For those who can't find Utsushi True Mask or Arc Armor, that's probably because you're using a female character Basically, Utsushi True Mask = Channeller (Spring) Arc Armor = Strorge Armor
@@lecommenter8528 like the actual headpiece counterpart with the same skills as the male one was the amor set before the channeler but it doesnt come with attack boost 2 but it had the right deco type
You put wex 2 2/1 but that doesn't work for the raw spread 3 lbg, budget version asks for a wex 2 level 3 slot which is not budget in any way shape or form...
After trying the budget spread 3 LBG build, can say I definitely need evade extender in there. Feels like I'm fat rolling in a soulsborne game with base roll. Not even close to being about to dodge a lot of monsters attacks. Though I am bad with using the silkbind evades. Need a charm with a 3 slot too for the spread deco with budget build, which I'm lacking after 250+ hours still.
MH I-frames are MUCH less forgiving than soulsborne s so I don't know what you're talking about. Elden Ring med/light roll gives 27 s compared to MH:R's base 4
Finally, the video i've been waiting for, highly appreciated man! Keep up the good work, your MH content is amazing, you're my nr.1 go to guy for bowgun info.
I'm trying to do the Pierce 3 min-max build at 1:39 , but it seems like even if I have the exact charm and gear, I can't seem to get the skills that were shown. Am I missing something obvious? I filled in everything else with decos, but in the end I either can only get lvl 1 Ballistics or only level 2 Max Might. It felt strange cuz it only has 5 level 1 slots even with the Attack 3 Wex 2 3-1-1 charm, so I had to eat into one of the level 2's for my last point of recoil/reload, and I felt like that's what made the difference, but how would you fit all of this in even if you had the exact charm as shown on the imgur?
Just to list the specifics, with this set, if you have no deco set, you're missing 1 Pierce Up, 1 WEX, 1 Max Might, 2 Crit Boost, 2 Ballistics, and 3 Reload + 3 Recoil compared to what's shown. So you need 1 lvl 3 deco slot, 6 lvl 2 deco slot, 6 lvl 1 deco slot. But the set only have 2 lvl 3 deco slot, 5 lvl 2 deco slot, and 5 lvl 1 deco slot. So it ends up you either slot in all the lvl 2/3 decos and end up missing one of the lvl 1 decos for recoil/reload, or you use one of the lvl 2 deco slot for that, and lose one of the lvl 2 skills like max might or ballistics
It's a little extra work but sorta have to look at the skills you have with just the armor and then use process of elimination to get the decos being used based on the full skill list being shown
@@Sonicrida yeah I mostly wanted to wishlist everything in advance to have a neat list. Feel like listing the decos in the build wouldn't have been much effort vs having to deduce what they are once I have the whole equipment set myself. Oh well, I'll live with it.
That's the Counter Mines (called Wyvern Counter) switch skill, costs 1 wirebug and costs no stamina. You unlock it after doing 2 quests at MR4 I believe
Didn't Element exploit only trigger on very niche elemental hitzones? Like... I think the only shot type weak hitzone that also has 30 element weakness was rajang's head but that's it...
Looking forward to more videos, dude! Always love 'em! Also, why is RF Elemental Pierce a trap? Is it just better to stick with RF Elemental and Non-RF Elemental Pierce?
@@nuke2099 Yeah, I've finally put together some endgame Elemental LBG sets, and they're all based around RF Elemental Pierce. They absolutely shred monsters, it's ridiculous. And I don't mind sacrificing a bit of damage-per-second for better damage-per-shot.
What is your opinion on the Royal LBG? I'd like to build a set around it, but as someone who is not great at understanding the math around it all, and is a rather filthy casual when it comes to soloing monsters, what sounds good on paper may not actually be how it works in the game and I may not perform as well as I might be performing if building correctly.
Happened to be working on a thunder LBG set to farm final boss right when I saw this dropped. Seems I fell for the trap and made Astalos LBG for the rapid rife thunder pierce though...
for the final boss rapid fire might not out dps the single fire but it is more ammo efficient for total damage. you will have to see how it fares in the fight because you might be able to get away with one less farcaster. in any case HBG elemental is much better for the final boss
Wow, you are cranking these out! Hope you're still having fun with the game. Considering everything you've dealt with, don't be afraid to take a break. You've already put out a ton of helpful info, imo. Course, I'm just a stranger on the internet, you know you best. Cheers!
What about the new tune up skill with long barrel i use it on my spread 3 lbg build instead of ballistics and it works just fine for me i get about the same critical range
Alright i know everyone seems to have a WEx2 + 1x2slot (atleast) charm but how the fuk does it not happen for me :(? I’ve farmed them for like a week pretty much straight and each day atleast 4-6h :( yet nothing
Surprise, very few actual players have this. Love that a content creator is this out-of-touch and makes people feel bad for not having a "budget" charm that is a 1/11,000 chance minimum.
For the min/max Rapid Fire Pierce 2 build, I found the Scorned Mag Waist piece to be better than the Anja Coil, primarily because of Coalescence benefitting from the Frenzy buff, and the slight buff from running a red scroll.
1) I want to farm the final boss with a LBG. Angbata has a video using Astalos LBG (Piercing Thunder), but Phemeto says Piercing elemental ammo is bad. Final boss has a long body though. So which is better for farming the final boss, Phemeto's Khezu LBG build or the Astalos LBG build? 2) I notice none of the Elemental builds have Steadiness. Does that mean Elemental LBG doesn't eat for Felyne Temper and thus doesn't need to correct for the added deviation? If not Felyne Temper, then what are the best damage Dango foods to eat when farming a monster such as the final boss? Booster and which two others?
For your first question, Astalos LBG is fine for farming the last boss. If you *really* want the answer, though, its probably Astalos HBG. It's simply more damage, but you have to be willing to actually play HBG for it. Pretty sure no matter if you use Khezu LBG or Ast LBG, you're going to lose on the final boss to a proper HBG setup. If you don't care about that, then just use whatever one you want for that.
Why use Wex. You're better off stacking raw via a tune up 2, AB2 4/1/1 charm. You aren't even using critical element to justify its usage. Even then, CE is trash in Rise.
I was just testing elemental reload on LBG and I think it's bugged. It isn't giving negative levels of reload speed any more. I don't main LBG so I might be crazy, but can you check it out?
I know the Charm Max is either 4-2-1 or 4-1-1. Can a 4-1-1 roll as a 4-2 or is that second Deco capped at 1 regardless if there is a 3rd deco slot or not?
Have you considered making an endgame HBG Normal build because people might just actually want to know whats good with Normals on HBG rather than just be told that LBG is better?
Fairly positive HBG leans heavier into spread. LBG can get away with it due to more mobility. Through a Blood Rite Shielded N3 HBG would be pretty tanky, just gets far outclassed by LBG or spread HBG. Till they decide to give siege mode a faster rate of fire anyways. Than it'll probably outclass LBG via burst and staggers. Could always just post your ideas yourself as well.
imagine having god charms must be modded elemental exploit is kinda hard to use so few hitzones 25 above also I did not what u mean trap for narwa lbg cause its thunder pierce rapid?
The min-max pierce 3 lbg set is illegal unless you mod in a 4-1-1 attack3 we2 talisman so that you can run ballistics 4 deco.
For those who can't find Utsushi True Mask or Arc Armor, that's probably because you're using a female character
Basically,
Utsushi True Mask = Channeller (Spring)
Arc Armor = Strorge Armor
Not all heroes wear capes
@@nsfw205 some wear anime pfp
im a bit confused because the channeler spring helm doesnt have the same deco slot type as the utsushi true mask and the same skills
@@GrumpyCunt i had a similar problem. I think it was medium instead. Just look for head piece with 2 spare shot iirc
@@lecommenter8528 like the actual headpiece counterpart with the same skills as the male one was the amor set before the channeler but it doesnt come with attack boost 2 but it had the right deco type
You put wex 2 2/1 but that doesn't work for the raw spread 3 lbg, budget version asks for a wex 2 level 3 slot which is not budget in any way shape or form...
You dont need wex in particoular, you can gem wex in
@@Dukemon94 that’s not the issue. The issue is that you don’t have room for Spread Up lv3
After trying the budget spread 3 LBG build, can say I definitely need evade extender in there. Feels like I'm fat rolling in a soulsborne game with base roll. Not even close to being about to dodge a lot of monsters attacks. Though I am bad with using the silkbind evades. Need a charm with a 3 slot too for the spread deco with budget build, which I'm lacking after 250+ hours still.
MH I-frames are MUCH less forgiving than soulsborne s so I don't know what you're talking about. Elden Ring med/light roll gives 27 s compared to MH:R's base 4
@@cyranis4855 its for cheaters, you wont be even close to these without modding it in, its near impossible to get that legit.
@@theMisfit81 I got a 3 slot 3 attack, but thats my peak!
i love how the “budget” set has a wex2 level 3 slot charm... cuz rng gave all of us that 🙄
Lol I got one yesterday. Wex 2 3-1 isn't all that rare. Just keep farming lol.
@@arshadzaidi4667 200 hours still only wex 2 2-1
@@savage4033 I'm at 400 and I have 2 of them lol. Not to mention most of the builds only really require wex 2 2-1. The 3 slot isn't that essential.
@@arshadzaidi4667 I have 800 hours in the game and i still haven’t seen such a charm xd.
Just make a slightly worse set, youre already going for the budget option anyway
Finally, the video i've been waiting for, highly appreciated man! Keep up the good work, your MH content is amazing, you're my nr.1 go to guy for bowgun info.
If anyone is interested in getting his layered armor do the Master Arlow followers quests, after 3 or 4 of his quest you unlock that armor
you also need to do the follower quests of fiorayne for the layered armor (rathian and tobi kadachi)
Thanks man you’re really the hero we need
3:48 Elemental Bowguns
Thanks for all your hard work dude! Like everyone in the comments this is what I was waiting for.
I'm trying to do the Pierce 3 min-max build at 1:39 , but it seems like even if I have the exact charm and gear, I can't seem to get the skills that were shown. Am I missing something obvious? I filled in everything else with decos, but in the end I either can only get lvl 1 Ballistics or only level 2 Max Might. It felt strange cuz it only has 5 level 1 slots even with the Attack 3 Wex 2 3-1-1 charm, so I had to eat into one of the level 2's for my last point of recoil/reload, and I felt like that's what made the difference, but how would you fit all of this in even if you had the exact charm as shown on the imgur?
Just to list the specifics, with this set, if you have no deco set, you're missing 1 Pierce Up, 1 WEX, 1 Max Might, 2 Crit Boost, 2 Ballistics, and 3 Reload + 3 Recoil compared to what's shown. So you need 1 lvl 3 deco slot, 6 lvl 2 deco slot, 6 lvl 1 deco slot. But the set only have 2 lvl 3 deco slot, 5 lvl 2 deco slot, and 5 lvl 1 deco slot. So it ends up you either slot in all the lvl 2/3 decos and end up missing one of the lvl 1 decos for recoil/reload, or you use one of the lvl 2 deco slot for that, and lose one of the lvl 2 skills like max might or ballistics
Is there a video or something I missed in the community? Since when is rapid pierce elemental a trap/bad?
Very keen for Bow sets
May give LBG a go for a bit, been tearing up postgame with switch axe but feels like a time for a change for a bit.
Is there any reason you don't show any of the decos you use on the sets? Feels like I'm missing half the build and I'm confused, lol
It's a little extra work but sorta have to look at the skills you have with just the armor and then use process of elimination to get the decos being used based on the full skill list being shown
@@Sonicrida yeah I mostly wanted to wishlist everything in advance to have a neat list. Feel like listing the decos in the build wouldn't have been much effort vs having to deduce what they are once I have the whole equipment set myself. Oh well, I'll live with it.
Then look back at the build and fill in the missing slots, it's not rocket science.
@@MrInsiipid No, but it's annoying to have to do when the build could've included them in the first place.
@@MetroidFission if you need help let me know and I can try to figure out the decos for you
dam you cranking these sets and numbers like candy.
So even with an ab3 wex2 311 charm you can’t make the pierce 3 LBG set, it’s missing a level of either recoil down or reload speed.
Been playing for hundreds of hours. Still no WEX 2 talisman with slots. Any slots. q_q
I had many hours farming in rise to get my wex2 evex2 Talisman with 1-1.
It's such a shame that good talismans are luck-based as hell
On Tetras HBG, You need Reload Speed 3, not 2. Makes a difference with Rajang, lol
why are you using the sinister grudge tassets for the spread build? just because of the sockets?
If RF elemental pierce is a trap it's still a good one. Angbata showed that it's still decent.
Had me at entry level!!
Still in MR 1-2 on both PC and Switch profiles due to IRL and online stuff keeping me busy
Is getting higher level spare shot worth it for rf p2?
How are you fitting all those skills into the min/max Pierce 3 LBG? I cant get mine to match yours, i am missing a slot
the neck on the planner he is using is a 4/1/1 slot to get the ballistic skill wont be able to do it
:18 what is that where you glide upwards?
That's the Counter Mines (called Wyvern Counter) switch skill, costs 1 wirebug and costs no stamina. You unlock it after doing 2 quests at MR4 I believe
Hi sir , do u have a suggestion for sticky hbg? Come from iceborn and I miss safi aqua shoot is there any remplacement for it in sunbreak so far ?
is critical firepower the way to go for RF pierce 2 minmax with the malzeno gun?
Can you maybe like put charm that you didnt cheat in to the game as a build next time?
Great video. Do you suggest using critical firepower for the rapid fire pierce 2?
Didn't Element exploit only trigger on very niche elemental hitzones? Like... I think the only shot type weak hitzone that also has 30 element weakness was rajang's head but that's it...
Looking forward to more videos, dude! Always love 'em!
Also, why is RF Elemental Pierce a trap? Is it just better to stick with RF Elemental and Non-RF Elemental Pierce?
Compared to elemental hbg it lacks a ton of efr
@@lightsenpai5774 Yeah but it isn't a trap. Angbata basically proved it's still good to use on LBG.
@@nuke2099 Yeah, I've finally put together some endgame Elemental LBG sets, and they're all based around RF Elemental Pierce. They absolutely shred monsters, it's ridiculous. And I don't mind sacrificing a bit of damage-per-second for better damage-per-shot.
What is your opinion on the Royal LBG? I'd like to build a set around it, but as someone who is not great at understanding the math around it all, and is a rather filthy casual when it comes to soloing monsters, what sounds good on paper may not actually be how it works in the game and I may not perform as well as I might be performing if building correctly.
Happened to be working on a thunder LBG set to farm final boss right when I saw this dropped. Seems I fell for the trap and made Astalos LBG for the rapid rife thunder pierce though...
for the final boss rapid fire might not out dps the single fire but it is more ammo efficient for total damage. you will have to see how it fares in the fight because you might be able to get away with one less farcaster. in any case HBG elemental is much better for the final boss
It's not a trap dude.
how do you get ballistics 2 on spread 3 build???
How do RF N2 compare to just straight up N3? I've only just unlocked the endgaem and was eyeing the Astalos LBG
how does the budget rf pierce2 deco work? i cant figure it out
Seems like the attack 3, second skill 2. 4 1 1 charm isn't actually legit in the tables. Shows up as legal but can only be made with mods
Is there an alternate choice for the waist for the elemental gunning sets? For those who haven't got as far into MR6+?
Wow, you are cranking these out! Hope you're still having fun with the game. Considering everything you've dealt with, don't be afraid to take a break. You've already put out a ton of helpful info, imo.
Course, I'm just a stranger on the internet, you know you best. Cheers!
Hi! Will you cover Bow sets too?
Phemeto, how important is Bloodlust from Shagaru legs?
Also which switch skills are you using?
Hey anything for a blast based bowgun build?
so to be clear - is slicing ammo LBG 100% dead?
Could you provide the narga lbg set aswell?
I'm assuming critical element is still garbage to use?
What about the new tune up skill with long barrel i use it on my spread 3 lbg build instead of ballistics and it works just fine for me i get about the same critical range
I would have liked to watch the rest of this video, but when i saw I didn't even have anything close to the "budget" charm, I just gave up 😅
I don't understand why ballistics is important.
Alright i know everyone seems to have a WEx2 + 1x2slot (atleast) charm but how the fuk does it not happen for me :(? I’ve farmed them for like a week pretty much straight and each day atleast 4-6h :( yet nothing
i dont have one yet either 250 hours lol
Surprise, very few actual players have this. Love that a content creator is this out-of-touch and makes people feel bad for not having a "budget" charm that is a 1/11,000 chance minimum.
@@scungillimane oh wow I wasn't aware it's that rare.
Good set and bowgun for sticky 3?
He mentioned in some previous videos that stickies and slicing were nerfed for master rank so probably no sets for them
@@xemnahort2 There's plenty of sets for them. He's just not making any (yet). Real easy to find with a quick search.
If you are looking for sticky 3 set look up tatsuffy. Pretty good HBG right now with sticky, wyvern ammo, and straight shot clusters.
For the min/max Rapid Fire Pierce 2 build, I found the Scorned Mag Waist piece to be better than the Anja Coil, primarily because of Coalescence benefitting from the Frenzy buff, and the slight buff from running a red scroll.
1) I want to farm the final boss with a LBG. Angbata has a video using Astalos LBG (Piercing Thunder), but Phemeto says Piercing elemental ammo is bad. Final boss has a long body though. So which is better for farming the final boss, Phemeto's Khezu LBG build or the Astalos LBG build?
2) I notice none of the Elemental builds have Steadiness. Does that mean Elemental LBG doesn't eat for Felyne Temper and thus doesn't need to correct for the added deviation? If not Felyne Temper, then what are the best damage Dango foods to eat when farming a monster such as the final boss? Booster and which two others?
For your first question, Astalos LBG is fine for farming the last boss. If you *really* want the answer, though, its probably Astalos HBG. It's simply more damage, but you have to be willing to actually play HBG for it. Pretty sure no matter if you use Khezu LBG or Ast LBG, you're going to lose on the final boss to a proper HBG setup. If you don't care about that, then just use whatever one you want for that.
Why use Wex. You're better off stacking raw via a tune up 2, AB2 4/1/1 charm. You aren't even using critical element to justify its usage. Even then, CE is trash in Rise.
I was just testing elemental reload on LBG and I think it's bugged. It isn't giving negative levels of reload speed any more. I don't main LBG so I might be crazy, but can you check it out?
I know the Charm Max is either 4-2-1 or 4-1-1.
Can a 4-1-1 roll as a 4-2 or is that second Deco capped at 1 regardless if there is a 3rd deco slot or not?
Thanks Phem
No dereliction builds for rfp2? You also get raw from dereliction for being on the blue scroll
Have you considered making an endgame HBG Normal build because people might just actually want to know whats good with Normals on HBG rather than just be told that LBG is better?
Fairly positive HBG leans heavier into spread. LBG can get away with it due to more mobility. Through a Blood Rite Shielded N3 HBG would be pretty tanky, just gets far outclassed by LBG or spread HBG.
Till they decide to give siege mode a faster rate of fire anyways. Than it'll probably outclass LBG via burst and staggers.
Could always just post your ideas yourself as well.
imagine having god charms must be modded elemental exploit is kinda hard to use so few hitzones 25 above also I did not what u mean trap for narwa lbg cause its thunder pierce rapid?
hr350 and always melding talisman on every quest and never come close to that budget charm lol
play legit ,budget version,play with hackcharm play minmax version
Amen, brother.