The Best Sleeping Pad I Have Ever Tested...EVER! - Therm-a-Rest XTherm Sleeping Pad Review
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Winter time is upon us and today I’m going to be sharing with you all one of my favorite pieces of gear EVER!
This is the Xtherm Sleeping Pad/Mattress from Therm-a-Rest and this is the best sleeping pad mattress that I have ever tested. While there are some very high-end pads that get close to this, there is no pad out on the market today that has been able to overthrow it.
I’ve been testing this product out for get this, almost 10 years!
Literally, I purchased this pad in the fall of 2014 and it’s still going strong.
Year after year, trip after trip, this pad continues to be m first choice when it comes to cold weather pads.
It’s comfortable, it’s lightweight, it’s compact and it’s warm.
At the same time, it is EXPENSIVE!
As with all high-end gear, if you want to play you’ll have to pay.
It’s just how it is.
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Therm-a-Rest Xtherm Sleeping Pad Stats :
Price : When I originally purchased the Xthrem 10 years ago, it cost me $150 for the regular size. Now, the Xtherm runs around $250 - give or take depending on where you order it from.
Colors : There are 2, both are shades of gray - one is bluish gray and the other is gray gray like you see here.
Versions : There are two versions, a mummy cut and a rectangle version. There is also a version that is even more lightweight - I prucahsed the heavier model as it is more durable and it is warmer.
Materials : 70D nylon on the bottom withstands the wear and tear of extended expedition use, while 30D ripstop nylon on top keeps it light and packable.
Weight : 15.5oz
Sizes : Regular, Regular Wide, and Large
Dimensions Stored : 9” x 4.5”
Dimensions Inflated : 20” Wide, 72” Long, 3” Thick
R-Value : An incredible 7.3 - that is very high for an air mattress.
How? : Therm-a-Rest was able to accomplish this high R-value due to two thermal technologies that they implement into this pad - one is called the Triangular core Matrix and the other is ThermaCapture - both of these you can look up on the Therm-a-rest web site.
Included : Pump Sack, Stuff Sack and Repair Kit
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I own the Therm-A-Rest NeoAir All Season sleeping pad since 2012 and it is still fully functional without any issues. It's a fantastic sleeping pad even after 12 years. I am considering a new XTherm sleeping pad solely for its higher R-value for winter conditions.
How is it in summer? Is it cold camping only?
I purchased an XTherm about 8 years ago after a backpacking trip in Northern California where I froze my buns off using a cheap sleeping pad. The XTherm has never leaked or failed me in any way since that time. I never fill it up with my breath but use a little Thermarest mini pump which is surprisingly light and battery efficient (2 AAA). Never going back to a normal sleeping pad.
I truly cherish and respect your reviews. The description of your daughters pack sack is hilarious. In my opinion, you are the most respected review channel that exists, thank you for that. All the best, Dave & The Girls
I’ve had mine for years. I use it year round. It’s never failed me. Taken it down to -9F and felt nothing but heat underneath me. I don’t sleep in a different bed at home when it’s hot vs cold, I don’t need to when backpacking either. It’s a great pad!
I bought the new Thermarest for my 2023 AT thru hike. I started in Feb and sleep cold so needed a high R value. It was more than I wanted to spend but I justified it that it was the cost of spending just a few nights at a hotel. I would use it for 6 months on trail. It kept me warm and comfortable. I got my moneys worth and it probably has many years left.
I do mostly car camping and use the Thermarest LuxuryMap sleeping pad. It's the best sleeping pad i've ever used. They make great products and wouldn't expect anything less from the company. Nice review!
I LOVE my Nemo Tensor. I have the 25-inch-wide, rectangular version. It’s insulated and is a comfy four inches thick. I can’t image there’s a more functional, comfortable sleeping pad - for me, at least.
A good night's sleep is priceless, seems like a buy once cry once thing.
Hi Luke!
A couple thoughts about similar pads with high quality, R Value, and low weight.
Exped makes some fantastic pads. I have the Exped Ultra 7R and it’s commonly seen on sale for $150 or less online. The only difference is the slight addition of weight. It’s still less than 2lbs though! Exped also makes an 8R pad. These pads are almost dead quiet when I toss and turn at night.
My buddy recently purchased the Nemo Tensor Extreme Condition pad. It boasts an 8.5 R value!!!! He said it is a dream to sleep on and the best part is how it weighs less than 1 Lb 8oz (depending on the model). This pad is expensive similar to the Thermarest around $250.
Thanks again for posting another great review video. Cheers 🍻
My experience in my meager 3 years of camping, the Big Agnes Insulated Air Core Ultra has been exceeding comfortable for me in all seasons. The lowest I've been in has been 19⁰ F. Not sure why I'd need a $250 air mattress. Granted, it's not as light as the Thermarest. And, it is quiet. I feel I made a great choice.
I built a winter sleeping system this summer with this mattress. I started with a Snugpak Antarctica sleeping bag, Arctic mat, fleece liner, SF bivvy, German army elephant skin tarp that you recommended. Flex tail 2x pump, etc. I even have the exact same 85 l backpack that you have except I ordered mine from Poland a few years ago on eBay. I learned quite a bit from you over the years, thanks. Canada.
My Camp Rest Thermarest is the best zi've used and owned. I've had it over 35 years now, maybe 40. It works great. Always the go to piece of equipment in my travels
I have the large wide rectangular. Worth the money. I also have the large wide Uberlight. Also worth the money. It’s ridiculously light and compact. Great sleeping pads. Obviously, care is required when preparing the ground so punctures don’t happen. For most prepared sites type backpacking, these are great pads.
I agree with your review. We have two Original Thermo-Rest from about 1989. Paid 75 bucks each back then....totally worth it. We still use them!! Never had an issue not once. We also bought two of the neo ones about 2012. Wanted the lighter versions to lighten our packs for Boundary waters and backpacking trips. They are perfect and also worth the money. Like all camping gear take care of it and it will take care of you for many years.
I bought my first Therm-a-rest pad in the mid-80s. It's still in use without any problems. It's just good quality. Of course, the newer ones are more lightweight and better insulated than my old pad. But it's still good for summer.
I just found one at good will for ten dollars. It's not like that one but it's thermo rest, probably and old one. It has cloth on it and four fiberglass things I put them in the slot's on the sides. It inflated itself! I'm going back for the other one. It's amazing!
With a wife that gets extra cranky with little sleep, a bag of chips sound is not worth the vitriol.
The new NXT version fixed that issue, barely any sound. Higher r value too. Best 260 I ever spent.
I have a lot of respect for US made camping gear. My Moss Outland is US made, have had it for years. Whenever I see a US flag on a piece of camping gear, ya just know it's going to be good. I just bought two Thermarests: NeoAir XLite (S as a torso pad) and a ProLite Plus. Always enjoy your reviews. Super succinct.
In some instances you can get away with middle of the road equipment but for COLD weather camping, you do need to get the best equipment. This item is a very important piece you should not skimp on at all....great review
I've had the Xtherm Max Wide. I love it. I rever got on with the mummy shaped ones, my legs end up off the side. But boy when I got it, I don't use the term "game changer" on a whim, but thats exactly the term I have to use.
One thing though, I've never understood why people complain about the noise. It only makes noise when you're tossing and turning. When you're lying down normally on your own it's a total non issue. Even when you do turn over the noise really isn't loud enough to bother me, and believe me, noises often disturb me, but the noise from the Xtherm does not bother me one bit.
I love their gear, I went with their Mondoking XXL instead because I toss and turn at night and needed something a bit wider, very similar otherwise and absolutely love it. Thanks Luke!
I nearly bought one but I seen the reviews on Amazon and other online stores about these delaminating.
@@raytaylor4199 I haven't had that issue but I admit I don't camp as much as Luke does.
@@darkangelgaming1117 I really wanted it as well but I just didn’t want to risk spending that much money then going through the warranty hassle.
I spent that 250 and have never regretted it. This thing is unbelievly warm 7.2 RV seriously, I love my Xthrem!
Well worth the money. I know what you mean about it being a bit noisy but it's not a problem for me and I don't notice it.
It is without a doubt THE BEST sleeping mat I've EVER had👍
Hello Luke, I have that sleeping pad, it's the rectangle large and I love it but yes it is very expensive and noisy but if something was to happen to it, I would buy it again. Thanks for your review on it, well done.
Yup this thing is awesome. I have the rectangular wide one with the big pump sac. It is the only mat I trust in the harsh eastern Canadian winters. I have slept on it in -30C and stayed warm. I actually use mine as a winter seat to with the Trekker chair attachment. It is crazy how no company can make a freaking pad as warm. They all try but they cannot. When you see people climbing mount everest and other extreme mountains, They all have a Xtherm. There is no room for error with real cold. All the other mats are prone to failure and just not worth the risk.
Therm-A-Rest is a pretty good company to. They stand by their products. You did not mention this because your mat never failed. (Which is a testament to their quality). So yes, It is expensive but It has a lifetime warranty. When you buy something from Therm-a-rest. It is literally a lifetime investment. The only other company in in the camping/hiking world as good as them for warranty is Osprey. These two companies don't mess around.
For me it was worth the money. I got mine on sale for 200 Canadian in the summer. If you buy winter gear in the spring and summer you can sometimes find some really good deals. I personally do not find it as noisy as my Yellow Therma-a-rest potato chip pad.
Thanks Luke! I was going to get this until I saw there was a new version which I'll get. Yes the price is ridiculous especially the new one...but the way I see it what's a few hundred if you'll get years and years of use out of it? Lots of people spend that every week on drinking... I'd rather pay less, but good gear is an investment in yourself ultimately...
My philosophy is buy it once, good for the wallet and the planet. 😊
I have a thermal, rest , Pro. and I’ve had it for to years and I am very glad to have it. Yes it’s bulky yes it’s not ultra light, but it keeps me warm. I’ve used it in the winter months in lost Maples Texas as well as black gap Texas, and the AT.
Thermarest listened & made a MW size: I baught it. Testing, Nemo (8.5R) runs a slicker deflate/inflate system, so does Exped, but Exped fails baffles & negates insulation on the sides of MW Winter. Jury is out on Nemo, but no MW Mummy.
Per weight & reliability Thermarest has proven itself. Never guessed made in USA though. I own the X-Lite 66" x 20" R-5.4 Women's as my most versatile. You might like that one for your Ultimate UL kit. The MW Winter Rules the MW Mummy Category. Nemo is out there with an R-8.5 reg.
Truth. Been using mine since 2013-2014. It is way too expensive but man it radiates heat
My experience with Therm-a-Rest is quite different. I have a NeoAir Trekker and in 6 years I used it about 50 days max. After the first 3-4 years it leaks a ton of air through the seams, to the point that I need to re-inflate it during the night 1or 2 times. I mention that I am very careful with my gear, I rarely break stuff.
The warmest mat I ever used was the Exped Downmat 9 LW version. I currently own a Big Agnes Rapide SL Insulated, but is not in the same league in terms of its warmth factor, however is very comfortable. The Exped Downmat 9 LW has now been discontinued. Unfortunately, and was slightly too heavy & bulky at 1.2kg.
Exped makes a newer pad with down insulation and it’s rated at R 7.1. I’ve been using mine for a few months now and really enjoy it. It weighs 0.86 kg
I use an Exped Synmat with an R value of 6. It's still going strong after 16 years. It's warm and ridiculously comfortable. I much prefer it to Thermarest pads.
Love my down mat 7...the new duras are supposed to be even warmer
I had a previous iteration of this pad and yes it was warm, light weight and high quality BUT it was the most uncomfortable pad that i ever had. I could not sell it fast enough and purchased a much thicker pad. yes the new pad was more weight/bulk, slightly less R value, but much more comfortable. If weight is really critical I understand the attraction of this pad but comfort is critical for me and weight can be cut elsewhere to compensate
Well if you keep the pad for 10+ years that is $25.00 per year. Reasonable if you ask me. Value because of excellent craftsmanship, and outstanding comfort. All reasons why you pay the high price as well as the unit is made here in the USA. Thanks for this fine review.
Well, I bit the bullet! I was tired of searching online and You Tube for the best budget pad out there, so I punched in air mattress and your channel came up with this video! I always take your recommendations and after hearing this glowing review, much to my chagrin I yanked out my credit card!🥵Anyway, when you said 10 years, I thought of this purchase as an investment. Darn you Luke!😂
I grabbed 3 of these a two years ago and we really like them, though price and noise are definitely the cons. My son takes his on his Air Cadet outings all of the time, preferring it over the Therm-a-Rest Prolite Apex. I picked up a Flextail Zero Pump last month for these and it is awesome for inflating/deflating these. I'd love to see Luke's review of this pump.
Thats a great pad. When i was researching sleeping pads that the one that was recommended over all others.
Also I get that it's good, and will last. but it might be $250 there, but after pounds for dollars it's actually $300-$360 here in the UK (today's Amazon prices). It's astronomically priced for those outside the US. That's the price of a mid-range UL tent!
Hey Luke, over the pond our Thermarest (Made in Ireland) comes with a lifetime guarantee? Not in the US?
Daughter tested, Father approved! I'm sold...
I owned the original xTherm and i really liked it because it was the warmest pad i had used so when the new one came out i sold it on eBay then bought the new one. Maybe it was bad luck but i had to send 2 of the new ones back because they wouldn't stay inflated and then i lost my confidence so decided to try the Nemo Tensor Extreme conditions R8 and now i prefer this over the Xtherm because its equally as warm but much more comfy and quieter too plus its colour appeals more and tiny pack size.
My XTherm leaked and I couldn't fix it, but they replaced it free. I will carry an additional small foam mattress and space blankets so I won't get cold from the ground again.
I have the NeoAir Thermarest in 2017 when I went to Havasu Falls. It’s my only complaint too, the noise that sounds like chips bag.
I found the 2020 version with R value of 6.9 regular wide for 110gbp (130 euros) on sale. I didn't think twice. So far tested it in -17C and slept without an issue. I will post a vlog sometime of my previous night out with it.
My unbiased- I have Xtherm & Nemo EC. I have found the NEMO to be more comfortable and both warm. I take the NEMO EC most
I have the regular wide and the newer NXT thicker version. Both kept my back toasty warm at -25c+ sleeping directly on the frozen ground
That valve is better than the new one. They actually just sent me one with a completely delaminated baffle. They are sending me another so now I'll have 2 of them.
It may be amazing in so many aspects, but the moment I heard the `crinkle`, I`m done. I move around a lot when I`m trying to get to sleep, and this would have me packing up and going home in short order. Make it silent (somehow) and I`d be all over it :)
That's the one I have it's the best mat I have and also. It is the best mat I've ever used expensive but so worth it
i dont camp in freezing cold weather so cant justify a top end mat, but need comfort as i suffer with sciatica quite a bit, so i got the unigear camfy p3 mat for 3 season use, its crazy how comfortable it is for a cheap brand, and pretty warm too for the price.
Awesome! Now I'll be wanting to spend $250 on a new sleeping pad.....lol. I currently use the Klymit V-luxe insulated sleeping pad. Comes in at just over $100 and has an R value of 5. Thanks for the video Luke, and for providing me another avenue to spend my $$$......lol.
Just so you're aware, that company lies about their R-values. Even on the carry sack you can see it. It says "5.0 R-Value (2.4 ASTM F3340-18)" That 2.4 is the actual R-value using independent ASTM testing methods designed to reflect the approximate R-value you can expect in actual use, rather than Klymit's in-house methods designed to push the number as high as possible. They don't deny this number, but they do bury it and don't tell you what the number is at every opportunity, like they're doing by sticking it beside a long string of letter and numbers on the carry sack with no indication of what any of that stuff means. They do, however, admit that the pad only has a 2.4 R-value on the pad's spec sheet on their website.
They didn't used to use ASTM testing at all until so many people started calling them out for lying because they were freezing on their pads. Then they started doing it, but the numbers weren't matching, so they continue the BS claims of high R-values and telling you the pad is ASTM rated, but they do not tell you up front that their BS rating is *not* the ASTM rating.
I have the Nemo Tensor, which is good enough for me as a 3 season, I don't really do winter backpacking. I think if someone is serious about winter backpacking or camping of some kind, then it's worth the upgrade; Like you said, Buy ONCE Cry ONCE! haha
Man, I’m a cold sleeper myself and have a Big Agnes Rapid rated at 4.2 and still get cold at times. I have purchased several pieces of gear on your recommendation so,…
Just used your link and picked one up.
Ouch!
☝️😂
Your'e not the only one to speak so highly of this pad, if I needed something for serious cold, I would spend the money.
As far as your daughter is concerned,
it's a good thing she's on our side.
I laughed so much with the "destructive force". A friend of mine is that same thing, everything he touches breaks down.
Luke i wanted to ask you, what would you recommend for winter or 3-season matress under 100$? I honestly can't find a matress with good reviews under 100$ and R-value of 4+.
Spending more than 100 dollars is already too much for me...
Tryed to find at temu or other chinese stores some alternatives, but nothing seems vfm.
Thank you in advance, and for your videos in general
I think you've lucked out. Baffles blowing out is fairly common. Had to have mine replaced twice, despite babying it. It's also not the most comfortable out there - would say it's average. Warmth though, it's up there with the best.
Air mattresses need a “CAT” rating. Just how resistant are they to punctures and abrasions?
Mattresses case abrade where they rub against cot frames and springs.
Tiny punctures are their bane - whether from something on the ground or a cat jumping onto them (let alone ‘making biscuits!).
Another pad failing is that most are quite slick. Go to sleep on the pass, wake up to find it has squirted out from under your nylon bag. IMO the old rubberized cloth air mattresses had the perfect amount of grip.”
I agree that ‘noise’ is a big deal. Mattresses should be dead silent.
With these thoughts in mind, perhaps there’s reason to make a glorified pillow case to slip the mattress into. I’d use a rough fabric, like an old potato sack.
Love my Xtherm!
The most uncomfortable mat on the market but very warm. Didnt get on with it at all
I have the xtherm max and love it. I can use my down bag as a quilt when I use the therma rest synergy sheet over the pad. Ive had it down to 28 degrees F and that pad kept me toasty warm with the sleeping bag. I'm poor but learned when it comes to things I like to buy quality. My older trail lite thermarest is still around 12 years later.
Great apart from the noise. Tried one out with ear plugs in and it was still too noisy.
Yes I’d buy it
Been using an LLbean one for four yrs now. Weighs 1lb and r rating of 3.5 works great
Does your daughter do gear reviews for those of us who are...uh...prone to destruction?
Over 20 years ago I bought a Therm a Rest self inflating pad. It is still going strong. I got my money’s worth for sure. I could sleep on concrete with it.
There is a really nice miniature air pump by Flextail on the market. Light and small, comes with adapters for the common pads..
This is what I use!
I have the 2023 version (the new one) and so far love it. I think it’s a 7.something R-Value and you can feel it as soon as you lay on it. The updated version is .5” thicker and supposedly quieter than the old one. Nemo has a comparable one now too.
Yep, I wrote up above: "the Nemo Tensor sleeping pad, which is cheaper, lighter, and quieter than the XTherm2." I don't own it though but heard of it through friends.
@@__GALLANT__ Regular Tensor has a 4.8 R value and is cheaper than X-Therm. Tensor Extreme Conditions has a 8.2 R value nan runs $250-$280.
You shouldn't blow up a pad with your mouth in the cold anyway. Introducing moisture into the pad will freeze, of course. Some may not know this.
Air-pads simply must have side-rails. Luke is small, so he can brag about durability, but that's because lightweights don't stress the baffles or the internal air-pressure limits. Wish manufacturers would publish weight-limits, because air-pads definitely have weight restrictions. Pads without side-rails are like sleeping on a balloon; it's a constant balancing act all night long. Can't say there's a great solution out there yet. Maybe Sea-to-Summit's 4" pad? It at least survived one night and was reasonably comfortable. As to R-value, keep in mind a large portion of cold enters from the side-rails. X-Therm has good thermal isolation on the side-rails too, but that R7 isn't the whole story.
Your daughter should start a review channel to test to destruction Luke, She-Wolf Outdoor Gear Battle!
I asked Luke about this pad some years ago, amd when he said to go for it, I did and have not regretted it for a second after.
I would say if I was still able to backpack the long trails, I would gladly pay that price. I think the two most important things hiking are your sleeping bag and mattress pad. Everything after that is individual preference, so its importance is hard to argue.
Man, I totally get it and if I ever need to camp in like, Antarctica I might consider this thing - but $250+ for a blow-up mattress? Yeesh...
If you're car camping it's worth it to have a heavy, bulky foam pad. Had a Sea to Summit pad fail on me two weeks after I bought it. The Xtherm does have a heavier duty bottom but a foam mattress will never fail. I also had an Exped pad too and it was great. But it eventually developed a slow leak.
One of your best reviews. Thanks.
Great info. I’ve always questioned the expense of Thermarest products, but if the quality is truly there, I may dive in. I don’t mind paying more for quality. Thanks for the reviews and insight. Big fan!
I have had mine for at least 6 years now still works like a champ i kept my old school heavy thermarests as under padding in my roof too tents
I’ll back you up with this Luke, I have the exact same one. In fact, I got a slow leak somewhere on my original mat and sent it back to Therm-a-rest and they sent me a brand new one, no questions asked 👍👍👍
The sleeping pad i use is a Thermarest Ridgerest XL. It doesn't use air. Nice 3 season pad. Product lasts well, and because of its high quality, you can find them at thrift stores and garege sales. Got a self inflatable Thermarest pad that way.
they should make a Lays edition
Try the Basecamp self inflating pad from Thermarest. It is bulky but it's incredibly warm.
Please review the LIGHTTOUR R 5.8. They say it's the thermarest killer at a very low cost. Thank you.
I’ve got the newer version & the Big Agnes rapide SL, honestly these days I need comfort, the rapide SL might not be as warm or light but it’s 10 times more comfortable than the thermarest.
Why not the Exped 8R with the pump sack?
I prefer to inflate with a small Flextail portable pump/power bank unit. Does it have a big enough inflation port to avoid having to blow lung moisture into my air mattress, which may freeze later and cause problems.
The "TINY PUMP X - 3-in-1 Rechargeable Mini Air Pump" for 29.99?
How is their warranty policy like ? I love my Nemo Tensor but it popped and leaked recently but Nemo made good their lifetime warranty by offering to replace a new one without question asked
How does it compare with the Windhike/Flaming Creed/Naturehike Light Tour R 5.8 mattress?
I guess it should be warmer...but the super expensive price, ouch - and my bad experience trying to fix an older Therm-a-rest Trail Pro makes me really wary of them now. It's almost impossible to fix the older self-inflating mattresses in the field - their field repair kit is terrible. No 'tape it up' at all, which is amazing for a mattress intended for hiking where you likely don't have a specialist shop on tap.
I'm considering getting this based on what I'm seeing here. Here is a question for you. Does the Flex tail Zero pump fit on this thing? That also looked like a really good product. I'm trying to get a sense of what would be good gear for motorcycle camping. I'm really liking the channel by the way. I'm currently binge watching a bunch of stuff on here. It's crazy how many videos you have here.
Hi Luke, I wonder if this would work well in a van that you live in year round? I would like to try it. I hear you are considering working on some rapper music. If you do, that would be such fun. Maybe Susie could get in on it. You guys are so much fun. By the way, I agree Tony should name his camper Tug Tug. You guys are such fun. LOL 😂❤
For cold weather, the Therm-a-Rest is easily the best inflatable air matress on the market but as for the other 3 seasons? My KingCamp 3" Lightweight Air Mattress(the Charcoal color one) that I paid $37.99 for a couple years ago, has exceeded my expectations in every way for comfort, weight(1.85 lb/840g) and durability. It's quiet and it never bottoms out. I've paid a lot more for a lot less satisfaction in the past, that's for sure! 😄
I have a specific question... How does this compare to the Zenbivy sleeping pad? People like yourself do reviews of sleep pads but never include the Zenbivy one... While at the same time, when the Zenbivy bed (any version) gets reviewed they include the pad but never say whether they would buy the Zenbivy or use an alternative instead with the Zenbivy bed.
So how do you find this pad compares to the Zenbivy sleep pad and would you use this mat with the Zenbivy beds?
Great review. You mentioned about the noise that produce by the movement 👍🏼
the x-therm NXT is the sleeping pad in my SHTF kit. it actually feels too warm if it’s not cold out. but I’d rather deal with being warm in my tent than freeze when it’s cold
The Exped Downmats are still offered by Exped. They have changed somewhat over time, (I have the DownMat with built-in pump - no longer made). They are similarly priced, similar R value, slightly thicker, vertical air beams, silent though are slightly larger and heavier when deflated. Very durable - also a great alternative. Not knocking Therm-a-rest as I too have their Neo-air pads, just offering another choice.
Exped is the way to go, silent sleep compared to the chip bag.
Love my downmat 7
I am having a few EXPED DURA 8R mats (both, in MW and in LW)... so far no complaints... anyone having issues with it?
You guys south of the boarder are so lucky. I just spent $364 plus 12% tax on an xtherm nxt max.
Can anyone tells me if this pad is to be used logo side up? I honestly can't tell which is the durable side that should be down.
Thanks for the fantastic videos. I was really on the fence between this pad and the new Nemo extreme until I watched this.
I spent $245 on the Zen Bivy 3D Flex Mattress with an R value of 7.2 and It's INSANELY WARM AND COMFORTABLE but it weighs 10lbs and it's not Ideal for backing but base camp or car camping.,... The Neo-Air will be By Choice for My next pad
Therma rest definitely makes a quality product. I bought my first one back in the late 90s. And it was the highest r value pad you could get and did a lot of mountaineering. It lasted a long time and was a critical piece ofy gear. I also got the ridge rest,, still beong sold today! Even till this day a pad is a critical piece of gear,, its hard to over state its importance. So much body heat is lost to the ground. So people will pay the high price for performance and quality.
I do remember when i started to notice the price of these thing really shooting up and it really baffled me.
So it cost you about 12 dollars a year, and how many times a year you slept on it each year is divided into the equation. Even at double the original price you paid, still worth it. Buy a sleeping pad at China mart, and it's leaking air that weekend, or the next if you're careful and lucky.😂
False, in a HUGE WAY. The Nemo Tensor EC is more durable, way quieter, more comfortable, is crazy small when packed, and insanely light with an R-value of 8.5.