When 12 Seconds Changed Hockey History

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  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  3 дні тому +3

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  • @ssj4vegito581
    @ssj4vegito581 3 дні тому +160

    Seems like the bigger problem is these dinosaurs selecting these teams

    • @Avalanche8181
      @Avalanche8181 3 дні тому +2

      It wasn't a problem during Canads 25 wjc championships?

    • @gnyphq6405
      @gnyphq6405 3 дні тому

      Not to say you're wrong and I really don't know the answer to this question: Does Parekh have an attitude problem? If I'm picking a team that is comprised of L1 forwards and D's (many with letters) I would omit poison from my locker room. There 's little room for an overly talented asshole.
      edit - also (again, I barely know this kid) but if his defensive game is suspect, he could mauled against the States (and other larger teams)

    • @jddallan1115
      @jddallan1115 20 годин тому

      Completely agree

  • @PeteCore75
    @PeteCore75 3 дні тому +136

    A lot of these decisions are political. Not inviting Misa or Yakemchuk to camp is a joke.

    • @genericusername9551
      @genericusername9551 3 дні тому +12

      It has to do with where they’re playing next year as well.
      Hockey Canada didn’t like the fact that mesa took a million to go play for Boston next year

    • @seegee9
      @seegee9 3 дні тому

      ​@@genericusername9551 why would they have a problem with that? I believe you I'm just curious what their rationale would be

    • @KoolManX-vr5ii
      @KoolManX-vr5ii 3 дні тому +1

      @@seegee9I’d think they probably want to keep misa in Canada cause he’s such a big star he’ll help grow the game

    • @seegee9
      @seegee9 3 дні тому +1

      @@KoolManX-vr5ii man I had a total brain fart and thought he was talking about the Bruin's 😂 then I realized he isn't even drafted yet. Boston U right?

    • @KoolManX-vr5ii
      @KoolManX-vr5ii 3 дні тому +1

      @@seegee9 yeah. lol

  • @patheticdawg
    @patheticdawg 3 дні тому +66

    They are building teams that are built to last for an entire season, when they are just playing a few games. If you can have four first lines, you take it

  • @angermanagementstudios
    @angermanagementstudios 3 дні тому +44

    Parekh and Yak not getting an invite is utter madness.

  • @tubingforever
    @tubingforever 3 дні тому +37

    Should be criminal to not have Misa in there!

  • @45crisess
    @45crisess 3 дні тому +41

    My only problem is, how do you not even invite misa to camp?

    • @seegee9
      @seegee9 3 дні тому +10

      Has to be something behind the scenes no? Hockey Canada is a pretty crooked organization

  • @tradertrav6414
    @tradertrav6414 3 дні тому +17

    I had a buddy play in the tournament a few years back. Says that the decisions from line construction to player selection is super political and will usually favour players that have coaches from that same league. For example WHL coaches selecting more WHL players instead of the best players.

    • @heywoodjablomi8445
      @heywoodjablomi8445 3 дні тому +1

      Sounds like sour grapes from a lesser player.

    • @Legoface660
      @Legoface660 3 дні тому +5

      @@heywoodjablomi8445 If he actually made the team he must've been very good considering all the good players who DIDN'T make the team

    • @lawoftheuniverse8089
      @lawoftheuniverse8089 2 дні тому +1

      Junior Hockey in Canada is very very Flawed...I have heard much of the same thing of bad Coaching and Hazing etc and look at the endless allegations of awful behaviour with them...I just don't have much Faith in the Canadian Junior Hockey Management Culture...

    • @Legoface660
      @Legoface660 2 дні тому

      @@lawoftheuniverse8089 yeah it needs fixing

  • @shakersword
    @shakersword 3 дні тому +24

    No Misa and Parekh is just silly they deserve to be there. yes both will be eligble next yr but come on Parekh is literally one of the top d prospects in the world and Misa is just insane...

    • @itaintobeezy
      @itaintobeezy 3 дні тому +3

      UA-cam commenter knows best lmao

    • @brendobaggins
      @brendobaggins 3 дні тому +1

      No yakemchuk either🫣

    • @shakersword
      @shakersword 3 дні тому

      @@itaintobeezy You spelled ''most insiders and hockey commentators know best'' wrong. It is a VERY common opinion i did not just pick it out of a hat...

    • @shakersword
      @shakersword 3 дні тому

      @@brendobaggins I forgot about Him i agree!

    • @itaintobeezy
      @itaintobeezy 3 дні тому

      @@shakersword yea there’s a reason they’re self proclaimed “insiders” and UA-cam commentators and not actually working in the nhl hahaha

  • @tmlms1313
    @tmlms1313 3 дні тому +8

    Hockey Canada's philosophy isn't about chemistry or anything they like to take 19 year olds to a under 20 tournament. It's always been that way, it's nothing new. it takes very special players to get before their draft. That's why Gavin Mckenna is so rare. You can count on 1 hand the number of Draft minus 1 players that have been on Team Canada. Even Draft year like Misa are pretty rare...... Anyone who pays any attention to Junior hockey knew that last year was a big down year, it was the class that lost their Rookie CHL season to Covid. Massive setback in player development.

    • @SirJaymesDAudelée
      @SirJaymesDAudelée 2 дні тому

      Good point. They say it’s a 19 year olds tournament all the time.

  • @roybatty2680
    @roybatty2680 3 дні тому +5

    Jeremy Roenick had 566 NHL goals (Reg season & playoffs) and almost 25% were game winners.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  3 дні тому +1

      Legend

    • @heywoodjablomi8445
      @heywoodjablomi8445 3 дні тому

      And he was/is a massive asshole!

    • @thefinaldispatch
      @thefinaldispatch 3 дні тому +1

      That is an insane statistic

    • @jerryrick4685
      @jerryrick4685 3 дні тому

      Great stat. Anither good one is if you took away all Gretzky's goals (all time leader in goals) hed still be the all time leader in NHL points on assists alone

  • @JesusFriedChrist
    @JesusFriedChrist 3 дні тому +2

    I can’t wait to see Parekh playing for us in Calgary! The future of the Flames is bright! Conny absolutely won the 2024 draft.

  • @electrohouselover07
    @electrohouselover07 3 дні тому +6

    If Canada doesn't win this year I'll be shocked. They are stacked !

  • @AndrewAnderson-bx8uf
    @AndrewAnderson-bx8uf 3 дні тому +1

    This might sound really simplistic, but my solution would be to make sure your "Superstar" players can play on both sides of the puck. That way they are still useful and can contribute with less ice time.
    If you put Crosby on the 4th line for 10 minutes of ice time, he can still help his team, or at the very least he doesnt hurt them. At least thats been the typical approach a long time now with Team Canada

  • @letsssgooo4618
    @letsssgooo4618 3 дні тому +3

    It’s weird cause it it’s not like they didn’t take any young studs. They took a couple but left a couple off. Then left some of the older guys off. It’s weird. You’d think they wanted to go old but still cut some of the better older guys

  • @SirJaymesDAudelée
    @SirJaymesDAudelée 2 дні тому

    People tend to forget that each year Canada usually has at least a couple of players that are age eligible to partake in the tournament but whose respective NHL clubs will not release them. Last year Bedard could have played in the tournament again. So just ponder that, because it means that for some years-many of them-Canada’s team does not contain its potentially top scoring U20 players.
    It also points to the fact that - rather than view Canada as slipping in Hockey prowess - our guys are actually good to the point they wind up playing in the NHL at age 19, and therefore cannot take part in that years tournament.

  • @Jer-b3p
    @Jer-b3p 2 дні тому +2

    But you know what else is massive

  • @stephentyler4352
    @stephentyler4352 3 дні тому

    Well done, Rob! You deliver amazing hockey content consistently. People know your name all over the globe. I’d say that’s a remarkable accomplishment given that you missed out on your pro hockey career. The backup plan worked out quite well.
    Thanks for your authenticity bro. 🤘🏽

  • @mitchellgreene867
    @mitchellgreene867 День тому

    Nailed it again, Rob! I just wish they took Parekh… Kinda mind blowing 🤦‍♂️🤯

  • @tmlms1313
    @tmlms1313 3 дні тому +1

    Game Winning Goals is a terrible stat to use to prove anything. Do you even know how it works? Lets say a player scores the goal to make it 5-0, then his team falls apart and only wins 5-4. The guy who scored the 5-0 goal gets the GWG, real clutch lol. Might have been a 4th liner because the coach was resting his stars.
    Another scenario. Player scores a goal to break a 1-1 tie with 2 minutes left in the game, huge clutch goal. Other team pulls their goalie and someone adds the empty netter. The losing team still pulls their goalie and gets one back making a 3-2 final. Who gets the GWG? The guy who scored the empty netter.
    2023-24, Matthews had 6 hat tricks. and 10 2-goal games....... You can't score more than 1 GWG per game is that his fault? He finished the year with 8 GWG, tied for 11th in the NHL...... Even if he scored 69 goals in 69 different games the Leafs aren't going to win 69 games. The more you goals you score the less likely you are to get a GWG. Your percentage goes down. It's a completely flawed stat.

  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  3 дні тому +2

    Who is your MVP prediction? Call it now

  • @subbydagwoods
    @subbydagwoods 3 дні тому

    As usual. Great info and great video. Enjoy the WJC Rob!

  • @keistonballantyne3978
    @keistonballantyne3978 2 дні тому

    If a 17 year old Juraj Slafkovsky does not play at the Beijing Olympics, he doesn’t get selected 1st overall.

  • @jonmendelson1104
    @jonmendelson1104 3 дні тому

    I have to question the methodology of clutchness having a relationship to GWG. If you score to make it 5-0 then the other team scores four goals to make it 5-4, was your goal a clutch goal or did it just happen to be the GWG? How about if you score two minutes into a game to make it 1-0, then your goalie gets the shutout?
    I know it's a much more difficult stat to look up, but I'd use something like goals that change the lead (tie/take the lead) in the last few minutes/overtime.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  3 дні тому

      That’s fair. But keep in mind that in most cases from the prior MVP sample. We’re talking 500-1000+ games. If they are showing a higher percentage of GWG it’s speaks volume to me

    • @jonmendelson1104
      @jonmendelson1104 3 дні тому

      @@RobTalksHockey For sure. This is less a comment about you using it and more a complaint about the value people give to GWG in general.

  • @AlyxiSistahTweaky25
    @AlyxiSistahTweaky25 3 дні тому

    GWG is a tough stat to use for comparisons. How much does team quality affect it? If you are a top goal scorer on a bad team, then there is a better chance that the rare win will result in a GWG for you. But you will also score in more losing efforts. Flip side, if you are a good goal scorer on a top team, you have more wins to fish for GWGs, but those game winners will be spread among more scorers. Hard to say if you should or shouldn't cancel out certain players because they are on crap NHL teams.
    Not to mention using scoring rates from a tournament that has at most 7-8? games per team. Sample size.
    Still, very interesting vid.

  • @FlamesEnjoyer
    @FlamesEnjoyer 2 дні тому

    The thing with parekh and misa is they were both big parts of saginaw winning the memorial cup. Theyve shown up in big games

  • @Schm1dtstorm
    @Schm1dtstorm 3 дні тому +1

    No Riley Heidt is a joke, but the Cougars need him too so I'll only complain a little bit.

  • @Jadhamdan1
    @Jadhamdan1 2 дні тому +1

    Ma…Massive you say?

  • @longballist
    @longballist 3 дні тому +1

    Only Team Canada could screw a guy in his draft pick year! The fans want to see the best players. The best players can play with anybody and help improve everybody on the ice. Pick better coaches!!!

  • @mikemurphy8996
    @mikemurphy8996 3 дні тому

    Not sure what Dave Cameron is doing. Cutting some of the defenceman they didn’t take reminds me of the year Cale Makar was the 7th D-Man on his world junior team. I remember Ray Ferraro saying during one of the games that they need to put him on the ice more because every time he’s out there Canada gets a scoring chance. Looks like they have more of a grinding hard working team that might struggle to score in the medal round. The one thing to remember though is that there is no Russia and team USA has no elite players this year. Canada should win pretty easy since they are also playing at home.

  • @CdnElJefe
    @CdnElJefe 3 дні тому

    Do you think that one of the differences between teams over that last 10 years and teams of the 90’s and early 2000’s is that today’s players are less willing to accept non prominent roles like they used to? So now they have to take more role players instead of best available to not have to deal with the egos?

  • @CM-ef2hd
    @CM-ef2hd 3 дні тому +2

    Parekh is a defensive liability. Hes all offense and takes stupid penalties.

    • @JesusFriedChrist
      @JesusFriedChrist 3 дні тому +2

      He’ll get better defensively by the time he’s playing for the Flames.

    • @Greg1_c
      @Greg1_c 2 дні тому

      ​@JesusFriedChrist he play on the wings or center

  • @vegetawithabinky
    @vegetawithabinky 3 дні тому

    Love the background golden eye music

  • @olivierdroletst-cyr9353
    @olivierdroletst-cyr9353 3 дні тому

    MOM ROB UPLOADED AGAIN!!!

  • @jbj7599
    @jbj7599 3 дні тому

    Sounds like Team Canada(junior) has the US Mens Basketball team problem. Find players who can play together, instead of just the best.

  • @horseygirl03
    @horseygirl03 3 дні тому

    european teams have succeeded due to chemistry the past 10 years so i think Canada might be onto something

  • @Gojets37
    @Gojets37 3 дні тому +2

    Barkey not getting picked and everbody else like misa Sennecka thsi shit gotta be rigged

  • @holofech9744
    @holofech9744 3 дні тому

    16.6% is 1 out of every 6 goals. When you consider an average game is around 6ish goals, that doesnt really seem all too impressive. At least compare it to some average players to see if that shows any difference

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  3 дні тому +5

      6 goals including both teams. The team Average is 3.03 goals

  • @BelgotLeons
    @BelgotLeons 3 дні тому

    Also i dont feel like its canada is loosing their edge but the rest of the world have all grown leaps and bounds in the last 2 decades its become alot more poppular and competitive

  • @justinparker816
    @justinparker816 День тому

    16.67% of all goals are game winning goals that means nothing at all

  • @Turnstables
    @Turnstables 2 дні тому

    There’s also a lot of politics that go with this tournament. Always has been always will be. Guys that shouldn’t be on end up on. Or take into account the four nations roster and how there was reporting that guys didn’t get chosen simply because they chose not to play in the world championships after losing in the playoffs before

  • @RylanMiller-g5d
    @RylanMiller-g5d 3 дні тому

    Best rob quote, “and after looking at the numbers I would discover something truly shocking”

  • @blakehelgoth5247
    @blakehelgoth5247 3 дні тому

    Does Gretzy teach you how to gamble on your team?

  • @HawksFan.
    @HawksFan. 3 дні тому

    Conner Bedard was gonna play in the all star but he was injured

  • @liamsoutherland_21
    @liamsoutherland_21 3 дні тому +1

    massive?

  • @mikemurphy8996
    @mikemurphy8996 3 дні тому

    I guess my Dennis Godla rookie card won’t be worth anything after all. 😉

  • @mcakey1648
    @mcakey1648 3 дні тому

    I don’t get it.

  • @peterlue9274
    @peterlue9274 3 дні тому

    People should be fired for Zayne Parekh not being on the team. FOR REAL. They should never manage another national team again.

  • @RocketRon7779
    @RocketRon7779 3 дні тому

    We don't have the goaltending this year. I'm not certain any of this will matter but point taken that Canada couldn't afford any blips anywhere else this year and Miso and Yak not making is suspect.

    • @jonmendelson1104
      @jonmendelson1104 3 дні тому

      I disagree with you on the goaltending. You have two goalies who are projected to go in the first round or early in the second round.

  • @skateAlot
    @skateAlot 3 дні тому +1

    Hockey Psychology

  • @gordoncheswick4169
    @gordoncheswick4169 2 дні тому

    Miss not on this team! He’ll probably be #1 NHL draft pick! End of discussion.

  • @DeanTheEmperor562
    @DeanTheEmperor562 3 дні тому

    commentator at the start sounds like Glenn Quagmire.

  • @royconestoga7326
    @royconestoga7326 День тому

    As an American, go Team Canada! The US sucks at everything.

  • @ealexander71
    @ealexander71 3 дні тому

    Was Lekkerimaki mvp last year?

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  3 дні тому +1

      Yep! I didn’t include him because he only has a 6 game samples size

    • @ealexander71
      @ealexander71 3 дні тому

      @ wonder if he eventually lives up to this stat. Let’s hope

  • @BigBakes16
    @BigBakes16 3 дні тому +1

    Massive?

    • @Zer0-14
      @Zer0-14 3 дні тому +1

      LOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  • @SmithSens16
    @SmithSens16 18 годин тому

    This is where overthinking comes in, you'd have to be really stupid to cut 2 ovechkins in favour or 2 role players lol 4 oveckins on any time will find a way to score

  • @jerryrick4685
    @jerryrick4685 3 дні тому

    No hage either

  • @Benadyl
    @Benadyl 3 дні тому

    invaluable

  • @Buffalosabskis
    @Buffalosabskis 3 дні тому

    Canada always roots so hard against the US when no-one outside of a few states and cities follows this tournament. I remember always talking with Canadian fans when Buffalo has hosted it. It's like you guys have 12 mil people in the Toronto area. Buffalo has 1 mil in the entire surroundings and we are not getting people flying in from California the way Canadians travel the world for this. I grew up watching this and love the recent success the US has had compared to the past. US winning this a few times in the past decade and a half has been my championship since I am a Sabres fan.

    • @jonmendelson1104
      @jonmendelson1104 3 дні тому

      Hey, I flew in from California to go to the summer edition of the WJC in Edmonton in 2022.

    • @Buffalosabskis
      @Buffalosabskis 3 дні тому

      @jonmendelson1104 but would you fly from home cross country like people coming to WJ from Edmonton and BC etc?

    • @jonmendelson1104
      @jonmendelson1104 3 дні тому

      ​@@Buffalosabskis Once I'm flying, sitting on my butt doing nothing for a couple of extra hours makes no difference.
      The only minor inconvenience is I probably need to buy some clothes if I'm going to a non-summer edition. My NHL jerseys are the closest thing to sweatshirts I've worn in a few years, and I only wear pants when I'm at a formal event (otherwise I wear shorts).
      I am planning on going to go to the 2026 edition in Minnesota.

    • @Dailybuzzn
      @Dailybuzzn 3 дні тому

      I would argue that just as many Americans play hockey compared to Canadians if not more

    • @Buffalosabskis
      @Buffalosabskis 3 дні тому

      @@Dailybuzzn Well with 330 million people compared to 30 that is bound to happen. It still is top heavy the more North you go though. In Buffalo more people play hockey growing up than any other sport

  • @Buckwilder-ws1hq
    @Buckwilder-ws1hq День тому

    The amount of people that dont watch Parekh play is laughable in comment sections about this team selection. Crying he didn't make the team just tells people who know what there talking about not to take you seriously as your giving away that you didn't watch a single second of him in the selection camp games. Was easily the worst defenseman in camp with every defensive concern showing constantly, losing/giving away the puck in his own end no defensive intensity or aggressiveness. Causing and being on for multiple goals against. These same people look up a guy on elite prospects and see draft pick and goals and assists and literally nothing else and they say team canada scouts dont know what there talking about lol.

    • @yashwankalainesan4698
      @yashwankalainesan4698 22 години тому +1

      I agree with that. I think people are so caught up with points and assists and not overall play. Seems to be true in a lot of sports. In your opinion, what stats should people pay attention to when looking at defensemen.

  • @frankdeboer1347
    @frankdeboer1347 3 дні тому

    So what is the massive problem for team Canada?

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  3 дні тому +1

      That even though they still dominate the prospect pools, their chemistry/goalie issues have single handedly loss them tournaments

  • @letsssgooo4618
    @letsssgooo4618 3 дні тому

    US should be down in the future. Our hockey numbers are wayyy down. I dunno about the other countries but Canada should be good

  • @KanadianGOOSE8
    @KanadianGOOSE8 3 дні тому +1

    Canada is gonna win gold for sure they are stacked

    • @Byepolarchaos
      @Byepolarchaos 3 дні тому +1

      And that’s what’s wrong with Canada there’s nothing guaranteed in Canada. They don’t even scout the other teams well.

    • @MetalCharlo
      @MetalCharlo 3 дні тому

      @@Byepolarchaos literally wtf are you talking about lmao

  • @TAS-_
    @TAS-_ День тому

    Yk what else is massive.

  • @lapcevichgage
    @lapcevichgage 3 дні тому

    9:13 fuckin’ All Star

  • @MrHunterbg
    @MrHunterbg 3 дні тому

    Parekh is not good defensively. Watched him a lot and was never impressed with that aspect of his game. Really good puck handler, but I think he’s highly overrated. Takes careless penalties often as well.

  • @matthewsecord7641
    @matthewsecord7641 3 дні тому

    Canada Cup.

  • @matthewsecord7641
    @matthewsecord7641 3 дні тому

    Russia has a weak turnout.

  • @brandondewar2643
    @brandondewar2643 2 дні тому

    Parekh has MASSIVE character issues . You have to watch him a few times to see it. He is ALWAYS laying on the ice, massive diver. All the skill in the world but has this very negative side to his game . He has been known to take cheap shots here and there. Watch one Saginaw spirit game , I guarantee he lays on the ice 2-3 times trying to get a penalty and then cross checks someone in the forehead lol

    • @brandondewar2643
      @brandondewar2643 2 дні тому

      Team Canada doesn’t want him I guarantee because of this exact issue. He’s not a leader and doesn’t belong on Canada for a reason

  • @Pallw-j8v
    @Pallw-j8v 3 дні тому

    Under 10 minutes

  • @RichardConstantin-j2u
    @RichardConstantin-j2u 3 дні тому +1

    Gretzky was a Canadian icon right until he decided the Russians should not be able to play in the world juniors because of their countries politics.Sports should not be controlled by politics Wayne!!Please dont teach your idiacy to these young players!!!!!!!!!!!!Now youve just become a political pawn..Shame on you!!

    • @Sid-gu5qk
      @Sid-gu5qk 3 дні тому

      Wrong, it's the same reason no Russian team in any sport is allowed in any tournament, including the Olympics. It's because cheating is so culturally acceptable to them that no matter how many times they were penalized for it they can't stop themselves from trying to get away with cheating over and over again. Cheating and lacking respect for fair play and their fellow athletes is why they don't deserve to participate.

    • @JesusFriedChrist
      @JesusFriedChrist 3 дні тому

      Agreed.

    • @Sid-gu5qk
      @Sid-gu5qk 3 дні тому

      @@RichardConstantin-j2u they're not even allowed in the Olympics, or any other tournament, because cheating is culturally acceptable in Russia.

  • @letsssgooo4618
    @letsssgooo4618 3 дні тому

    Well other than wrestling hockey is all Russia has

  • @emilorava
    @emilorava 3 дні тому

    First

  • @shmooveyea
    @shmooveyea 3 дні тому

    No one cares about world juniors lmao

    • @irogen2
      @irogen2 3 дні тому +1

      You cared enough to click on a video about ..... The world juniors

    • @Sid-gu5qk
      @Sid-gu5qk 3 дні тому +1

      Try watching a game dude, they fill arenas and in Canada at least it's a ratings boom for television. So, you're wrong. 😮

    • @shmooveyea
      @shmooveyea 3 дні тому

      @@Sid-gu5qk youre mad

    • @JesusFriedChrist
      @JesusFriedChrist 3 дні тому +1

      The tens of millions of people watching across the world says otherwise.

    • @Legoface660
      @Legoface660 3 дні тому

      I think that's just you

  • @BloodandSoilNS
    @BloodandSoilNS День тому

    This tournaments never felt the same without Russia. Ffs! Let the kids play.

  • @heywoodjablomi8445
    @heywoodjablomi8445 3 дні тому

    All these comments from armchair GMs are FCKNG hilarious. Not has any pertinent information on any of these players. Homers with opinions is all and as mentioned, is truly funny to read.