Make a DIY Motorcycle DYNO with ARDyno - Part 2 - J's Garage
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2020
- It is the final build time for my ARDyno inertia dyno! I have been waiting for some free time to make the second part.
It's still in the final testing phase so excuse the cobbled togetherness of it all.
I cover some of the issues I had with sensors and do a quick "power run" on a very clapped out scooter/moped
Guest starring a Derbi Variant Revolution Start V 2 Stroke
ardyno.weebly.... - Get an ARDyno board for yourself
www.youtube.co.... - 2strokestuffing
s.click.aliexpr... - Uno R3
s.click.aliexpr... - NPN Hall sensor
s.click.aliexpr... - Inductive Clamp
www.thingivers... - Case I used to house the R3 and shield
I used a littelfuse sensor 55505, it is a inductance gear tooth sensor, similar to a vehicle wheel speed sensor or a crank or cam sensor for automotive use. It is available at digi key or mouser.
www.littelfuse...
ARDyno just requires a big roller, this one is about 300lbs for just the roller itself. Then you need a RPM input signal from the roller and also an RPM input from the engine you are running.
I still have lots of learning to do for the software but it does spit out numbers!
Some of the tools I use:
Vevor Case splitter/ Crank Puller Combo:
s.click.aliexp...
Multi Piece Flywheel Puller:
s.click.aliexp...
Piston TDC/Ignition Measuring tool:
s.click.aliexp...
Pressure Tester
s.click.aliexp...
Roller Weight Scale
s.click.aliexp...
Dial Indicator with Magnetic Base
s.click.aliexp...
Crimp Tool for Motorcycle/Automotive Plugs
s.click.aliexp...
Fluke Multimeter
s.click.aliexp... - Авто та транспорт
Im interested to see more about this DIY dyno and software. Keep the videos rolling!
That project box is pretty slick! Nice vid. Thank you for sharing.
When I get home I will throw a link up to it on thingiverse in the description.
@@pitobread Cheers, mate.
I love it... Easy simple useful
Nice to see the master back at work 👍
gracias viejo , nadie explica nada como configurar este software , te ganaste un sub y un me gusta , gracias
Gracias, de nada
Any update on this? I have wanted to build one for a while. It would make tuning so much easier. I can hardly imagine doing jetting/rollers/clutch springs without annoying my neighbors. Currently I have a road I blast but I know I am pissing people off.
No, I moved shortly after I did this video into a smaller garage and had to start doing reno's etc. It's sitting in the corner I will hopefully someday get back to it..
Thanks for the update!
Rpm pickup only used 1 ground that clamped to the bike from the ardyno? And one wire that was wrapped around plug wire? Thanks
Yes the trigger was just a wire wrap on the spark plug wire and one ground.
Hi i hope you can help me. Is the littelfuse 55505 sensor plug and play on the ardyno pcb?? No need for resistors in line? I have a cheapo hall sensor like your aliexpress one and it works but simpledyno will record is as 5000000rpms every time the magnet passes. Im wondering if the sensor is wrong.
Yes, it works out of the box, at least in my usage.
I tried a few different aliexpress/amazon sensors but they did not work right at all. You can try changing the magnet polarity n/s s/n to see if that helps but most of the china sensors I tried were flaky at best.
So are those figures correct ? your wheel mass was 131kg ? also doesnt your rear gearbox have a ratio of 10:1
or something not 1 as you had shown.....and you had 1000mm for tyre wheel diameter , and looks like you have added the mass of the shaft and roller twice unless the program can
calculate the difference between the shaft going through the roller so not to add all the shaft weight/mass if that make sence.....download performance trends demo version and enter the figures in there program wheel setup to double check yours etc.... Brett
No probably not. I had not messed with anything other than reading thru the on screen prompts.
IIRC in the ARDyno it has both the mass of the roller and the mass of the shaft and makes you input it in separate areas but I haven't looked at it in a while.
I will check out the other software but my dyno is still in the corner of my garage since I moved and I haven't looked at it in a while.
the sensor looks just like a crank position sensor out of a late model twin cam Harley.
Could very well be.
How are the weighted wheel dimensions?
L w h depth. Weight?
Want to duplicate
it was about 12x12
Any updates on this project?
Sweet you are back :)
I'm always tinkering, just haven't had enough time to do a video!
@@pitobread this is how it sometimes goes when you are tinkering :)
Hi bro, I saw your intake system honda dio 18 on the forum, please share the stl file. In our country, these are very difficult to find, but if you find them, they cost like a car.
ua-cam.com/video/egk8q5cZH78/v-deo.html
I was really having trouble with the RPM pickup from the first sparks, though I was very good at anti-jamming. I also tried with capacitive touch clamps and also tried winding wires on high-voltage wires, but it didn't work. right from the start, the PC hung.
Is there any better experience you can share with me?
Thank you so much for your help!
My inductive clamp was not good, I would say failure would be more correct.
Wrapping the ignition wire was the only solution that worked for me.
Hello, thanks for the vid. I need an Ardyno board. Cant get a repsonse from 2StrokeStuff. If i comes to it, can I get a pic of your board, so I can have some made? Thanks.
I think he has the diagram of the circuit up on the ARDyno Website.
Did you ever get a response from him? I’ve just sent him a message as well. I’m going to be building a dyno for my university’s Baja racing team
What is your drum off I’m looking to build one
It was made out of scrap.
I've build one of these. Mine is reading low hp, i know the engine is about 7 hp but it reads 1.5. Any idea what the problem could be?
maybe what you are inputting into the program is not correct like the wheel weight and diameter mass etc.....
Have you looked for a Fan to cool the radiator? Isn't that a problem or in small runs doesn't escalate temperature that quickly ?
Heatsoak is always a concern with consecutive runs on a dyno. That motor was air cooled and it was probably about 10c in the shop. But yes a large blower fan to cool the engine is needed.
@@pitobread what should be the airflow quantity you would be aiming for? when chosing a fan to cool the radiator.
Hi sir, awesome work! Do you know where i can get a hold of ardyno board?
You can make your own, the circuit is very easy.. I think 2 stroke stuffing is no longer making them himself.
You can make it on breadboard pretty easily, I think he has the schematic on the website.
Want a piece of advise with the RPM pulse acquisition rather than using the INDUCTIVE to which no other electrical devices are near the test that produces other noise or magnetic field that will give a glitch on that sensor.
Find an appropriate electronic circuit that will catch the PULSER COIL going to the ECU if FI or CDI if carbureted...the Pulser coil is the one that provides the true rotational power of the engine. That is what we did with our project and very consistent at all runs.
Thanks i will look into that if I have issues.
how can i have the ardyno here in the philippines
Make one! get some breadboard and make the circuit. It's not very complex.
@@pitobread I don't have the schematic diagram to make one. If you can send me I will build one. Thanks you for responding❤️
@@earlskie78castillo77 ardyno.weebly.com/instructions.html
Diagram is down lower on that page.
He may have some for sale but he usually doesnt have any stock.
@@pitobread thank you👍👍👍
I built my own ardyno and it's about to complete with ardyno circuit board. Can you help me source for arduino r3 or not? Please help me so I can perfect my project
help me, huudongqt@gmail.com
Hey I purchased my arduino off aliexpress. There is a link in the description.
@@pitobread thank you !
How’d that ardyno board go?
Does anyone have the PCB file? Cant seem to find it anywhere.
@2strokestuffing has them available on his patreon.
the old website had the schematic which could be made into a pcb
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I really don't think this works as a dyno. All it will measure is the work required to bring the wheel up to a reasonable speed where friction will become the limiting factor. A proper dyno must have an opposing force you can measure.
This is an Inertia Dyno. It is a well documented type of dyno that works for my requirements.
Your description on how this doesn't work describes exactly how it does. You have a static mass and you measure the time of the acceleration. I have not seen any wheel slip on mine, but mine is knurled.
@@pitobread I see. I guess that would work for small motors.
@@ericthered9655 It works for any size. Your mass has to be correct for the range you are looking for. They make inertia dynos for cars even.
@@pitobread I understand the concept. The problem is the physics assume zero friction. So yes, if you used a massive flywheel you could measure anything provided it doesn't spin the wheel so fast that friction changes the equation.
Do you have HORSE POWER SIGNAL? Or an idea for this?
AR dweeno lol like wtf bro
It’s dyno as in dinosaur ffs
So there is an arduino board inside the control box and also an ardyno board inside the box....
It is the simplest INERTIA DYNO u can find..and it works as it was intended..IF u just know what you are doing. we have it. and the moment you change any on the bike being tested will actually be NOTED and VISIBLE on the plotted graph...That is the only main target of the SIMPLEST DYNO ever..555 timer as capture shaping of the sensor pulses will not work...too many glitches..that is why maybe ARDYNO was junked.