I have been listening to these stories on UA-cam for a while now. Turns out it can be interesting. I started to listen to some of the Live ATC archived HNL feeds, too, so I wondered if this one would appear, as I have noticed that HNL incidents are not frequently covered. However, there is a second part to this, which is challenging to find, so I could see how it got overlooked; if you listen to the original Live ATC feeds real closely, ARFF does come back on looking for them. You can hear more talk of the issues with the ground frequency; however, you must grab the following parts of the ground feeds,18-19z feeds, as they await the tug. It turns out they did have a leak issue. It seems it made a small mess on taxiway A. Also, it might have helped to have a clock on these things. People seem to forget this is sped up/condescending/trimmed. Listening to the Live ATC feeds, it is a lot longer. Note: I did edit this to clear up some stuff.
Thank you very much for picking this incident up!🙂👍 A little bit too much chatter by the first controler, otherwise very professional by all participants.
Hey ATC.. Shut up. They said they’ll get back to you. Every time you call them, you interrupt the checklist, and they either lose their place or have to start it over.. give them a heading and altitude, then let them call you when they have the time. They’ll let you know when they want the turn back in..
@@darrelneese5676 AVIATE, NAVIGATE, COMMUNICATE -- IN THAT ORDER!! The only job ATC has to do is clear the IFR traffic away from other IFR traffic. He told them, "We may need to return" and hen he's interrupted with the "are you declaring" ... and other crap. There are many checklists that require both pilots coordination and many of those checklists may resolve the issue and the flight can continue as planned. Should they declare, ATC can then ask their questions - which after watching these videos seem to be very non-standard throughout the NAS.
I have been listening to these stories on UA-cam for a while now. Turns out it can be interesting. I started to listen to some of the Live ATC archived HNL feeds, too, so I wondered if this one would appear, as I have noticed that HNL incidents are not frequently covered. However, there is a second part to this, which is challenging to find, so I could see how it got overlooked; if you listen to the original Live ATC feeds real closely, ARFF does come back on looking for them. You can hear more talk of the issues with the ground frequency; however, you must grab the following parts of the ground feeds,18-19z feeds, as they await the tug. It turns out they did have a leak issue. It seems it made a small mess on taxiway A.
Also, it might have helped to have a clock on these things. People seem to forget this is sped up/condescending/trimmed. Listening to the Live ATC feeds, it is a lot longer.
Note: I did edit this to clear up some stuff.
Thank you very much for picking this incident up!🙂👍 A little bit too much chatter by the first controler, otherwise very professional by all participants.
Thank you for watching 👍
@@YouCanSeeATC 🙂
'Souls on Board' is always a reminder, this isn't a game. It's serious business.
But did they set their engines to idle?
Hey ATC.. Shut up. They said they’ll get back to you. Every time you call them, you interrupt the checklist, and they either lose their place or have to start it over.. give them a heading and altitude, then let them call you when they have the time. They’ll let you know when they want the turn back in..
Unfortunately, ATC has their job to do as well.
@@darrelneese5676 AVIATE, NAVIGATE, COMMUNICATE -- IN THAT ORDER!! The only job ATC has to do is clear the IFR traffic away from other IFR traffic. He told them, "We may need to return" and hen he's interrupted with the "are you declaring" ... and other crap. There are many checklists that require both pilots coordination and many of those checklists may resolve the issue and the flight can continue as planned. Should they declare, ATC can then ask their questions - which after watching these videos seem to be very non-standard throughout the NAS.
Way too much communication from ATC Following repeatedly saying they will get back with more information shortly
Indeed, exactly!👍
dont they have a manual method to handle flight controls in case of hydraulic pressure loose
Brings back memories. Hey! Isn’t that same airline that had a plane that lost its roof?
No that was Aloha
No.