My wife divorced me. I slept in my car for 8yrs to pay my child support. Never for one second did I think about hurting her or anyone. This lady is a narcissist
@@kristinasullivan9436 It didn’t feel incredible. Now I live in a 400sq ft home paid cash. My daughter is now 30yrs old The other day she called and asked to borrow $3000. I said u don’t have to pay me back, Christmas present. Life goes fast.
@@PInk77W1 I'm sure it didn't feel incredible to live in your car for that period of time. . My thought was it was incredible you did that for her when most men don't pay child support or come up with excuses as to why they can't. My Dad never knew his biological father but met him when he was 14. The man never paid a dime of child support or tried to have a relationship with him. Giving her the money was very sweet! If I needed help my parents would do the same :)
Not only is she crazy but check out her audience! They're all "wow", she talks to the Lord and angels all the time! Laughing with her when she mentioned she had to Kill her husband. She is locked up but how many of these people are left roaming around?
That guy said, Can I say something. Lol. He said Mr Nelson's wife wrote that God visits and has asked her to leave the room. What would God need to hide ? Lol
She quotes the scriptures telling her to kill Mr Ryan but no where in the king James or book of mormon states to do this. So what scripture is she reading? Lead me to it for I don't believe those words exist.
When I hear this my thoughts go to Charles pleadings for help and his fear for the childrens welfare! Bless you Charles for your goodness and efforts 🙏!
I’m thinking that Charles got sucked in by Lori’s scathing rumors and lies about Joe. I wonder, did he ever think about Joe when accusations were thrown his way by his crazy wife. Too bad, he didn’t realize her lies long ago.
There was way too much time after he died that they found him. And instead of his sister being contacted it was his Ex wife Lori who had him cremated and it’s just too late to find evidence. She is the one who called and had them go check on him same as she did with her brother. She’s a BLACK widow.
@@bettebyrd From what I read it was his neighbor who found him, because his dog acted suspiciously in front of his appartment. Lori didn't call police to check on him. She and Joe had been estranged for a couple of years.
TUESDAY, May 1 (HealthDay News) -- Taser guns used by law enforcement can cause heart rhythm problems, sudden cardiac arrest and death, according to a new study. Ryan did complain about heart pains, after the incident. Could this incident cause damage to the heart and eventually lead to a future cardiac arrest? Did Joe Ryan have a heart condition before he was tased. What was his heath condition.before being tased? Was Joe tased before his death? Probably an autopsy would not know if Joe was tased or not after 5 days of decomposition. Lori did not say anything to Anne Cushing, Joe Ryan's sister, that Joe was deceased. Why, I ask? Lori withholds a lot of info. My gut says lori is responsible for Joe's death. Dammit. It's a conspiracy. Started with Joe Ryan down to Charles, Tammy, JJ and Tylee. Maybe, even Alex. Or, did Alex commit suicide?
They believe Joseph Smith , know and prosecuted fraud , is their savior . What more needs to be said ? It’s not a far leap. In the USA you have the right to believe whatever you want but it doesn’t make you right .
Her mouth is open....of course she's lying. That's how you tell. When her mouth is moving..she's lying!! When one starts to compare themselves to God and being like him, talking to him, angels coming and putting stuff in her inbox while she takes a hot bubble bath...not praying to God to teach her how to figure it out...she's Lori...she just says..Hey angels..I'm going to the temple tomorrow if you wanna go, type your stuff out and put it in my inbox..I'll be in the bath??!! . Not only does she tell in lies about whatever suits her...she talks like a crazy person...don't be deceived or think the LDS church believes or teaches any of this...it's the Church according to Lori Vallow...and Chad Daybell...he's a whacko but I think she's a black widow whose been spinning a web for a very long time. .
@@chattygabby1 You nailed it! The first thing that HaSatan told Eve was that YHWH didn't mean what HE said,(she wouldn't die), & then HaSatan 'revealed' what YHWH didn't want her to know, (she would be like a god)! In layman's terms, HaSatan changed YHWH's WORD! And because it sounded better to Eve, it fit her narrative and allowed her to do what she wanted to do, (although it was wrong, she loved & preferred HaSatan's lie). HaSatan is oh so clever and he is residing quite well among any and ALL churches who have 'blended' YHWH's WORD with HaSaTan's word & call it truth! They do these things in YHWH's name, (they call HIM god, yet they do not know HIS name), but it is not what YHWH said! 98% of the churches are, in fact, guilty of changing YHWH's Hebrew Word, adding new words & books, and/or teaching doctrine that is peppered w/falsehoods that make it a lie no matter how little those lies are sprinkled throughout! So, yes, a member of a congregation begins with a church's doctrine that may be 'close' to YHWH's WORD, (that doesn't mean it isn't corrupted, i.e., translated versions & doctrines that 'sprung up in other locations' but did not originate from the Hebrew). And then that member embellishes in changing the doctrine to fit their own needs, wants and desires. When it goes to this level of nefariousness, all the while, that person claims & declares their 'belief' in god's name; But please notice that I did not capitalize god, because there are many false gods, but there is only ONE, who spoke in Hebrew and everything was, and HIS Word, HIS TRUTH cannot produce anything that is evil! People compromise truth and change it to fit their own needs.Period! YHWH HATES LIARS! And if anyone thinks that a 'white lie' isn't important or wrong, they better wake up! The more a person lies or is complicit about small lies,(does santa clause, the easter bunny & the tooth fairy ring any truth bells?), the more desensitized they become! A liar is a thief, (the first thing they steal is the truth), and a thief will murder to cover their deceptions & robberies! Anyhoot, HaSatan achieves his goals through false doctrines that he camouflages in the churches, appears to people & they perceive him as 'an angel, their dead grandma or other relative', or what they perceive is the voice of god,(but had they read YHWH"s WORD, they would know that HE outlawed any of the 'dead' to return before HE resurrects them and identified these 'spirits' for what they are, demonic!), and HaSatan uses his recognizable tactics in the secular society that he doesn't try to disguise! Either way, HaSatan beguiles & moves people away from YHWH, causes them to mock & blame HIM & declare that HE doesn't exist; this fits their lives and justifies their desires so they do not need to reverence HIM or have HIM as an authority over their lives! Yes, it is really that simple. You cannot recognize the enemy if you think & believe that he is your friend! Lori is guilty of this and her murderous actions are mind twisting! Their self serving narrative, delivered by HaSatan, himself, made them godlike and above the law, chosen to lead through adultery, robbery, deception, & murder! It all started with a lie, folks, & everyone needs to really think about that and allow it to resonate. Think you cannot be manipulated into loving a lie? Think your churches are teaching the WORD OF GOD? Which god? Few hints: YHWH hates your christmas' and your easter! Do your homework because if you do not stand for truth, you'll fall for any lie! A word to the wise is sufficient! Lastly, A thief doesn't rob an empty house! You are very valuable to YHWH! So valuable that HE sent HIS LIVING WORD, Yehoshua, in the flesh, and died for you to fulfill THE LAW! There is no love without law and there is no law without love. Shalom
She sure was talking and thinking crazy. Mental illness slowly creeping up on this woman through out her life. She said herself that “Satan” has been torturing her since a little girl.
I do believe that Lori was crazy before she met Chad. But chad is there during this recording. This was probably recorded when Lori had all those people over her house when Charles was out of town. Melanie Gibb said they were all there at Lori’s house at some point without Charles because he was away on business
But notice no one in that room vocalized dismay or disagreement with her thought process about her beliefs and understanding of the Book of Mormon - the right to murder someone after 3 times. How many Lori & Chad Daybells are out there?
@@CatholicHousewife2017 I can guarantee at least one person was thinking it! I’m a Latter-Day Saint and, while I’ve never heard anything quite that shockingly whack-a-doodle, I feel like I’m with crazy people when they start talking about “energy healing.”
She's been fooled and was carrying out the Devils plans and the dark spirits she thought were Angel's. JESUS would never tell you to KILL. THOU SHALT NOT KILL !
Annette Herrera I hav thought from the beginning that Lori projected her own sexual abuse by her father onto her husbands. Sadly Tylee and Cody were in the middle of total insanity. When Lori referred to being tortured as a child by Satan, this is what I think she’s referring to-
@@paulaoppedisano3685 Charles was there as well. If he found Lori crazy to the point of harming their (and also his) children he should have intervened. He did try to have her mentally evaluated in January 2019 when she threatened to kill him and revealed all her religious delusions to him.
Well Lori murdering your kids is against every religion so you’re clearly not “chosen,” you’re just crazy. Rest In Peace Tylee,Jj,Charles,and Tammy and Joe. ❤️
At 4:06 she admits planning and wanting to kill her 3rd husband. Wow. The prosecutors are going to have a field day with this audio. The part that baffles me is how anyone of sound mind could sit and listen to her drone on for almost 45 minutes about her delusions & conversations with Jesus and angels after they heard her claim she wanted to commit revenge murder. No one with murder in their heart is close to God.
I don’t believe that Satan is able to influence anyone. People are evil enough to do these types of things on their own. This woman is evil and blaming Satan isn’t the right approach. That off puts the evil in her own heart, her own evil desires aside, and blames satan for influencing her. She did these evil things. She is satan herself.
@@scottconway1194 ....yeah, I get that. I guess I look at life this way: I have choices (free will?) to make and, everywhere I go - well, I take myself 😎 So, kinda like science principles: if I believe in a loving God (the Good) I gotta know its opposite (the bad) exists. So, I make choices. In order to choose well (toward Good) I have to prepare - I have to study the Word of God AND be willing to hear; to listen. Or, I can let fear, anxiety, “worldly” concepts run me around (the evil if ya will). Anyway....just my view AND I appreciate ya listening to me rattling on! Have a SUPERB day!! God Bless you & yours!
@@kellyford5903 very interesting discussion, this is what some people believe the true meaning of "Satan" to be. Satan represents the potential for evil which exists as a consequence of our human free will. Satan represents our worst impulses, basically: what we become if we indulge narcissistic impulses without caring for the consequences of those actions.
Does anyone believe the leader of the Mesa temple gave her, her Temple Recommend because she told him she would otherwise kill her ex husband ? She sounds so delusional my goodness.
@Solo Allen there's literally a formula!! You too can be a cult messiah! Complete with harem! Legal in Utah. I can help you write your prophecies for a nominal fee.
Doubt she'll ever have a cell mate. She'll be in protective custody the whole time. Men's prisons don't like ppl who mess with kids... (Chris Watts is in protective custody in Wisconsin for example) it's 100x worse in a women's prison. She wouldn't survive gen-pop. I wouldn't be surprised if they moved her out of state too.
Amen ! I am so concerned people will think mormonism and this offshoot of it is the same as Christianity and it is soooo far from true. Real Christians do not follow a pedophile nor another book other than the Bible. And do not murder anyone. This whole 144,000 thing drives me crazy. They are virgin Jews ,male, who will NOT be led by a woman . They will be witnesses for the real Jesus in the end times. These people have twisted everything.
I think Lori really does believe that she did no wrong. However, Chad... You can hear it in his voice when lori calls him while the authorities were finding Tylee and JJ on his property... he dont believe this crap he was manipulating others to believe IMO
@@chasity71mvp19 yes I totally agree that Lori believes her own BS and Chad sounded like he was scared sh**less on the phone that day‼️ (While she was cool as a cucumber.)
@@suzannaj3834 Right?? Wasn't that phone call weird? It was to me, her with her giggling and saying "should I pray" like she didn't know.. 🤔 wonder if she didn't know WHERE they buried the kids? Idk, she is one wicked weirdo tho
Love how she is like “I’m 45 and I have no clue how to use computers”(7:52). Then she later says (13:36)she “went home and searched the names on her family search and did some research and printed off the paperwork on her computer”.....that she said she didn’t know how to use. My gosh this whole situation makes me so sad.
Omg I'm glad somebody else realize that this breaks my heart with this evil woman did to those kids I hope she gets everything that's coming to her very soon!! And Chad too and anybody else who played a role in this craziness murderous plot!
She also says that she had planned out in advance coming to this world and later says " God, why did you send me here to fight?" No Scripture at all. Just made up fantasy stories. Sick.
I also pray that this evil be cast out this woman so she could realize all wrong doing and just sad situation all of it and has a Son still here and I'm sure has so many questions for her ..
@@marysawyer4041Justice was served. Lori got 3 life sentences on 7/31/23 and Chad got the death penalty on 6/1/24. Now Lori will be tried for the Murder of Charles.
She thinks she has the further light and knowledge no one else gets (eye roll). She has been set up to be fooled because of her narcissistic personality.
Melanie Gibb at this point was totally brainwashed too. I think this recording is going to throw her evidence into complete question. This recording has done nothing for Melanie at all. Lori and Chads lawyers will have a field day with her. When Lori says at 31:20 that if your whole family is gone that’s okay as they have chosen to leave this world. That made me feel sick. They were all agreeing. And when some woman starts to encourage people to buy Chads books, because she had bought and read 11 in 3 weeks, I listened in dismay. They are all sucked in to this dangerous world.
Pretty sure in the description it says Annie Cushing provided this recording to LE in hopes that they would reopen her brothers death and investigate Lori for his murder as well. Which ya, I think she definitely has a hand in his death and when she got away with it, it made her feel invincible.
@@SnagemSauce Annie Cushing got it from an anonymous source. Allegedly Melanie Gibb made the recording. She likely gave it to police together with other evidence when she came forward with the recording she made of Chad and Lori. Nate Eaton claimed a while ago that there were more recordings. Lori's lawyer said that this recording was not part of the discovery documents for Lori's case, so I doubt it will be brought up in court. If it was, it would only hurt Lori. An actual criminal defense attorney stated in his youtube channel that Lori's statements in this recording are not incriminating enough to be prosecutable.
As someone who was once abused by a narcissist, I'm going to pick this apart from my standpoint. To start, narcissist seek one thing and that is attention, usually admiration. Keep this in mind. 1) Narcissists project: Whatever they are guilty of, typically abusive behaviors, they will accuse someone else of. It distracts the unwary to the narc's terrible behavior that is hidden behind a mask. It also serves to alienate whomever they're projecting on. It's also a good source of attention via sympathy/empathy from others. Lori is doing this by accusing her ex of being abusive. While I can't confirm or deny that her accusations are true, they get her attention either way. 2) Narcs need to feel superior/special compared to others. This is abundant in Lori's "testimony" of experiencing angels giving her info on her genealogy, having spoken to Jesus, being one of the strongest warriors, etc. She's better than everyone else, regardless if she believes these claims or not. 3) Drawing in others and trapping them with flattery. Using her claims from point 2, Lori makes those in the church feel special because she's special. She's telling them that they're part of a very exclusive in group. By making them feel special, Lori has ensnared her fellow church goers into giving her attention. While she's convinced them that they're special, but not as special as her, they want to hang onto every word. 4) Used something pre-established to their advantage. She did this with The Church of Latter Day Saints. By manipulating what already existed with these peoples' belief, she was able to garner attention for herself. 5) Subtle boundary pushing. Narcs are VERY careful about not letting others catch a glimpse of behind their charming mask. Lori does this when she claimed that she felt as if she had to kill her ex (justifying it via scripture). When the others laughed, this gave her confirmation that the boundary of religious justified murder was one she could pass after having dug herself into the church like a tick. If there were hints of disapproval from members, I have no doubt she would've backpedalled with a self congratulatory statement such as "but I'm too strong to do so/it's not the way of the Lord/etc" to keep her clout within the group. As a note, those disturbed by the congregation's laughing response to this doesn't necessarily mean they're sociopaths like Lori; They're simply so drawn in by her superficial charm and have no doubt have their boundaries normally pushed before as to make Lori's claim seem way less extreme than it is. 6) Obvious manipulation from an outsider's perspective. Combine all of my above points and it should be easy to spot a narc that's targeted you, right? Well, not really. They're cunning people who seek to cut off their victims from the outside. Using said above points, they manipulate their victims into a warped sense of normalcy. How could someone so charming, sympathetic, and knowledgeable be bad? It's obvious to us as outsiders that her behavior is absolutely wrong, but to someone who's been slowly trapped in her honey and lies, it's not. Once the victim(s) realize what the narc is, they then feel so ashamed and such overpowering cognitive dissonance that they're afraid to speak out. By then the narc will have moved on and used their charm to convince new victims that the old victims are the crazy, abusive one(s). I hope that this makes sense!
I am reading this as a much later time but had to comment. You have described my experience with my x husband to an exact detail thank you really needed this
MG and DW were enablers for the longest time! The all believed the same crazy fantasies of being ‘the elect’ or specially chosen - MB was as deceived- hopefully she’s AWAKE now! She will have to be for the trial....... if not, she could join Lori
She was encouraging this stuff.... I think she's played a part in all, it was her mission to help Lori. She's all about telling these people how good Lori is and she's a witness to her and others
@@bevtrue6937 unless your MG or DW you don't know what they did. They maybe didn't physically kill but MG clearly knew all was going to happen. She's guilty by association and knowing and NOT saying anything until after the fact....
Yeah who would listen to this crap and take it in like it’s some sort of preaching....she’s a nut and it was clearly frighteningly evident....why was she not looked out more closely ...way earlier
When Lori talks about not sleeping, constantly being woken up by spirts, her experience with the spirts completing the family names in the computer, she sounds like Julie Rowe. Lori is using Julie’s Vernacular. It’s actually mania though - for both of them. Did Chad borrower Julie’s material to influence Lori or did Lori steel it for herself? Happy Anniversary today Lori.
dont give her the benefit of a mental condition. dont blame her behavior on mania. shes a narcissist. all those people talk in funny circles like that.. they all cant be suffering from mania as well.
@@thenuge4227 that’s why I asked if she’s been diagnosed. I agree, she’s definitely a narcissist and blames everyone else for everything in her life, but thinks she’s perfect. She lies non -stop and needs everyone to bow down to her. It’s absolutely disgusting. She’s actually extremely annoying to listen to and watch. I think she plays the victim too and is a manipulator.
Makes me nauseous - so many things about her is wrong. If one has truly experienced these extremely sacred things, they wouldn’t speak about them like this. So much of it if not all are LiES.
Why so much hating and judgment on Melanie Gibb? Yes, I believe she was influenced wrongly by Lori and probably believed many things that Lori taught that aren't true. But eventually she recognized the falsehoods, contacted and cooperated with police, and testified against Lori at trial. Lori and Chad are charasmatic and mixed truths and falsehoods in an attempt to deceive others with some success. It should be a wake up call to everyone as to who we will listen to and believe. For me, I believe that we won't be led astray if we follow the scriptures and true prophets rather than people like Lori and Chad who preach their own doctrine mingled with scripture!
@@reaganbates2802 You need to be more precise. Knowing of and accepting crazy beliefs is one thing, but knowing of murders is quite different. So far, no evidence has been presented showing that Melanie knew that Lori's children were going to be murdered. On the contrary, Lori provided Melanie with excuses for their absence. Melanie's recording of Chad and Lori only confirms that.
Shocked that more people didn’t call out the part where she says “even if you are the only one in your family left” referring to being left here to fulfill their “purpose”😳🤯🤯🤯 and seriously she says murder over and over... this is just insane
Wow. I didn't catch that. Family being shot at and even killed. I am going to be thinking more on that. It is like she is saying all of them need to be gone if they won't believe her. Oh my word.
Yes she did. AND she lied and covered for her. Had she gone to the police quickly...those kids wouldn’t be dead. She knew what happened to those who she called “zombies”. She should be prosecuted just as the whole cult should be. It’s disgusting that she is being labeled a ‘hero’ when she ONLY went to the police out of jealousy of her and Chads relationship.
This is an amazing recording, because she literally describes how she slipped into psychosis. First I must say that to me, Lori is definitely sick. She is this type of schizophren that keeps relatively the structure of her personality. In other words, such schizophrens (used to be called paraphrens) seem like they can lead their normal activities, but in parallel, they present wild delusions and hallucinations. Usually, schizophrenia starts much earlier in a life, around teenage or early adulthood. But untreated depression can lead to psychosis. In this recording, Lori tells how painful her divorce from Joseph Ryan was. In all probability, she fell into a deep depression during this process. She says so herself, how painful the process was. It seems that her religious beliefs have eventually give way for this depression to develop into something much more serious, and potentially very difficult to treat medically. Deep depression can require years to be treated with anti-depressants, sometimes 4 or 5 years. Imagine when it develops to this stage. Another striking element of the recording, is Melanie Gibb's reactions. She seems to be in such a state of admiration for Lori! She's like a very young sister listening to her big sis. To add a humorous touch to this, I particularly appreciate her feminist Jesus, who's taking the Second Comming opportunity to elevate women's priesthood to equal that of men, since his celestial wife is equal to his. I just wonder how the judean society of the 1st century would have felt about that. At least, we can all be very happy that Jesus' concerns in heaven (or on his planet) coincides with our contemporary moral values. That's very conforting to me, I must say.
She is paranoid schizophrenic with religious ( I can't remember the correct term) but yes, crazy. The elders(?) Of the church told the rest not to talk to anyone and not to volunteer anything. I believe that would of meant this as well. May she get all she deserves and may I live long enough to see it.
"Our children are here to do their own missions, and we shouldn't interfere with that." - Lori 🤦🏽 😡 Well Lori, I think it's safe to say that you interfered.
1 min 16 seconds in would have been my complete closing argument if I had been the Prosecution team....and it would have started with " In the words of the defendant herself".... 😮
She has this facade of sweetness, nonchalant attitude of others suffering by her hand, victimhood and a storyteller to hide her true devious selfish intentions. I see you Lori.
Life isn’t complicated. Follow the 10 commandments and you can’t go wrong. She violated every commandment, and came up with excuses to validate her transgressions against her spouses and her two youngest children in order to murder them. I’m glad this audio was shared, she can’t blame Chad, and Chad can’t blame her. He also, planned and plotted his wife’s demise, and murdered Lori’s children for ritualistic pleasure as the prophet of the first born church, he envisioned to build in ID. Do you hear Melanie Gibb talking? She knows more than she has shared. These people are hypocrites, talking about their secret beliefs together, but denying what they believe and practice to outsider (dark scales, zombies, castings). This is scary dangerous, and they think they are inspirational.
@@RiotHomeRecording yeah Steve, I think the other main pillar about her is about how she's come to act on, act out projection. It's remarkable in this case. Projection major force, expression in narcissists. She's had it going for years and generally as a part if her personality. It's there in the divorce papers. It got worse as the beauty faded and money for tight. But then prophesy and dark and light stuff she got into with Daybell give a her a rationale and (next) world (and previous lives) view to in order to rub out those having the evil that she has but has projected it away from herself on to them. And have it justified while she gets elevated in the power of it and specialness of having been able to see it in them, and fixing it for the Creator's plan. It's quite something.
"He was able to turn it around so the judge believed him instead of me" The judge had good reason to believe her ex. There was never any indication that he assaulted anyone. False accusers are in my mind the next most serious sin, just below murder. They destroy lives.
THIS IS MORE THAN STRANGE, BUT HER NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ON THEM, BUT SHE COULD GET INTO CHARLES VALLOWS COMPUTER AND CHANGE THE PASSWORD TO MAKE SURE THE BENEFICIARY IS HER ? HMMM.....
I can't even begin to imagine someone choosing and believing themselves to be in such a place of authority and power. Just when you think humans have hit rock bottom, someone goes deeper.
I have some things happen to me and I've had dreams and visions, but it's nothing like this. All of these lies are just too much. Who would believe this nonsense?
They are all messed up. She says she wanted to kill her husband and they laughed at that statement? How do you feel now knowing what you know. Sick people...
I made it to 5:25. I can’t listen to someone so brainwashed willingly justify being ok with killing someone if she is a believer in Jesus Christ. What evil she is, is a whole other level. She’s not crazy, she’s evil.
Joseph Ryan's sister points out possible inconsistencies in Joseph's death on her Annielytics channel and the lack of investigation by the police. If Lori had a hand in his death in April, 2018, it was definitely before meeting Chad Daybell later that year, so it was more than likely that Lori was the driving force behind all the deaths with Chad was along for the ride and the financial windfall.
I’m curious about how badly she mentally manipulated her brother, Alex. He was her puppet. I truly believe he murdered the kids and her husbands. It kept her hands and Chad’s hands somewhat “clean” and ultimately, she and Chad won’t get the sentence the public is hoping for. It’s utterly horrible.
Just taking part in it makes them guilty. You always here the driver say that I stayed in the car! I didn’t shoot! It doesn’t matter they were ALL part of it they all ALL Pay!!!
It's literally this simple People. "GOD is LOVE & if its not DIRECTING LOVE to anyone, it's NOT from GOD!!! That is my religion. "God is love & Golden Rule.
She had to look up in her scripture to show how it’s ok to murder someone if they are a pain. Well that’s against the law even if you can’t tell it’s wrong without looking it up in some weird cult book.
Taking scripture literally and puck and choose which ones would fit your crazy thinking, got you your just consequence. Happy First Anniversary in jail Mrs Daybell...... who’s smirking now?!
Maybe I missed it but I didn't hear her give a scripture reference for what she said about killing someone. I don't remember reading anything like what she said, anywhere in the Bible. What verse was she referencing?
I guess her mission was to sit poolside with Chad collecting social security and spending Tammys insurance monies in Kuyaii while her kids and Tammy were dead! The devil was dancing with her antics!
I thought all you needed for a murder case is a body, a motive and opportunity. And the Daybells certainly have all three of those. I can't understand why murder charges haven't been filed. I don't think there's any more evidence out there. Are they just waiting for one of them to turn on the other one?
I didn't realise angels can type. If I had known this before I could have given them my college essays and work reports. I am older than Lori Vallow and can use a computer and have done for decades. She is a deeply ridiculous and dangerous woman
She mentions 5 kids she was dealing with all the time at (5:45). There was colby and tylee and not sure if she had JJ at time of this recording . So who was the other 2?
Lori (super sweet warrior): I was going to murder my husband - the Scriptures said I could (giggle) Audience: oh ok (giggle) Lori: and the angels type out my work for me (giggle) Audience: oh ok (awed gasps) God: Don’t know what paths your walkin’ sister but they aint mine ...
My wife divorced me.
I slept in my car for 8yrs to pay my child support.
Never for one second did I think about hurting her or anyone.
This lady is a narcissist
Wow! You're an amazing father to sleep in your car to make your child support payments! That is incredible.
@@kristinasullivan9436
It didn’t feel incredible.
Now I live in a 400sq ft home paid cash.
My daughter is now 30yrs old
The other day she called and asked to borrow
$3000. I said u don’t have to pay me back,
Christmas present.
Life goes fast.
@@PInk77W1 I'm sure it didn't feel incredible to live in your car for that period of time. . My thought was it was incredible you did that for her when most men don't pay child support or come up with excuses as to why they can't. My Dad never knew his biological father but met him when he was 14. The man never paid a dime of child support or tried to have a relationship with him. Giving her the money was very sweet! If I needed help my parents would do the same :)
@@kristinasullivan9436 kudos to the UPBEAT DAD.
God Bless you. You are a great guy. That’s selfless love, love will always come back
Not only is she crazy but check out her audience! They're all "wow", she talks to the Lord and angels all the time! Laughing with her when she mentioned she had to Kill her husband. She is locked up but how many of these people are left roaming around?
All of them & some will get a free pass if they witness against her.
That guy said, Can I say something. Lol. He said Mr Nelson's wife wrote that God visits and has asked her to leave the room. What would God need to hide ? Lol
She is not crazy. Her audience is. She knows is. She believes nothing of what she’s preaching.
Well we know that Melanie Gibb is...she’s a psycho.
LDS and it’s offshoots are just wild.
So scary how crazy she is! She has no remorse and believes she is supposed to murder. I hope and pray she never gets out of jail!
If she gets out she better hind it's not going to be safe for her nowhere
I can hardly listen to this person. What an arrogant psychopath. ,
She quotes the scriptures telling her to kill Mr Ryan but no where in the king James or book of mormon states to do this. So what scripture is she reading? Lead me to it for I don't believe those words exist.
When I hear this my thoughts go to Charles pleadings for help and his fear for the childrens welfare! Bless you Charles for your goodness and efforts 🙏!
So true! Amen
@@jenniferlewisharris7761 And they are together now.
I’m thinking that Charles got sucked in by Lori’s scathing rumors and lies about Joe.
I wonder, did he ever think about Joe when accusations were thrown his way by his crazy wife.
Too bad, he didn’t realize her lies long ago.
Maybe the cops that closed Joe's case, saying that he just had a heart attack, will really re-look at Lori now.
A defense attorney who also does youtube said that there was nothing there for the prosecution.
There was way too much time after he died that they found him. And instead of his sister being contacted it was his Ex wife Lori who had him cremated and it’s just too late to find evidence. She is the one who called and had them go check on him same as she did with her brother. She’s a BLACK widow.
@@bettebyrd Wasn't he found by his neighbor after about a week? Not sure how long it took before Lori was notified. I'm sure an autopsy was performed.
@@bettebyrd From what I read it was his neighbor who found him, because his dog acted suspiciously in front of his appartment. Lori didn't call police to check on him. She and Joe had been estranged for a couple of years.
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Ryan did complain about heart pains, after the incident. Could this incident cause damage to the heart and eventually lead to a future cardiac arrest?
Did Joe Ryan have a heart condition before he was tased. What was his heath condition.before being tased?
Was Joe tased before his death? Probably an autopsy would not know if Joe was tased or not after 5 days of decomposition.
Lori did not say anything to Anne Cushing, Joe Ryan's sister, that Joe was deceased. Why, I ask? Lori withholds a lot of info.
My gut says lori is responsible for Joe's death. Dammit. It's a conspiracy. Started with Joe Ryan down to Charles, Tammy, JJ and Tylee. Maybe, even Alex. Or, did Alex commit suicide?
How did those people in the room believe any of that stuff...... You can tell shes making up very bizarre stories as she goes
@@BelleFleurs1
Great scripture quote. Absolutely applies to them. Very sad.
9:16 yes she is 💯 making shit up. Its obvious in her tone and her speech pattern. What a mess.
Marlene she repeated I so many times, its a wonder those buildings didn't fall down on her.
@@BelleFleurs1 the scriptures they follow are the book of mormon. They believe the bible is full of error.
@@BelleFleurs1 "Pleasure in unrighteousness." The verse feels spot-on for our times.
How does anybody believe this garbage?
How do people take meth
Or heroin.
Hysteria...and projection.
They believe Joseph Smith , know and prosecuted fraud , is their savior . What more needs to be said ? It’s not a far leap. In the USA you have the right to believe whatever you want but it doesn’t make you right .
@@amyshew1151 - you’re right
@@amyshew1151 Regular Mormons wouldn't believe her. This was a fringe group meeting.
I can't listen to this. I saw the court documents about Tylee's dad. She is lying about him!
Her mouth is open....of course she's lying. That's how you tell. When her mouth is moving..she's lying!! When one starts to compare themselves to God and being like him, talking to him, angels coming and putting stuff in her inbox while she takes a hot bubble bath...not praying to God to teach her how to figure it out...she's Lori...she just says..Hey angels..I'm going to the temple tomorrow if you wanna go, type your stuff out and put it in my inbox..I'll be in the bath??!! . Not only does she tell in lies about whatever suits her...she talks like a crazy person...don't be deceived or think the LDS church believes or teaches any of this...it's the Church according to Lori Vallow...and Chad Daybell...he's a whacko but I think she's a black widow whose been spinning a web for a very long time. .
@@chattygabby1 You nailed it!
The first thing that HaSatan told Eve was that YHWH didn't mean what HE said,(she wouldn't die), & then HaSatan 'revealed' what YHWH didn't want her to know, (she would be like a god)!
In layman's terms, HaSatan changed YHWH's WORD! And because it sounded better to Eve, it fit her narrative and allowed her to do what she wanted to do, (although it was wrong, she loved & preferred HaSatan's lie).
HaSatan is oh so clever and he is residing quite well among any and ALL churches who have 'blended' YHWH's WORD with HaSaTan's word & call it truth! They do these things in YHWH's name, (they call HIM god, yet they do not know HIS name), but it is not what YHWH said!
98% of the churches are, in fact, guilty of changing YHWH's Hebrew Word, adding new words & books, and/or teaching doctrine that is peppered w/falsehoods that make it a lie no matter how little those lies are sprinkled throughout!
So, yes, a member of a congregation begins with a church's doctrine that may be 'close' to YHWH's WORD, (that doesn't mean it isn't corrupted, i.e., translated versions & doctrines that 'sprung up in other locations' but did not originate from the Hebrew). And then that member embellishes in changing the doctrine to fit their own needs, wants and desires. When it goes to this level of nefariousness, all the while, that person claims & declares their 'belief' in god's name; But please notice that I did not capitalize god, because there are many false gods, but there is only ONE, who spoke in Hebrew and everything was, and HIS Word, HIS TRUTH cannot produce anything that is evil!
People compromise truth and change it to fit their own needs.Period!
YHWH HATES LIARS! And if anyone thinks that a 'white lie' isn't important or wrong, they better wake up! The more a person lies or is complicit about small lies,(does santa clause, the easter bunny & the tooth fairy ring any truth bells?), the more desensitized they become!
A liar is a thief, (the first thing they steal is the truth), and a thief will murder to cover their deceptions & robberies!
Anyhoot, HaSatan achieves his goals through false doctrines that he camouflages in the churches, appears to people & they perceive him as 'an angel, their dead grandma or other relative', or what they perceive is the voice of god,(but had they read YHWH"s WORD, they would know that HE outlawed any of the 'dead' to return before HE resurrects them and identified these 'spirits' for what they are, demonic!), and HaSatan uses his recognizable tactics in the secular society that he doesn't try to disguise!
Either way, HaSatan beguiles & moves people away from YHWH, causes them to mock & blame HIM & declare that HE doesn't exist; this fits their lives and justifies their desires so they do not need to reverence HIM or have HIM as an authority over their lives! Yes, it is really that simple. You cannot recognize the enemy if you think & believe that he is your friend!
Lori is guilty of this and her murderous actions are mind twisting! Their self serving narrative, delivered by HaSatan, himself, made them godlike and above the law, chosen to lead through adultery, robbery, deception, & murder! It all started with a lie, folks, & everyone needs to really think about that and allow it to resonate.
Think you cannot be manipulated into loving a lie? Think your churches are teaching the WORD OF GOD? Which god?
Few hints: YHWH hates your christmas' and your easter! Do your homework because if you do not stand for truth, you'll fall for any lie! A word to the wise is sufficient!
Lastly, A thief doesn't rob an empty house! You are very valuable to YHWH! So valuable that HE sent HIS LIVING WORD, Yehoshua, in the flesh, and died for you to fulfill THE LAW! There is no love without law and there is no law without love.
Shalom
@@thequieterubcomethemoreuhe1198 absolutely wonderful message!!
Yes she is and no one corrects her.
@@LaniLanilei She was enabled until her arrest! You're spot on!
She was already talking crazy before she met Chad.
Lucky for chad
She sure was talking and thinking crazy. Mental illness slowly creeping up on this woman through out her life. She said herself that “Satan” has been torturing her since a little girl.
So does this mean Chad might be let off lighter then Lori?
Yes, because she read all of his and Julie Rowe's books well before she met him.
I do believe that Lori was crazy before she met Chad. But chad is there during this recording. This was probably recorded when Lori had all those people over her house when Charles was out of town. Melanie Gibb said they were all there at Lori’s house at some point without Charles because he was away on business
If it moves, it doesn't stand a chance with Lori.
If it -moves- has a pulse, it doesn't stand a chance with Lori. sorted :)
Wow. She’s screwed up and has some sort of make believe world!
Hopefully her cellmate can make her shut TF up!
But notice no one in that room vocalized dismay or disagreement with her thought process about her beliefs and understanding of the Book of Mormon - the right to murder someone after 3 times. How many Lori & Chad Daybells are out there?
@@CatholicHousewife2017 I can guarantee at least one person was thinking it! I’m a Latter-Day Saint and, while I’ve never heard anything quite that shockingly whack-a-doodle, I feel like I’m with crazy people when they start talking about “energy healing.”
Totally
@@thatgirlwhousedtohavereall5549 LOL! poor cell mate! They should be set free and sentence paid for that.
She's been fooled and was carrying out the Devils plans and the dark spirits she thought were Angel's.
JESUS would never tell you to KILL.
THOU SHALT NOT KILL !
AMEN 💚
I would've told them to eat 💩 and converted to Scientology before i became some angels personal assassin.
That wasn’t an Angel, that was Chad
She wasn’t fooled. She was the devil trying to fool everyone around her!!!!
She listened to herself, no evil spirits and jesus ain't coming his dead. Jesus talking to no one religion is doing the talking.
Joe was trying to protect Tylee just like Charles was trying to protect both Tylee and JJ
Charles worked together with Lori against Joe. Little did he know that the same would happen to him - Lori used Chad's ideology to destroy Charles.
Who does Lori say HAD BEEN ABUSING HER HER ENTIRE CHILDHOOD? Somewhere about 5:30
Indico Lite Exactly
Annette Herrera I hav thought from the beginning that Lori projected her own sexual abuse by her father onto her husbands. Sadly Tylee and Cody were in the middle of total insanity. When Lori referred to being tortured as a child by Satan, this is what I think she’s referring to-
@@paulaoppedisano3685 Charles was there as well. If he found Lori crazy to the point of harming their (and also his) children he should have intervened. He did try to have her mentally evaluated in January 2019 when she threatened to kill him and revealed all her religious delusions to him.
Well Lori murdering your kids is against every religion so you’re clearly not “chosen,” you’re just crazy.
Rest In Peace Tylee,Jj,Charles,and Tammy and Joe. ❤️
@SarahsSimple& StylishMakeup Added him too!I really hope she and Chad get charged with first degree murder.
@@EYExINxTHExLENS Amen
AMEN, AMEN!!
She's literally a SERIAL KILLER.
@@JeepGirl941 She definitely is.
At 4:06 she admits planning and wanting to kill her 3rd husband.
Wow. The prosecutors are going to have a field day with this audio. The part that baffles me is how anyone of sound mind could sit and listen to her drone on for almost 45 minutes about her delusions & conversations with Jesus and angels after they heard her claim she wanted to commit revenge murder. No one with murder in their heart is close to God.
MG, Chad & DW could listen! Should speak for itself!
And MG just laughs... 😟
Saying that you wanted to kill someone isn't the same as doing it. You can't be prosecuted for thinking about it.
Yes that’s what I’m saying someone laughed and no one corrected her. Also Melanie knows how to speak, write and read in code...
Amen
Satan’s having a Field Day with this one!! His minions dancing in that audience big time!
I don’t believe that Satan is able to influence anyone. People are evil enough to do these types of things on their own. This woman is evil and blaming Satan isn’t the right approach. That off puts the evil in her own heart, her own evil desires aside, and blames satan for influencing her. She did these evil things. She is satan herself.
@@scottconway1194 ....yeah, I get that. I guess I look at life this way: I have choices (free will?) to make and, everywhere I go - well, I take myself 😎 So, kinda like science principles: if I believe in a loving God (the Good) I gotta know its opposite (the bad) exists. So, I make choices. In order to choose well (toward Good) I have to prepare - I have to study the Word of God AND be willing to hear; to listen. Or, I can let fear, anxiety, “worldly” concepts run me around (the evil if ya will). Anyway....just my view AND I appreciate ya listening to me rattling on! Have a SUPERB day!! God Bless you & yours!
@@kellyford5903 very interesting discussion, this is what some people believe the true meaning of "Satan" to be. Satan represents the potential for evil which exists as a consequence of our human free will. Satan represents our worst impulses, basically: what we become if we indulge narcissistic impulses without caring for the consequences of those actions.
SHE IS NOT PSYCHOTIC. SHE IS A MURDERER. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HER LITTLE FRIEND GIBB IS NOT YET IN JAIL.
Does anyone believe the leader of the Mesa temple gave her, her Temple Recommend because she told him she would otherwise kill her ex husband ? She sounds so delusional my goodness.
FYI, temples don’t have bishops. The church isn’t organised that way.
This lady is nuts. I don’t believe a word she says.
@@jeaniekennedy6111 Local LDS church wards (smallest units) are led by bishops. Apparently they approve temple recommends.
@@jeaniekennedy6111 does the Mormon church have Bishops?
Only four minutes in and the projection she's putting out is ridiculous.
Really bad. She fully believes herself.
Lol. I'm like 7 minutes in
@Solo Allen there's literally a formula!! You too can be a cult messiah! Complete with harem!
Legal in Utah. I can help you write your prophecies for a nominal fee.
I predict that she’s going to have a cellmate that’s gonna insist that she shuts TF UP!
She is going to have a reality check when folks in prison get her.
She's going to have problems in jail no doubt they better put her in the nut house those women in there won't put up with her
Doubt she'll ever have a cell mate. She'll be in protective custody the whole time. Men's prisons don't like ppl who mess with kids... (Chris Watts is in protective custody in Wisconsin for example) it's 100x worse in a women's prison. She wouldn't survive gen-pop. I wouldn't be surprised if they moved her out of state too.
Her voice sounds so different than when she talked to her husband from jail.
She seems to change her voice with her manipulations.
Also, jail recorded phone calls are not of even good quality. Way different.
"a personal witness to the Lord Jesus Christ". i think not lori. followers of Christ don't intentionally murder their children.
Amen ! I am so concerned people will think mormonism and this offshoot of it is the same as Christianity and it is soooo far from true. Real Christians do not follow a pedophile nor another book other than the Bible. And do not murder anyone. This whole 144,000 thing drives me crazy. They are virgin Jews ,male, who will NOT be led by a woman . They will be witnesses for the real Jesus in the end times. These people have twisted everything.
Nor do they say "after thtee times she has the right to murder" her ex husband, who conviently is dead!!!
Another person who twists their religion around to fit their twisted view of what they should do in the name of God.
Itś called a cult. Remember Jim Jones?
Their religion is far out enough
@@Malibu_Dawn yeah I know. She just makes me crazy I’m so sick of her
Exactly, typical religious nuts.
How exactly does one fall into, and believe this BS?
Hope they play that as evidence if they try to slap her for Mr Ryans passing. May justice be done for Tylee and JJ.
I think Lori really does believe that she did no wrong. However, Chad... You can hear it in his voice when lori calls him while the authorities were finding Tylee and JJ on his property... he dont believe this crap he was manipulating others to believe IMO
@@chasity71mvp19 yes I totally agree that Lori believes her own BS and Chad sounded like he was scared sh**less on the phone that day‼️ (While she was cool as a cucumber.)
And Tammy and... and.. who knows who else?!
What a witch!
I can't wait until Tammy's comes back it's been 1 year I think it will come out in count
@@suzannaj3834 Right?? Wasn't that phone call weird? It was to me, her with her giggling and saying "should I pray" like she didn't know.. 🤔 wonder if she didn't know WHERE they buried the kids? Idk, she is one wicked weirdo tho
Love how she is like “I’m 45 and I have no clue how to use computers”(7:52). Then she later says (13:36)she “went home and searched the names on her family search and did some research and printed off the paperwork on her computer”.....that she said she didn’t know how to use. My gosh this whole situation makes me so sad.
Omg I'm glad somebody else realize that this breaks my heart with this evil woman did to those kids I hope she gets everything that's coming to her very soon!!
And Chad too and anybody else who played a role in this craziness murderous plot!
The angel did it for her.😇😬
@@lueValentine lmao. duh, it’s cause she asked her angels to do it 🤪
She also says that she had planned out in advance coming to this world and later says " God, why did you send me here to fight?" No Scripture at all. Just made up fantasy stories. Sick.
It makes me wonder if she has disassociative personality disorder. Maybe her angel is another personality.
She sounds like a psychopath in a bipolar manic episode-
Exactly and thoroughly enjoying the attention she was getting as she deliberately manipulated these brainless twits.
A psychotic manic episode...
@1984 IS SOFTBALL agreed. She is just insane, not clinically, just religiously insane
She doesn’t just sound like it. She IS having psychotic Manic episodes.
Melody Gibb right there with her!!!
Is she?
Yep omg! 🤪
@@showgirlsaroundtheworldada4484
At 26:12
Yes u can hear my laughing.
Yep she is! And she believes everything Lori believes!
Makes me want 2 vomit! Pure Evil!
Mental illness, HEARTBREAKING SHE KILLED HER KIDS. And her son left behind is just the sweetest guy. My heart hurts for him.
Yes
It’s 6/7/21 and I want to keep following this to the end in hopes for Justice for those that died. Please keep us posted on updates constantly .
I also pray that this evil be cast out this woman so she could realize all wrong doing and just sad situation all of it and has a Son still here and I'm sure has so many questions for her ..
@@marysawyer4041Justice was served. Lori got 3 life sentences on 7/31/23 and Chad got the death penalty on 6/1/24. Now Lori will be tried for the Murder of Charles.
Lori &. Chad are Both,
In League with 😈Lucifer.🥺
She is really in love with herself. I’m LDS and we are not like this.
I am so so so ashamed of this. I am so terribly sorry that her mental illness lead to this tragedy. My heart breaks for the victims. I am LDS, too...
Good to know...🙂
She thinks she has the further light and knowledge no one else gets (eye roll). She has been set up to be fooled because of her narcissistic personality.
@@aoife984 correct she knows what she is doing.
She loves the sound of her own voice this woman is suffering from metal illness she definitely needs help
“I’m sweet and innocent,” said the deranged psychopath
Melanie Gibb at this point was totally brainwashed too. I think this recording is going to throw her evidence into complete question. This recording has done nothing for Melanie at all. Lori and Chads lawyers will have a field day with her. When Lori says at 31:20 that if your whole family is gone that’s okay as they have chosen to leave this world. That made me feel sick. They were all agreeing. And when some woman starts to encourage people to buy Chads books, because she had bought and read 11 in 3 weeks, I listened in dismay. They are all sucked in to this dangerous world.
I bet it was Melanie Gibb who gave this recording to police. Her testimony is going to be just fine.
Pretty sure in the description it says Annie Cushing provided this recording to LE in hopes that they would reopen her brothers death and investigate Lori for his murder as well. Which ya, I think she definitely has a hand in his death and when she got away with it, it made her feel invincible.
@@SnagemSauce Annie Cushing got it from an anonymous source. Allegedly Melanie Gibb made the recording. She likely gave it to police together with other evidence when she came forward with the recording she made of Chad and Lori. Nate Eaton claimed a while ago that there were more recordings. Lori's lawyer said that this recording was not part of the discovery documents for Lori's case, so I doubt it will be brought up in court. If it was, it would only hurt Lori. An actual criminal defense attorney stated in his youtube channel that Lori's statements in this recording are not incriminating enough to be prosecutable.
As someone who was once abused by a narcissist, I'm going to pick this apart from my standpoint.
To start, narcissist seek one thing and that is attention, usually admiration. Keep this in mind.
1) Narcissists project: Whatever they are guilty of, typically abusive behaviors, they will accuse someone else of. It distracts the unwary to the narc's terrible behavior that is hidden behind a mask. It also serves to alienate whomever they're projecting on. It's also a good source of attention via sympathy/empathy from others. Lori is doing this by accusing her ex of being abusive. While I can't confirm or deny that her accusations are true, they get her attention either way.
2) Narcs need to feel superior/special compared to others. This is abundant in Lori's "testimony" of experiencing angels giving her info on her genealogy, having spoken to Jesus, being one of the strongest warriors, etc. She's better than everyone else, regardless if she believes these claims or not.
3) Drawing in others and trapping them with flattery. Using her claims from point 2, Lori makes those in the church feel special because she's special. She's telling them that they're part of a very exclusive in group. By making them feel special, Lori has ensnared her fellow church goers into giving her attention. While she's convinced them that they're special, but not as special as her, they want to hang onto every word.
4) Used something pre-established to their advantage. She did this with The Church of Latter Day Saints. By manipulating what already existed with these peoples' belief, she was able to garner attention for herself.
5) Subtle boundary pushing. Narcs are VERY careful about not letting others catch a glimpse of behind their charming mask. Lori does this when she claimed that she felt as if she had to kill her ex (justifying it via scripture). When the others laughed, this gave her confirmation that the boundary of religious justified murder was one she could pass after having dug herself into the church like a tick. If there were hints of disapproval from members, I have no doubt she would've backpedalled with a self congratulatory statement such as "but I'm too strong to do so/it's not the way of the Lord/etc" to keep her clout within the group. As a note, those disturbed by the congregation's laughing response to this doesn't necessarily mean they're sociopaths like Lori; They're simply so drawn in by her superficial charm and have no doubt have their boundaries normally pushed before as to make Lori's claim seem way less extreme than it is.
6) Obvious manipulation from an outsider's perspective. Combine all of my above points and it should be easy to spot a narc that's targeted you, right? Well, not really. They're cunning people who seek to cut off their victims from the outside. Using said above points, they manipulate their victims into a warped sense of normalcy. How could someone so charming, sympathetic, and knowledgeable be bad? It's obvious to us as outsiders that her behavior is absolutely wrong, but to someone who's been slowly trapped in her honey and lies, it's not. Once the victim(s) realize what the narc is, they then feel so ashamed and such overpowering cognitive dissonance that they're afraid to speak out. By then the narc will have moved on and used their charm to convince new victims that the old victims are the crazy, abusive one(s).
I hope that this makes sense!
Thank you - that was helpful.
I am reading this as a much later time but had to comment. You have described my experience with my x husband to an exact detail thank you really needed this
Spot on. I agree completely that is exactly how I feel. Very well said Thank you for taking the time
Makes PERFECT sense to me having been on the receiving end of narcissistic abuse for 14 years. I personally feel she is a Malignant Narcissist.
my x husband to a tee
Oh and MG was right with her! This whole group is insane.
MG and DW were enablers for the longest time! The all believed the same crazy fantasies of being ‘the elect’ or specially chosen - MB was as deceived- hopefully she’s AWAKE now! She will have to be for the trial....... if not, she could join Lori
They didn't all kill people. It's not the same.
She was encouraging this stuff.... I think she's played a part in all, it was her mission to help Lori. She's all about telling these people how good Lori is and she's a witness to her and others
@@bevtrue6937 unless your MG or DW you don't know what they did. They maybe didn't physically kill but MG clearly knew all was going to happen. She's guilty by association and knowing and NOT saying anything until after the fact....
She’s so sick and her audience is clearly no damn better!
Yeah who would listen to this crap and take it in like it’s some sort of preaching....she’s a nut and it was clearly frighteningly evident....why was she not looked out more closely ...way earlier
She speaks with a luring, evil voice. She is terrifying. Poor kids💚💙
Yes. So smooth... so funny...
And what kind of people are laughing with this nut when she said i wanted to murder him WHO LAUGH AT A STATEMENT OF MURDER ?HOW EVIL.
For someone who stated she did not have a murderous heart she sure murdered plenty
When Lori talks about not sleeping, constantly being woken up by spirts, her experience with the spirts completing the family names in the computer, she sounds like Julie Rowe. Lori is using Julie’s Vernacular. It’s actually mania though - for both of them. Did Chad borrower Julie’s material to influence Lori or did Lori steel it for herself? Happy Anniversary today Lori.
Lori and Julie Rowe are both unstable delusional women
Has she been diagnosed with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia?
dont give her the benefit of a mental condition. dont blame her behavior on mania. shes a narcissist. all those people talk in funny circles like that.. they all cant be suffering from mania as well.
@@thenuge4227 that’s why I asked if she’s been diagnosed. I agree, she’s definitely a narcissist and blames everyone else for everything in her life, but thinks she’s perfect. She lies non -stop and needs everyone to bow down to her. It’s absolutely disgusting. She’s actually extremely annoying to listen to and watch. I think she plays the victim too and is a manipulator.
@@karlachilders1145 I totally agree. I think there was a shared psychosis amongst some of them.
She's not screwed up enough to get out of the death penalty! She's a hypocrite!
She'll never get the death penalty, unfortunately. There's too much room for doubt bc of alex's involvement.
Makes me nauseous - so many things about her is wrong. If one has truly experienced these extremely sacred things, they wouldn’t speak about them like this. So much of it if not all are LiES.
makes me nauseous all those people laughing and soaking it all up like sponge
Melanie Gibbs knows way more about this than we know she knows
She has to have some responsibility and knowledge, way more than what she lets on, but it’ll all come out in court
Why so much hating and judgment on Melanie Gibb? Yes, I believe she was influenced wrongly by Lori and probably believed many things that Lori taught that aren't true. But eventually she recognized the falsehoods, contacted and cooperated with police, and testified against Lori at trial. Lori and Chad are charasmatic and mixed truths and falsehoods in an attempt to deceive others with some success. It should be a wake up call to everyone as to who we will listen to and believe. For me, I believe that we won't be led astray if we follow the scriptures and true prophets rather than people like Lori and Chad who preach their own doctrine mingled with scripture!
If Lori and Chad would have made bail Melanie G may have picked up that mystery cough like Tammy. Damn shame.
@@reaganbates2802 You need to be more precise. Knowing of and accepting crazy beliefs is one thing, but knowing of murders is quite different. So far, no evidence has been presented showing that Melanie knew that Lori's children were going to be murdered. On the contrary, Lori provided Melanie with excuses for their absence. Melanie's recording of Chad and Lori only confirms that.
Shocked that more people didn’t call out the part where she says “even if you are the only one in your family left” referring to being left here to fulfill their “purpose”😳🤯🤯🤯 and seriously she says murder over and over... this is just insane
Wow. I didn't catch that. Family being shot at and even killed. I am going to be thinking more on that. It is like she is saying all of them need to be gone if they won't believe her. Oh my word.
I honestly think Melanie knew about everything.
Remember, she has an autistic child also...maybe she had plans for him if Lori's plans panned out? Hey, who knows with these crazies?! 🙃😨🤢
Yes she did. AND she lied and covered for her. Had she gone to the police quickly...those kids wouldn’t be dead. She knew what happened to those who she called “zombies”.
She should be prosecuted just as the whole cult should be.
It’s disgusting that she is being labeled a ‘hero’ when she ONLY went to the police out of jealousy of her and Chads relationship.
@@Xtiansldrs agree 100%
I am 99.5 percent with you. I want to believe M didn't know. But she probably did. Its sad.
There's two meals witch one both of them knew
I knew it! Healthy 47 yr old men don't just die and sit for a week.
This is an amazing recording, because she literally describes how she slipped into psychosis. First I must say that to me, Lori is definitely sick. She is this type of schizophren that keeps relatively the structure of her personality. In other words, such schizophrens (used to be called paraphrens) seem like they can lead their normal activities, but in parallel, they present wild delusions and hallucinations. Usually, schizophrenia starts much earlier in a life, around teenage or early adulthood. But untreated depression can lead to psychosis. In this recording, Lori tells how painful her divorce from Joseph Ryan was. In all probability, she fell into a deep depression during this process. She says so herself, how painful the process was. It seems that her religious beliefs have eventually give way for this depression to develop into something much more serious, and potentially very difficult to treat medically.
Deep depression can require years to be treated with anti-depressants, sometimes 4 or 5 years. Imagine when it develops to this stage.
Another striking element of the recording, is Melanie Gibb's reactions. She seems to be in such a state of admiration for Lori! She's like a very young sister listening to her big sis.
To add a humorous touch to this, I particularly appreciate her feminist Jesus, who's taking the Second Comming opportunity to elevate women's priesthood to equal that of men, since his celestial wife is equal to his. I just wonder how the judean society of the 1st century would have felt about that. At least, we can all be very happy that Jesus' concerns in heaven (or on his planet) coincides with our contemporary moral values. That's very conforting to me, I must say.
So sad on many levels!
Pure evil! 😡
She is paranoid schizophrenic with religious ( I can't remember the correct term) but yes, crazy.
The elders(?) Of the church told the rest not to talk to anyone and not to volunteer anything. I believe that would of meant this as well.
May she get all she deserves and may I live long enough to see it.
Patricia Lessard w/hyper religious
Religious ideology is the term you're looking for. Mormonism is a cult and chad and lori have a cult spun off of a cult. Evil.
Her voice makes me want to go insane.
🙉 Same! 🙉
Right it's so fake
How can those people sit there and listen to those hideous lies?so sad.
Lies lies.the devil totally has her.i hope she gets deliverance.
Their misguided views about divine plans and their perceived missions make them feel so important and feed their narcissistic personalities.
"Our children are here to do their own missions, and we shouldn't interfere with that." - Lori
🤦🏽 😡 Well Lori, I think it's safe to say that you interfered.
1 min 16 seconds in would have been my complete closing argument if I had been the Prosecution team....and it would have started with " In the words of the defendant herself".... 😮
She has this facade of sweetness, nonchalant attitude of others suffering by her hand, victimhood and a storyteller to hide her true devious selfish intentions. I see you Lori.
Life isn’t complicated. Follow the 10 commandments and you can’t go wrong.
She violated every commandment, and came up with excuses to validate her transgressions against her spouses and her two youngest children in order to murder them.
I’m glad this audio was shared, she can’t blame Chad, and Chad can’t blame her. He also, planned and plotted his wife’s demise, and murdered Lori’s children for ritualistic pleasure as the prophet of the first born church, he envisioned to build in ID.
Do you hear Melanie Gibb talking? She knows more than she has shared.
These people are hypocrites, talking about their secret beliefs together, but denying what they believe and practice to outsider
(dark scales, zombies, castings).
This is scary dangerous, and they think they are inspirational.
Do any of these people work? Omg Melanie G how is she not if not locked up ? she should be put in a straight jacket!!!!
Melanie Gibb was naive and gullible. Lori saw it and used her.
Melanie isn't naive. She wanted the power too.
The plot thickens
God she's not even a good liar. This is so generic. I'd roll my eyes at this women. I don't see the truth in her voice.
Her whole motivation is to find signs and spirits to reinforce the notion and feeling that she's special. It's just narcissisism.
That’s exactly right!
@@RiotHomeRecording yeah Steve, I think the other main pillar about her is about how she's come to act on, act out projection. It's remarkable in this case. Projection major force, expression in narcissists. She's had it going for years and generally as a part if her personality. It's there in the divorce papers. It got worse as the beauty faded and money for tight. But then prophesy and dark and light stuff she got into with Daybell give a her a rationale and (next) world (and previous lives) view to in order to rub out those having the evil that she has but has projected it away from herself on to them. And have it justified while she gets elevated in the power of it and specialness of having been able to see it in them, and fixing it for the Creator's plan.
It's quite something.
"He was able to turn it around so the judge believed him instead of me" The judge had good reason to believe her ex. There was never any indication that he assaulted anyone. False accusers are in my mind the next most serious sin, just below murder. They destroy lives.
Lori Daybell worships at the temple of her own narcissism.
She absolutely kiled her husband what monster
THIS IS MORE THAN STRANGE, BUT HER NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ON THEM, BUT SHE COULD GET INTO CHARLES VALLOWS COMPUTER AND CHANGE THE PASSWORD TO MAKE SURE THE BENEFICIARY IS HER ? HMMM.....
Good point! And then she ordered her wedding ring & other stuff on amazon on Charles credit card. Ya right!
She also cancelled his flight home and emptied his business bank account of like 30,000...
Also booking flights, vacations.. just stupid
She lies according to her listeners.
I can't even begin to imagine someone choosing and believing themselves to be in such a place of authority and power. Just when you think humans have hit rock bottom, someone goes deeper.
Peak narcissism
Preach it. This woman is a scary monster.
Oh my goodness 😳😢.
Well said.
Listen to how forceful Melanie Gibbs was.
I have some things happen to me and I've had dreams and visions, but it's nothing like this. All of these lies are just too much. Who would believe this nonsense?
Imagine hating computers more than murder and being better at hiding a body than logging into windows98.
They are all messed up. She says she wanted to kill her husband and they laughed at that statement? How do you feel now knowing what you know. Sick people...
I made it to 5:25. I can’t listen to someone so brainwashed willingly justify being ok with killing someone if she is a believer in Jesus Christ. What evil she is, is a whole other level. She’s not crazy, she’s evil.
Mormons do not believe in the real Jesus Christ.
You are correct!!
Agreed. She knew what she was doing when it was all premeditated and she also lied/ tried to hide/slander kay& charles etc knowing it was all wrong.
Amen💯🕊🙏❤
Lori's savior is satan and those angels waking her up are satan's fallen angels.
She is scary - sad nobody listened to Charles b4 they killed him
As a Christian I find this very disturbing. She is very delusional and her only hope is medication.
Yeah and once she has that medication in her She will really see what she did and how wrong she was
What is all this talk about Lori being beautiful. I don’t see anything but evil in her!
“I don’t like the computers” neither did chad, didn’t he write that in tammy’s obit? These 2.
And she had NO problem whatsoever buying her and Chads rings and clothing from the computer!
@@DaynaMathewsArt and changing the password on Charles life insurance policy.
Cancelling his flight home and enjoying his bank accounts...
Emptying***
And she bought her wedding gown and her and Chads wedding rings on Amazon with Charles’ credit card 🤔
Insanity
Joseph Ryan's sister points out possible inconsistencies in Joseph's death on her Annielytics channel and the lack of investigation by the police. If Lori had a hand in his death in April, 2018, it was definitely before meeting Chad Daybell later that year, so it was more than likely that Lori was the driving force behind all the deaths with Chad was along for the ride and the financial windfall.
Religion in the wrong minds can be dangerous
This whole conversation is nothing but a bunch of lies
I’m curious about how badly she mentally manipulated her brother, Alex. He was her puppet. I truly believe he murdered the kids and her husbands. It kept her hands and Chad’s hands somewhat “clean” and ultimately, she and Chad won’t get the sentence the public is hoping for. It’s utterly horrible.
Chad helped bury these kids on his land and hid it from law enforcement. I prayer he gets a long sentence.
Conspiracy carries the same penalty for all involved.
@@sharonhowell582 one can hope, but it may never be enough in the public eye.
Just taking part in it makes them guilty.
You always here the driver say that I stayed in the car! I didn’t shoot! It doesn’t matter they were ALL part of it they all ALL Pay!!!
It's literally this simple People. "GOD is LOVE & if its not DIRECTING LOVE to anyone, it's NOT from GOD!!! That is my religion. "God is love & Golden Rule.
Agreed. Those are the two most important things;& that love is for everyone of every background, lifestyle, religion or non religion.
All these people are psychopaths! Unbelievable!!
She had to look up in her scripture to show how it’s ok to murder someone if they are a pain. Well that’s against the law even if you can’t tell it’s wrong without looking it up in some weird cult book.
Taking scripture literally and puck and choose which ones would fit your crazy thinking, got you your just consequence. Happy First Anniversary in jail Mrs Daybell...... who’s smirking now?!
Maybe I missed it but I didn't hear her give a scripture reference for what she said about killing someone. I don't remember reading anything like what she said, anywhere in the Bible. What verse was she referencing?
@@JeepGirl941 It was from the Book of Mormon apparently. If you watch this video it gets explained ua-cam.com/video/GQuSmNIFf9g/v-deo.html
@@RDnAC thanks!
I guess her mission was to sit poolside with Chad collecting social security and spending Tammys insurance monies in Kuyaii while her kids and Tammy were dead! The devil was dancing with her antics!
I thought all you needed for a murder case is a body, a motive and opportunity. And the Daybells certainly have all three of those. I can't understand why murder charges haven't been filed. I don't think there's any more evidence out there. Are they just waiting for one of them to turn on the other one?
There is. Its a chess game she is gonna lose.
This sounds like schizophrenic hallucinating and rambling
Time to take your medication and go night-night.
She is such a narcissist. She wanted fame and fortune with Chad and would murder to do it.
I didn't realise angels can type. If I had known this before I could have given them my college essays and work reports. I am older than Lori Vallow and can use a computer and have done for decades. She is a deeply ridiculous and dangerous woman
She mentions 5 kids she was dealing with all the time at (5:45). There was colby and tylee and not sure if she had JJ at time of this recording . So who was the other 2?
I think I heard her say two step children.
She said it she blames no one but herself!
Wow the b/s just drips off her tongue. And Melanie Gib just lapping it all up giggling. These people make me scared of religion.
More kool-aid, anyone?
How many times in this recording did she say "I", "my", "me", "myself"? 😬
The crowd is glorifying her when they here her spiritual stories. I wonder what they think now about wanting her experiences?
I feel kinda sorry for the church,that this was even allowed.
I have heard family members bare testimony just like this. Scary scary
Your own family ?
Lori (super sweet warrior): I was going to murder my husband - the Scriptures said I could (giggle)
Audience: oh ok (giggle)
Lori: and the angels type out my work for me (giggle)
Audience: oh ok (awed gasps)
God: Don’t know what paths your walkin’ sister but they aint mine ...