is in contrast to places like the US or Canada that constantly has massive influxes of differing peoples from all across the world that keeps their own cultural understandings and more from becoming melted into the big pot all at once. Europe has had great difficulties in properly integrating its immigrant communities from outside of European cultural influence, and part of that difficulty seems to lie in this belief that European diversity is good enough and exceeds their counterpart in the US or Canada, at least from my observations.
Lui at the end made me feel a bit sad knowing how lonely it must be for Japanese people not being able to normally talk to each other as strangers as she said
I'm glad she had a great time. I'm from California, so it's interesting to see someone's impression of it, and of the United States culture as well. I've traveled all over the world as a hiker and photographer, so experiencing a new culture definitely gives you more perspective on your own. Though this is the first time I've ever heard someone liking mashed potatoes so much. It would have been cool if some of the EN girls had shown up, but even if they weren't busy with the holidays, most of them would've needed a day to fly out to LA anyway. If she and some of the other JP girls go back, hopefully they'll get to meet up.
man, see you never know. Lui was really over here in Cali and coulda walked past me on the street, and i'd have never known There's something wonderful about that thought
Kson (Coco) grew up in Georgia (within Atlanta's economic sphere), and she told us both good and bad stories about living there as a girl of Japanese descent.
I was thinking the same thing. To me, there is no reason to ever buy premade mashed potatoes because it’s so simple to make something so much better. That said I’d get it in her case because travel makes most prep hard.
Makes sense. The US really is huge so who knows if they could have even met. A big part of EN doesn't even live there. Some of the members live in Canada, Bae in Australia, IRyS & Calli in Japan, and then there is Kiwawa on the other side of the planet.
Ina and Shiorin are like the only ones that are guaranteed to be on the west coast, with FauFau, Mumei, and Watson as uncertain wildcards. All the others are spread out across the continent or even in other hemispheres.
Very glad to hear she had a positive experience. Although I believe a lot of California's issues are frequently exaggerated I was still worried regardless lol
She doesn't know where everyone lived? That's no excuse. Everyone knows all Americans live in Texas, New York City, and Disneyland. But in all seriousness, it's so sweet to hear Lui describe how positive her experience was. I hope she gets to visit the South and Midwest sometime. People only get nicer the further you get from cities.
Honestly, if I was visiting the US for the first time I'd probably want to visit a Walmart just for the experience. I know if I ever visited Japan I'd want to check out 7-Eleven and DonQui.
I stated walmart as a joke since I have never seen any goofy antics at a walmart. Then again, I'm only there to get my food and leave so I'm not loitering around...@@borotorob
people that don't live in/have never been to the united states tend to really underestimate how big it is. Taking a jet from one coast to the other takes ~6 hours, and if you were to drive by car, if you did it non-stop you could do it in ~3 days, but most people take about a week to go from one end to the other by car.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness. And many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one litte corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain
In modern times, the same thing can be said of Internet echo chambers. Most people tend to believe that their echo chamber is the enlightened one, but spend long enough in other ones, it becomes increasingly apparent that all sides have good arguments that the others lack. And of course learning the language of a starkly different culture (like Japanese for someone who natively speaks a European language, or vice versa) feels like being plunged to an isekai. It's so interesting how everything in our experience is so powerfully dictated by our native culture.
I totally understand not meeting up with EN girls but I wish they had 🥺. America really is a huge country compared to Japan (370,000sq KM vs 9,800,000sq KM) and you can't really ask them to travel that much. Hopefully we'll have more international offline collabs soon.
@@ジョジョさまoh they don't think the increased taxes will save the environment. They think the increased taxes will fund the construction of their bunkers where they can hide out when the environment becomes uninhabitable.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy If they thought the environment was changing they wouldn't be buying beach front property all the time. Fucks sake. You're still believing half a lie.
I agree with Lui, humble and open have things to offer. That why I think choosing when to be humble or when to be open is important. Being all of one or the other isn't going to allow you to achieve everything you desire.
Honestly, seeing Lui and the others having such a positive impression from visiting makes me goddamn proud to be American. *Especially* the boxed mashed potatoes.
@@-Devy- Its because the US is constantly paraded around as being this hellhole where you get gunned down walking 5 minutes outside of your home when in reality the US isn't that bad. Some places are definitely worse than others (don't go to Detroit). But yeah when you only hear the worst you expect the worst, but that's why nobody has any faith in the media anymore, its all doom 24/7.
@@-Devy- Them: "having such a positive impression from visiting" You: "Imagine being "goddamn proud" over the simple fact that someone *didn't have a bad time* while visiting your country." (emphasis mine) They said "they had a good time" and you read it as "they didn't have a bad time" and you directly insulted them out of nowhere because you don't know what words mean. Learn to read, douchebag.
@-Devy- Wouldn't you be happy if someone left a positive review on where you live? It's better than constantly hearing all the different ways people can say "America sucks".
That speaking openly with strangers feeling is definitely more prevalent in the South & Midwest from my experience. So it can be shocking to other Americans that come from other regions too, lol!
Yeah, I'm from Seattle and nobody says anything (I guess it's called the 'Seattle freeze'). However I've noticed that a lot of people will actually engage in conversations as long as you're the one to get the ball rolling.
For me, moving from the east coast to the midwest was a crazy experience. Strangers just…talk to each other?? And do nice things and nobody’s surprised or overly appreciative, they just accept it? I do think the JP girls’ experience of America as ‘open’ is probably true across the country compared to Japan, but I wonder if the east coast would have less of that culture shock
To be fair realistically there’s only a few EN members who had the possibility of meeting them judging by the time zones they use and they are all pretty busy at the moment. Not saying they wouldn’t try to meet up because I’d imagine a lot of them would want to make time to see them but it makes sense Lui might not want to mention it
Only two or three of them are even on the west coast, and it was the peak of the holiday rush. It was just the least convenient time possible for that kind of thing, but if the experience was good, then it won't be the last opportunity they'll get.
To be fair, it is no different than us saying we went to Japan, the UK, Germany, and France when in reality we only stopped in Tokyo, London, Berlin, and Paris. Personally, I don't consider myself having truly gone to another country unless I have visited outside the major cities/capitals.
@@troybaxter "when in reality" this is silly, in reality you went to all of those countries. You do not need to explore every corner of a nation to say that you went there. If you want to be more specific and say the city instead of the country, then go right ahead. Doesn't really change how asinine it is to word things in a way that suggest that a city or state aren't where they are. What if some geographically challenged numb-nuts got the idea that California is a different country or something from that post? I'm being an ass about this, I know
@@PerplexedPlayers I was just pointing out to OP that Americans do it too, and MY standards for if I have visited another country or not. That is all. I've been overseas. Multiple times in fact, and outside of a couple countries I have been outside the major touristy cities and actually got to experience a bit of the culture. I just hold myself to a standard.
I think it's the difference in "talking with someone" at all levels. For example; we will say "Good day", "Hi", or nod to any we pass by while taking a walk at the very least as a sort of acknowledgment that the other person exists and that we will be entering their personal space for a brief period of time. That's practically unheard of in Japan. They'd consider that as "talking".
Yeah, it’s probably where I live but the nicest thing I can do for people is open the convenience store door if I’m entering before them. If I say good afternoon I get looked at like I’m about to jump them LMAO imagine being robbed by someone who just said good afternoon
@@huhreally5771 i imagine its rarer in big cities. but who says 'good afternoon?' it's like a greeting from the 50s. i'd feel like i was enterting the twilight zone.
Never seen your content but this popped up in my feed. Glad you liked coming to the states and that you had fun. We love to hear visitors enjoying themselves and yeah we can be quite open. I once chatted up a lady in Europe and her family on a train and mid conversation she looked at me and said point blank "I don't understand how Americans can be so warm and familiar with complete strangers. I would feel so uncomfortable." I hadn't even told her I was American yet! :D A stranger is a friend you aint made yet! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
You seem to be unfamiliar with vtuber culture. This channel is merely a clipping channel that records, posts, and translates segments of livestreams. If you want to tell Lui something, you can superchat when she's streaming. Also, I'm from Asia myself and every American I've met has been very nice. We Filipinos often like to say that we're very hospitable, but I feel like Americans are far more hospitable than we are. I stayed at a hostel owned by an American and he was super chatty and sociable despite his old age, which even as an introvert I found quite nice. You see, though not as reticent as the Japanese, we're still rather reticent compared to Americans. We're not the type to chat random strangers up on the street, nor are we as bold with sharing our opinions. It was also nice opportunity to use English to converse with a native speaker, since I'm more fluent than most of my peers but rarely get the opportunity to use it outside of university. I did get a kick out of how he earnestly tried to speak the native language but mispronounced the words with an accent, and even tried speaking Japanese when I told him I was learning the language. English isn't as syllabic a language as Japanes or the local languages in the Philippines, so he had some trouble with not saying long vowels. He was also rather hesitant to discuss the politics of his home country, probably because he realized that Filipinos aren't nearly as passionate about such matters as Americans are. I'm an exception though, since I am quite passionate about it, but don't really have a chance to talk about it with my peers since they aren't as into it. The funny thing was that the old man was on the exact opposite of me on the political spectrum, saying that he preferred Biden over Trump because he was "kinder", and that he'd vote for him no matter how old he was. Personally, I'd much rather have a competent leader that isn't necessarily kind, so long as their intentions are benevolent, but in the end our politics didn't really inspire hatred or division. It's quite different from what I typically see of Americans online, though it likely has something to do with him being an older gentleman and not having the energy to be as passionate as younger Americans. Are Americans really as politically heated as they seem from across the Pacific Ocean?
A girl from Japan I knew told me she thought Americans were 'big in all ways' Big personality, tall, loud, and very kind and happy. Hearing that was nice.
I love Lui, her and Marine are best wifu material in Holo, they just are genuinely (well as much as we can tell) 'good people', not that the other HoloGirls are not good people, but Lui/Marine have that certain "this is wife material, not best friend/girlfriend material" vibe. Also, Lui Japan, as a culture can be humble and well mannered and still *not* shun people for giving others hugs in public :P Also, I love when people figure out the size difference between the US and other countries, especially people in SEA/Japan/Western Europe... I mean I am jealous that they can actually go "well I want Italian for dinner tonight, time to hop on the train and go to Italy" But, it is still funny watching people's reactions.
Gotta throw Mion, Shishiron, and OkaKoro on that list as well. Maybe even Ao-kun. There's a reason this community has turned the word "hag" into a positive descriptor.
It would be nice to imagine them sightseeing something truly unique to the US, like the Grand Canyon, or NASA facilities and the Smithsonians, or the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Not merely an American urban sprawl. I guess Disneyland is semi-unique, at least...?
"America is vast", I see that Lui is still as observant and aware as ever, California as a state alone is as big or even bigger than Japan the country (in term of sheer land mass). also, did they mention why 4 hololive JP members decided to go to America around the holiday season (Around Thanksgiving to Christmas)? Was it for holiday, or some other reasons?
Well they don't do Thanksgiving, and Christmas is more of a romantic holiday in Japan than a family holiday, they probably all just had some time off because there's no big events to prepare for right now.
well in this very clip she said that they only decided on the date a week in advance, so it wasnt due to thanksgiving. initially she just wanted to go with korone, but miko and flare tagged along. as for why now... my best guess from observing the last few years is that the time of november to the first half of december is intentionally kept slow in hololive and talents are encouraged to take time off, before they start doing stuff for christmas and new years (the latter being a big thing in japan) and then start with the expo/fes preparations for march.
Can someone explain her first story -- what's a culture shock about a grandparent giving their grandchildren a present and them being super happy? I would have thought that would be pretty universal across all cultures.
Christmas time is more of a romantic thing in Japan that's for lovers. You *can* celebrate it with family but it's not the same. So she might have been surprised/confused to see a family enjoying time with each other with gifts within that context.
I think I said similar in another comment thread, but my first experience of America was Inwas shocked by how everyone treats public spaces like they were their own home. They're so comfortable, not worrying what other people are thinking. So, I think it was more of that.
I was wondering about that. In my culture, you aren't supposed to open presents until you go home. Not sure what Japan does. Quick google says you don't open presents in public in Japan either.
Since my country uses Japanese transportation system as examples, albeit the outdated ones, it does feel like it's harder to go places in America without your own car. I can only imagine the inconvenience Japanese might feel since they are used to public transportation is far more efficient than me.
I mean... It just isn't possible for a country the size of America to have an integrated and extensive public transport system like Japan's. America would bankrupt itself several times over attempting to build that much infrastructure.
@@matchesburn No it wouldn't. Everyone is already expected to own and maintain their own car, which is itself a massive expense. We also already have rail networks, they're just for freight instead of passengers. It absolutely would not bankrupt us -- we're the world's strongest economy. Where did you get your data on this? I've never seen a serious economic analysis that produces this perspective.
@@Necroskull388 We already have failing infrastructure we can't afford to fix/rebuild/replace. It's well known that many of America's bridges are needing replacements. And you think we can have a public transportation system that's as extensive as Japan's for all over America? My dude... That would cost trillions upon trillions upon trillions of dollars. No, we can't afford it. The scale is simply too large.
It is quite fascinating to see the youngest child can have the maturity and wisdom more expected from the oldest child; it applies to both Lui and Botan; in fact I thought of them as the oldest at the beginning.
It's funny cause on social media it's all whining and fighting, but America is really one of the most welcoming and hospitable countries. Not to degrade others, but I've travelled alot (mostly western Europe) and they're very insular, whereas America is open and approachable in general. It's fun to see people from other places experience real America, rather than just what's on social media, because that's like 1% of what we are, and I'm proud to be from here.
Yea people terminally online think this and its not true and same can be said about other countries aswell things arent as bad as people say they are bar the very extreme cases but those usually have travel warnings xD.
I'm an American, too- and YOU CAN KISS MY ASS AND FIGHT ME IN THE DIRT WITH A STICK F**K YOU And I hope your family is doing well, I hope you get to spend time with them during the holiday season. Nothing but love to you!
Most of the whining and fighting I feel are a minority. But they are so loud in social media its annoying. It's like they are trying to influence the general mass.
@@iJakku you're not wrong. You can find very different people that'll find more to laugh and joke about together than argue about. Social Media is a false reality
@@iJakku Oh, they're trying, alright. I've ran into my fair share of terminally online users spreading falsehoods and fake news, inflammatory comments and fringe political lunacy, but then I go outside, go for a little walk and say hi to all my neighbors. Much as Lui was saying, people are generally nice and welcoming. If they weren't, well, society wouldn't function.
Most tourists: visit a variety of restaurants Lui: finds a supermarket and buys boxed potatoes Me, an American: ❓❓❓ But hey, I suppose I get it. She found something she enjoyed and also got to see the gift giving part of the holidays up front, so it's all good 😅
In her defense when I was in HK I was scrounging the MTR Malls like I was in Disneyland... hell even just getting lost in the 'districts' of HK and the Island of Central to Kowloong was amazing. She was also feeling a culture shock
Kobo lives a few blocks from Ollie and the rest of ID2. Ina and Shiorin are the only two EN members that are even confirmed to live on the same side of the continent as the place Lui et al were visiting, and it was the peak of the holiday rush. That said, it sounds like the trip went well, so it probably won't be the last one the JPs make.
Thanks for this clip! I'm glad Lui can appreciate US openness. And I'm glad she mentioned how vast the US is. California can be a weird barometer to measure this huge, varied land and its people.
And whats impressive is Cali has a different feel than lets say NYC. I wish these girls would travel to NYC and they can see the big melting pot of so many different race and cultures. Its amazing
Honestly this depends on where you live in America. I feel like Lui and co. experienced openness while they were there because they were visiting tourist areas. But I'd say Americans in big cities are generally pretty closed off. Suburbs and Rural areas are where Americans are more open, and you might see them while visiting tourist areas in a big city.
I suppose it comes down to the little differences between an Island Culture (Japan) and a mercantile Frontier Culture (U.S). In that interactions are necessary and impressions (whether good or bad) have far fewer ramifications because you go 100 miles in any direction you will never see those people ever again even if you travel back to the same point. That being said, I'm glad she had a good time and my only advice is DO NOT GO TO NYC... I'm from NY and even I thought NYC was the rudest place I had ever been... You will get the worst impressions of Americans ever and it's literally just another big city like all the others... Go to Boston instead. (This advice goes for Europeans as well... or anyone really lol)
Yeah, Boston is generally a bit friendlier. It's especially true for Europeans because it still has some traces of the old European styles compared to most major cities in the country.
lol I live in NY and if you can handle California you can handle NY, there are way crazier people over there than over here. Hell I think I've met more rude people when I was in Florida than here.
Whenever a member talks about Americans being nice, I kinda wonder how much of it is people just being able to tell they're a tourist who's a bit lost. We're definitely more open about talking to strangers, but it being taken as actually being nice always surprises me a bit.
Wild that within network their locations are kept confidential. But that sounds fair because then any meet up *has* to be planned with a designated location (if it was NA-EN, i could see Los Angeles as the default)
The crazy thing, compared to the rest of the country, California might as well be a different world. Hard to really get a feel for “America” when moving from one side to the other is like a fourth of the globe in actual distance.
Honestly when the culture can change from state to state, it’s hard for most Americans to even presume they understand America. I think those differences is honestly really beautiful and it’s sad that so many today see these things that make us different as a bad thing, when at the end we’re all Americans (of course referring to those who live in America lol)
The three locals Japanese tourists visit the most in America are New York City, Los Angeles, and Honolulu. None of them, I feel, are all that good at representing America as a nation. Then again, with the way things are right now, maybe that's for the best...
Actually the actor hugh laurie said in an interview, "America is too big to know itself." I think he's quite correct. California is quite different from say, texas or New york. The states are as diverse as it's people. Americans used to come together under similar ideals. We struggle a bit now because of how polarizing politics has become, but in reality, your average citizen just struggles to make ends meet.
@@Xantosdude Yeah, it's a bit sad that the politics has become the forefront of what people see from America. American's too only see that sometimes just because of how social media and news stations work. Most of America is honestly quite nice.
my first and last time making mashed potatoes, i had to mash them by fork. after seeing how goddamn smooth instant mashed potato texture is compared to my handmade, there's no way i'd spend 30 minutes doing it by fork again when instant is great quality
@@yuuschzhie8822 Don't use a fork, there are special mashers you can buy that aren't pricey. Also, if mashed potatoes are too smooth, it's like eating something akin to yogurt rather than a mash, and that's kind of unpleasant.
1:12 yeah good thing Lui knows this. You literally get other European and Asian tourist wanting to see the Golden Gate Bridge in the morning and then the Statue of Liberty in the afternoon and getting there by only driving cause they're so used to getting to different countries or provinces in like an hour or two. They always get shocked when people tell them it will take them a week or so by car alone lmao.
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I love the fact that the only EN girl she told about their trip is the only member who doesn't live on the American Continent. Sasuga Lui-sama🤣🤣🤣
I think you forgot about Bae, Calli and Irys.
@@Samphatiwdym Bae and Irys are Holo JP 😉
@@Qieljoke is overused
Well Kiara has gone to LA plenty of times, just not as Kiara.
Well, with all the stress travelling from austria to JP, i wouldn't be too shocked if Wawa moves to JP in 2024 or 2025. Then Lui can meet her anytime without a worldtravel. 😅
She loves mashed potatoes. Ladies and gentlemen, we got her.
Surprisingly biscuits and gravy are a big hit for foreigners
I was a little shocked when I went to KFC years ago in another Asian country and they didn't have mashed potatoes. (instead, they had rice and some damn good ACTUALLY SPICY chicken)
Potatoes au gratin > mashed
@@sponger59381 Poutine, baybee~
For some reason non american KFC just tastes better. Like actually better quality chicken. @@Celphied13
It's interesting that Lui understands just how massive the United States is, whereas some people do not really understand the scale. Like, I've seen multiple Brits or other Europeans that thought that they could just drive or take the train everywhere and go everywhere they wanted in just a few days... only to realize that they're traveling multiple times the size of any single country that they've been in before. And that there's plenty of states in America where traveling from one side to the other can be an all-day drive even during the best of times.
I was actually curious so I look it up, apparently there is no place in Japan where you are more than 150 kilometers/93 miles from the ocean.
Yeah, I'm in the Midwest here in the States and there's no happening way that I can get to somewhere like California or New York or Florida without considerable effort or money.
Eons ago there was a clip of Kiara talking about how she would like to be able to meet up with her genmates in the same way that JP or ID can but realized that North America is too vast compared to the relative distances in Indonesia or Japan.
Seeing Lui know this and concede that it'd be too short notice is pretty considerate of her, for sure.
yeah, but europeans certainly arent the only ones.
had recently someone suggesting the ID girls should visit one another and pointed out to him that the indonesian islands stretch across a space that is about the size of the US too.
or many people not realizing that the flight from AUS to JP is just as far as from the US to JP.
@@srkares I think all the HoloID girls are in the main city aren't they? Heck, the early gen(s?) even all lived in the same building for awhile! And as far as US vs AUS to JP, it isn't necessarily the flight time that makes it difficult I think, but going from the US to JP is a huge time difference. You almost end up flipping your day which I imagine causes huge jet lag issues going back and forth. Whereas the difference between AUS and JP is only like an hour. So someone like Bae would be able to fly in to the office and probably be ready to work/go the next day, but an EN member coming from US (or even EU for Kiara) probably has a few days of feeling off and crappy until they get over the jet lag.
And then there is Texas....
I imagine that homestay she mentioned likely played a part - she really does understand the distances involved here, both from one part of the US to another, and just getting around where you are in general.
Meanwhile, Korone still looking for the legendary X-potato
Miko is still stuck at Immigration "One week..."
Lui at the airport: Anything to declare? Yes, these 40 boxes of mashed potatoes.
I love Lui so much man. She seems so respectable, willing to learn and try stuff out. Truly a hard worker and someone with a lot of charisma to bring people together to do stuff like this.
Lui really is amazing. She's like Marine with her ability to bring people together and interact with almost anyone. I really like her
That's an amazing talent of her. She's like the big sister of everyone.
Similar to Kaela she has senpai energy even as a Kouhai.
That's what I think of Marine too
Like oshi like fan, I guess
Coincidentally, the two members who used to work for a black company before joining Hololive. 🤣
Black companies change a person for better or worse @@wristcontr0l
The one culture shock I'll never quite get over is that Christmas isn't nearly as holly-jolly in Japan. Though it's a good time of year for fried chicken.
It's not really big in most parts of the world, honestly.
@@Micheldiedbut it is really big in Japan. Just for completely different reasons.
Christmas in Japan is valentines. SEGGS
yeah, definitely a finger-lickin’-good marketing campaign that was
I'm in Japan right now, still a shit ton of Christmas decor and music. Though it's not as bothersome tbh
I'd imagine that Lui would be really surprised at how many of her EN counterparts probably would've dropped everything to make her feel welcome, if there were any nearby -- even on such a short notice. If I had a friend or colleague that was flying X-thousand miles, I know I'd probably make an effort.
I think she knows they'd make an effort and that's why she didn't say anything cause she didn't want them making an effort and complicating their already busy scheadules even more.
Which is what she doesn't want them to do
@@coltsm That's probably it, which is a very Japanese way of thinking.
That's exactly what she doesn't want happening.
How we roll about that kind of stuff is a perplexing culture shock to a Japanese person
Tho i will admit I'd need a week's notice
Something that makes me really happy anytime I see foreigners talking about America is that everyone is very kind.
Americans are quick to self criticize manners but compared to the rest of the world americans are the most friendly and social by far. Even holding doors is irregular in other countries.
They’re just visiting. They don’t have the opportunity to discover it’s a façade.
@@coprographia Stop being a massive loser.
@@coprographiai would say its wrong to call it a facade, merely a facet of the overall experience. Americans are passionate is the best way I can put it. Very kind, but also very everything they do. Very angry at times, very loud when talking, very stubborn and opinionated, but also very kind and open to strangers/conversation. At least compared to the few countries I’ve been to. Americans are just very open with expression of all emotions to the public
@@loserinasuit7880wait holding doors is not normal in other places wow ok I didn't know that
When we go to a certain country, the first thing we do is be surprised by their culture and lifestyle, which is something everyone must experience at least once when traveling overseas
Tbh I would be scared to go in the States right now : S Especially a place like California : S, but I'd like to visit one day in the future
@@TheDorianTube You sound delusional, try not being on the internet for 10 minutes
I was surprised in cultural differences when i go in another cities/province within my own country, let alone on another country
@simulationkoyo Cali doesn't really have the "gun toting hill billy" stereotype. The 2 things that'll kill you in CA are the prices and the druggies, if you can avoid those, you're good
@simulationkoyo except if you take a look at the gun ownership rates in rural areas compared to the actual crime... where we're the most armed, we've got the least crime.
The most dangerous places in the USA are larger cities.
"Gun toting Hillbillies" are usually dangerous if you're trespassing.
The thoughts on American communication were touching. I'm sure in all countries it varies by region. In DC for example, I feel like we are much more reserved and "by the book" than those in California.
I moved to dc from Colorado for work
You're all defensive and your service people are too quiet
First time I ever visited America I was freaked out by how people behaved in public, like the whole street or restaurant was their own home. But once you get used to it, it's quite charming how un-socially awkward everyone is compared to my country.
whole dmv is antisocial lowkey
The old generalization has some truth to it: People in the northeast are kind but not nice, people out west are nice but not kind.
My dad will chat up strangers like they've been life-long friends. It's like some kind of super power (that my antisocial ass didn't inherit)
Each country has their own culture, America and Japan are like night and day pretty much. Im glad that Lui-nee enjoyed her stay here, or like Fubuki says, hamburger country.
Texas is steak country for me.. (I'm sure I'll be shot 😜)
@@yong9613 "(I'm sure I'll be shot 😜)" Only if you bring up beans in chili. /s
To me Japanese and American cultures are surprisingly close in some aspects, especially compared to European culture. Both Japan and America have a strong work ethic, and share this concept of maintaining a "public face" for courtesy (tatemae in Japanese), hiding how they really feel.
Europeans instead tend to work less and prioritize their personal life, taking plenty of vacations (5 weeks per year or more), and they're known for their directness, which can sometimes come across as rude to outsiders.
Of course, there are different types of people everywhere, not everyone fits the stereotype.
@@bennydelon No, Japan and America are nothing alike. For starters, Americans love diversity and promote anything that elevates the status of minorities. The Japanese are very based and disregard anyone who is non-japanese, and don't support that LGBT bs.
@@yong9613 Don't see why you'd be shot. Texans are as proud of their steaks as they are of their BBQ lol.
This made me think about when Mumei first visited Japan for a Holotori collab, she mentioned that she saw an old man fall on the street and nobody helped him up. Subaru indicated it was a big city Tokyo thing, but Lui said it was because Japanese people are too shy, and she seemed a little embarassed about it. (TBF I also think it's a big ciy thing because even in the US rural areas tend to be friendlier and open because the looser presence of central authority means you tend to have to use social skills to work out things for yourself. Ive heard medieval Europe was chatty like this too.) Anyways I think Lui saw an aspect of herself reflected in her culture that she has been trying to improve in a career where interpersonal skills are your bread and butter. Also I think it's sweet how tourists from Asia like the holo girls are so willing to see the good in American culture, whereas visitors from a certain other continent would IMO be more likely to take American frankness and honesty as a sign of an unsophisticated society.
Did Mumei help that man out btw? I’m sure i’ll never find that stream 😢
It's also liability. Japan does not have well written/understandable "good Samaritan" laws.
As well, there's a well established culture of fraudsters.
I think American is a culture that change while japan is more of the one that like to stay the same which can be problematic when doing stuff like the old days can get in the way of making society better like japan work culture and conformity culture not that we shouldn’t be against some tradition we have stuff like Christmas in America but when the stuff is harmful sometime it better to abandon it tho in America we do have conservatives who hate change and they can be a very toxic bunch they went as far as to do an insurrection and attack on Asian, black, and lgbt because they didn’t like the fact American isn’t mostly white peoples anymore and more mix, aren’t accepting of gays still and think it and polygamy are a threat to marriage and some want to force the Bible in school because American is becoming less religious these people are a bunch afraid of change tho is their one I learn about life is that either you change or force to change
In newyork people get stabbed in daylight and no one cares
@@USSAnimeNCC- Well that's just...blatant falsehoods that would make a politician blush. If you tweaked it to be an attempt at satire it'd be a 10/10 representation of what city folk think of rural folk, but it sure as heck isn't based on reality.
American friendliness really stands out around the world. How we just will talk to jus about anyone.
The anecdote that really exemplifies this is about this young backpacker walking into the common room of this hostel in France and says “Bonjour comment allez-….” He’s cut off when someone else says “the Americans are over there” while pointing to a group of ppl.
Bewildered the backpacker said “how’d you know, is my accent that bad?”
The resident says “no, only Americans would walk into a room of strangers and introduce themselves to the group”
What an empathetic and soft spoken person she seems to be. I like her.
I know!! Lui san is so dignified, motivated, and kind. Pure class
In my limited experience, one of the unexpected benefits of experiencing a foreign culture is that it also lets you appreciate your own culture more.
Glad Lui enjoyed Burgerland!
"Burgerland" 🙄
@@TheDetonationlmfao it's whatever bro. Don't even engage
@@TheDetonationHey, I'm American; I'm allowed to make that joke. : )
@@TheDetonationNon-american spotted, fire the football cannon!
@@VoidHxnter SEND IN THE EAGLES!
Glad she enjoyed her visit.
so happy lui liked the states! nothing makes me prouder than watching people visit and have a good time. despite what the media wants to say, it’s truly a lovely place with very kind people. hopefully she visits again sometime! there are so many amazing things to be seen between all of the different states/regions
The one thing that really surprised me the most was how nice most the people were, the total opposite of how Americans are usually portrayed. Like the simple act of holding the door for the next person is non existent where I come from.
@@bradybunch4707 The way people on media tend to depict any place, not simply America, tends to be an overgeneralization of how certain people can act. However, I'm of the belief through my own experiences that most people are friendly, even if sometimes in just small ways. Of course, if you look around enough, or simply stay in one area for a long period of time, you will come across rather crass and undesirable people to be around. Thus is the nature of people. I agree though that it is very nice to hear someone unfamiliar with a location talk about how kind and courteous the people were compared to the negative implications often thrown around.
I agree, though it can differ from state to state, and even city to city, by and large American's are not what the media depicts it to be 24/7.
our OWN media demonizes us constantly. they report mostly about all the screwed up stuff that happens and very rarely about good things. Imagine how much different peoples perception would be if the news was constantly covering all the stories of people selflessly stopping a robbery or shutting down a shooter, or running a massive community charity event. @@bradybunch4707
Americans are very friendly. I'm Canadian, and Americans seem to get a rap for being unfriendly, always being compared to Canadians who are supposedly super polite and friendly, but that hasn't been the case in my experience. As someone who has travelled a lot of the world, people in both countries are some of the friendliest people in the world. But America has a lot of other issues that friendliness can't solve.
I noticed that Japanese are often jealous of the more "open" culture overseas. I think it's a case of "grass is greener". Because overseas, while people are more open to praise you or be friendly or nice... Open also means more open to be critical or confrontational or to say something negative or to hurt your feelings. The polite, closed, reserved, distanced avoidance in Tokyo might be something Japanese are bored of, but it is also something that protects them from a lot of negative things, like fights, and aggression, and rudeness.
Eh. I see it more negatively, I feel like every culture has problems with repressing things and bottling them up, and it's probably better to give people more avenues to express themselves and let out their feelings. A lot of Japanese will express frustration with the (functionally) one-party political system and the way that the elderly have complete control over the young, and it seems like that social order is reinforced heavily by the closed-off social culture.
I wouldn't call your average JP businessman not rude.
He may not see it, but there's malice that's felt if you dare be young in his vicinity
@@Necroskull388 Knowing 3 languages myself and seeing so many communities, I really appreciate how Japan's culture shapes its community, and mostly gravitated towards following jp streams etc nowadays. The most apparent example to me was when I compare SF6 western pro scene to JP pro scene, where the western scene has a lot of manchilds "freely expressing themselves", while the JP scene is so much more mature and more entertaining too. Actually, just looking at stream chats in general is probably a better example. Respectfulness really is something that goes a long way.
私がアメリカに行った時の事を思い出します。
今日、初めて出会った人から十年来の友人のように扱われた。
しかし、次の日。
別の初めて会った人から、親の仇のように憎まれる。
そういうことが、日常でした。
面白い国です。
Aren't the people of Osaka more closer to Americans in that they're more open-minded than the average Japanese?
I'm surprised Lui realizes how big America is, we're the 4th largest nation in the world, people always tend to forget that when they come visit. Way too many times have I seen Europeans talk about how they're going to go from New York to Pennsylvania, to Texas, to California all in a week. Like my guys, you can travel for an entire day and still be in Texas, you're not going to have the time to go to all those states. The USA is nearly the size of Europe combined.
I second the thought-- Texas is no walk in the park. One highway can go from 80 MPH to 50 MPH in 20 miles then for 30 miles of nothing the desert has a random pit spot.
*3rd largest
@@rickkcir2151 third largest by population, yes, but we're talking about area. Russia, Canada and China are all geographically larger than the United States. China and the US are very similar in size, though, enough that if you include water, the US pulls slightly ahead.
A useful metric for Europeans is that LA to New York is roughly the same distance as Lisbon to Moscow (on roads, in a straight line LA to NY is longer).
On the scale of the US, New York to LA is about the same distance as Moscow to Madrid.
Texas alone has the whole "The sun has rise, the sun has set, and we ain't outa Texas yet," thing.
Lui-nee is one lucky hawk able to visit the US.
Hope one day after the festive season is over maybe the EN members can meet up.
The feeling is mutual. I cried of happiness when I visited Tokyo, and cried of sadness when I was leaving because I didn't wanted to leave. I think is normal to admire and appreciate cultures different than yours.
"they're able to speak with people they've never met" umm... yeah exactly, as an american, i can totally relate...
tbf even introverts here are as, if not more, forward than most extroverts in europe and (esp) japan
@@dead-claudia Europe is possibly the most diversity-dense continent on Earth. Some countries are much more open than others, and usually you have large differences within countries as well. As for Japan, I believe this is largely true when referring to the Tokyo metropolitan area / 首都圏, and say, Kyoto, but in other areas (especially the south and Kansai, as well as specific rural areas) introverts are much more rare and people can be rather loud and open, even compared to most Americans.
Japan has 100+ million people, with lots of mountains and seas to separate people, with an extremely long history. So you can't really expect it to be the most monolithic group of people on Earth. Meanwhile in Europe, in addition to mountains and seas, you have language barriers, legislative differences, historical differences etc.
You might be surprised to learn that people in North Africa are genetically and culturally closer to southern Europeans than they are to Sub-Saharan Africans, and similarly, southern Europeans (esp. southern Spain) are in many ways more similar to northern Africans than to northern Europeans. That's the scale of diversity we're talking about----so if you expect any level of cultural cohesion throughout the continent, expect to be disappointed.
@@VVayVVard Nobody expects cultural cohesion in an entire region (calling it a continent is very euro-centric), and Europe is very diverse, but its diversity has been sterilized somewhat after the formation of the EU. Constant interactions have led to more of a cultural melting pot ala the United States, and migration from elsewhere into the EU has been seen quite negatively in recent years.
In short, Europe as a whole seems more diverse, especially in terms of cultural traditions and linguistics, but the diversity of thoughts, beliefs, and culture itself has been getting much smaller. This is in contrast to places like the US or Canada that constantly has massive influxes of differing peoples from all across the world that keeps their own cultural understandings and more from becoming melted into the big pot all at once.
Europe has had great difficulties in properly integrating its immigrant communities from outside of European cultural influence, and part of that difficulty seems to lie in this belief that European diversity is good enough and exceeds their counterpart in the US or Canada, at least from my observations.
Lui at the end made me feel a bit sad knowing how lonely it must be for Japanese people not being able to normally talk to each other as strangers as she said
As we already know, Japan has a culture of being reserved to everyone and telling or showing what you really feel is seem as rude or weird there.
Then how do you make friends over there? Making friends starts with talking to strangers, no? @@cleeiii357
I'm glad she had a great time. I'm from California, so it's interesting to see someone's impression of it, and of the United States culture as well. I've traveled all over the world as a hiker and photographer, so experiencing a new culture definitely gives you more perspective on your own. Though this is the first time I've ever heard someone liking mashed potatoes so much. It would have been cool if some of the EN girls had shown up, but even if they weren't busy with the holidays, most of them would've needed a day to fly out to LA anyway. If she and some of the other JP girls go back, hopefully they'll get to meet up.
Hearing Korone talk about the child following her around was adorable. Highlighted the difference in public interaction with strangers.
Lui loving boxed mashed potatoes reminds me how Canadians love Krafts Mac & Cheese for some reason. Like, it's nice, but shouldn't sell out so much.
man, see you never know. Lui was really over here in Cali and coulda walked past me on the street, and i'd have never known
There's something wonderful about that thought
0:09 Idaho Americans be winning right now. I dub thee Idaho a well deserved W.
- From a Texan.
WE TAKE THOSE
Potatoes in general are really good and versatile. You can make them into anything. I love potatoes a lot.
@@red14carbluebattleship76 Sam would be proud of you.
Idaho? Eww, gross. Their potatoes taste like cardboard. Get your potatoes from Maine.
@@red14carbluebattleship76glasses in general are also very versatile~
What a really nice girl. I'm glad she had a good time. Would've probably loved it in the southeast where I'm from 🙏
Kson (Coco) grew up in Georgia (within Atlanta's economic sphere), and she told us both good and bad stories about living there as a girl of Japanese descent.
@@kwj_nekko_6320 kek georgia isnt the southeast no one likes georgia
The mashed potato thing is so cute and funny. It's such a generic 'cheap' product that I didn't really think about other cultures liking!
I was thinking the same thing. To me, there is no reason to ever buy premade mashed potatoes because it’s so simple to make something so much better. That said I’d get it in her case because travel makes most prep hard.
Hey, those boxed mashed potatoes ain't half bad. I can see why she would like them.
Makes sense. The US really is huge so who knows if they could have even met. A big part of EN doesn't even live there. Some of the members live in Canada, Bae in Australia, IRyS & Calli in Japan, and then there is Kiwawa on the other side of the planet.
Presumably at least one of them is American
@@ImprovmanZero Doesn't Ame still live in America? I don't usually check up with her (which I should), so I might be out of the loop
Ina and Shiorin are like the only ones that are guaranteed to be on the west coast, with FauFau, Mumei, and Watson as uncertain wildcards. All the others are spread out across the continent or even in other hemispheres.
gura: YOU WENT WHERE WITHOUT ME?!
Gura would have been perfect to show around Disneyland
Sadly the one Gura has memorized is Disney World, which is on the other coast.
Lui is cool as all hell. its weird she still feels "new" to me even though she has been around two years now and she never fails to be impressive
Very glad to hear she had a positive experience. Although I believe a lot of California's issues are frequently exaggerated I was still worried regardless lol
Same
There's an Australian UA-camr called "martincopants" that have his first trip to California, and it was...something.
Think of those issues as being stashed into a closet where tourists rarely see them but residents experience them.
California is like a coin flip. The area is either really beautiful and safe or dirty and dangerous. There is no in between 😅
Just like…basically everywhere, I guess, it really depends where you go. LA alone can cover the whole spectrum of shitty to great
She doesn't know where everyone lived? That's no excuse. Everyone knows all Americans live in Texas, New York City, and Disneyland. But in all seriousness, it's so sweet to hear Lui describe how positive her experience was. I hope she gets to visit the South and Midwest sometime. People only get nicer the further you get from cities.
Lui: I went to an American supermarket.
Me: NOOOO! NOT WALMART!
They probably went to a whole foods, Aldi or Kroger pfft
Hopefully it wasn’t an Erewhon! 😂
@@BeyondDaXI think they mentioned Walmart on their collab return stream.
Honestly, if I was visiting the US for the first time I'd probably want to visit a Walmart just for the experience. I know if I ever visited Japan I'd want to check out 7-Eleven and DonQui.
I stated walmart as a joke since I have never seen any goofy antics at a walmart. Then again, I'm only there to get my food and leave so I'm not loitering around...@@borotorob
Oh my god I love Lui what an absolute sweetheart imagine how much better the internet would be if everyone thought like her
people that don't live in/have never been to the united states tend to really underestimate how big it is. Taking a jet from one coast to the other takes ~6 hours, and if you were to drive by car, if you did it non-stop you could do it in ~3 days, but most people take about a week to go from one end to the other by car.
Me, eating from my daily bag of salted rice crackers in Tokyo: Mashed potatoes, huh? Wild.
Instant mashed potato is a strange thing to fall in love with, but somehow it doesn't surprise me that Lui did
I guess it's like boxed curry and instant ramen.
It's all the drugs they put in the pre-packaged processed slop to get people addicted, all under the full approval of the USDA and the FDA.
In other countries, an hour drive is a long drive, here, it's a commute to work. lol
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness. And many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one litte corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain
Only White people believe platitudes like this.
In modern times, the same thing can be said of Internet echo chambers. Most people tend to believe that their echo chamber is the enlightened one, but spend long enough in other ones, it becomes increasingly apparent that all sides have good arguments that the others lack.
And of course learning the language of a starkly different culture (like Japanese for someone who natively speaks a European language, or vice versa) feels like being plunged to an isekai. It's so interesting how everything in our experience is so powerfully dictated by our native culture.
I totally understand not meeting up with EN girls but I wish they had 🥺. America really is a huge country compared to Japan (370,000sq KM vs 9,800,000sq KM) and you can't really ask them to travel that much. Hopefully we'll have more international offline collabs soon.
Loving mashed potatoes almost already makes you an honorary American in my book
Throw in steaks or hamburgers and it's completely clinched.
It doesn't help that our government treats long or short-distance public transit like an ultimate evil.
And they think they'll save the environment by taxing you more.
@@ジョジョさまoh they don't think the increased taxes will save the environment. They think the increased taxes will fund the construction of their bunkers where they can hide out when the environment becomes uninhabitable.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy If they thought the environment was changing they wouldn't be buying beach front property all the time. Fucks sake. You're still believing half a lie.
I agree with Lui, humble and open have things to offer. That why I think choosing when to be humble or when to be open is important. Being all of one or the other isn't going to allow you to achieve everything you desire.
I’m glad whenever someone has a good time in another country and has good interactions with people. I’m like “Yay, people behaved well!” 😅
Honestly, seeing Lui and the others having such a positive impression from visiting makes me goddamn proud to be American.
*Especially* the boxed mashed potatoes.
Imagine being "goddamn proud" over the simple fact that someone didn't have a bad time while visiting your country.
@@-Devy- Its because the US is constantly paraded around as being this hellhole where you get gunned down walking 5 minutes outside of your home when in reality the US isn't that bad. Some places are definitely worse than others (don't go to Detroit). But yeah when you only hear the worst you expect the worst, but that's why nobody has any faith in the media anymore, its all doom 24/7.
that isn't what they said tho?@@-Devy-
@@-Devy- Them: "having such a positive impression from visiting"
You: "Imagine being "goddamn proud" over the simple fact that someone *didn't have a bad time* while visiting your country." (emphasis mine)
They said "they had a good time" and you read it as "they didn't have a bad time" and you directly insulted them out of nowhere because you don't know what words mean. Learn to read, douchebag.
@-Devy- Wouldn't you be happy if someone left a positive review on where you live? It's better than constantly hearing all the different ways people can say "America sucks".
That speaking openly with strangers feeling is definitely more prevalent in the South & Midwest from my experience. So it can be shocking to other Americans that come from other regions too, lol!
Yeah, I'm from Seattle and nobody says anything (I guess it's called the 'Seattle freeze'). However I've noticed that a lot of people will actually engage in conversations as long as you're the one to get the ball rolling.
For me, moving from the east coast to the midwest was a crazy experience. Strangers just…talk to each other?? And do nice things and nobody’s surprised or overly appreciative, they just accept it? I do think the JP girls’ experience of America as ‘open’ is probably true across the country compared to Japan, but I wonder if the east coast would have less of that culture shock
If she thought California was open, she should visit Louisiana.
thank you for the clip!
To be fair realistically there’s only a few EN members who had the possibility of meeting them judging by the time zones they use and they are all pretty busy at the moment. Not saying they wouldn’t try to meet up because I’d imagine a lot of them would want to make time to see them but it makes sense Lui might not want to mention it
Only two or three of them are even on the west coast, and it was the peak of the holiday rush.
It was just the least convenient time possible for that kind of thing, but if the experience was good, then it won't be the last opportunity they'll get.
Every Japanese person:
*_flies to SoCal and goes to Disneyland_*
"I went to America"
You will never guess what country California is in
To be fair, it is no different than us saying we went to Japan, the UK, Germany, and France when in reality we only stopped in Tokyo, London, Berlin, and Paris.
Personally, I don't consider myself having truly gone to another country unless I have visited outside the major cities/capitals.
@@troybaxter "when in reality" this is silly, in reality you went to all of those countries. You do not need to explore every corner of a nation to say that you went there.
If you want to be more specific and say the city instead of the country, then go right ahead. Doesn't really change how asinine it is to word things in a way that suggest that a city or state aren't where they are. What if some geographically challenged numb-nuts got the idea that California is a different country or something from that post?
I'm being an ass about this, I know
@@PerplexedPlayers I was just pointing out to OP that Americans do it too, and MY standards for if I have visited another country or not. That is all.
I've been overseas. Multiple times in fact, and outside of a couple countries I have been outside the major touristy cities and actually got to experience a bit of the culture. I just hold myself to a standard.
@@troybaxter Technically speaking, if you went to the capital of Singapore you'd have visited the country by your definition, haha.
文化が違いすぎるよね…
海外に友達がいるって羨ましい…>
I am American and when someone suddenly starts talking to me, I do think I'm about to be tricked.
I think it's the difference in "talking with someone" at all levels. For example; we will say "Good day", "Hi", or nod to any we pass by while taking a walk at the very least as a sort of acknowledgment that the other person exists and that we will be entering their personal space for a brief period of time.
That's practically unheard of in Japan. They'd consider that as "talking".
@@Tiypo1337 I'll do the nod. Otherwise passing right by someone on the sidewalk is just awkward.
Stay in the Midwest a while.
People give you their life story at the supermarket regularly, ya get used to it.
Yeah, it’s probably where I live but the nicest thing I can do for people is open the convenience store door if I’m entering before them. If I say good afternoon I get looked at like I’m about to jump them LMAO
imagine being robbed by someone who just said good afternoon
@@huhreally5771 i imagine its rarer in big cities. but who says 'good afternoon?' it's like a greeting from the 50s. i'd feel like i was enterting the twilight zone.
I've never seen someone give presents in public and before Christmas that is. So that's kind of rare 😅
maybe grandparents flew in to meet family in Disney.
@@grilledflatbread4692 hence why I said it was rare. But having them think we do that all time is kinda cute i guess lol
Glad we made a good impression on her lol
Never seen your content but this popped up in my feed. Glad you liked coming to the states and that you had fun. We love to hear visitors enjoying themselves and yeah we can be quite open. I once chatted up a lady in Europe and her family on a train and mid conversation she looked at me and said point blank "I don't understand how Americans can be so warm and familiar with complete strangers. I would feel so uncomfortable." I hadn't even told her I was American yet! :D
A stranger is a friend you aint made yet! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
You seem to be unfamiliar with vtuber culture. This channel is merely a clipping channel that records, posts, and translates segments of livestreams. If you want to tell Lui something, you can superchat when she's streaming.
Also, I'm from Asia myself and every American I've met has been very nice. We Filipinos often like to say that we're very hospitable, but I feel like Americans are far more hospitable than we are. I stayed at a hostel owned by an American and he was super chatty and sociable despite his old age, which even as an introvert I found quite nice. You see, though not as reticent as the Japanese, we're still rather reticent compared to Americans. We're not the type to chat random strangers up on the street, nor are we as bold with sharing our opinions. It was also nice opportunity to use English to converse with a native speaker, since I'm more fluent than most of my peers but rarely get the opportunity to use it outside of university. I did get a kick out of how he earnestly tried to speak the native language but mispronounced the words with an accent, and even tried speaking Japanese when I told him I was learning the language. English isn't as syllabic a language as Japanes or the local languages in the Philippines, so he had some trouble with not saying long vowels. He was also rather hesitant to discuss the politics of his home country, probably because he realized that Filipinos aren't nearly as passionate about such matters as Americans are. I'm an exception though, since I am quite passionate about it, but don't really have a chance to talk about it with my peers since they aren't as into it. The funny thing was that the old man was on the exact opposite of me on the political spectrum, saying that he preferred Biden over Trump because he was "kinder", and that he'd vote for him no matter how old he was. Personally, I'd much rather have a competent leader that isn't necessarily kind, so long as their intentions are benevolent, but in the end our politics didn't really inspire hatred or division. It's quite different from what I typically see of Americans online, though it likely has something to do with him being an older gentleman and not having the energy to be as passionate as younger Americans. Are Americans really as politically heated as they seem from across the Pacific Ocean?
Ah, the Hawk visits the Eagle
the girls deserve to travel lots.. the world is an oyster
The Us is Huge, Just California is about the size of Japan.
ah a fellow mashed potato lover, nice.
A girl from Japan I knew told me she thought Americans were 'big in all ways'
Big personality, tall, loud, and very kind and happy.
Hearing that was nice.
just dont let her know about hospital bill. It would be the REAL culture shock lol
I moved to the US last year and I have mostly replaced most of my sources of carbs with the instant idaho mashed potato, it's pretty addicting
I love Lui, her and Marine are best wifu material in Holo, they just are genuinely (well as much as we can tell) 'good people', not that the other HoloGirls are not good people, but Lui/Marine have that certain "this is wife material, not best friend/girlfriend material" vibe. Also, Lui Japan, as a culture can be humble and well mannered and still *not* shun people for giving others hugs in public :P
Also, I love when people figure out the size difference between the US and other countries, especially people in SEA/Japan/Western Europe... I mean I am jealous that they can actually go "well I want Italian for dinner tonight, time to hop on the train and go to Italy" But, it is still funny watching people's reactions.
I would add Choco to that group
@@Tahanok2 Could be, I just have not watched her as much... So many girls so little time :(
Hag love!
Gotta throw Mion, Shishiron, and OkaKoro on that list as well. Maybe even Ao-kun.
There's a reason this community has turned the word "hag" into a positive descriptor.
Boxed mashed potatoes? Oh no lui.
Even just California is monstrously vast. The drive from redding to Baja is literally all day
Boxed mashed potatoes... that's a low bar. Her head would explode if she had an old school country grandma fix her a proper meal.
Well it's a good thing she knows Calli then. Grandma Reaper has that covered.
I'm sure she'd like it, but no harm in keeping preference for that one particular low-brow food that just HITS
@@KVergara Yeah, especially when you know you can easily make it whenever you want with very little effort.
Is Christmas a big thing over there?...
no.
no...
It is beyond what your mind can comprehend even the ancient ones fear the sound of bells...
It would be nice to imagine them sightseeing something truly unique to the US, like the Grand Canyon, or NASA facilities and the Smithsonians, or the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Not merely an American urban sprawl. I guess Disneyland is semi-unique, at least...?
Our national parks services in general are downright unique in the context of first-world developed nations.
I can just imagine them going to the Grand Canyon, or maybe Yellowstone or just checking out the redwoods on the coast.
Cheap fares from Japan to LA mate
God I love her voice! Its also cool to hear about my country from other people.
"America is vast", I see that Lui is still as observant and aware as ever, California as a state alone is as big or even bigger than Japan the country (in term of sheer land mass).
also, did they mention why 4 hololive JP members decided to go to America around the holiday season (Around Thanksgiving to Christmas)? Was it for holiday, or some other reasons?
Either that, and/or it just so happened that that's when they had time to travel.
Well they don't do Thanksgiving, and Christmas is more of a romantic holiday in Japan than a family holiday, they probably all just had some time off because there's no big events to prepare for right now.
@@OrbObserver
[HololiveJP girls outside of a KFC on Christmas Eve in America]
"I can't believe there isn't a line around the block! We're so lucky!"
well in this very clip she said that they only decided on the date a week in advance, so it wasnt due to thanksgiving.
initially she just wanted to go with korone, but miko and flare tagged along.
as for why now... my best guess from observing the last few years is that the time of november to the first half of december is intentionally kept slow in hololive and talents are encouraged to take time off, before they start doing stuff for christmas and new years (the latter being a big thing in japan) and then start with the expo/fes preparations for march.
@@matchesburn though isn't Japan KFC held to higher quality standards then USA KFC?
4:00 I like how she expresses it here, referring to different cultures as "different worlds". That's very much how it has felt to me.
Can someone explain her first story -- what's a culture shock about a grandparent giving their grandchildren a present and them being super happy? I would have thought that would be pretty universal across all cultures.
my guess is they aren't used to seeing it on the street
Christmas time is more of a romantic thing in Japan that's for lovers. You *can* celebrate it with family but it's not the same. So she might have been surprised/confused to see a family enjoying time with each other with gifts within that context.
I think I said similar in another comment thread, but my first experience of America was Inwas shocked by how everyone treats public spaces like they were their own home. They're so comfortable, not worrying what other people are thinking. So, I think it was more of that.
I was wondering about that. In my culture, you aren't supposed to open presents until you go home. Not sure what Japan does. Quick google says you don't open presents in public in Japan either.
Travel always changes your perception of the world. That's why they are always the best investment in yourself.
Since my country uses Japanese transportation system as examples, albeit the outdated ones, it does feel like it's harder to go places in America without your own car. I can only imagine the inconvenience Japanese might feel since they are used to public transportation is far more efficient than me.
I mean... It just isn't possible for a country the size of America to have an integrated and extensive public transport system like Japan's. America would bankrupt itself several times over attempting to build that much infrastructure.
@@matchesburn Says a country that spends almost 2/3 of it's tax money for foreign military "exploits"
@@matchesburn Funny thing is, the US has a very good rail system, but that rail system is used for cargo rather than passenger/commute.
@@matchesburn No it wouldn't. Everyone is already expected to own and maintain their own car, which is itself a massive expense. We also already have rail networks, they're just for freight instead of passengers. It absolutely would not bankrupt us -- we're the world's strongest economy. Where did you get your data on this? I've never seen a serious economic analysis that produces this perspective.
@@Necroskull388
We already have failing infrastructure we can't afford to fix/rebuild/replace. It's well known that many of America's bridges are needing replacements. And you think we can have a public transportation system that's as extensive as Japan's for all over America?
My dude... That would cost trillions upon trillions upon trillions of dollars. No, we can't afford it. The scale is simply too large.
It is quite fascinating to see the youngest child can have the maturity and wisdom more expected from the oldest child; it applies to both Lui and Botan; in fact I thought of them as the oldest at the beginning.
It's funny cause on social media it's all whining and fighting, but America is really one of the most welcoming and hospitable countries. Not to degrade others, but I've travelled alot (mostly western Europe) and they're very insular, whereas America is open and approachable in general.
It's fun to see people from other places experience real America, rather than just what's on social media, because that's like 1% of what we are, and I'm proud to be from here.
Yea people terminally online think this and its not true and same can be said about other countries aswell things arent as bad as people say they are bar the very extreme cases but those usually have travel warnings xD.
I'm an American, too- and YOU CAN KISS MY ASS AND FIGHT ME IN THE DIRT WITH A STICK
F**K YOU
And I hope your family is doing well, I hope you get to spend time with them during the holiday season. Nothing but love to you!
Most of the whining and fighting I feel are a minority. But they are so loud in social media its annoying. It's like they are trying to influence the general mass.
@@iJakku you're not wrong.
You can find very different people that'll find more to laugh and joke about together than argue about.
Social Media is a false reality
@@iJakku Oh, they're trying, alright. I've ran into my fair share of terminally online users spreading falsehoods and fake news, inflammatory comments and fringe political lunacy, but then I go outside, go for a little walk and say hi to all my neighbors. Much as Lui was saying, people are generally nice and welcoming. If they weren't, well, society wouldn't function.
3:15 "People tend to be more straight when they speak overseas".
Me: huh, oh...
"People tend to be "straight forward", overseas".
Most tourists: visit a variety of restaurants
Lui: finds a supermarket and buys boxed potatoes
Me, an American: ❓❓❓
But hey, I suppose I get it. She found something she enjoyed and also got to see the gift giving part of the holidays up front, so it's all good 😅
In her defense when I was in HK I was scrounging the MTR Malls like I was in Disneyland... hell even just getting lost in the 'districts' of HK and the Island of Central to Kowloong was amazing. She was also feeling a culture shock
American Lui arc. Next time, Texas 🤠
Lui-nee afraid to telling them "let's meet up" with such short notice.
meanwhile Kobo come to Ollie's place at 4 AM then they raided Reine's house.
Not even comparable tbf
As she said, America is VAST
I mean yeah... a reminder was when I was driving 9 hours and I was still in my state of Texas... I was baffled@@norad_clips
Kobo lives a few blocks from Ollie and the rest of ID2.
Ina and Shiorin are the only two EN members that are even confirmed to live on the same side of the continent as the place Lui et al were visiting, and it was the peak of the holiday rush.
That said, it sounds like the trip went well, so it probably won't be the last one the JPs make.
Weird Al tried to tell us, mashed potatoes CAN be your friend.
But Kiara doesn't live in America 🤣🤣
Hope they can meet and have fun together one day tho!
🤣 Lui fell in love with the garbage boxed mashed 'potatoes' that turn into absolute glue when they aren't hot anymore? Wowza
We Americans may be insane but we have our moments 😂❤
Thanks for this clip! I'm glad Lui can appreciate US openness. And I'm glad she mentioned how vast the US is. California can be a weird barometer to measure this huge, varied land and its people.
And whats impressive is Cali has a different feel than lets say NYC. I wish these girls would travel to NYC and they can see the big melting pot of so many different race and cultures. Its amazing
Read the 1790 naturalization act. The founding fathers would be ashamed of such things.
Honestly this depends on where you live in America. I feel like Lui and co. experienced openness while they were there because they were visiting tourist areas. But I'd say Americans in big cities are generally pretty closed off. Suburbs and Rural areas are where Americans are more open, and you might see them while visiting tourist areas in a big city.
Ame is busy, but she seemed to live within a few hours drive of where they were.
I suppose it comes down to the little differences between an Island Culture (Japan) and a mercantile Frontier Culture (U.S). In that interactions are necessary and impressions (whether good or bad) have far fewer ramifications because you go 100 miles in any direction you will never see those people ever again even if you travel back to the same point. That being said, I'm glad she had a good time and my only advice is DO NOT GO TO NYC... I'm from NY and even I thought NYC was the rudest place I had ever been... You will get the worst impressions of Americans ever and it's literally just another big city like all the others... Go to Boston instead. (This advice goes for Europeans as well... or anyone really lol)
Yeah, Boston is generally a bit friendlier. It's especially true for Europeans because it still has some traces of the old European styles compared to most major cities in the country.
Bostonites really will being up where they live and about 70% of their life story no matter when and where you meet them, and I respect it.
lol I live in NY and if you can handle California you can handle NY, there are way crazier people over there than over here. Hell I think I've met more rude people when I was in Florida than here.
@@destiny13777 New York or NYC? There is a huge difference.
@@ThePenitentSquirrel I live in Brooklyn but I work in Manhattan
so luineesan have experience to homestaying in america before joining hololive? that's impressive and her english has been improved now
Whenever a member talks about Americans being nice, I kinda wonder how much of it is people just being able to tell they're a tourist who's a bit lost. We're definitely more open about talking to strangers, but it being taken as actually being nice always surprises me a bit.
Wild that within network their locations are kept confidential. But that sounds fair because then any meet up *has* to be planned with a designated location (if it was NA-EN, i could see Los Angeles as the default)
The crazy thing, compared to the rest of the country, California might as well be a different world. Hard to really get a feel for “America” when moving from one side to the other is like a fourth of the globe in actual distance.
Honestly when the culture can change from state to state, it’s hard for most Americans to even presume they understand America. I think those differences is honestly really beautiful and it’s sad that so many today see these things that make us different as a bad thing, when at the end we’re all Americans (of course referring to those who live in America lol)
The three locals Japanese tourists visit the most in America are New York City, Los Angeles, and Honolulu. None of them, I feel, are all that good at representing America as a nation. Then again, with the way things are right now, maybe that's for the best...
@@Dragonpit There isn't any single state that can be good at representing the entire nation, physically or culturally.
Actually the actor hugh laurie said in an interview, "America is too big to know itself." I think he's quite correct. California is quite different from say, texas or New york. The states are as diverse as it's people. Americans used to come together under similar ideals. We struggle a bit now because of how polarizing politics has become, but in reality, your average citizen just struggles to make ends meet.
@@Xantosdude Yeah, it's a bit sad that the politics has become the forefront of what people see from America. American's too only see that sometimes just because of how social media and news stations work.
Most of America is honestly quite nice.
Americans will put themselves in debt on Christmas to see their family members happy and I think that's kinda sweet in its own way
As an American, I have to say that boxed mashed potatoes are gross.
my first and last time making mashed potatoes, i had to mash them by fork. after seeing how goddamn smooth instant mashed potato texture is compared to my handmade, there's no way i'd spend 30 minutes doing it by fork again when instant is great quality
Hu? American here. When made right w/ some extra touches, they are so damn good.
Much prefer boxed over homemade which lump up big time w/ leftovers.
i love them. the idahoan ones are delicious. i got my wisdom teeth out once and was feasting on those for a month lol
@@yuuschzhie8822 Don't use a fork, there are special mashers you can buy that aren't pricey. Also, if mashed potatoes are too smooth, it's like eating something akin to yogurt rather than a mash, and that's kind of unpleasant.
I'm stuck wondering how she reheated them, since she said she took leftovers. Hope she had gravy....
1:12 yeah good thing Lui knows this. You literally get other European and Asian tourist wanting to see the Golden Gate Bridge in the morning and then the Statue of Liberty in the afternoon and getting there by only driving cause they're so used to getting to different countries or provinces in like an hour or two. They always get shocked when people tell them it will take them a week or so by car alone lmao.