WC3 - [ORC] Lyn vs Eer0 [UD] - WB Final - Warcraft 3 All-Star League - Season 1 - Monthly 3

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    🏆 Warcraft 3 All-Star League - Season 1 - Monthly 3 • WC3 - [UD] Sheik vs Si...
    Group B - WB Final
    [ORC] Lyn vs Eer0 [UD]
    Cast by: Remo
    Date: May 16th, 2024
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  • @robertbendkowski3385
    @robertbendkowski3385 29 днів тому +6

    Lyn is a freaking god. I feel like this dude knows the next 10 moves of his opponents, can be in 10 places on the map at the same time, and can watch a Netflix series on a second screen in the meantime.

    • @GuiSilva84
      @GuiSilva84 29 днів тому

      Damn spoiler comments.

  • @tobiasbki443
    @tobiasbki443 28 днів тому +3

    love to watch those wyvern plays, so much to micro for both, I think UD looks shocked by this strat right now, they will certainly have to come out of theiry comfort zone and try Fiend strats or so.

    • @jacintoramon1313
      @jacintoramon1313 28 днів тому +1

      The problem with fiends is that they loose vs berserkers/ kodos raiders very hard

    • @tobiasbki443
      @tobiasbki443 28 днів тому

      @@jacintoramon1313 then fiends and ghouls, I mean UD builds are very stiff.. they make ghouls, statues, destros. Sometimes banshees..

    • @jacintoramon1313
      @jacintoramon1313 28 днів тому +2

      @@tobiasbki443 well theres not much more for the orc vs ud. Fiends loose, banshees are pointless, necros, wagons, wyrms and aboms are horrible vs orc.
      Ghouls and statues with splashing destros and gargs. And they are loosing to wyverns because the space that orcs first hero can get, i think SH wyverns is better than TC wyverns but they appear to be working.
      If someone has any idea why would you play TC over SH, u think is way worse.

    • @tobiasbki443
      @tobiasbki443 28 днів тому

      @@jacintoramon1313 there could be more, elfs started mass fairies, I think thanks to moon weird strats were taken serious, UD just have to get balls.

    • @jacintoramon1313
      @jacintoramon1313 28 днів тому

      @@tobiasbki443 well with ball maybe try mass gargs like 3 crypt gargs and 2 wyrms for slow and a dreadlord third? No destros and no ghouls.

  • @alexch3618
    @alexch3618 25 днів тому

    15:24. imagine if instead of gargs, 120 had fiends. those bats would've been dead supply. either forced to stay back, or webbed immediately.

  • @leonnunhofer3453
    @leonnunhofer3453 29 днів тому +2

    I would love to see the BM more often. It's a cool hero.

    • @alexch3618
      @alexch3618 26 днів тому +1

      blademaster is living in the nerf zone.

    • @xtremelemon8612
      @xtremelemon8612 25 днів тому

      @@alexch3618not true, look at fly100% and how he is decimating everyone with it, and he keeps using it no matter which map and what is the opponent doing. He probably is the best BM user there is out there now but still he shows you are not forced to go far seer first every game

    • @alexch3618
      @alexch3618 25 днів тому

      @@xtremelemon8612 are you living 10 years ago?

  • @lukaslussem9463
    @lukaslussem9463 29 днів тому +1

    Why is the ShadowHunter AGI and not INT based?

    • @leonnunhofer3453
      @leonnunhofer3453 29 днів тому +1

      Because it would be op. He would get something like +3 dmg instead of +1.5 per level, and would make a lot of dmg with his int items. They don't want him to be a glass cannon, but a spell caster and healer

  • @RightLowKick-LeftHook
    @RightLowKick-LeftHook 29 днів тому +1

    GG! Lyn is too good.

  • @user-bm8lb9se3l
    @user-bm8lb9se3l 29 днів тому +25

    The other world class undead players prove that what OP is not the Undead but Happy himself.

    • @kimeric7673
      @kimeric7673 29 днів тому +4

      No Happy isn't that special. He's just using the OP race.

    • @demetrenikabadze5468
      @demetrenikabadze5468 29 днів тому +2

      While i agree that happy is beasy, 120 is not in form … lost series to moon, lyn even to blade…

    • @VegaMK2
      @VegaMK2 29 днів тому +1

      @@kimeric7673 That's why the top 5 is all undead, right?

    • @EricM93
      @EricM93 29 днів тому +4

      @@VegaMK2 lol what? after happy and 120 no other ud even top 10

    • @VegaMK2
      @VegaMK2 29 днів тому +8

      @@EricM93 That's exactly what I'm implying; if UD was so strong then the top 5 would be full of undead instead of just Happy, and occasionally 120, people just refuse to accept that Happy is that good.

  • @ivankirkov
    @ivankirkov 29 днів тому

    Great skill!

  • @anysnix7545
    @anysnix7545 12 днів тому

    Tome: +1 to Algorithm

  • @nightyonetwothree
    @nightyonetwothree 28 днів тому +9

    according to w3champions (1.36.1 patch) 2200+ mmr stats:
    hum 56% vs 44% ud; (~11.9% difference, so hum wins 56/44 = ~27% more games)
    ne 46.2% vs 53.8% ud; (7.6% diff, ud win ~16% more)
    orc 49.6% vs 50.4% ud; (~0.8% diff, ud win ~1.7% more games)
    also, knowing 3 Happy's accounts, we can subtract his stats from those. Then same state (but excluding Happy's wins and loses):
    hum 66.6% vs 33.4% ud; (~33.2% difference, humans win ~199.2% more games)
    ne 52.7% vs 47.3% ud; (~5.4% difference, nelves win ~11% more)
    orc 55% vs 45% ud; (~10% difference, orcs win ~22.4% more)
    It basically shows us ud (excluding Happy) have no 50%+ matchup. And only 33% vs human.
    But in defence of "ud imba whiners" this stats are only from w3champions, not including going tournaments etc. So maybe those thousands of 2200+ games are just a joke for you.

    • @tobiasbki443
      @tobiasbki443 28 днів тому +1

      it shows only noobs play ud.. ok it was a joke but I remember in 2006 showing WC3 to my friends and they were super RTS news and picked both UD and stood with it.. hehe
      Another friend who wanted to get better took Orc.. :D

    • @h1n1worm
      @h1n1worm 28 днів тому

      this is useless. coooil noooova imba..bla bla bla. just open stats for every lvl range excluding 2200(where happy lives) ...

    • @hououinkyouma1488
      @hououinkyouma1488 28 днів тому +1

      Thats one of the biggest dishonest biased crap I've ever read. Why don't you remove Lyn, Fortitude and Kaho from the stats as well?

    • @nightyonetwothree
      @nightyonetwothree 28 днів тому +1

      @@hououinkyouma1488 why dont you do it? Because it will not change anything?
      I'm planing of doing it already, check this commect section. Like, Subscribe, etc

    • @nightyonetwothree
      @nightyonetwothree 28 днів тому +4

      @@hououinkyouma1488 ok. Here i pick w3champions (1.36.1 patch) 2200+ mmr stats.
      And remove 3 highest ranked players of other races (Kaho, Sok, Focus):
      hum (Sok excluded) 56.1% vs 43.9% ud (with Happy in); (12.2% diff, so hum wins 28% more games)
      * Wow! Excluding Sok even improved average human winrate as sok usually meet happy in ladder, while others not that often do.
      ne (Kaho excluded) 45.7% vs 54.3% ud (Happy included); (8.5% difference, ud and Happy won 18.7% more)
      * ne winrates drop 1% (ud grow 1% wr, +2% difference totaly), so Kaho did a good job! Still stats are almost the same.
      orc (Focus excluded) 50.2% vs 49.8% ud (Happy included); (0.5% difference, orc win over ud 1% more)
      * orc wr rised 1% (ud drops 1%, difference stay almost the same as they switch winning role). I mean average orc stats are better than Focus (surely he meets Happy in ladder pretty often)
      And now same stats, but both Happy and those players will be excluded:
      hum (no Sok) 67.7% vs 32.3% ud (no Happy); (35.3% fidderence, humans win 209% more)
      ne (no Kaho) 52.5% vs 47.5% ud (no Happy); (5% difference, elves win 11% more)
      orc (no Focus) 56.3% vs 43.7% ud (no Happy); (12%+ difference, orcs win 29% more)
      It's almost the same numbers as before. Maybe a bit more broken in human and orc favor vs ud. Wow!
      "dishonest biased crap" turns out to be truth! Watch your words, boy!

  • @bluefov705
    @bluefov705 29 днів тому

    Lyn is insanely good.. if he could just get past Happy I would put him number1 but for now it's Happy

  • @scottymeffz5025
    @scottymeffz5025 28 днів тому +1

    Wyn vs Eer0

  • @2342anthony
    @2342anthony 29 днів тому

    Lyn 👑👑👑👑👑

  • @andreytsoy2321
    @andreytsoy2321 28 днів тому

    Lyn god

  • @user-cs2mc5kk7r
    @user-cs2mc5kk7r 28 днів тому +1

    Lyn is GOAT considering his age and that his race which is the all the time weakest race. he always finds hope under deep dark surroundings

    • @lyra797
      @lyra797 27 днів тому

      all time weakest race? you gotta be trolling right? UD didnt even win a single map for 10 years after this game launched

  • @martiniliev6885
    @martiniliev6885 29 днів тому +1

    Hmm if Remo says Lyn is "insanely" good but still he cannot take a game off of Happy what does that mean ? Happy is like many times better than him ?

    • @thehellsong
      @thehellsong 29 днів тому +3

      well you are wrong because Lyn just defeated Happy this weak and Happy played much worse than Lyn that time, also Happy has a lot of troubles with HUM while Lyn often just wipe the floor with HUM, obviously there are some weak matchups for some races, right now in general UD weaker vs HUM, ORC weaker vs UD, NE seems weaker vs UD too

    • @philippecote8571
      @philippecote8571 29 днів тому +1

      @@thehellsong Orc isn't weak vs UD, it's weak vs NE+Happy/120. UD is weak vs Orc if anything.

    • @leonnunhofer3453
      @leonnunhofer3453 29 днів тому +1

      ​​@@philippecote8571I don't think, UD is weaker vs orc. I think, this MU totally depends on heroes. F.e. it's a lot about if you have lvl 2 lich and Alchemist vs the first wyvern or lvl 3. In general, with UD it's a lot about heroes, and to hit the levels you need in time
      Edit: 1st game big fight was with DK at lvl 4.7, lich got lvl 3 right after the fight started, but Alchemist was 2.7 and died shortly after getting lvl 3. So it was 4/3/2 vs orc, with a very late lvl 3 on the Lich, and with getting 5/3/3 just a little earlier, it could have been a different outcome

    • @leonnunhofer3453
      @leonnunhofer3453 29 днів тому +6

      Lyn took games from Happy, and Lyn many times found the solution to counter the strats Happy used vs orc. Lyn is an amazing and innovative player.

    • @ihatemylifenot4887
      @ihatemylifenot4887 28 днів тому

      You know it's possible for multiple people to be "insanely" good, right?
      There's no one (with 2+ braincells) who thinks Happy isn't incredible. That's a given.

  • @stevengivens925
    @stevengivens925 28 днів тому

    Imagine losing as UD lol. Really just shows how terrible the caliber of WC3 players really are. Dead game