The 1GR-FE is an excellent motor. When serviced normally, it will last a super long time. Super reliable engine. Whenever owners skimp on maintenance, then that's when problems arise. No fault of this engine at all.
As a retired mechanic and proud owner of a 2012 Hilux with the 1GR-FE. Religious 10K servicing using a Mineral oil, I truly expect to cover more than 500,000kms and beyond .
Hey from the USA here, 5th gen 4runner’s here run like nobody’s business. Strong , reliable , although loud engine, it is by design, love the 1GR-FE. We’re not gonna get these kind of engines anymore in modern times.
It’s an awesome engine the warning is about the ones that are not service properly some people seem to have missed that point it is a very important key point
I only defend when people talk 🐂💩 As you know I’ve had 3 of the V6 prado’s, the first one now is running around with over 400 thou on it now. It’s only people people who get on face book and bag out the V6 because, one, they have never owned one and comment about how thirsty they are, or the motors are 💩 etc, or 2 the motor has gone bang and you ask them have you had it since new, the answer is no. So then you ask them about the service history, oh yes it’s got a full service history the car yard said, so you have every receipt for the 10k or 6 month services, um no there are no log books. Then I say so you have zero history of the cars scheduled servicing but you want to bag out how bad the V6 are 🤔🤔. A lot of people again who have never owned one comment on how much better they are over the diesel. I’ve also had a diesel Prado to compare. You can’t tell me that the V6 is not cheaper to service over let’s say a 200 thou period especially in the 150 series of both the V6 and the 3.0L . Injector replacement on the D4D what 2500 to 3k, transfer pump, $1500, timing belt, there’s 4 & 1/2 k to start with, some thing you never need to do in the petrol Prado because one they don’t have a belt, they don’t have a transfer pump, and the injectors are known for doing 300thou plus and more with out replacement . You pay more for the diesel in the first place to buy, generally if you watch the fuel cycle here in Sydney at least you can buy petrol cheaper at the bowser than diesel, I only ever used genuine parts on all my.prado’s. If Toyota bought out another V6 I would have updated to another one but I fortunately they didn’t. Will wait and see what Toyota bring out next. I’m not anti diesel, but people who have never owned a petrol Prado and make a load of 🐂💩 comments about an engine they know nothing about are the ones that make a 🍆 of them selves. And yes I’m defending the V6 again as you new I would.
Steve RM. True mate I’ve seen next to no issues with Toyota petrols in general Bullet proof .Australia is very biest. When it comes to diesel/petrol .Toyota vehicles next to no issues in petrols way cheaper In service costs too.
Have you owned a 150 series diesel Prado to compare? Or are you doing the exact thing you said, “A lot of people again who have never owned one comment”.😂
@@PP-bm7zp nope never said I did. Mine was a kz. But tell me I’m wrong about any thing I have mentioned in my reply about the cost of injectors for a 1kd supply n fit ?? Tell me I’m wrong that the person who posted this video and is a well known mechanic and a good one at that who has mentioned about having the injectors replaced before 200 thou ?? Tell me I’m wrong that in the maintenance schedule in a 150 diesel that you are required to change the transfer pump at 150 k ?? Tell me I’m wrong that the V6 doesn’t contain a timing belt like the 3.0L does that needs replacing on the 1kd at 150k ?? Then along with that is the recommended replacement of water pump etc while the belt is being done to save on maintenance costs from having to do it before the next belt change is due. Tell me I’m wrong that people who have never owned a petrol Prado carry on about how thirsty they are to run yet when asked if they own one they don’t but theirs mums dads brothers uncles friend has one he said it’s thirsty
@@PP-bm7zp Are you suggesting the diesel 150s don't have the problems listed above? Not exactly bagging them if they are widely known and acknowledged issues...
"Don't buy one of the most reliable V6 engines ever made because this one bloke got one that had shoddy maintenance and an even more shoddy replacement" 😂😂😂 If the heads are good, you can get a 1GR-FE short block from Toyota for like $4-5k USD. They are proud of those dual VVT-I heads tho 😂
You mentioned the 202 cubic inch (remember saying that?!) Holden Red motor was in my first car: Holden Kingswood HJ with a manual “three on the tree” and a standard banjo diff. I compression tested all cylinders prior to purchase and they were within roughly 5 PSI. Anyway, I remember actually standing beside the engine once just to see if I could. No power steering, no AC rubbish. I repaired the rust inside and out and Re sprayed in a Dulux industrial protecting paint white and black in the boot/towbar. Was a labour of love. The simplicity was so good. The reliably was good. Miss the old girl. Paid $1300
Whoever did the job should be shot😢…. I have a 280k v6, a new Prado 150 diesel, can’t bring myself selling the v6 after 6 months ownership of the new one… only thing I hate about the v6 is fill up time, expect 15-18l/100km if you do mostly 40-60km road - highway touring with full load - 11-13l/100km… towing 1.3 ton camper on 80-110km/hr road 17-19l/100km I would change the oil every 5000km if doing mostly town or even shorter distance if you do a lot sub 5km trips - there must be a lot crankcase condensation- short trip doesn’t help burning the water vapor off…
I got similar v6 and brand new diesel prado. Few days ago i had a thought of selling my new Prado, will give it another month and see if its a keeper. Dpf burns every 200kms, average fuel consumption 10.5l with most of it was on freeway.
so i think we can all agree that the V6 is bulletproof but ONLY if it has had regular oil change. I would say Diesel has few more expensive service items to pay if you look at the life cycle of the engine - injectors every 150K for 1KD and associated items puts about $5k out of pocket every 150,000km - but that's obviously offset by fuel saving (at the current price trend, difference is about $650 saving every 10,000km in my scenario) - So theoratically still cheaper to own a diesel if you could buy a new V6 and new diesel and say an ownership span over 300,000km
Try 200,000k Actually closer 4K Difference not that much really v6 requires things that diesel does not Stay tuned Diesel great fuel savings in low range and towing about 1/2 that’s what it’s for. On road 10lph vs 14lph is the comparison 40,000k a year if you have 4x4 and a life 😉🙏✌️ Otherwise drive the hybrid Corolla 😉🙏✌️
@@Fourby4Diesel Ant, i agree that V6 (at the current fuel price differential) over a 300k ownership is more expensive. aside from the usual servicing items I only ever change iridium spark plugs every100K- what other things are required of V6 you talked about? I would advocate people who are a 2 car family where one doesnt get used too much buy a cheap (low range) electric for all those school run and short trips and leaving the Prado for longer drive and big trips - best of both worlds really - we are constantly amazed how comfortable the 16year old Prado 120 still is on big trip even compared to the new 2022 Prado (new better but only by a little bit)- that V6 is still silky smooth with great overtaking power
@@-bro7453 In Canada, rebuild engine (150,000kms from Japan is cheaper to import than local) + shop labour 160$/h + new pump, chain etc adds up to 20,000$ all in + tax.
I bought a used 07 Tacoma 6spd with the TRD supercharger and change the oil every 2500 to 3000 miles. That engine absolutely rips at 7 psi. Carfax showed the oil was changed every 2800 miles on average by the previous owner since new. I did not hesitate to buy it.
Love the V6 videos! The takeaway I have been getting from these is to change my oil every 6 mths even though I will only likely do 3-5000 klm in short city trips with the occasional freeway runs. I asked my mechanic to drop the sump for the last service in January, he talked me out of it, now I want it done stat :)
I have 2 FJs one with 145,000 the other with 406,000 kms and a 4.0 V6 79 with 37,000. As I cannot get more than 10K kms per year on all three cars I change tbe oils once a year at about 7K kms each. I love the V6s especially at sea level where the power and torque is great.
I have changed my oil at 5k from new in my 1GR-FE pulled the sump to clean the pick up at 120,000 klm was a waste time the pick up was spotless and no sludge in sump.
My previous white 120 V6 (04 GXL Manual) which my wife mostly drove developed a radiator leak in summer & she overheated it which warped the heads. Got it rebuilt here in Perth with sourcing another set of heads that were recon'd locally. The block was tested & bored for oversize new pistons. Total cost was $10k but that included new radiator, new injectors, new coils, new fuel pump in tank, new MAF, new water pump, new Thermostat housing etc etc and it ran sweet with more plenty of power (very noticeable). However we ended up selling it as my wife wanted an Auto (more user friendly for her in city traffic) so i upgraded to a late 07 Black 120 V6 120 GXL and just absolutely love this one even more. Did lots of mods - upgraded Kings/Bilstein suspension, black D-Slot dynamic H/Duty rims, Shortie Extractors, custom S/Steel exhaust with highflow S/S muffler replacing factory muffler (awsome note) , Rear diff Harrop E-locker, swapped out the headlights for black Binnacle LED headlights, LED Spotties, tailights swapped out for more modern LED units, aftermarket black sports grille, Rear slideout draws, dropdown rear door table, side awning, Redark BCDC dual battery system, redark towkit, Clarion headunit with GPS etc. This Prado is spotless including underneath with zero fluid/grease seepage as that is the way i like it and maintenance to the whole car is the key. I only use Penrite fluid products on all my cars These quadcam 120 V6's are awsome engines if well maintained ( helps that i have my own workshop with a hoist & very mechanically minded). The later models are better - 07/08/09
I have a 120 series 1grfe 4lt engine, it now has 505000ks on it, I do change engine oil filters etc every 5 to 8 thousand ks ful synthetic oil 15w40 mainly nulan oil, I do this because I can't afford a new car, and it has paid of look at the ks again, and these advises from Anthony and his team are very important to us older motorist, he has save myself heaps of money and heart ache thanks A.
Toyota engines MUST be serviced at proper servicing intervals or they will fail. Toyota engines are manufactured very well with quality components but they are dependent on maintenance. Looking at these engine internals here it looks like it was neglected thus why it failed.
Okay just about every workshop you can think of would do butchers work like this that’s the easy way to do it and we don’t have to deal with 1000 legal threats
@@Fourby4Diesel yep as a business person you would know the legal threats to come if you named the business. Smart move not mentioning the business who rebuilt it. Not worth the hassles. Feel sorry for the poor bloke at nearly 19k for a rebuild
Good engines require good maintenance. I'm seriously thinking about using this engine and the corresponding Tacoma tranny in an early 90's Toyota one ton. Sooo many things to like about this engine.
Bought an 08 Lux V6 2 months ago. Had service history from toyota from new till 110000. Then nothing till 160000 and nothing till 210000. I bought at 220000. Got her home, pulled valve covers off, looks brand new. As for the oil pick up, cant see it in the 08 lux as you know. Have to take sump off which is not a quick job. Im gunna wing it and hope. Oil neck was pretty clean apart from varnish. Oil itself looked ok on 1st flush. No water or fuel in oil. Runs perfect. Factory fuel burn of 13.5 per 100. Zero leaks. After 10 years with a diesel navara str, the v6 has won me. Really good responsive power. This car feels like it could do 500000 no probs
I got a 2008 4 liter v6. Has 310000 kilometers in it. I change the oil mostly in it, every 10.000 kilometers. It is a glass carrying vehicle. From day one has a constant one tone on it! Uses 16 liters of petrol, and replaced one oxygen sensor on the exhaust so far only.
everything is getting old and it was hard to find good vehicles with good reliable history 5 years ago, with everything getting silly prices people are selling off junk and saying it gold. does not matter what fuel it drinks. if you buy anything over 5 years old you are rolling the dice 🎲
I had a Tacoma with the 1gr-fe. I sold it at 270,xxx miles on it. During its time with me the did almost nothing to the engine and had it red lined most weekends in the woods😂 never let me down.
That’s what you call lack of maintenance you change oil every 5 to 6000 miles or 8200 to 10,000 kilometers this is what happens when owners fails to change oil The engine blows up or burns oil excessively
My 120 has no service history of late. Done my own service since new. Oil changes every 5000. 330,000 still going like new… I am thinking of bringing it in for you to go through it before I hand it down to my son.. Edit: I don’t do brakes. That I leave to someone else.
I wish all mechanics were like you. I keep trying new mechanics and keep getting disapointed. I just keep getting half ass jobs or fix 2 things and not the 3 thing. Bullshit excuses yeah steering boxes make a squeal noise if you steer too far in either direction. that's funny never used too. If you don't want the work just say so. I don't even mind paying a bit above the going rate, I just want it fixed/serviced properly and correctly. No cut corners, No cheap 2nd rate parts or fluids! Just do what your being payed good money to do, take the time you need and charge what you need to charge to do it RIGHT. Fair Dinkum how do you find someone who likes doing things Right and tells you to replace / service things before they shit themselves?
Yep it’s hard to find a good honest one some times. If I needed any major work done and I lived down where Fourby4diesel has his work shop I’d have no hesitation on taking my vehicle there and especially a Prado. If you watch a lot of his videos you can just tell he takes pride in what he does. In my earlier days I’ve had some dodgy work done by both mechanics and 4x4 shops who fit all the gear, I’ve got a shop in seven hills in nsw who I’ve used twice and he is brilliant.
Had one in a 2005 Hilux, great engine and I was always religious with services on it. Sold it with 286k ks (only just run in) Good advice once again Anthony 🍻
Question: Would cleaning oil pickup and pan then the good engine flushes help if your not sure on prior maintenance, If the engine still sounds nice? I have gad my prado 120v6 for 6 years all servicing done by me.
I wish I had seen this proir to last weekend ! V6 hilux, Seller couldn't provide service history, no obvious issues, clean dipstick ... I have now checked inside of oil cap ... fml! Time for some preventative maintenance 😬
@@Fourby4Diesel my best suggestion - drop the sump look at the condition - scrap off as much gum as possible where you can reach - run some fresh oil with a 20% mix of diesel or kero for 100km on gentle no more 3000rpm then drop the oil and do the next oil change on 1000km-2000km. keep your oil change at 5000km rather than 10,000km - and cut as much as possible the short trips you do... if not enough damage has been done, you will still be ok
The 1GR-FE is the most reliable Toyota Engine IMHO. In the Middle East, most desert safari companies use V6 land cruisers, and they have this Engine. These cars drive in extreme conditions with 8 pax, 365 days. Many of them have clocked 1M km in less than 10 years without any Engine failure.
So the problem with the 1GR isn't the engine but the people who own them and don't maintain them... Unlike the 1kd that will still go bang with religious maintenance.
Firstly there is no way I'd spend $20k on a used prado. Part it out and move on. Secondly this is one of my favourite engines . Had a 04 prado 120, gave to my sister and she has 400,000 of school and sport runs and camping from Brisbane. With only minor servicing from an old timer cheap mechanic . Powerful, smooth, quiet, good on fuel
I'm conflicted when watching this video, on one hand, I totally agree with buying a vehicle with full-service history, but on the other hand, the video infers that an owner can't service their own vehicle and still sell it for decent money at the end of the day. Servicing a car is not hard, it's not rocket science and as Anthony shows in many other videos it all can be done easily DIY. Without going through a mechanic you have no proof of service so what do you suppose for all the people that do their own servicing?
Mate once warranty is up I’ve serviced all mine at home. I use genuine parts, I keep the receipts from Toyota along with a stapled copy of the eftpos machine. I write on the recipe the date, the klms and throw it in the log books which I keep in my office at home not in the car so that way they don’t get lost and if some one breaks into the car there’s no books to flog or use as a fire starter. I’ve sold all 4 prado’s privately with no questions asked in regards to the servicing and my proof of servicing. I also use the camera at certain intervals and screen shot off the phone and keep in the books. The bloke who bought my last 150 off me last year was very impressed. My wife’s merc I don’t touch as it still under warranty as well but being euro build I get rid of them before the warranty’s up. The only thing I get done in workshops is transmission flushes or any major work like head on the diesel Prado I had.
Never buy a secondhand Ladycruiser. They are mostly driven by women who think maintenance isn’t needed around the time warranty runs out. Pro tip: If you keep your car for a long time, change your oil every 5000kms (cheaper mineral is fine) and oil filter every 10000kms.
can you suggest me what to do? I am looking at one 2003, 250 k km on the clock and regular oil changes until 2019, now the cas has been driving minilally and no oil change since. Should i get the car inspected or just walk away ?
You can get into certain areas to give you a rough idea but you can’t get one in to check the pick up in the V6, the diesel is directly over the sump plug hole. Only was to check the pick up is as Fourby4diesel has mentioned
So I'm looking at a 2015 FJ Cruiser which looks fairly tidy but has a few 15,000km (9,000 mi) service gaps and one 20,000km (12,000 mi) service gap (but still 6 months because highway kms). It currently has 120,000km on it. Would you recommend avoiding this and strictly searching for a vehicle with 10,000km intervals or would it probably be ok?
Just purchased a 2015 4Runner 6 months ago. Started noticing a noise that matched the RPMs. Took it to the dealer and got quoted $6k to replace oil pump, timing parts and water pump. 160,000 miles on the vehicle. Heard the same thing on the service. “Everything has been serviced”.
My previous white 120 V6 (04 GXL Manual) which my wife mostly drove developed a radiator leak in summer & she overheated it which warped the heads. Got it rebuilt here in Perth with sourcing another set of heads that were recon'd locally. The block was tested & bored for oversize new pistons. Total cost was $10k but that included new radiator, new injectors, new coils, new fuel pump in tank, new MAF, new water pump, new Thermostat housing etc etc and it ran sweet with more plenty of power (very noticeable). However we ended up selling it as my wife wanted an Auto (more user friendly in city traffic) so i upgraded to a 07 Black 120 V6 120 GXL and just love this one even more Did lots of mods - upgraded suspension, Shortie Extractors, custom S/Steel mandrel bent exhaust (awsome note) , Rear diff locker, swapped out the headlights for black Binnacle LED headlights, LED Spotties, tailights swapped out for LED units, Rear slideout draws, dropdown rear door table, side awning, Redark BCDC dual battery system, redark towkit, Clarion headunit with GPS etc. These quadcam 120 V6's are awsome engines if well maintained ( helps that i have my own workshop with a hoist & very mechanically minded). The later models are better - 07/08/09
Normally I'd jump in to defend the V6 too, but this is all user error, bad maintenance and a dodgy rebuild. Glad I got mine when I did, still had low K's with full verifiable history. I've said this many times, but I'm certain the reason the V6 sold so few toward it's end in 2017 (locally), is because nobody knew it was an option, and nobody was told how poorly suited the diesel was for short commute driving.
Yes 1KD is reliable, but it is too much of a work horse. It is lazy and vibrates like crazy. Sound is nothing short of a Toyta Hiace from 1988. Some people can not live with that. I pesonally would choose 1GR over 1KD everytime, but if you are a man you forget Prado and go for big brother the real land cruiser with V8! That 4.5 diesel is just lovely engine and sounds so good. Can pull and has torque and still reasonable gas mileage.
I could literally sit eyes closed and voice cancellation headphones on in a car that has 1KD and after start i could tell just from the ass feeling that this is 1KD four banger under the hood. @@Fourby4Diesel
I've got a petrol version LC200. The main reason is the climate. Every year it hit -40 Celsius minimum. Diesel freezes up. Also, diesel availability of sufficient quality outside the handful of main cities is low. Different circumstances, different choices.
@@Fourby4Diesel it's why even though I'm no longer in the trade I still do all my work my self... It's so nice seeing someone else care about simple things about hoses, lines etc being clipped in!
I have this engine in my hilux, Had it for ten years and when it rolled over 300K I spoke to A mechanic about changing the timing chain, he told me not to worry about it until a light came on as it was a big job... Not sure how correct that is. Haven't been back to them.. Learned about changing coolant the hard way in hindsight.
No reason to change a timing chain in the V6. Generally only if the engine has been neglected would you need to change the timing chain and that would probably be around the same time you would do a rebuild due to neglect. If serviced well there would be virtually no reason to change it
The 1GR-FE is an excellent motor. When serviced normally, it will last a super long time. Super reliable engine. Whenever owners skimp on maintenance, then that's when problems arise. No fault of this engine at all.
Exactly. 5000 mile oil changes, oil filter, OEM 2x a year, Costco gas, 150k and going strong.
My 1 GRFE has 330,000 miles on it. It runs like a princess.
timing chain issues
As its said. Pay now. Or. Pay a LOT later.
This. This is a GREAT engine. Clickbait title.
As a retired mechanic and proud owner of a 2012 Hilux with the 1GR-FE. Religious 10K servicing using a Mineral oil, I truly expect to cover more than 500,000kms and beyond .
Hey from the USA here, 5th gen 4runner’s here run like nobody’s business. Strong , reliable , although loud engine, it is by design, love the 1GR-FE. We’re not gonna get these kind of engines anymore in modern times.
In USA people
Reporting they are getting 500000miles out of the same engine. Just change oils regularly
It’s an awesome engine the warning is about the ones that are not service properly some people seem to have missed that point it is a very important key point
@@Fourby4Diesel agree.
I just hit 540000 miles. 2012 tacoma. Iv only changed the valve cover gasket. Still has lots of power. Not burning through oil. Solid
I only defend when people talk 🐂💩 As you know I’ve had 3 of the V6 prado’s, the first one now is running around with over 400 thou on it now. It’s only people people who get on face book and bag out the V6 because, one, they have never owned one and comment about how thirsty they are, or the motors are 💩 etc, or 2 the motor has gone bang and you ask them have you had it since new, the answer is no. So then you ask them about the service history, oh yes it’s got a full service history the car yard said, so you have every receipt for the 10k or 6 month services, um no there are no log books. Then I say so you have zero history of the cars scheduled servicing but you want to bag out how bad the V6 are 🤔🤔. A lot of people again who have never owned one comment on how much better they are over the diesel. I’ve also had a diesel Prado to compare. You can’t tell me that the V6 is not cheaper to service over let’s say a 200 thou period especially in the 150 series of both the V6 and the 3.0L . Injector replacement on the D4D what 2500 to 3k, transfer pump, $1500, timing belt, there’s 4 & 1/2 k to start with, some thing you never need to do in the petrol Prado because one they don’t have a belt, they don’t have a transfer pump, and the injectors are known for doing 300thou plus and more with out replacement . You pay more for the diesel in the first place to buy, generally if you watch the fuel cycle here in Sydney at least you can buy petrol cheaper at the bowser than diesel, I only ever used genuine parts on all my.prado’s. If Toyota bought out another V6 I would have updated to another one but I fortunately they didn’t. Will wait and see what Toyota bring out next. I’m not anti diesel, but people who have never owned a petrol Prado and make a load of 🐂💩 comments about an engine they know nothing about are the ones that make a 🍆 of them selves. And yes I’m defending the V6 again as you new I would.
Steve RM. True mate I’ve seen next to no issues with Toyota petrols in general Bullet proof .Australia is very biest. When it comes to diesel/petrol .Toyota vehicles next to no issues in petrols way cheaper In service costs too.
Have you owned a 150 series diesel Prado to compare? Or are you doing the exact thing you said, “A lot of people again who have never owned one comment”.😂
Agree 100% 1GRFE is best Toyota engine
@@PP-bm7zp nope never said I did. Mine was a kz. But tell me I’m wrong about any thing I have mentioned in my reply about the cost of injectors for a 1kd supply n fit ?? Tell me I’m wrong that the person who posted this video and is a well known mechanic and a good one at that who has mentioned about having the injectors replaced before 200 thou ?? Tell me I’m wrong that in the maintenance schedule in a 150 diesel that you are required to change the transfer pump at 150 k ?? Tell me I’m wrong that the V6 doesn’t contain a timing belt like the 3.0L does that needs replacing on the 1kd at 150k ?? Then along with that is the recommended replacement of water pump etc while the belt is being done to save on maintenance costs from having to do it before the next belt change is due. Tell me I’m wrong that people who have never owned a petrol Prado carry on about how thirsty they are to run yet when asked if they own one they don’t but theirs mums dads brothers uncles friend has one he said it’s thirsty
@@PP-bm7zp Are you suggesting the diesel 150s don't have the problems listed above? Not exactly bagging them if they are widely known and acknowledged issues...
"Don't buy one of the most reliable V6 engines ever made because this one bloke got one that had shoddy maintenance and an even more shoddy replacement" 😂😂😂
If the heads are good, you can get a 1GR-FE short block from Toyota for like $4-5k USD. They are proud of those dual VVT-I heads tho 😂
You mentioned the 202 cubic inch (remember saying that?!) Holden Red motor was in my first car: Holden Kingswood HJ with a manual “three on the tree” and a standard banjo diff.
I compression tested all cylinders prior to purchase and they were within roughly 5 PSI.
Anyway, I remember actually standing beside the engine once just to see if I could. No power steering, no AC rubbish.
I repaired the rust inside and out and Re sprayed in a Dulux industrial protecting paint white and black in the boot/towbar.
Was a labour of love.
The simplicity was so good.
The reliably was good.
Miss the old girl.
Paid $1300
Whoever did the job should be shot😢….
I have a 280k v6, a new Prado 150 diesel, can’t bring myself selling the v6 after 6 months ownership of the new one… only thing I hate about the v6 is fill up time, expect 15-18l/100km if you do mostly 40-60km road - highway touring with full load - 11-13l/100km… towing 1.3 ton camper on 80-110km/hr road 17-19l/100km
I would change the oil every 5000km if doing mostly town or even shorter distance if you do a lot sub 5km trips - there must be a lot crankcase condensation- short trip doesn’t help burning the water vapor off…
I got similar v6 and brand new diesel prado. Few days ago i had a thought of selling my new Prado, will give it another month and see if its a keeper. Dpf burns every 200kms, average fuel consumption 10.5l with most of it was on freeway.
Great advice as always
so i think we can all agree that the V6 is bulletproof but ONLY if it has had regular oil change. I would say Diesel has few more expensive service items to pay if you look at the life cycle of the engine - injectors every 150K for 1KD and associated items puts about $5k out of pocket every 150,000km - but that's obviously offset by fuel saving (at the current price trend, difference is about $650 saving every 10,000km in my scenario) - So theoratically still cheaper to own a diesel if you could buy a new V6 and new diesel and say an ownership span over 300,000km
Try 200,000k
Actually closer 4K
Difference not that much really v6 requires things that diesel does not
Stay tuned
Diesel great fuel savings in low range and towing about 1/2 that’s what it’s for. On road 10lph vs 14lph is the comparison 40,000k a year if you have 4x4 and a life 😉🙏✌️
Otherwise drive the hybrid Corolla 😉🙏✌️
@@Fourby4Diesel Ant, i agree that V6 (at the current fuel price differential) over a 300k ownership is more expensive.
aside from the usual servicing items I only ever change iridium spark plugs every100K- what other things are required of V6 you talked about?
I would advocate people who are a 2 car family where one doesnt get used too much buy a cheap (low range) electric for all those school run and short trips and leaving the Prado for longer drive and big trips - best of both worlds really - we are constantly amazed how comfortable the 16year old Prado 120 still is on big trip even compared to the new 2022 Prado (new better but only by a little bit)- that V6 is still silky smooth with great overtaking power
Thanks Ant appreciate the v6 videos. That business needs to be closed down.
Just keep the V6 videos coming the more information I have, the better off I'll be. Thanks for the video
Here in the US you can buy a rebuilt 1GR-FE V6 4.0 ltr engine for less than $5 grand, so are you saying where you are at it cost $20,000????
1grfe go for 5-10 k second hand in Australia
@@-bro7453 In Canada, rebuild engine (150,000kms from Japan is cheaper to import than local) + shop labour 160$/h + new pump, chain etc adds up to 20,000$ all in + tax.
I bought a used 07 Tacoma 6spd with the TRD supercharger and change the oil every 2500 to 3000 miles. That engine absolutely rips at 7 psi. Carfax showed the oil was changed every 2800 miles on average by the previous owner since new. I did not hesitate to buy it.
Love the V6 videos! The takeaway I have been getting from these is to change my oil every 6 mths even though I will only likely do 3-5000 klm in short city trips with the occasional freeway runs. I asked my mechanic to drop the sump for the last service in January, he talked me out of it, now I want it done stat :)
I have 2 FJs one with 145,000 the other with 406,000 kms and a 4.0 V6 79 with 37,000. As I cannot get more than 10K kms per year on all three cars I change tbe oils once a year at about 7K kms each. I love the V6s especially at sea level where the power and torque is great.
I have had vehicles from US manufacturer, German makers but this engine from Toyota is the absolute best I have owned.
I have changed my oil at 5k from new in my 1GR-FE pulled the sump to clean the pick up at 120,000 klm was a waste time the pick up was spotless and no sludge in sump.
The title is misleading, this has nothing to do with the 1GR-FE and all about any engine on any used car.
My previous white 120 V6 (04 GXL Manual) which my wife mostly drove developed a radiator leak in summer & she overheated it which warped the heads. Got it rebuilt here in Perth with sourcing another set of heads that were recon'd locally. The block was tested & bored for oversize new pistons. Total cost was $10k but that included new radiator, new injectors, new coils, new fuel pump in tank, new MAF, new water pump, new Thermostat housing etc etc and it ran sweet with more plenty of power (very noticeable).
However we ended up selling it as my wife wanted an Auto (more user friendly for her in city traffic) so i upgraded to a late 07 Black 120 V6 120 GXL and just absolutely love this one even more.
Did lots of mods - upgraded Kings/Bilstein suspension, black D-Slot dynamic H/Duty rims, Shortie Extractors, custom S/Steel exhaust with highflow S/S muffler replacing factory muffler (awsome note) , Rear diff Harrop E-locker, swapped out the headlights for black Binnacle LED headlights, LED Spotties, tailights swapped out for more modern LED units, aftermarket black sports grille, Rear slideout draws, dropdown rear door table, side awning, Redark BCDC dual battery system, redark towkit, Clarion headunit with GPS etc. This Prado is spotless including underneath with zero fluid/grease seepage as that is the way i like it and maintenance to the whole car is the key. I only use Penrite fluid products on all my cars
These quadcam 120 V6's are awsome engines if well maintained ( helps that i have my own workshop with a hoist & very mechanically minded). The later models are better - 07/08/09
I have a 120 series 1grfe 4lt engine, it now has 505000ks on it, I do change engine oil filters etc every 5 to 8 thousand ks ful synthetic oil 15w40 mainly nulan oil, I do this because I can't afford a new car, and it has paid of look at the ks again, and these advises from Anthony and his team are very important to us older motorist, he has save myself heaps of money and heart ache thanks A.
Toyota engines MUST be serviced at proper servicing intervals or they will fail. Toyota engines are manufactured very well with quality components but they are dependent on maintenance. Looking at these engine internals here it looks like it was neglected thus why it failed.
Hilux 680km on a customer of mine . He only brings it in every 20000km for service. 15w40 semi syn. Original motor.
"There's no point in naming names". Obviously there is a point. Preventing more people from being ripped off. Name names for god's sake.
Okay just about every workshop you can think of would do butchers work like this that’s the easy way to do it and we don’t have to deal with 1000 legal threats
@@Fourby4Diesel yep as a business person you would know the legal threats to come if you named the business. Smart move not mentioning the business who rebuilt it. Not worth the hassles. Feel sorry for the poor bloke at nearly 19k for a rebuild
These arent Ford 300 i6 engines. The oil must be changed regularly for them to acheive a full lifespan.
5k miles/6 months or more frequent.
I love my 1grfe. Its in my xrunner and it is a blast!!!! With 132xxx ita still very quite.
Good engines require good maintenance. I'm seriously thinking about using this engine and the corresponding Tacoma tranny in an early 90's Toyota one ton. Sooo many things to like about this engine.
Bought an 08 Lux V6 2 months ago. Had service history from toyota from new till 110000. Then nothing till 160000 and nothing till 210000. I bought at 220000. Got her home, pulled valve covers off, looks brand new. As for the oil pick up, cant see it in the 08 lux as you know. Have to take sump off which is not a quick job. Im gunna wing it and hope. Oil neck was pretty clean apart from varnish. Oil itself looked ok on 1st flush. No water or fuel in oil. Runs perfect. Factory fuel burn of 13.5 per 100. Zero leaks. After 10 years with a diesel navara str, the v6 has won me. Really good responsive power. This car feels like it could do 500000 no probs
I got a 2008 4 liter v6. Has 310000 kilometers in it. I change the oil mostly in it, every 10.000 kilometers. It is a glass carrying vehicle. From day one has a constant one tone on it! Uses 16 liters of petrol, and replaced one oxygen sensor on the exhaust so far only.
everything is getting old and it was hard to find good vehicles with good reliable history 5 years ago, with everything getting silly prices people are selling off junk and saying it gold. does not matter what fuel it drinks. if you buy anything over 5 years old you are rolling the dice 🎲
The V6 is such a superior engine, I cant fathom why people buy the diesel
Because it’s better especially for 4x4 and towing economy
2015 hilux 3ltr diesel over half million klm still running strong
What's your opinion on the 2tr-fe petrol 2.7 if serviced regularly.
200k miles Down. Doesn’t burn oil or leak. Look forward to the next 200
I had a Tacoma with the 1gr-fe. I sold it at 270,xxx miles on it. During its time with me the did almost nothing to the engine and had it red lined most weekends in the woods😂 never let me down.
Good advice thank you Anthony👍
Often it is recommended to run it with water till the first service to allow the gaskets to seal properly
Good grief. I bet old mate feels like he’s been bent over.
Yes 20k for a V6 rebuild. Doesn’t cost that much for diesel. Unfortunately some one saw him coming.
Yes hard to f**k these engine's up, i tried doing my front cover and awesome messed my engine.
That’s what you call lack of maintenance you change oil every 5 to 6000 miles or 8200 to 10,000 kilometers this is what happens when owners fails to change oil The engine blows up or burns oil excessively
My 120 has no service history of late. Done my own service since new. Oil changes every 5000.
330,000 still going like new…
I am thinking of bringing it in for you to go through it before I hand it down to my son..
Edit: I don’t do brakes. That I leave to someone else.
I didn’t think you could rebore a 1gr block?
I wish all mechanics were like you. I keep trying new mechanics and keep getting disapointed. I just keep getting half ass jobs or fix 2 things and not the 3 thing. Bullshit excuses yeah steering boxes make a squeal noise if you steer too far in either direction. that's funny never used too. If you don't want the work just say so. I don't even mind paying a bit above the going rate, I just want it fixed/serviced properly and correctly. No cut corners, No cheap 2nd rate parts or fluids! Just do what your being payed good money to do, take the time you need and charge what you need to charge to do it RIGHT. Fair Dinkum how do you find someone who likes doing things Right and tells you to replace / service things before they shit themselves?
Yep it’s hard to find a good honest one some times. If I needed any major work done and I lived down where Fourby4diesel has his work shop I’d have no hesitation on taking my vehicle there and especially a Prado. If you watch a lot of his videos you can just tell he takes pride in what he does. In my earlier days I’ve had some dodgy work done by both mechanics and 4x4 shops who fit all the gear, I’ve got a shop in seven hills in nsw who I’ve used twice and he is brilliant.
Had one in a 2005 Hilux, great engine and I was always religious with services on it. Sold it with 286k ks (only just run in) Good advice once again Anthony 🍻
Question:
Would cleaning oil pickup and pan then the good engine flushes help if your not sure on prior maintenance,
If the engine still sounds nice?
I have gad my prado 120v6 for 6 years all servicing done by me.
Honestly, thanks for the vid mate!
I wish I had seen this proir to last weekend !
V6 hilux, Seller couldn't provide service history, no obvious issues, clean dipstick ...
I have now checked inside of oil cap ... fml! Time for some preventative maintenance 😬
Sorry, it’s my fault. I should’ve done more on this mini years ago, but the defendants were tiring.
@@Fourby4Diesel my best suggestion - drop the sump look at the condition - scrap off as much gum as possible where you can reach - run some fresh oil with a 20% mix of diesel or kero for 100km on gentle no more 3000rpm then drop the oil and do the next oil change on 1000km-2000km. keep your oil change at 5000km rather than 10,000km - and cut as much as possible the short trips you do... if not enough damage has been done, you will still be ok
@@Fourby4Diesel it least I know now! As per suggestion I will be dropping the stump and checking that oil pick up before going anywhere else!
What a lot of waffle. Get on with it.
Wow - lost for words
Sounds like ya paying out a good engine from a bad experience.
I know Stu sent you the V6 is a heap of crap biggest heap of crap ever built
The 1GR-FE is the most reliable Toyota Engine IMHO. In the Middle East, most desert safari companies use V6 land cruisers, and they have this Engine. These cars drive in extreme conditions with 8 pax, 365 days. Many of them have clocked 1M km in less than 10 years without any Engine failure.
So the problem with the 1GR isn't the engine but the people who own them and don't maintain them...
Unlike the 1kd that will still go bang with religious maintenance.
Firstly there is no way I'd spend $20k on a used prado. Part it out and move on.
Secondly this is one of my favourite engines . Had a 04 prado 120, gave to my sister and she has 400,000 of school and sport runs and camping from Brisbane. With only minor servicing from an old timer cheap mechanic . Powerful, smooth, quiet, good on fuel
I'm conflicted when watching this video, on one hand, I totally agree with buying a vehicle with full-service history, but on the other hand, the video infers that an owner can't service their own vehicle and still sell it for decent money at the end of the day. Servicing a car is not hard, it's not rocket science and as Anthony shows in many other videos it all can be done easily DIY. Without going through a mechanic you have no proof of service so what do you suppose for all the people that do their own servicing?
Keep the receipts, simple
Mate once warranty is up I’ve serviced all mine at home. I use genuine parts, I keep the receipts from Toyota along with a stapled copy of the eftpos machine. I write on the recipe the date, the klms and throw it in the log books which I keep in my office at home not in the car so that way they don’t get lost and if some one breaks into the car there’s no books to flog or use as a fire starter. I’ve sold all 4 prado’s privately with no questions asked in regards to the servicing and my proof of servicing. I also use the camera at certain intervals and screen shot off the phone and keep in the books. The bloke who bought my last 150 off me last year was very impressed. My wife’s merc I don’t touch as it still under warranty as well but being euro build I get rid of them before the warranty’s up. The only thing I get done in workshops is transmission flushes or any major work like head on the diesel Prado I had.
It’s me ur referring too.. what a privilege to be mentioned in ur video 😂 loose crank angle sensor cable 👍🏼
There is a number of people around that have had problems and replied to various posts
Never buy a secondhand Ladycruiser. They are mostly driven by women who think maintenance isn’t needed around the time warranty runs out.
Pro tip:
If you keep your car for a long time, change your oil every 5000kms (cheaper mineral is fine) and oil filter every 10000kms.
can you suggest me what to do? I am looking at one 2003, 250 k km on the clock and regular oil changes until 2019, now the cas has been driving minilally and no oil change since. Should i get the car inspected or just walk away ?
I’ve got a V6 120 you can buy. You won’t find much wrong with it either 😉😂💪
How much
Can you get an endoscope into significant locations during an inspection?
Remove sump
You can get into certain areas to give you a rough idea but you can’t get one in to check the pick up in the V6, the diesel is directly over the sump plug hole. Only was to check the pick up is as Fourby4diesel has mentioned
225k on my fj cruiser and not so much as a tick or groan. Has the updated 1gr-fe.
Toyota says to never rebuild this engine, you just replace it with a $2k used unit.
So I'm looking at a 2015 FJ Cruiser which looks fairly tidy but has a few 15,000km (9,000 mi) service gaps and one 20,000km (12,000 mi) service gap (but still 6 months because highway kms). It currently has 120,000km on it.
Would you recommend avoiding this and strictly searching for a vehicle with 10,000km intervals or would it probably be ok?
Just finished the whole vid. Question answered.
Just purchased a 2015 4Runner 6 months ago. Started noticing a noise that matched the RPMs. Took it to the dealer and got quoted $6k to replace oil pump, timing parts and water pump. 160,000 miles on the vehicle. Heard the same thing on the service. “Everything has been serviced”.
My previous white 120 V6 (04 GXL Manual) which my wife mostly drove developed a radiator leak in summer & she overheated it which warped the heads. Got it rebuilt here in Perth with sourcing another set of heads that were recon'd locally. The block was tested & bored for oversize new pistons. Total cost was $10k but that included new radiator, new injectors, new coils, new fuel pump in tank, new MAF, new water pump, new Thermostat housing etc etc and it ran sweet with more plenty of power (very noticeable).
However we ended up selling it as my wife wanted an Auto (more user friendly in city traffic) so i upgraded to a 07 Black 120 V6 120 GXL and just love this one even more
Did lots of mods - upgraded suspension, Shortie Extractors, custom S/Steel mandrel bent exhaust (awsome note) , Rear diff locker, swapped out the headlights for black Binnacle LED headlights, LED Spotties, tailights swapped out for LED units, Rear slideout draws, dropdown rear door table, side awning, Redark BCDC dual battery system, redark towkit, Clarion headunit with GPS etc.
These quadcam 120 V6's are awsome engines if well maintained ( helps that i have my own workshop with a hoist & very mechanically minded). The later models are better - 07/08/09
Anti TOYOTA bull$$t. Just keep regular maintenance schedule and will runs long, long, loooooong time.
Normally I'd jump in to defend the V6 too, but this is all user error, bad maintenance and a dodgy rebuild. Glad I got mine when I did, still had low K's with full verifiable history.
I've said this many times, but I'm certain the reason the V6 sold so few toward it's end in 2017 (locally), is because nobody knew it was an option, and nobody was told how poorly suited the diesel was for short commute driving.
this is a DIY or a backyardy job. no way this was done in a workshop
Thanks
My Tacoma with a 1GR has 230k and counting
Yes 1KD is reliable, but it is too much of a work horse. It is lazy and vibrates like crazy. Sound is nothing short of a Toyta Hiace from 1988. Some people can not live with that. I pesonally would choose 1GR over 1KD everytime, but if you are a man you forget Prado and go for big brother the real land cruiser with V8! That 4.5 diesel is just lovely engine and sounds so good. Can pull and has torque and still reasonable gas mileage.
🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like anyone you’ve been in has got some problems. Mine is smooth as silk sounds like you’re talking about something from the 1800s.
I could literally sit eyes closed and voice cancellation headphones on in a car that has 1KD and after start i could tell just from the ass feeling that this is 1KD four banger under the hood. @@Fourby4Diesel
I've got a petrol version LC200. The main reason is the climate. Every year it hit -40 Celsius minimum. Diesel freezes up. Also, diesel availability of sufficient quality outside the handful of main cities is low. Different circumstances, different choices.
Also when the parts get close to that in the engine does the sound change?
What are we looking for?
I listen to my engine a lot and car in general.
Yikes, thats a hack job of an R&R. Nasty...
So sad to see such sloppy workmanship
I hope everybody understands there is no shortage of it which is why I do what I do
@@Fourby4Diesel it's why even though I'm no longer in the trade I still do all my work my self... It's so nice seeing someone else care about simple things about hoses, lines etc being clipped in!
Good advise
I have this engine in my hilux, Had it for ten years and when it rolled over 300K I spoke to A mechanic about changing the timing chain, he told me not to worry about it until a light came on as it was a big job... Not sure how correct that is. Haven't been back to them.. Learned about changing coolant the hard way in hindsight.
No reason to change a timing chain in the V6. Generally only if the engine has been neglected would you need to change the timing chain and that would probably be around the same time you would do a rebuild due to neglect. If serviced well there would be virtually no reason to change it
😆 lol its probably one of the best that Toyota has ever produced. This is click bait sh#t.
Cringe