@@SmackyYT They can't learn mid-game, only in dedicated training sessions, but small changes in how the other team does their kickoff can make them do things they usually wouldn't though
the developer is working on a new and improved version of this, and i got word that i'd be invited to play again. let's hope the kickoffs won't get fixed though 😭
I'm a rl bot creator and yeah seer is unbelievable compared to any other bot. It has the basics of the game down to a tee. No mistakes, ever. A coding masterpiece
i definitely made the focus "trying to beat the bots", so this is very valid feedback. i understand how i could have let the AI play more, sorry about that :c
Those fake kickoffs were the sauce. It's funny that the bots were doing bump plays and full field air dribbles but they fell to kickoffs. It was too funny seeing Mertzy hit the cross bar all those times too. Pulse popped off mid game and showed the bots what it looks like to freestyle. 10/10
I really like watching people play these bots. But everyone does the same thing they just abuse the kickoff I would like to see someone win against these bots without abusing kickoff
Mertzy reach out to devs and get them to introduce this to everyone as this could be very helpful for players to train vs these AIs and would be so helpful in so many ways!
I'm wondering if Seerv6 hooks into the game process to fetch its information or if it reads the bitmap information on the frames themselves. If it reads the frames this consistency is absolutely mind boggling but if it hooks into the game engine then I could kind of see how with reinforcement learning and publicly available replays from the top 100 players with data optimization and a solid reward design you should be able to get a decently performing bot in a reasonable time span. However, the technical knowledge to get this done is very impressive on itself and I commend the creator for keeping it private. EDIT: I also wonder if the settings need to be locked for the bot or it will adapt to using different configurations and/or cars.
Why would you cut the 4 bot goals out of the 3rd game? We would like to see what the bots can do since thats the main point of the video no? Not how you guys can play xdd
When he said the screen corrupted I was like no it did not he just own goaled it am I right cuz I think he do and that’s why his teammate said there’s three ai’s now 😂
They should create AI for every rank that we can play with in Custom Games for practice Like a Silver Bot where it stays on the ground and never arials And Platinum Bots do Better Arials Then Champs with Air Dribbles and Better mechanics
Damn, I never knew Pulse MK was German, I must've actually never seen a video of him talking before, this is the first time I realised his German accent
Do the bots get to know all the coordinates, angles and velocities of entities on the field or do they also only get a 2D view from which to infer things? The former seems unfair
Also is it one hive mind controlling both players, are they independent AIs or do they have some form of communication ability as input/outputs to two separate AIs ... so many questiosn
@@rewolferThey have all of the exact info directly inputted, and each bot is individually controlled. However, the only teammate the bot ever had was itself, so it kinda “knows” what the other one will do in each scenario.
Do you want them to be some humanoid robots sitting at a desk playing looking at the screen with cameras and holding the controllers with robot hands? Otherwise, i think it quite simple to write some code that transforms frames into velocities by having the camera consistently swivel to look at the entire field. It would be some quite boring part of the code that does that.
@@barakeel I don't want anything. Doesn't have anything to do with what I want. Was a question and an opinion. My emphasis was the bots beating humans in a game is quite expected (inevitably) if they're given numbers like that directly. A robot AI in a real-world situation, on the contrary, does not have the luxury of "insider information". It has to do more work in first inferring it using computer vision (or other sensory inputs), like humans do. That was my comparison. (I don't expect that from RL bots TBH. But it's something to bear in mind when comparing with human performance - and some might not be aware of)
@@rewolfer "My emphasis was the bots beating humans in a game is quite expected (inevitably) if they're given numbers like that directly." It was far from inevitable. Why do they have to train the bots using reinforcement learning techniques for months for it to work if it were that easy? Training the bot to make the right decisions is the hard part not transforming a image to vectors. This is part is easier and less interesting.
Pretty sure there's still bots in rocket league even today about a week ago I got into a match with "players" that did perfect flicks couldn't Ariel to save their coding. Did that little jitter turn thing bots do when they don't know where to go and Where litterally called "jaun bot 1" and "jaun bot 2"
What you guys should’ve done is abused the kickoff weakness more. Like literally just let them score, so that way you get a free chance at kickoff, then if you score off kickoff, you get another chance, but if you don’t then just let them score again. That way you get more kickoff opportunities. The strat is just hope you can score more than 50% of your kickoffs.
when bot went for flip reset and actually got it😳 boys we almost where bots can almost hit flip resets(im not talking about freestyle bots just normal winning bots)
How do you get a period and like the heart in your name? Epic Games doesn't let you do it so if your using steam can you make a video on how you got it?
The actual game wasn't that close for the bots ( 2-3 ) on the ultrawide GC channel they lost 4 times in a row, I think Pulse MK and Mertzy played the bot at least 10 times
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@@SavageMarkGaming”don’t know what they fed them bros - 🤓” like shut up.
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when they learn how to counter fake kick offs they gonna be insane
and when they learn speedflip and kickoff variations
The crazy thing is they were learning mid game and countered it twice
@@SmackyYT They can't learn mid-game, only in dedicated training sessions, but small changes in how the other team does their kickoff can make them do things they usually wouldn't though
they just need to learn backboard defense and have better demo awareness then they're unstoppable
the developer is working on a new and improved version of this, and i got word that i'd be invited to play again. let's hope the kickoffs won't get fixed though 😭
I'm a rl bot creator and yeah seer is unbelievable compared to any other bot. It has the basics of the game down to a tee. No mistakes, ever. A coding masterpiece
Idk might be real people but the 0 ping idk
@@Acrientz The way they are moving, those are definitely not real people
@@Acrientz0 ping litteraly mean they're bot...
@@cyruslobdand the banner lol
@@Acrientzthere is a huge comunity about creating these bots and seer won their ai tournament so definetly not a human
Merzy: I’m terrible at passing on the fake kickoff so I’m glad I’m shooting this one
Also Mertzy: missed one pass and 4 shots
4:18 Damn, it's so sad that the footage CLEARLY gets corrupted with absolutely NO MISTAKES happening behind the black screen. Really sad indeed.
Seems like a solid way to train when you’re kinda just mindlessly messing around in training.
why do you cut out every time the bot does something I want to see how good the bot is
@@sebseb6799 I'll check it out thanks
i definitely made the focus "trying to beat the bots", so this is very valid feedback. i understand how i could have let the AI play more, sorry about that :c
@MERTZY it's okay Mertzy, I still enjoyed the video
i agree, terrible editing.
@@MERTZY i agree, terrible editing.it's like going to paris to see the eiffel tower but the guide takes me everywhere but the eiffel tower.
Imagine these bots if they were actually programmed to play 2's, they literally do nothing but solo plays so it's clear they're 1's bots
Bots: Air dribble bumps
Mertzy and Mk: That's cringe
Also Mertzy and Mk: demos bot every few seconds
Those fake kickoffs were the sauce. It's funny that the bots were doing bump plays and full field air dribbles but they fell to kickoffs. It was too funny seeing Mertzy hit the cross bar all those times too. Pulse popped off mid game and showed the bots what it looks like to freestyle. 10/10
Hey mertzy, thanks for going easy on the bots so they don’t look bad!
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13:41 that save was quite impressive.
Literally every Diamond 2 match this season has that save all day long
@@shootymcsnipe3622 lmfao no they don't
Tbh we need bots like these in the higher ranks🔥
What a great video. Really like the vibe that you crafted with this video. Music choices and audio balancing was perfect.
I really like watching people play these bots. But everyone does the same thing they just abuse the kickoff I would like to see someone win against these bots without abusing kickoff
have we considered that maybe bots aren't getting better, but everyone else is just getting worse?
🤔
@@MERTZYbro probably thinking "dam thats deep" 😮
So we need one of the old pros like Fairypeek or Scrubkilla to beat the bot?
Hmmm
Everyone is getting better. The skills needed to rank up past champ have drastically increased over the years.
5:49 138 ball touches! The bot went crazy!
Mertzy reach out to devs and get them to introduce this to everyone as this could be very helpful for players to train vs these AIs and would be so helpful in so many ways!
2:40 THE BOT WENT FOR A FLIP RESET HELLO???
dude ik i'm surprised no-one else saw that
that is what made me think they were being trolled lmao but nah
Those bots are becoming so good, pretty soon "bot" is not going to be an insult but a compliment.
I'm wondering if Seerv6 hooks into the game process to fetch its information or if it reads the bitmap information on the frames themselves. If it reads the frames this consistency is absolutely mind boggling but if it hooks into the game engine then I could kind of see how with reinforcement learning and publicly available replays from the top 100 players with data optimization and a solid reward design you should be able to get a decently performing bot in a reasonable time span.
However, the technical knowledge to get this done is very impressive on itself and I commend the creator for keeping it private.
EDIT: I also wonder if the settings need to be locked for the bot or it will adapt to using different configurations and/or cars.
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Exactly what I was thinking. To be fair bots need to have the same amount of informations has human so only the frames
@@Stevenforclazalso they need to play with a controller or keyboard
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ur videos make my day
Thanks for dropping non stop
4:26 ¨We have 3 bots in the lobby now¨
- M.K 2023
Why would you cut the 4 bot goals out of the 3rd game? We would like to see what the bots can do since thats the main point of the video no? Not how you guys can play xdd
4:09 that bot straight up backflipped to get into position quicker. I don't even see people do that in GC
I can't stop laughing at those "Yiaygh!" sounds of flicks :D made my day
next you guys have to freestyle on them 🔥
W mert get to 1.5 mil in no time💯💯
When he said the screen corrupted I was like no it did not he just own goaled it am I right cuz I think he do and that’s why his teammate said there’s three ai’s now 😂
Bro everyone caught that are you dumb?
7:20 7:20 7:21 😊 7:22 7:22 7:22 7:22 7:23 7:23 7:23 7:23 7:23 7:23 7:24 7:24 7:24 7:24 7:24 7:24 7:25 7:25 what a goal😮
I can't wait to be able to play them and practice vs higher level competition
I'd say the bot is exactly what it was programed to do. Challenge the best players in the world but not be impossible
Isn‘t it weird to talk in english with MK, even though you could easily speak german together? Hahaha
His main audience connects through English
I knew I heard that German accent! Wasn't sure tho
Now imagine if the bots did passing plays…
i feel like the game would eventually get a lot more vertical
There is a bot that does that. I think its called Hex or something. Its a 3s bot but its coordinated to do all sorts of stuff
Also hivemind
mertzy 1v1 me.
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bruh wtf was that edit on 7:00 like they scored 4 and u just cut it out? tf is that
They should create AI for every rank that we can play with in Custom Games for practice
Like a Silver Bot where it stays on the ground and never arials
And Platinum Bots do Better Arials
Then Champs with Air Dribbles and Better mechanics
its an AI that will keep on learning from it mistakes so soon enough you'll have a perfect AI that in theory should never lose.
It’s the cracks when the bots flick that gets me 😂
Ok honestly the bots air-dribble bumps reminded me of Sunless :D
The bots must have learned from Leth and his flicks.
I like these humanity vs AI moments.
Unfortunately, someday, AI will be 100% unbeatable.
4:06 why bot have name of mk?
Damn, I never knew Pulse MK was German, I must've actually never seen a video of him talking before, this is the first time I realised his German accent
Thanks someone noticed
Reminds me of stock fish beating chess pros. Tech is getting scary
6:30 why cut The video i wanna see The bot air dribble
The goat of rocket league
Imagine if only 1,000 people played this game and the devs just added bots and thats all you basically play against 🗿👀
hey Mertzy thanks for this educational video about rocket league bots
bro, those bones sounds, it s make me crazy everytime, i will die🤣🤣🤣
5:42 had me laughing 😂
PLOT TWIST: It's actually ZEN and his twin brother pretending to be bots.
I want these bots to play against to get better this is awesome
man i thought its just an Rl video but is with MK 😎
Where did u g’et that ssg decal from? It looks insane
Loved the Letterkenny reference.
mertzy rlly hit the inshallah flick
i bet this was secretly a scenario to make the bots play against pros to be better then them in the future
4:59 Why is the background saying 'In sha Allah'?
Close to 1.5MIL :OOO
Ai is getting scary that it can mimic a pro rocket league player is crazy. How is this possible genuinely curious
I think it has learning technology, so when it does a good action it heightens the mathematics for the action and the opposite for a lower action
I hope Don Robbies image was used with his consent. The Don cannot be shamed like this
I wonder what the total score was if took away all the cheese tip offs u used against an AI that doesn’t adapt
Do the bots get to know all the coordinates, angles and velocities of entities on the field or do they also only get a 2D view from which to infer things?
The former seems unfair
Also is it one hive mind controlling both players, are they independent AIs or do they have some form of communication ability as input/outputs to two separate AIs ... so many questiosn
@@rewolferThey have all of the exact info directly inputted, and each bot is individually controlled. However, the only teammate the bot ever had was itself, so it kinda “knows” what the other one will do in each scenario.
Do you want them to be some humanoid robots sitting at a desk playing looking at the screen with cameras and
holding the controllers with robot hands? Otherwise, i think it quite simple to write some code that transforms frames into velocities by having the camera consistently swivel to look at the entire field. It would be some quite boring part of the code that does that.
@@barakeel I don't want anything. Doesn't have anything to do with what I want. Was a question and an opinion.
My emphasis was the bots beating humans in a game is quite expected (inevitably) if they're given numbers like that directly.
A robot AI in a real-world situation, on the contrary, does not have the luxury of "insider information". It has to do more work in first inferring it using computer vision (or other sensory inputs), like humans do.
That was my comparison.
(I don't expect that from RL bots TBH. But it's something to bear in mind when comparing with human performance - and some might not be aware of)
@@rewolfer "My emphasis was the bots beating humans in a game is quite expected (inevitably) if they're given numbers like that directly." It was far from inevitable. Why do they have to train the bots using reinforcement learning techniques for months for it to work if it were that easy? Training the bot to make the right decisions is the hard part not transforming a image to vectors. This is part is easier and less interesting.
4:59 why Ronald say Inshallah 😂😂😂😂
thank god the developer didnt teach them how to fake, just image how embarrassing it would be to get faked by a bot lol
Imagine this is a prank and those weren’t bots and were actual players
Pretty sure there's still bots in rocket league even today about a week ago I got into a match with "players" that did perfect flicks couldn't Ariel to save their coding. Did that little jitter turn thing bots do when they don't know where to go and Where litterally called "jaun bot 1" and "jaun bot 2"
It's kinda scary how good they are
Welp. It’s official rocket league is no longer gonna remain the last game without unbeatable cheaters.. feelsbadman
why did you cut the four goals out?
some time ago i liked to play against bots in unfair then one time i changed it and the bots starting dribbling in the air?
thank god OpenAI didn't make bots for Rocket League or no one will be able to defeat it like what happened in Dota 2 💀
12:35 need to program the bots to be toxic
This would be so useful
I mean Lethamyr has beaten thesebots but those were also more high scoring games.
What you guys should’ve done is abused the kickoff weakness more. Like literally just let them score, so that way you get a free chance at kickoff, then if you score off kickoff, you get another chance, but if you don’t then just let them score again. That way you get more kickoff opportunities. The strat is just hope you can score more than 50% of your kickoffs.
This are the bots we need on training
I wanna see a full pro team 3v3 a team of these ai
There's a video of that already, I'm not sure but maybe on Leth's channel. The pros beat them easily
How did he get the black infiniums to show on the bots
when bot went for flip reset and actually got it😳
boys we almost where bots can almost hit flip resets(im not talking about freestyle bots just normal winning bots)
How do you get a period and like the heart in your name? Epic Games doesn't let you do it so if your using steam can you make a video on how you got it?
PulseMK & JZR next 🤖💪😤💯
It’s not programming. It’s machine learning from inputting data from high level gameplay.
mertzy throwing lmao
did the second goal happen because when he said it cut off
These edits and malfunction seem sus
"CAR FOOTBALL" is crazy lmao 🤣
Pulse mk is using what banner?
**SPOILER ALERT** 10:37 i guess mcqueen was right lol
The actual game wasn't that close for the bots ( 2-3 ) on the ultrawide GC channel
they lost 4 times in a row, I think Pulse MK and Mertzy played the bot at least 10 times
How do you do when you score a goal facing your car?
bros forgot they were freestylers for a moment there
Outro song ID?
man i wanna see the goals the bots make. how am i suposed to know how good they are if i cant see le goals. (i dont play RL)
you should play aginst v4(it def didnt beat leth a few times)
God bless everyone and have a good day ❤
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This massive german accent