I am very happy to have more English content of and about the Japanese meta as I think it’s develops entirely differently than the English meta. Very fascinating to see the decks actually be worked on and figured out
If this is accurate it's nice to see black finally out the top 5, the new Luffy lists I've seen don't seem to operate like a normal hard removal black deck Which is nice. Only downside for me is my locals has SOOOO many doffy players already and I can't be bothered seeing more
With the buggy take - there’s that 7c buggy promo that locks down doffy big time. Unless y’all not counting that card in yet. I think that card would be relevant into Lucci Zoro, and doffy most of all which I’m sure it’ll be teched in since doffy is the most represented deck. 7c buggy promo locks down 4c and 3c from attacking.
I’m very new to this TCG coming from magic, and teach speaks to me and I didn’t think there would be a leader that equates to stax. Idk if you know anything about mtg but teach’s anti on play is what magic calls stax and I’m a big enjoyer of stax control style decks. 100% gonna play teach. I need that alt art too for him it’s so goofy I love it
Sorry that category was a bit messy, but rogue decks were generally underexplored. They have potential but it's hard to gauge where they would be. Sanji definitely has a strong effect but the support isn't quite there yet, Dragon seems good but we can't really tell yet, etc
I have a very different results in the Luffy Shanks matchup. Ive never lost to a RP Luffy with Shanks. Most of your bodies swing over him and his 6k swings become normal swings. Ive played a lot on the sim and with friends. Also board-spam Pluffy is very oppressive, especially with people now running Mr. 2 and 9c Linlin making the leader effect turbo more.
Are folks in JP meta considering 4c Jinbe to be a problem now? Seems along with Doffy leader ability, it provides a ton of value and if you have 2 or 3, your opponent can't keep up.
I think the RP Luffy list I uploaded is really solid. Felt like I found like 46/50 cards right list very fast (for now) so that might also be why I rate him so high! I also played BY luffy for all of op08, so I'm glad we're in the same boat.
Ahhh Vivi is complicated because I think that the way that people were playing her == as a control deck that has a massive hand and spams high costs, is harder now in this meta since purple does that but 1 turn faster, and there's a ton of resources. Maybe there is another version of Vivi because her leader ability allows for her to have different builds. I saw 1 Vivi result this set, but if i see more I'll analyze it
That deck is too recent for me to rate it, but the top players from eu and na I talked with about that deck said that it can be played around. I'll test the deck
I agree with most of the list except with Belo, but i am extremely biased lol, I mained her in Op05 and did farily well against Zakazuki, had to stop playing her because of RP Law because it's literally unwinnable and a lot of people were playing RP Law at my locals. But now she can go wide and hit like a truck without having to stay low on hand ❤ But hey, if she doesn't do that well, at least is nice to see less Black decks toping.
My friend is a huge fan of Belo Betty as well back in op05, so I am just trusting his opinion on this matter. The deck is very interesting with the new buffs and they help with her resources for sure. It's purely that Doflamingo is incredibly strong right now that she feels comparatively weaker. Not that she is actually a bad leader
Genuinely surprised to see RP Uta rated so high, coming from an RP Uta player, it's so interesting seeing praise for RP Uta when she's been mediocre or really bad since her release. I've nearly won locals with a 95% film package on her but like you've guys said her ability is such a stiff leader ability
@@ikailakai Strangely enough, I actually tried it out in the sim with some of the new cards specifically just adding in the 10C rush shanks. It feels a lot more consistent and actually gives me a reason to ramp if I've got him in my hand. 10C removal shanks, you play reactively to the opponent whereas 10C Rush shanks allows you to be really aggressive.
@@diegotello3078 1xOP06-001 3xOP02-004 4xOP06-006 3xOP06-007 4xOP06-009 4xOP06-010 4xOP07-010 2xOP09-004 4xP-019 3xOP06-071 3xST04-005 3xST05-002 3xST05-004 4xST05-006 4xST05-014 2xOP06-019 This decklist is very experimental. ESPECIALLY with the starter pack 5C Gild. It's seen some success in locals. I need to test around with the red hair pirates to see if it improves anything but 10C Rush shanks is a definitely must need.
No Gecko Moria mention? I was thinking of maybe playing him for my first deck... 😅 I really like the playstyle, is he not played anymore? Might be good to know before I spend like 80 euro's on cards hahaha
definitely play what you enjoy playing! The issue with decks like Moria now is that he plays similar to Doflamingo. And with Doflamingo so strong, it's hard to want to play Moria. But just like Doflamingo, what he does is strong, so if you like the playstyle, it's a fun deck to play. Though I will be honest that I moved away from Moria to play Doflamingo because it felt more fun to play.
Its wild that I made an RP Uta deck weeks ago just for fun and now she might have some viability. What are the thoughts on Kalgara for op9. Im tested him for 08 and 8.5 and he seems tier 2 or low end 1.5.
Kalgara would probably fall into the category or 'worse doflamingo' currently, but as a deck to just have fun with he's great, and definitely not bad. He's one of the better aggro decks.
Showing tier list at the start was some high level reverse psychology and I ended up watching it all 😂 great insight and commentary!! Wanted to ask, when you talk about matchups like "this deck just loses to doffy" is this accurate or over-exaterated? Quite new to OP and more used to MTG where matchups are always winnable / nuanced but the absent of a sideboard in OP makes me think this isnt the case for this tcg
When I say losing i generally mean it's like 3:7 or 4:6, just below 5:5. It's still winnable but it might come down to your opponent's skill level and draws with some of these trickier decks. it's absolutely not impossible by any means, I just feel like it's important to have a 5:5+ matchups vs Doflamingo for how prominent he's starting to be
@@ikailakai Absolutly makes sense, just wanted to make sure that the way OP works doesn't actually have mu you just can not physically win period! Thank you for the insight!
I agree with BP luffy beating doffy because luffy taro and and the 3 cost zoro that ramps On even curve turn 2 you basically drop two 5 cost and ramp to 7 next turn slap that luffy with 5 black sanji and you win lmaoo
hiya, i'm back here from calling you a weeb to being a subscriber. love your videos and the way you explain things is always descriptive and clear! one thing that's very interesting from this tier list is Dragon, will you make a video of a Dragon deck with OP09 support?
Great video but only since you mentioned it being potentially audio only, it might be a good idea to try not to say stuff like ‘belongs about here’ without mentioning where ‘here’ is.
Vega punk lose to pluffy to nami to buggy lose to reju to belo beti like every aggro deck why so high And bp luffy wins against doffy against shanks also Teach wins against all late game decks like bonny I think pluffy has no bad matchup actually he is so much faster denn rp luffy he can make him so much presure I watched so manny japanese player and there tierlist and also why we are not seeing that many doffi But i have ti agree with u doffi is the best deck right now
Because Vegapunk wins against Nami, Buggy, Belo Betty. but yes he does lose to Pluffy. Haven't tested Reiju mu. Do you have a PB Luffy list? because I think it's possible I just havn't found a good list
@@ikailakai i played him with 8c gecko and black sanji who pops 5c maybe im wrong and i played not against good players But i think the meta will change fast ithink right now top 5 decks will be in 09 doffi shanks pluffy rySabo maybe blackbeard thats just my opinion not
Play Vegapunk my friend. In all seriousness, I don't think Rebecca is all that great right now even though people have been talking about it here in Japan. Doflamingo, and the ramp decks feel hard to fight.
Perona's consistency is a bit low, but the deck power itself is quite high. Definitely still a deck, just hard to tierlist everyone single one that exists
Onigashima makes things a little awkward, but he has 2 searchers now so he's not bad. If he can survive until 10kaido, then he's very good of course. The deck is actually probably solid if he has any survivability, so let me actually test that deck. thank you.
I am very happy to have more English content of and about the Japanese meta as I think it’s develops entirely differently than the English meta. Very fascinating to see the decks actually be worked on and figured out
Yea the meta always does this in Japan and people figure out lists and what's actually strong!
Honesty the intro got me, so I watched the whole video lol, btw great video, keep up the good work!!!
I got one! thank you man
Same actually
Always gotta watch it through the end 🫡
My hero. I edited this down from like 1.5 hours of yapping and it took me 6+ hours so I really appreciate it
If this is accurate it's nice to see black finally out the top 5, the new Luffy lists I've seen don't seem to operate like a normal hard removal black deck Which is nice.
Only downside for me is my locals has SOOOO many doffy players already and I can't be bothered seeing more
With the buggy take - there’s that 7c buggy promo that locks down doffy big time. Unless y’all not counting that card in yet. I think that card would be relevant into Lucci Zoro, and doffy most of all which I’m sure it’ll be teched in since doffy is the most represented deck. 7c buggy promo locks down 4c and 3c from attacking.
Thank you very much for your content!
I’m very new to this TCG coming from magic, and teach speaks to me and I didn’t think there would be a leader that equates to stax. Idk if you know anything about mtg but teach’s anti on play is what magic calls stax and I’m a big enjoyer of stax control style decks. 100% gonna play teach. I need that alt art too for him it’s so goofy I love it
Great video and the whole discussion around the meta and what deck beats another is really interesting
RP Luffy main here! Glad to hear he's gonna be doing good in OP09! I'm curious to see what lists are being run in Japan!
Great video! Where is the best place to see Japanese decklists and events? Also, when you guys say Rogue, are you saying that is bad or Highroll?
Sorry that category was a bit messy, but rogue decks were generally underexplored. They have potential but it's hard to gauge where they would be. Sanji definitely has a strong effect but the support isn't quite there yet, Dragon seems good but we can't really tell yet, etc
Do you still think Black purple luffy is tier 2,5?
Been a green main since the games inception. So please tell me how Bonney can stand toe to toe with Doffy? I cannot beat blue with Bonney
What kind of setup are you running and what set are you in??
I have a very different results in the Luffy Shanks matchup. Ive never lost to a RP Luffy with Shanks. Most of your bodies swing over him and his 6k swings become normal swings. Ive played a lot on the sim and with friends. Also board-spam Pluffy is very oppressive, especially with people now running Mr. 2 and 9c Linlin making the leader effect turbo more.
Love all of your contents. Thank you
No GY Yamato 😭
Great video though, keep it up! Very excited for OP09, too bad it's still three more months until release.
keep it up my guy! already hyped for the next video
Nice video . Shanks might be T0 in Taiwan , Doffy player is very rare when official events
Crazy that I randomly seen this on Twitter like a hr go
Need a new tier list video asap❤
Great video I really enjoyed it
Keep up the awesome content.
Thank you very much
Are folks in JP meta considering 4c Jinbe to be a problem now? Seems along with Doffy leader ability, it provides a ton of value and if you have 2 or 3, your opponent can't keep up.
I have tested shanks a lot and I can say that I best every top deck pretty easily except from doffy and maybe blackbeard
I been testing ur RP luffy list and love it. Im a BY luffy main and the list feels fresh and easy to play after that haha.
What’s the list?
@@noooodIe check his last upload
I think the RP Luffy list I uploaded is really solid. Felt like I found like 46/50 cards right list very fast (for now) so that might also be why I rate him so high! I also played BY luffy for all of op08, so I'm glad we're in the same boat.
Thoughts on vivi? Great vid btw
Ahhh Vivi is complicated because I think that the way that people were playing her == as a control deck that has a massive hand and spams high costs, is harder now in this meta since purple does that but 1 turn faster, and there's a ton of resources. Maybe there is another version of Vivi because her leader ability allows for her to have different builds. I saw 1 Vivi result this set, but if i see more I'll analyze it
I picked up doffy and rp luffy back in 05, cant believe my stocks actually paid off 😭
What about ST14 Luffy? Its been getting sone traction in the west for op7.75 and op08
That deck is too recent for me to rate it, but the top players from eu and na I talked with about that deck said that it can be played around. I'll test the deck
My rp Luffy stocks bouta pay off like crazyyyy
Thoughts on Green Uta? Especially with the new starter cards?
i played her a lot but she used to be good against rp law ,rightnow your losing to dofla and bonnie so shes like tier 3 or 4
Sanji is around tier 2 in my opinion it real does have a great machup against a lot of the current meta decks
I agree with most of the list except with Belo, but i am extremely biased lol, I mained her in Op05 and did farily well against Zakazuki, had to stop playing her because of RP Law because it's literally unwinnable and a lot of people were playing RP Law at my locals.
But now she can go wide and hit like a truck without having to stay low on hand ❤
But hey, if she doesn't do that well, at least is nice to see less Black decks toping.
My friend is a huge fan of Belo Betty as well back in op05, so I am just trusting his opinion on this matter. The deck is very interesting with the new buffs and they help with her resources for sure. It's purely that Doflamingo is incredibly strong right now that she feels comparatively weaker. Not that she is actually a bad leader
Actually quite strong just feel its still too high roll to bring. Can definitely play well into RP Luffy though that deck gets folded by Betty lol
Love your Videos ❤️
Also Love your pronunciation😁😎
Thoughts on red yellow sabo? Been seeing it on my feed
I've been seeing it too. I'll test it out, but in my head the deck doesn't seem like all it's hyped up to be due to consistency with 2c and 5c Ace
@@ikailakai yea lol. I dont get it either but some are hyping it up.
Genuinely surprised to see RP Uta rated so high, coming from an RP Uta player, it's so interesting seeing praise for RP Uta when she's been mediocre or really bad since her release. I've nearly won locals with a 95% film package on her but like you've guys said her ability is such a stiff leader ability
Do you have uta deck list? Pls
That's sick actually. But yea, the new cards do weirdly synergize with her, so I guess she has a chance. Need to see my friend's vision more.
@@ikailakai Strangely enough, I actually tried it out in the sim with some of the new cards specifically just adding in the 10C rush shanks. It feels a lot more consistent and actually gives me a reason to ramp if I've got him in my hand. 10C removal shanks, you play reactively to the opponent whereas 10C Rush shanks allows you to be really aggressive.
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This decklist is very experimental. ESPECIALLY with the starter pack 5C Gild. It's seen some success in locals. I need to test around with the red hair pirates to see if it improves anything but 10C Rush shanks is a definitely must need.
@@SilencePandaa Yea this is really strong!
What’s a good BB deck list?
No Gecko Moria mention? I was thinking of maybe playing him for my first deck... 😅 I really like the playstyle, is he not played anymore? Might be good to know before I spend like 80 euro's on cards hahaha
Nooo he is still really good just play waht u want if u know how to play him u will win a lot of games in ur locals
definitely play what you enjoy playing! The issue with decks like Moria now is that he plays similar to Doflamingo. And with Doflamingo so strong, it's hard to want to play Moria. But just like Doflamingo, what he does is strong, so if you like the playstyle, it's a fun deck to play. Though I will be honest that I moved away from Moria to play Doflamingo because it felt more fun to play.
Ok sounds good thanks! I'll try Doflamingo before buying anything :)
T1 for me are Shanks, Dofla and BB. Bonney & Vegapunk should not be up there but everyone have their own tierlist.
Its wild that I made an RP Uta deck weeks ago just for fun and now she might have some viability. What are the thoughts on Kalgara for op9. Im tested him for 08 and 8.5 and he seems tier 2 or low end 1.5.
Kalgara would probably fall into the category or 'worse doflamingo' currently, but as a deck to just have fun with he's great, and definitely not bad. He's one of the better aggro decks.
nice tier list! I was wondering if you could do a tier list on it tho?
what
agreed, this was a fun tier list, but he should have done a tier list on it
I've been having fun with a straw hats reiju build
Showing tier list at the start was some high level reverse psychology and I ended up watching it all 😂 great insight and commentary!!
Wanted to ask, when you talk about matchups like "this deck just loses to doffy" is this accurate or over-exaterated?
Quite new to OP and more used to MTG where matchups are always winnable / nuanced but the absent of a sideboard in OP makes me think this isnt the case for this tcg
When I say losing i generally mean it's like 3:7 or 4:6, just below 5:5. It's still winnable but it might come down to your opponent's skill level and draws with some of these trickier decks. it's absolutely not impossible by any means, I just feel like it's important to have a 5:5+ matchups vs Doflamingo for how prominent he's starting to be
@@ikailakai Absolutly makes sense, just wanted to make sure that the way OP works doesn't actually have mu you just can not physically win period! Thank you for the insight!
Im new and was thinking of building red sanji, why no discussion?
I think actually once there are strong [on attack] effects in red, he can be good. But there aren't many yet so he is difficult to make work
And Smoker?
Nice explanation 😮
Belo Betty can dumpster red purple luffy pretty hard so you I can see a few rogue Betty's making it in.
Oh for sure! I'll definitely take a closer look at that deck in due time
I want to see that Dragon list
So I can bring my Foxy deck and bodyslam Doffy and Reiju. Got it 😂
need another Vegapunk video!
Personally think pluffy is better than what you credited it but tier lists are mainly opinionated so no craziness in your take.
I agree with BP luffy beating doffy because luffy taro and and the 3 cost zoro that ramps
On even curve turn 2 you basically drop two 5 cost and ramp to 7 next turn slap that luffy with 5 black sanji and you win lmaoo
Bonney goes around even against Doffy? What? lol the blue match up is horrible for Bonney.
hiya, i'm back here from calling you a weeb to being a subscriber. love your videos and the way you explain things is always descriptive and clear!
one thing that's very interesting from this tier list is Dragon, will you make a video of a Dragon deck with OP09 support?
I loved your comment before thank you mugen. I will talk to my friend and we'll test Dragon to see what it can do.
Good video!!!
everyone sleeping on smoker...
The audacity my Boi marco tier3
Is the vegapunk list same as before?
Also most. I have the new 6 cost Robin in place of Brook and Flampe instead of Franky and it's good. Robin is pretty great.
@@ikailakai thanks. I'll give it a try
@@ikailakai have you just replaced the 1c search event with dereshi? Or how all that fit in the list ?
Shanks is absolutley Tier 1.
Great video but only since you mentioned it being potentially audio only, it might be a good idea to try not to say stuff like ‘belongs about here’ without mentioning where ‘here’ is.
this is a great point, thank you. I'll do that next time!
I legit went to skip to the end and heard the "wait wait wait" and didn't
no pudding?
No pudding at all basically. It feels like she gets run over very easily by a lot of the meta at the moment.
I... is that Gavin lmao?
Imo RP luffy is too highroll to be S tier, the deck brick the shit out of players sometimes, to me is A tier at best
On the foxy can beat doffy and is better than reiju I'd say it's worth adding that foxy also slams reiju lmao
Where's PY Pudding? Haha
Enel > vegapunk
Boa will always be queen
Vega punk lose to pluffy to nami to buggy lose to reju to belo beti like every aggro deck why so high
And bp luffy wins against doffy against shanks also
Teach wins against all late game decks like bonny
I think pluffy has no bad matchup actually he is so much faster denn rp luffy he can make him so much presure
I watched so manny japanese player and there tierlist and also why we are not seeing that many doffi
But i have ti agree with u doffi is the best deck right now
Because Vegapunk wins against Nami, Buggy, Belo Betty. but yes he does lose to Pluffy. Haven't tested Reiju mu.
Do you have a PB Luffy list? because I think it's possible I just havn't found a good list
@@ikailakai i played him with 8c gecko and black sanji who pops 5c maybe im wrong and i played not against good players
But i think the meta will change fast ithink right now top 5 decks will be in 09 doffi shanks pluffy rySabo maybe blackbeard thats just my opinion not
Rebecca? modCheck
Play Vegapunk my friend.
In all seriousness, I don't think Rebecca is all that great right now even though people have been talking about it here in Japan. Doflamingo, and the ramp decks feel hard to fight.
rp kid is 5 life and can swing 7 for free
no perona
Perona's consistency is a bit low, but the deck power itself is quite high. Definitely still a deck, just hard to tierlist everyone single one that exists
@@ikailakai makes sense just sad to see her fall off again. looking forward to your perona content in the future
I just beat all your top tier leader using zoro animal
Thoughts on Purple Kaido?
Onigashima makes things a little awkward, but he has 2 searchers now so he's not bad. If he can survive until 10kaido, then he's very good of course. The deck is actually probably solid if he has any survivability, so let me actually test that deck. thank you.
What’s a good BB deck list?