What a Debate about Somali Identity...

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  • @osmanmohamedahmed217
    @osmanmohamedahmed217 6 років тому +4

    Well done.. Dr Enow For your Curiosity and the truth telling that no one can dare to say it .İt is the discrimination that they are facing The most Civilized people of Somalia .. Whom are the "Farmres and Fishers of the Somalian people" May Allah Give you His Mercy.. And İam prey Allah For you Jannah.....

  • @MrBravo24b
    @MrBravo24b 7 років тому +6

    Prof Enow you're Great Man. May ALLAH's mercy on you

  • @BrianByaruhanga
    @BrianByaruhanga 2 роки тому

    I did not know that bantu Somalis existed. How can we say that black lives matter when our brothers are under captivity in Somalia. UPDF should rescue them and bring them home.

  • @abuzubayr1584
    @abuzubayr1584 8 років тому +3

    Everyone finds themselves somewhere due to circumstances beyond their control

  • @mohamedh.abdirahman3901
    @mohamedh.abdirahman3901 7 років тому +12

    My Identity is Muslim. Then I am Somali!

    • @saidyballa5223
      @saidyballa5223 Рік тому

      Are you a black skinned person or an Arab person? that’s your personal identify

    • @sadiqsabo1726
      @sadiqsabo1726 10 місяців тому

      your religion is Islam, your identity is Somalian and your race is black

  • @saadaatmuuse111
    @saadaatmuuse111 6 років тому +1

    Dr Hussein abdullahi bulhan very good lecture and thank you

  • @namiin3034
    @namiin3034 7 років тому +3

    Dr Bulhan 👏👏👏Always mind expanding.

  • @amalia3580
    @amalia3580 4 роки тому +5

    I love my bantu Brothers and Sisters. Thank you for opening my eyes. I already discussed this topic in my familie. Somalis are black and we should give the Somali bantu special protection.

    • @battoday953
      @battoday953 4 роки тому +1

      The professor made up a lot off it.

  • @abdihafidIsmailAbunadeem
    @abdihafidIsmailAbunadeem  9 років тому +9

    Actually it's a fact that Arabs came to Africa

    • @shesBlessed83
      @shesBlessed83 8 років тому +1

      Of course everyone know that

    • @jacobtone86
      @jacobtone86 8 років тому +1

      Arab is not a race but language and culture. There are Arabs from Ishmael and Arabs from other races and nationalities. Somalis have only some links to the Ishmaelites who are BLACK themselves.

    • @yayavellilion8136
      @yayavellilion8136 6 років тому

      Sammo Media no Africa came to tnrm5

    • @fatimaali848
      @fatimaali848 4 роки тому

      Very True Nobody can deny that very true.

    • @fatimaali848
      @fatimaali848 4 роки тому

      @@jacobtone86
      Somalis have a long History from many many angles be it Arabic people and Religion. And a vast mixture of African Heritage combined with SWT Islam and African Culture etc . A long History from the Pharaohs/cushitic.

  • @MohamedJimcaale-jh4mp
    @MohamedJimcaale-jh4mp 10 місяців тому

    Allah,s mercy on you our best proffoser

  • @AliHassan-hb1bn
    @AliHassan-hb1bn Рік тому

    Somalians related to ancient people of Egypt (Gobta) in Somalian language meaning "Superior"

  • @Drammaboi1
    @Drammaboi1 8 років тому +4

    This dude is lost valhi. he came here with no facts no sources. he is just stating his opinion and want to be taken as facts.

  • @CyberLx
    @CyberLx 8 років тому +1

    I appreciate DR. Bulhan and his way of describing stuff, DR. may your soul rest in peace, I can feel the pain you went through whatever happened to you in the past. Mr. Enow's attitude of saying "you" and 'We' I really don't like, but it doesn't make me shay away or ignore the suffering at home. I am Arab by blood and by dhaqan and by every way. Arab come before everything, but my Somalism is untouched.

  • @kismail1648
    @kismail1648 8 років тому +7

    this type of westernised idea doesnt work in Somalia. First , respect people's culture . Girls at least put a headscarf , even cadaan people respect this when they go to somalia

    • @yusufxa2414
      @yusufxa2414 5 років тому +2

      Then using your demented logic cadaan people should make Somali women take off their headscarves when they live in the west. Surely, Somali's ought to respect that. Think before you right. Western society is way more advanced hence why Somali migrated in droves to the west and not the middle east.

    • @JamaluddinAlMuqdishaawi
      @JamaluddinAlMuqdishaawi 2 роки тому

      @@yusufxa2414 hmm, no, theres also large Somali community's in middle east, some would die to live in Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait and Oman, but they dont accept people like that, they have too many citizens.
      Also, Hijab is Objectively superior, so we will enforce that.

    • @sharwama992
      @sharwama992 2 роки тому

      @@JamaluddinAlMuqdishaawi what you wrote here and your profile name is an irony

    • @sharwama992
      @sharwama992 2 роки тому

      @@JamaluddinAlMuqdishaawi Somalis are used as foot soldiers in this countries
      Cannon fodder for their wars 😂

    • @JamaluddinAlMuqdishaawi
      @JamaluddinAlMuqdishaawi 2 роки тому

      @@sharwama992
      Somalis that serve in the military and police force do so largely in Qatar, Qatar isn't directly involved in any wars, so would be hard to see how they are used in their wars, maybe you are talking about Call of Duty or something.
      I'd be interested to see what you mean, please show me authentic sources that show that Somalis are used by the Gulf in their wars, the only war I know outside Somalia where the Somali citizens are used is in Eritrea, which is secular/Christian majority and Ethiopia which is secular/Christian majority, so it is the Ethiopians and Eritreans using Somalis as "Cannon fodder" as you said. Your own "cushitic brothers" are using you and the Somali prisoners of war are being used as free labour by TPLF.

  • @darylwebb832
    @darylwebb832 9 років тому +9

    Very good lecture forum on the subject... I've always felt that some of our Somali family had the Arab mythos within them... and it has been negatively detrimental to Somslia and Africa on the whole...

    • @darylwebb832
      @darylwebb832 8 років тому +3

      *****​ I've listened to other bantu people of Somalia and according to them as well as Dr Eno, the bantus have always been discriminated against even before the war... Dr Eno told the story of his own life growing up in Somalia... how he was treated by the majority...
      Yes, im sure that he received a good education in Somalia... but that doesnt mean anything... Dr Martin Luther King Jr and WEB De Boise both earned a PH'D in America... Does that mean that America isnt racist? Lol... America is perhaps the most racist and most terroristic country ever formed on the planet...
      And lastly, its also telling of you too if you are concerned about "bantus marrying Somalis"... that right there shows your racism... Dr Eno is a Somalian too... You are doing the same BS as white Americans do here... blame the victim of racist acts as the racist because the victim refuses to be treated like a slave...
      I see right through you my African friend...
      "It's amazing that he ignores that Somalis do not usually marry other tribes either"... accordjng to your words....
      But its ok for non bantus to rape the bantu women and no one does nothing about it... in fact, women are being raped across the board of ethnicities in Somalia...
      You are just one sided... you are not taking into account everyone else...

    • @darylwebb832
      @darylwebb832 8 років тому +1

      ***** not all bantus came from the west... that i checked myself...

    • @darylwebb832
      @darylwebb832 8 років тому +1

      *****​​ Do you even know what a bantu is? I dont think you do... in the southern area in your region... In fact central south eastern Africa is where woman and man was born... as the population within MILLIONS of years grew, people migrated to your area and beyond... They also migrated WEST TO THE AFRICAN CONTINENT, North and South... MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO.!! GET IT...
      BANTU IS A RACIST TERM USED FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES...
      If they are bantu, then you are bantu too... a bantu is a wanderer... or nomad... Africans...
      As far as im concerned Arabs, indians and euros are the only bantus there, according to your logic... damn it...

    • @darylwebb832
      @darylwebb832 8 років тому +1

      +muna clear There is it... right there... we are not the same because we all look different... look let me ask you,
      Do you consider yourself an Arab, African or what.. because all of your posts reveal that you abosutely think like a damn Arab..
      you are not fooling me... Dr Eno proves to me that he is more Somalian than what you are trying go portray him... what you just last posted, tells me that, not only are you like the bantu, you dont even consider yourself AFRICAN... i have no respect for you now...
      I see that you identify with the Arabs even though you deny it...

    • @darylwebb832
      @darylwebb832 8 років тому

      No, you just proved that you are the ignorant one...
      Before they left out to venture from the continent, regions were inhabited and areas within all directions were settled... as climates changed, so did the inhabitants along with the foods they ate... clans intermingled and DNA mutated... changing the textures of festures and hair... BUT THEY WERE AFRICANS... THE LIGHTENING OF SOME THAT WERE OF LIGHTER SKIN, CAME AS A RESULT OF RAPE... AND AMALGAMATION.!! After Many hundreds of thousands of years when those Africans that left many hundreds of thousands of years CAME BACK WITH THE LACK OF MELANIN/CARBON because of the cold climate in Europe... THAT CHANGE NEVER, NEVER OCCURED BEFORE OUTWARD MIGRATION...
      Try that Eurocentric lie on someone else...

  • @iamweird6453
    @iamweird6453 7 років тому +1

    32:34 loooooooool that was a good one. just like our african ethnic groups in todays world we seek so hard to be from an arab and european. and we feint moment he discover any further links within out own ethnic group or other african ethnic groups, it's disease we suffer from because our rich continent is underdeveloped so being from there hold no tangible value.

  • @darylwebb832
    @darylwebb832 8 років тому +7

    i am sure that the young Somali lady should be running Somalia...

    • @darylwebb832
      @darylwebb832 8 років тому

      ***** I know for a fact, personally that most Arabs do not respect nor like Africans of any kind... so, i see your point...

    • @fatimaali848
      @fatimaali848 4 роки тому +2

      I agree I should be I am a a mature mixed British/Somali Woman. But nice of you to say so. I can see your point kkkk.
      Regards,
      Fatima....from London

    • @fatimaali848
      @fatimaali848 4 роки тому +1

      Mr Webb. My name is Fatima...And thank you for your Comment bless you.

    • @darylwebb832
      @darylwebb832 4 роки тому

      @@fatimaali848 you're welcome Fatima, my pleasure...

  • @fatimaali848
    @fatimaali848 8 років тому +1

    migration of AFRICAN studies should be talking also to US British born Mixed Somali children I have ALSO a lot to SAY..
    Thank You for listening.

  • @Jananka
    @Jananka 8 років тому +4

    Rest in Peace Professor Omar Enow. You will be missed.

    • @namiin3034
      @namiin3034 7 років тому

      Jananka awwww Allah ya Rahma, is he dead?

  • @fatimaali848
    @fatimaali848 8 років тому +4

    why are you not talking about our feelings of being mixed Somalis good and bad I am here in London ready to TALK speak to ME I will tell you ALL...

    • @Dudeldani
      @Dudeldani 6 років тому +1

      Fatima Ali I have questions if you are still up for it

    • @Dudeldani
      @Dudeldani 6 років тому +1

      Fatima Ali I have questions if you are still up for it

  • @Ameen_hussein.
    @Ameen_hussein. 4 роки тому +2

    allah yarhamu, prof Ennow
    waan k xumahay in aan bartey xilli uu inaga baxay uu tagey hoygiisii dhabta ahaa! lkn waxa joogaa weedhiisii oon sinaba uuga daaleyn.
    xaq iyo run buu sheegay.
    garsoorkuna waxa uu usugnaadey Eebbe.

  • @LondonE68
    @LondonE68 4 роки тому +2

    59:59 they mean your ancestors were slaves NOT you

  • @faarahhussein4226
    @faarahhussein4226 5 років тому +3

    Prof Enow Allah ya Rahma

  • @AliHassan-hb1bn
    @AliHassan-hb1bn Рік тому

    It is psycology , culture and religion that matters not your race.

  • @katelojarso3215
    @katelojarso3215 4 роки тому +2

    Wow he is very good 👍 👏 👌 😍 😀 😊 👍 👏

  • @moneymanstarling6967
    @moneymanstarling6967 8 років тому +1

    the two professor's are in agreement but Mr enow went too deep in it basing on his experience, while mr bulhan was more of generalise.I hv got enough knowledge thank you all.but don't just concentrate on the negative side.

  • @fatimaali848
    @fatimaali848 8 років тому +6

    my mother Janet British spoke Somali my father Ahmed is Somali I am the daughter mixed I speak Somali my name is Fatima I want a big debate on Somali issues as they talk about it in America.

    • @saadaatmuuse111
      @saadaatmuuse111 6 років тому

      Fatima Ali you aren't Somali but you are have somali

    • @dur-durmediagroup3752
      @dur-durmediagroup3752 5 років тому

      saadaat muuse so you r Somali🖕

    • @hodonhibo6889
      @hodonhibo6889 4 роки тому +1

      You cant debate about something you dont know about. You know nothing of somali history

    • @fatimaali848
      @fatimaali848 4 роки тому

      @@hodonhibo6889
      You talk absolute NONSENSE. I WAS IN SOMALILAND WHILST YOU RAN AWAY ON THE BOATS. MY FATHER IS A SOMALILANDER I AM VERY VERY PROUD ALSO OF MY MOTHER AND ENGLAND MY HOME. YOU ARE EXTREMELY ARROGANT AND VERY RUDE. I KNOW MORE ABOUT SOMALILAND THAN YOU DO. AND YOUR ENGLISH IS A LOT TO BE DESIRED. I HAVE THE LEGACY FROM MY FATHER ABOUT SOMALILAND. SO HODON HIBO WHO ARE YOU TO INSULT ME? MY FATHER AHMED TOUGHT ME WELL IT IS MY FATHER AND MOTHER'S LEGACY I HAVE UNLIKE YOU THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS AND I LEAVE THE BAD BEHIND ME. BY THE WAY I SPEAK READ AND WRITE SOMALI TO DATE.
      LONG LIVE PREVIOUSLY BRITISH SOMALILAND AND SOMALILAND NOW AND THE SNM. AND MY FAB COUNTRY ENGLAND.
      FATIMA GOLEH.

  • @yusufxa2414
    @yusufxa2414 5 років тому +1

    I wonder if the Prof was subtly alluding to the so-called certainty of religion in which Somali's see themselves as superior, as though it's a contest of the most righteous. Although, objectivity, every Somali in every clan is as worse as the next one. Perhaps the moral delusion of religion is what has corrupted Somali's. If we consider the terrorist groups in Somalia, they act as an ideologically (Islam) driven political force. During Barre's regime, society was a collective based on Somali principles and traditions. Somalia is at war with itself as it tries to find who wins the battle of ideology and politics.

  • @yusufxa2414
    @yusufxa2414 5 років тому +5

    After finishing the talk, I can conclude that Somali's are very good at being imagined "Muslims". Until we face the fact that Somalia as a society will not move forward with far-right, ultra-Islamic ideology whilst being utterly hypocritical and self-seeking. It's time to bloody accept our differences as a source of strength in diversity rather than burn down more bridges and reck a recked country even more. In brief, we need a liberal democracy... and before anyone thinks it's a western proposition, I'd suggest you take a look at all the Somali's who chose to live in places like the UK, America, Canada, Norway in droves etc and not Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar.

    • @musasamatar7008
      @musasamatar7008 4 роки тому +6

      liberilism is not compatible with orthodox islamic ideoligies and views meaning an islamic state cannot implement liberilism

  • @katelojarso3215
    @katelojarso3215 4 роки тому +1

    Well done professor 👏

  • @hawiyebitchestheylikeblack5196
    @hawiyebitchestheylikeblack5196 8 років тому +7

    somalia waxaankunacay carab sheegasho

  • @fatimaali848
    @fatimaali848 8 років тому +1

    How about researching mixed BRITISH SOMALi people's.

  • @QGprincess
    @QGprincess 8 років тому +4

    Somaliland is not even a country. why are we including the debate? Somalis are one and one only. cut the crap.

    • @aminliban3192
      @aminliban3192 5 років тому

      QGprincess fam wtf there’s to fucking president fucking speaking different Somali accent do your research bitch

  • @famalow299
    @famalow299 8 років тому +4

    Somalis should look up to Djibouti where Somali , Afar and yamani live together and get rid of that sick mentality. GET REAL folks!

    • @iamweird6453
      @iamweird6453 7 років тому +4

      FA Malow you say somalis by Djibouti is ran by Somalis who made this diversity possible lol weird

  • @md-kz1ks
    @md-kz1ks 6 років тому +2

    Somalis are Somali not Arab but they have very deep and old relationships

  • @reercaligamaan714
    @reercaligamaan714 2 роки тому +1

    The Somali people are one. Don’t divide them? Remember how colonial powers decided great Somali country into five parts.

  • @AliHassan-hb1bn
    @AliHassan-hb1bn Рік тому

    Waxan xasuustaa Enow oo iskool private ah kafurtay danwadaagta jidka looyaqaan oo Carabi ,Talyani iyo ingiriis lagubarto.

  • @shirmooge
    @shirmooge 6 років тому +2

    somali waa afrikaan cidii diida waa dameer wuxuu yahay ka cararaaya kkkkk

  • @FAHADJIKOTA751
    @FAHADJIKOTA751 Рік тому

    pro omar eynow may allah grant him janah

  • @abdullahiosman9856
    @abdullahiosman9856 10 років тому +4

    which identity are they talking about xijabkiiba waba la tuuray.We don't have an identity that is not islam

    • @kosmicfarmer2638
      @kosmicfarmer2638 10 років тому +5

      Our identity is our history, Somalis had one of the most powerful empires in Africa for hundreds of years. We have a lineage which is very noble but im not saying we should leave Islam but Islam is not our history we had history before Islam.

    • @abdullahiosman9856
      @abdullahiosman9856 10 років тому +2

      Mo Hersi I have nothing to say to someone who chose MO over the noble and beautiful name of our prophet.Just pathetic u are a disgrace to ur parent who gave u the delicate name MOHAMAD.

    • @kosmicfarmer2638
      @kosmicfarmer2638 10 років тому +3

      abdullahi osman R u fukin stupid? I said we have our own history Islam isn't our history how is that down playing Islam? I love our beautiful prophet and the wisdom he gave us, but facts are facts Somalis were there before Islam we should know our ancestors before Islam and honor them also

    • @abdullahiosman9856
      @abdullahiosman9856 10 років тому +1

      Mo Hersi I never argued about our history or do we have history before islam Neither do i believe we had history before islam or that we had great empires before islam.Empires that i do know of are those of IFAAD,ADIIL,WALASHA and those of imam ahmed ibrahim(ahmed gurey).Then comes those of AJURAAN and BANADIR and lastly the DARAWIISH of maxamed cabdille xassan.So which ones are u talking about.

    • @kosmicfarmer2638
      @kosmicfarmer2638 10 років тому +1

      abdullahi osman Okay thats all i was saying it was a misunderstanding then i though you were saying we were dumb and ignorant before Islam

  • @fatimaali848
    @fatimaali848 8 років тому +2

    Somalis are African,
    with some Arabic and British others like ME.
    Remember we're you come from xxx. respect xx

    • @haruny100
      @haruny100 5 років тому +1

      Fatima Ali You are not arab or british. You may be a national in one of those countries but you are a somali or not. You may be a somali who moved to yemen but again, you are ethnically somali or not. I hate somalis who claim to be arab more than anything. Its disgusting and the epitome of self hate. I cant confirm what you are, but i do know that 99% of somalis claiming to be arabs are just delusional. Like wallahi they need psychiatric help.

    • @Ameen_hussein.
      @Ameen_hussein. 4 роки тому +1

      We can get arabs become Somalis that we can find in our society, but we can't find Somalis that become Arabs. that's define answer to those say's we belong to Arabs.

  • @abuzubayr1584
    @abuzubayr1584 8 років тому +2

    Interesting talks by drs bulhaan and enow but I think enow had his own agenda I don't think Somalis should beg arabs for acceptance but I don't like the drive the wedge further so we can unite on blackness or africanness and I don't think we should unite on arabness either lol but simply Islam

  • @fartunsokondo237
    @fartunsokondo237 Рік тому

    Nothing but facts

  • @wadefreeman7340
    @wadefreeman7340 8 років тому +2

    hadaan meesha joogo maba qosleen sababtoo ah ,waa wax damiirka biniaadamka ka fog inaan sidaa isu cunsuriyayno.waxaan u malaynayaa in dhaqanka miyiga oo carab laga soo min guuriyey uu kadanbeeyo

  • @hawiyebitchestheylikeblack5196
    @hawiyebitchestheylikeblack5196 8 років тому +1

    madhiwaan kiina walayasa iyo bant oo muslim ah ..hadana naagihi jamaican ayaa wadaguursaday shiit

    • @swahamdaham3931
      @swahamdaham3931 8 років тому

      Hawiye Bitches They Like Black Dick afka maa naaxo

  • @addowilyaasali4286
    @addowilyaasali4286 7 років тому +1

    Muslim miyaa qoftaas shit mida kale dadka udoodadaya majoritiga waxaan leeyhay iimaanka alah kugeliyo

  • @abuzubayr1584
    @abuzubayr1584 8 років тому

    Ilwaad elman talk wasn't great started off somewhere and finished somewhere totally different

  • @katelojarso3215
    @katelojarso3215 4 роки тому

    Wow

  • @biidhassan3443
    @biidhassan3443 3 роки тому +1

    Rip

  • @mickeitachannel498
    @mickeitachannel498 4 роки тому

    The debate it yours

  • @abzzay5167
    @abzzay5167 8 років тому

    Gender bias lol

  • @cabdijibaarhiis6272
    @cabdijibaarhiis6272 7 років тому

    waar ninka caba naya magacii

    • @taartog
      @taartog 7 років тому

      Professor Cumar Enow........haddase waa uu mootanyahay oo waa uu dhintay alle hawnaxariistee .

  • @MrBravo24b
    @MrBravo24b 7 років тому +2

    TO ME I THINK SOMALI'S NOMAD ARE THE CHILDREN OF TWO NATION, THEIR MOM IS AFRICAN BANTU THEIR DAD IS ARAB RER BANADIRI

    • @amaanreer5311
      @amaanreer5311 7 років тому

      Quraysh القرشي no one begs, rer banadir look like light skin bantu, i dont want my kids nose covering most of their face

    • @amaanreer5311
      @amaanreer5311 7 років тому

      Quraysh القرش how do we venerate you when the international community recognizes you as persecuted minority ?

    • @amaanreer5311
      @amaanreer5311 7 років тому

      Quraysh القرشي
      why didnt the "majority bantu/arab" people of africa save you during the war in the 90's?

    • @amaanreer5311
      @amaanreer5311 7 років тому

      Quraysh القرشي
      saudis acted fast when houthis took over sanaa,why didn't they send some troops to help their fellow arabs in mogadishu ? why don't arab countries talk about your 0.5 status ?

    • @hodonhibo6889
      @hodonhibo6889 4 роки тому +1

      Your stupid for thinking that. Look up somali dna, and tell show my the half bantu and half arab

  • @wadefreeman7340
    @wadefreeman7340 8 років тому

    snm cadaan iska gadaya bakh bakh

  • @moneymanstarling6967
    @moneymanstarling6967 8 років тому +5

    the two professor's are in agreement but Mr enow went too deep in it basing on his experience, while mr bulhan was more of generalise.I hv got enough knowledge thank you all.but don't just concentrate on the negative side.

    • @zakariamohamed6433
      @zakariamohamed6433 6 років тому

      Moneyman Starling .the only comment i can actually say,they listen carefully what have been said.keep up man