Handsaws: Corona VS Silky
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Hey everyone! In this video we show you all a couple of hand saws we've been using to clear small stuff on the property, as well as do small limning tasks.
Corona RazorTOOTH 10-in Folding Pruning Saw:
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Silky Sugoi 420 Arborist Hand Saw:
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You're correct the Coronas are good saws.
I've used their saws and loppers since the mid 1960's pruning our orchards.
I can't say I've ever broke one, I've bent them a little but they straighten out.
I've never broke a tooth off the saw either.
Ha ha, we get a little rough sometimes. We were doing so much tree work that it was 7 days a week for a few months there and you build up some uncommon strength. Plus we are both over active hyper people so we try and make everything happen instantly. No patients at all ha ha. Tools suffer as a result :)
Terry
Thanks for the video! Very informative.
I am, however, concerned about the risk of Oak Wilt at 6:25
I have been advised to be careful when pruning or cutting down oak trees during the growing season. According to the experts, the safest time to prune is in the winter. Open wounds are a major entry point for oak wilt when sap beetles that are carrying the fungus feed.
If I absolutely have to prune or fell an oak in the spring or summer I cover the wound/stump with some tree paint or a latex paint like Killz Clear. The root system of a felled tree is still alive. Many times trees will form root grafts with other trees. When the stump/root system of a tree gets infected it is possible for the fungus to spread to an entire stand of trees and kill them.
Thanks for the compliments.
I understand about winter pruning season. We just did this to show the saws and what they can do. The Oak and other trees that Brian pruned are coming out anyway. We just did the pruning for demonstration purposes. However I did not know about the possibility of root grafting and spreading a fungus. Sure don't want our trees all dying.
We were hoping to get a small stump grinder and grind them down but not sure if they rent them anywhere close by.
Thanks for the comment and info!
Terry
I love my Silky but honestly I've always felt like my Corona was just a touch more durable considering Silky uses sk4, which is a bit higher carbon and a tad harder than the sk5 of the Corona.
They are both great saws. I don't think you could go wrong either way. Its all in what you are looking for.
Terry
Both saws are designed to cut on the pull stroke not the push stroke, that’s how you bend and break blades.
I agree. Thanks for the input. However when you get in a hurry trying to cut bunches of stuff in less than perfect conditions and at awkward angles and you have been doing it for days on end and you have been working extremely hard for months on end your strength increases tremendously to the point that even on the push stroke in one of those less than perfect situations the blades can bend. Ask me how I know, :)
Terry
Silkys don't break like cheap saws. High quality steel and impulse hardened teeth.
@@johnjriggsarchery2457 your right, they break like expensive saws..
There's only one maker of handsaw; Silky. I was a climber for a master arborist and continue to work in natural resources as a trail manager and I still have my original 10 year old Silky Ibuki, my 8 year old Silky Katanaboy and my 8 year old Hyuchi pole saw. They wear out scabbards before they wear out teeth.
Agreed! Awesome tools!
Terry
you're underrating the Corona mate
cuts literally as good and it's cheaper
absolutely effortlessly goes through wood
silky/corona are the only brands I'd touch
After years using cheaper forestry tools, I now only use Silky and Fiskars.. Silky are pricey but well worth the investment, I have the 21 foot pole saw and hand saw, crazy good tools. Fiskars are very well made and have a lifetime warranty which make them also worth the investment.
I agree. And we like Fiskars as well. Great stuff. Excellent post hole diggers.
Terry
It’s just comparison of longer and shorter saw. Thanks. Would be nice to see same size Silky vs Corona how it compares
Might do that some time in the future. Honestly I feel like they cut pretty much the same. The silky wins on durability in our experience.
Terry
Also it was a video showing the things that we have actually used on our homestead/farm project. That is basically what this channel is about most of the time. There are plenty of options out there. We just mainly show what we are using and then give an opinion. If a person does not watch our channel regularly they may be mislead by our videos intentions.:)
sounds like the corona is fine for me im gonna buy two for truck saws for winter and ranch work clearing trees from fenceline and off roads in the winter
They are good saws. I would give them a try for sure. However if they fall apart on you in a short period you may want to consider the Zubat. It definitely lasts much longer under heavy use like we do. Being in construction we use a variety of tools and some items will not last long and during the time you use them they are less efficient so its actually cheaper in the long run to buy top quality stuff because of efficiency and how long it will last. I do not want to change the subject so I will just give a general example. We bought two drills for our electrical contracting business 15 years ago. They are still going strong under very heavy use. People around us buy the cheaper version because they say they can not afford the more expensive version. Then 15 years later they have spent 3 or 4 times the amount of cash on drills because theirs keep breaking on them plus they have all that down time and worst of all their drills are harder on you because they are not efficient. Its all about how much you use a tool I guess.
Terry
Wouldn't it make more sense to compare the similar blade corona has?
Hey Bob. This video was a comparison of two saws we have actually been using to clear our land. It was not meant to be a comparison as though they were thought to be equals. We should have made that point more obvious. They are both great saws and we will likely keep both on hand at all times. I know its apples to beans. Lol
Thank you for watching and being respectful. 😁
Terry
that tree is a tree of heaven
But also commonly referred to as "stink tree" (for good reason). Scientific name is Ailanthus altissima, and you're right...they are highly invasive. I cut all of them I can find while the sap is flowing because I figure that's hardest on the organism. But they sprout back like crazy. I think to really kill them it would take a biocide of some sort.
Thanks for the name, that looks to be correct. They are very weak and take over if you let them making for a scrappy looking forest in my opinion.
Terry
Corona is the best camping saw. Along with my Bahco laplander. But as you say people try to push and cut limbs and trees that are too big than what the particular model is made for.
Good stuff for sure! Thanks for watching!!
Terry
Silky ALL THE WAY! I've only broken one blade using them for ~7 years on a Silky Bigboy and I think that was user error (Cutting when it was ~28 degrees, pushed back in too hard and the blade caught/bent/snapped) Ordered the $30 replacement blade the next day. Have the 21 ft pole saw on the someday list but $300! Buy one cry once!
We love our silky! We actually have a new one, the Zubat. Its awesome. We plan to do a video on it soon. Best saw a homesteader/farmer could ask for in my opinion. I have over worked a cheaper saw blade like you mentioned. They do have their limits and we find what those limits are sometime, ha ha.
You got me wanting a pole saw now!
Terry
those are pull cut saws so when you apply pressure while pushing of course it'll break, it's a pull saw its designed for pressure being pulled not pushed
I agree but it still grabs and bends at times when you push the saw back cutting or not. Still a good saw though. 😁 I keep one in the truck always.
Terry
Corona saw I have is a fixed blade and that thing cuts deep and fast. Need a silky saw to try out though.
They are great saws! Gotta say though I love the silky. :)
Terry
Both those saws are designed to cut on the pull stroke. Hence the broken blades. Not the fault of the saw.
I agree on the design of the saw and its intended use. The problem is not us trying to cut on a push stroke but rather it binding when cutting larger diameter limbs and trunks of trees. When you cut as much stuff as we have been, clearing a 650 driveway and two acres for houses, its gonna bind on you a least a few times. The Corona has a tendency to bend instead of flex in that situation. Its still a very good saw and cuts extremely well. We just have better luck with the Silky.
Terry
@@ForestToFarm So I guess what you're saying is that for occasional use it would be a good choice? Maybe for a bug-out bag?
We like the Corona and if we were less aggressive with it it would likely last longer. Under normal use its a great saw. Bug out its good as well. However the Silky is more reliable in my opinion. If I had to depend on it the Silky would be my choice. The hardware holding it together is better as well. We have had the Corona fall apart and the screw falls out if you do not keep an eye on it. Check out the Silky Gomboy for bug out if your looking for a folding saw. Also check out the company Centerline Systems www.clsgear.com they make a folding saw pouch that is MOLLY compatible.
Terry
Brian, my son has the pouch mentioned above and will be doing a review on it some time in the future. Check back.
Terry
It looks as if you are comparing a 16" vs a 10"? Interesting. I will be auditioning the gomboy 240 vs the Corona 10". These are two folders that look closely related and capture the most curiosity from survivalists.
Yeah, we just compared the saws we have been using that we find to be worthy of purchasing. Both are decent saws but the silky is much more durable and long lasting. The video was more about showing what each of these saws could do. They corona actually does a great job but they do not hold up over extended use when you push them hard.
Terry
I just got my silky Zubat 270, I’m gonna pick up corona Rob chuck it in my bag as a back up
Both great saws!
Terry
Yep Yep
Corona only cuts on the pull stroke, why you pushing. Corona makes a long saw like the Silky. Both are thin you can bend the blades. The long Corona is only 25,00. Good video man. Enjoyed it.
Thanks. Yeah They are only to cut on the pull stroke but when you get going hard it will grab and bend even if you are not actually cutting. We push tools to the limit, ha ha.
Terry-
the Sugoi is the same size as the Sugowasa in fact they are almost identical except Sugowasa has a guard and the Sugoi has a hook in the end
They make some awesome saws! Thanks for watching!
Terry
@@ForestToFarm maybe one of the best saws brand available
Dear Brian,
Your demonstration is quite convincing & very educational too. I hope you won't be suffering from tennis elbow after all that sawing. Would a cordless battery operated chainsaw be any good for small trees like the one you demonstrated??? Kind regards.
Howdy!
Yes the electric chainsaw would be awesome. We actually have an electric cordless sawzall that we are thinking about trying out there. Just have not had the time to do it yet.
Love the sawzall on tree roots, it is one of my dad's favorite tools. I don't think it bites in enough (even with the heavy pruning blades) to cut anywhere close to as fast as the handsaws...
They do tend to get hung up on bigger green stuff from my experience.
Terry
Dear Brian,
Thank you very much for your courteous reply. I have used a Milwaukee 28 volt to great effect & far quieter not too mention more efficient on green wood. I've got a Metabo 18 volt now as the Milwaukee batteries gave up after 18 months of light use. Kind regards.
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your comment. I beg to differ as I personally had rather surprising results with pruning blades. I used Bosch pruning blades in my former Milwaukee V28 & now on my Metabo 18 volts. The Metabo doesn't feel any less capable. I have not seen small handsaws with tooth pattern as agressive as the reciprocating variety. I am aware that Sandvik do make some very agressive handsaws shaped like a bow but have not used them so cannot comment. Kind regards.
You should have used a bow saw... Both those saws are good for harvesting slingshot forks... The little friskars saw I bought is not so good...
They have their place but this video was for the Corona and Silky folding hand saws :).
Terry
So the Corona saws didn't break from manufacturers defects but the wrongful use. If you don't use the tool right then don't blame the tool.
LOL watch the video.
Terry
silky is good, but it can be broken too.
Can't argue with that! :)
Terry
Just got me a corona to help clean up small trees at my moms 🗡
Good stuff. They do a great job!
Terry
Ever have to sharpen the teeth on either saw?
We have never sharpened one. That would seem to be a bit of a chore for sure, lol. Lots of teeth!!
Terry
My biggest complaint with the Corona 10 inch is---
It tends to rust very fast unless coated with machine oil almost daily.
Nothing cuts better than a brand new Corona folding saw---but after some serious work it just doesn't cut thru stuff "like butter". I think one reason for this is the set of the blade's teeth get bent straighter---reducing the saw's Kerf. And with a loss of teeth-set (the angle of individual teeth from blade) the kerf channel is smaller Therefore more work.
They do cut well when new. We keep a couple around.
Terry
what it is called corona razor teeth saw
@@viseshseernam39 Not sure.
@@ForestToFarm the title was given to me a youtuber channel named prepared mind 101
Nothing cuts better than silky.
That "invasive tree" looks like Sumac. It is very invasive and will sprout from roots. The leaves turn red in fall and the fruit is clusters of tiny red berries-inedible. Not to be confused with "Poison Sumac".
Actually it never gets the red berries. It does look like Sumac. Our friend who is an arborist told us what it was but the name slips my mind.
Terry
@@ForestToFarm Hmm, if they aren't Sumac the other two most likely culprits - for something that would taking advantage of cleared areas along roadways with compound leaves like that - would be black walnut and tree-of-heaven. And if your arborist friend told you they were invasive, it is likely the latter.
@@Uradamus Yeah I think it is tree of heaven. Thanks!
terry
There's a specific way to get rid of tree of heaven. Cutting it down makes it propagate more via the root system. Instead, make a couple of cuts on the bark where shrub killer is introduced. It takes a couple of months for the killer to spread throughout the roots. Maybe doing it repeatedly will speed up the process.
Nice review video, thank you.
The invasive species is called Tree of Heaven and it’s nothing but garbage wood
👍Got a lot of garbage out there lol.
Terry
I’ve worked at the silky factory in Japan and can tell you that they are going to outperform any other saw
We tend to agree. Good stuff!!
Terry
Forest To Farm Just wait until next years products. Can’t say much but you’ll be blown away. 😉
Now for the wait!
Terry
Forest To Farm It will be worth it! I’m currently living with the owner of silky this month and showed him part of your video, keep up the good work.
Awesome! If you liked that check out our Silky Zubat Review! Brian makes it look real sexy in the intro, ha ha. Plus we also have the Silky Katanaboy 500 of which we hope to get a video on soon. Probably some time this summer. We absolutely love their saws. And we get a lot of use out of them. Here is the Zubat review video. ua-cam.com/video/mo1uC1Z5GcM/v-deo.html
Great video, the Corona is a cutting machine for 15 bucks on Amazon
Agreed they are good saws. Love the Silky!
Terry
I bought a corona because I wanted a silky but I didn't want to pay for a silky. I can only complain about the handle really. It's just sort of, cheap feeling, flimsy etc.
I agree on all points and our first purchase was based on cost. The handle does hold up though. The problem we have is that lock nut holding the blade eventually falls off. Needs some locktite I guess.
Terry
I think the Coronas would have held up better if they had been non folders.
Yeah they ate good saws. We like both.
Terry
Corona has a 14 inch now for six bucks more
Good to know.
Terry
Too bad they didn’t have the silky back in the Civil War, instead of amputate the leg In under six seconds they could do it in three.
Ouch! That is one way to look at it.
Terry
Sorry...But I owned a landscaping construction and maintenance company. My company (and many others) used Corona folding saws with 10" blades and our company never broke a single saw...It's all about knowing what your doing and maintaining them...if you use them on material larger than what a 10" blade should be used on...you WILL destroy them. they are small material saws...what you are doing is kinda ridiculous...comparing a 10" blade to a 16" -17" silky is like comparing a Honda civic 4 cylinder vs an Acura 6 cylinder no contest.
You could look at it that way or like we do. Even though the Corona is a lessor saw it still holds up very well beyond its intended use. We mentioned that it does a great job and we keep a couple around at all times. Convenience at the moment has us pushing them over the limit and yet they still hold up. Its all about perspective I guess. Read into it what you will. And by the way you are missing the point. This video is one in the many of our homestead development series and if you pay attention to what we are saying early in the video we are simply telling people what tools we use and how they hold up. Same as your cars example if it was a car channel I would tell how each held up. Its not about unfair advantage its about telling our viewers how things hold up for us. Those are the saws we use so they are what we talk about. :)
Negativo. La cara del tipo lo dice todo,,,,,,,, cortando árboles por que sí.
I do not understand your language. :)
Terry
fruit ninja approved?
Ha, not sure who "Fruit Ninja" is lol. With "Ninja" in your name you gotta be bad to the bone, lol.
Terry
@@ForestToFarm Fruit Ninja phone app game for slicing food and stuff...dont try it-addictive for sure. :)
@@tjellis1479 OK lol. Thanks for the warning!!
Terry
My Corona stomps on silky. All day. Every day
Ha ha, to each his own. Have you actually used a Silky?
Terry
@@ForestToFarm of course. If i hadn't how could a issue such a statement?
@@comeandtakeit_bushcraft5705 Sorry, Its the internet so ya never know who your talking to. :)
Terry
@@ForestToFarm aha. Well said this is true. Very true. Yeah idk im very easy on my tools i take my time and maintain them well and for me it seems the corona just eats threw wood. The silky was better quality in terms of material for handle and locking mechanism but imo the corona blade has one up on silky.
@@comeandtakeit_bushcraft5705 Gotta find what works best for you! Terry