On the off chance you ever decide to do a q&a video: what made you get into growing fungi? are you a vegetarian? do you just really love the taste of mushrooms? how did you get into modular synths? do you tend to gravitate towards electronic music? what's the tastiest mushroom in your opinion? also, how do you tend to cook/eat these buggers? or do you simply eat them raw?
They definitely need to be cooked! They can upset the stomach raw. I tend to pan fry them in butter with garlic and homemade mirin... which is unfortunately running out so I need to make more mirin but that takes months. I’ve been growing oyster and reishi mushrooms for years, I’m not a vegetarian but have always been into permaculture. I think I read mycelia running by Paul Stamets 7 or 8 years ago and that’s what got me started. I did electronic music production as an elective when doing an upright jazz bass program at Berklee when I was in high school. I got a bit hooked but I enjoy all sorts of music. I’m not entirely sure how I fell down the modular hole but ended up working for Make Noise for about 3 years prior to the pandemic. My wife started taking cordyceps and they were very expensive so I decided to try and grow them. Then I decided I would start a business around growing mushrooms because it’s a pandemic and why not... now I think I can just make videos and not actually sell any ready to fruit kits or anything
Very good video! I know alot about fungi and I love growing them but cordyceps is so interesting and foreign to me. I will get there soon. Seems like one of the more advanced strains to grow. Keep up the content!
@@MycoLyco That's weird. The price of cortyceps, and the my permaculture/fungi research has led me here. This will be my first year harvesting wild specimens, for prints, and putting them to agar.
I think I just threw out some wild type of cordyceps lately. My youngest daughter brought home a grasshopper one day. The poor creature was half dead, barely moving. She said it had been like that since she found it. I figured it was probably (and reversibly) dehydrated, she wished (me) to keep it alive, so we transferred the insect to a very large jar, the with some water to drink and some leaves to chew and the lid at an angle, because it wasn't in the mood for an escape anyway. It did not drink, and according to my estimation, it died the same day, but not from suffocation. With her unwilling to believe me that her pet was dead, I kept the jar and the beast for a few more days, and already from day two, stuff kept growing from its - say - hips, until the whole body was pretty much covered in mycelium... or even fruiting body. I kept on watching the process with the lid closed an eventually decided to sanitize the jar contents with boiling water and trust the toilet with it. Sort of regret that decision now, but I did not and still don't know any better. (I still haven't gotten around to growing mushrooms yet.) Any suggestions how I could have safely presserved both my kitchen hygiene and a live culture sample and what I could have done with it or whom I might have reached out to for advice or assistance? Thank you!
What is your process for breeding new strains? Do you just drop mature fruits on agar and see if it forms good growth? Or do you isolate ascospores and mate them with one another?
Can we expect a video on how you have your mushrooms play the synth? I assume there's some electronics behind it, and I'd be very interested to learn more about it. Also really like the shrooms content!
I have a question I made transfers off of very dark pigmented plate but the transfers were not pigmented at all? They grew out nice but stayed completely White. Thank you
Oh just when working with jars and syringes you don’t need to worry white as much about gloves masks and hair. The jars are pretty sealed and flame sterilizing in a flow hood or still air box tend to be enough
Lots of people worry about getting microporous tapes and filter nozzle attachments or patches for the jars FAE. *I just wedge new cigarette filters in tight enough holes to hold them in place* or if mistakes are made with bigger holes, put in extra sections of another filter until nicely does it. Or even Frey the edges to tape to the lid on outside and it hangs in through hole. I didn't know u can get away with not having FAE on LC's. Or is it ot as visible?
LC is ideal for cordyceps, when transferring from agar to LC its important to expose agar to light for 3 days and then transfer the most pigmented section
@@MycoLyco thx man I just started several of my first ever attempts at growing C. Militarus. I followed the egg,yeast,malt, rice recipe. But there was no details on prepping the rice. Already I'm realizing my L.C. was wayyyy too old!! It did grow mycelium though starting at day 5. I'm just learning it needs blue light spectrum? Can u talk about that also
Hi you said that Cordyceps must be cooked, but how about making pills with dehydrated and grounded mushroom? is it safe or can it upset my stomach? (excuse for my english i'm French). Thanks for your videos !
I’m not a doctor so I can’t give any sort of medical advise. According to my research there is a novel protein in cordyceps that should be denatured prior to consumption. Dehydrating at higher temperatures could possibly achieve this
So we can use regular LME culture to expand initially . Then use the egg culture recipie for a few days then transfer to the Brown rice jars? . Can I ask why is this done in jars specifically. Can it be done in a bag with alot more egg culture injected in it?
The egg recipe is a broth used to hydrate and cook the rice. You can grow in bags for sure just hard to get the air exchange right and you don’t want substrate depth to exceed 1.5 inches. I’ve inoculated bags let them colonize and then moved to tubs with good success
Hi one question, once you buy the stuff to make the culture can you just keep it growing if you don't cut all of the fruiting body or are you going to need to keep buying it?
You can sometimes get a second flush from cordyceps but yield is significantly reduced so it’s not really worth it. One LC of master culture can be expanded to about 8000 cc of viable culture which is enough to keep you busy for awhile! After that you can try isolating ascopores and breeding your own culture but unless you wanna do it for interest it’s not really worth the time when there are world class breeders out there doing the work for you
i tried the 3 eggs, yeast, 500Ml of water, and malt extract....35 g of brown rice...blended it all up....pressure cooked......and it looks mushy and the whole quart jar is super full....what did i do wrong?
@@MycoLyco yeah i didn't blend the rice....lol....i think blending the eggs caused too much foam.....with combo of the water was just prolly too much....but it filled the quart jar....so idk....what is the purpose of the eggs? anything else to supplement that? like coconut water? idk much appreciated tho!
@@MycoLyco thx for clearing that up. Another question, when do you know to harvest the fruits? I’ve read some go off of time (days from fruiting or inoculation), and others do it by sight. How it when do you Harvest?
Noah the human, since ur recipe calls for eggs with other small ingredients. Does it not just turn into scrambled eggs when it is being sterilized? To ones that I would want to eat myself of course.
If I were to use pint jars, should I just divide what Jeff recommends directly in half? Half the amount of rice and half the amount of broth per jar? What would you recommend?
Definitely experiment I think around 20 g or rice 32 ml broth would be good. You wanna shoot for about 1 inch of substrate depth once it’s cooked. I multiply my dry rice weight by 1.6 to get broth weight.
Is anyone here able to help a fellow Cordyceps grower? My strains dont want to fruit, still after about 3 weeks of light exposure. I have two strains from two different sources and they both don't wanna come out :( Are there any tricks to get them to pin? Did I possibly get some sinensis strains ?
Could be the culture is old and degraded is it turning orange at all? Also where did you get the culture from? A lot of places don’t sell the best stuff. I’d recommend getting it from Appalachian gold or terrestrial fungi
Could you post a link to the recipe for the lc and the brown rice? When you talk quickly or your voice drops to a certain tone, I can't understand what you're saying. Sorry!! And thanks for the video
Just found this channel, you look exactly like I expected. Bless you, you glorious man.
Haha yea I have the look of a modular mycology head
This was really interesting, I hope we can see more on this side of things!
On the off chance you ever decide to do a q&a video:
what made you get into growing fungi?
are you a vegetarian? do you just really love the taste of mushrooms?
how did you get into modular synths? do you tend to gravitate towards electronic music?
what's the tastiest mushroom in your opinion?
also, how do you tend to cook/eat these buggers? or do you simply eat them raw?
They definitely need to be cooked! They can upset the stomach raw. I tend to pan fry them in butter with garlic and homemade mirin... which is unfortunately running out so I need to make more mirin but that takes months. I’ve been growing oyster and reishi mushrooms for years,
I’m not a vegetarian but have always been into permaculture. I think I read mycelia running by Paul Stamets 7 or 8 years ago and that’s what got me started.
I did electronic music production as an elective when doing an upright jazz bass program at Berklee when I was in high school. I got a bit hooked but I enjoy all sorts of music. I’m not entirely sure how I fell down the modular hole but ended up working for Make Noise for about 3 years prior to the pandemic.
My wife started taking cordyceps and they were very expensive so I decided to try and grow them. Then I decided I would start a business around growing mushrooms because it’s a pandemic and why not... now I think I can just make videos and not actually sell any ready to fruit kits or anything
@@MycoLyco Excellent, thanks for the hasty and comprehensive reply kind sir, cheers
@@MycoLyco what made you steer away from the mushroom farm business?
That was really cool. Now I'm more interested in mushrooms. This was awesome
Awesome!
I think you might be the greatest person who ever lived
Thank you kanye, very cool.
Hell yeah!!! Can't wait to grow some Cordyceps. Thanks for the info!!!
The last of us intensifies
Thats why im growing them😏
Very good video! I know alot about fungi and I love growing them but cordyceps is so interesting and foreign to me. I will get there soon. Seems like one of the more advanced strains to grow. Keep up the content!
Yes they can be a little finicky
I really want to try this
@Chris Gabriel he sells the jars already fixed up?
@Gabriel awesome thanks man !
How did you get into mycology?
Through permaculture, first I was reading Sepp Holzer and before I knew it I was down that Paul Stamets
rabbit hole
@@MycoLyco That's weird. The price of cortyceps, and the my permaculture/fungi research has led me here.
This will be my first year harvesting wild specimens, for prints, and putting them to agar.
Didnt i see you ask this on another channel?
@@sceplecture2382 idk probably
Hahahah why do you think he got into mycology?
That recipe tho. Thanks Appalachian Gold
Love your mushroom music videos but this was super interesting too!
Keep up the good work :)
Please do a Q&A video with the questions made in your videos!!!!
Haha perhaps I shall I’d need to compile a list and I’ve yet to get that organized
Looks like a lot if work (compared to my slime mould breeding). But very exciting! And you cordyceps is beautiful.
They are very pretty 🤩
Jessica Hummel do you have any resources that would explain how to bread slime molds??
I think I just threw out some wild type of cordyceps lately. My youngest daughter brought home a grasshopper one day. The poor creature was half dead, barely moving. She said it had been like that since she found it. I figured it was probably (and reversibly) dehydrated, she wished (me) to keep it alive, so we transferred the insect to a very large jar, the with some water to drink and some leaves to chew and the lid at an angle, because it wasn't in the mood for an escape anyway. It did not drink, and according to my estimation, it died the same day, but not from suffocation. With her unwilling to believe me that her pet was dead, I kept the jar and the beast for a few more days, and already from day two, stuff kept growing from its - say - hips, until the whole body was pretty much covered in mycelium... or even fruiting body. I kept on watching the process with the lid closed an eventually decided to sanitize the jar contents with boiling water and trust the toilet with it.
Sort of regret that decision now, but I did not and still don't know any better. (I still haven't gotten around to growing mushrooms yet.) Any suggestions how I could have safely presserved both my kitchen hygiene and a live culture sample and what I could have done with it or whom I might have reached out to for advice or assistance? Thank you!
What is your process for breeding new strains? Do you just drop mature fruits on agar and see if it forms good growth? Or do you isolate ascospores and mate them with one another?
Can we expect a video on how you have your mushrooms play the synth? I assume there's some electronics behind it, and I'd be very interested to learn more about it. Also really like the shrooms content!
I’ve got a couple now gonna keep making more trying to explain as simple as possible
I have a question I made transfers off of very dark pigmented plate but the transfers were not pigmented at all? They grew out nice but stayed completely White. Thank you
Could I ask about the precautions you talk about around 3:00? Great content so far, and I like this style of video!
Oh just when working with jars and syringes you don’t need to worry white as much about gloves masks and hair. The jars are pretty sealed and flame sterilizing in a flow hood or still air box tend to be enough
Lots of people worry about getting microporous tapes and filter nozzle attachments or patches for the jars FAE. *I just wedge new cigarette filters in tight enough holes to hold them in place* or if mistakes are made with bigger holes, put in extra sections of another filter until nicely does it. Or even Frey the edges to tape to the lid on outside and it hangs in through hole. I didn't know u can get away with not having FAE on LC's. Or is it ot as visible?
hi from Brazil , can you make a video showing how to clone or to use spores and make liquid culture or using agar please?
if I dump the agar culture into the brown rice, will they grow? or is making liquid culture necessary?
LC is ideal for cordyceps, when transferring from agar to LC its important to expose agar to light for 3 days and then transfer the most pigmented section
Plz talk about how to prep the rice. Does it go in dry? Do we first hydrate it like with rye? Thx
Just mix with your broth solution and pressure cook.
@@MycoLyco thx man I just started several of my first ever attempts at growing C. Militarus. I followed the egg,yeast,malt, rice recipe. But there was no details on prepping the rice. Already I'm realizing my L.C. was wayyyy too old!! It did grow mycelium though starting at day 5. I'm just learning it needs blue light spectrum? Can u talk about that also
Is this the same kind that can infect bugs?
Hi you said that Cordyceps must be cooked, but how about making pills with dehydrated and grounded mushroom? is it safe or can it upset my stomach? (excuse for my english i'm French). Thanks for your videos !
I’m not a doctor so I can’t give any sort of medical advise. According to my research there is a novel protein in cordyceps that should be denatured prior to consumption. Dehydrating at higher temperatures could possibly achieve this
If I'm using g a pint jar, what's the ratio of brown rice and broth that I'll have to use instead of using a quarter jar?
So we can use regular LME culture to expand initially . Then use the egg culture recipie for a few days then transfer to the Brown rice jars? . Can I ask why is this done in jars specifically. Can it be done in a bag with alot more egg culture injected in it?
The egg recipe is a broth used to hydrate and cook the rice. You can grow in bags for sure just hard to get the air exchange right and you don’t want substrate depth to exceed 1.5 inches. I’ve inoculated bags let them colonize and then moved to tubs with good success
@@MycoLyco seems like a balls to do without a flow hood. Be my next investment haha
Are you on the shroomery.org? Feel like those guys would love your work
Nope can’t say I’m on there
Our hero
Great content!
Liquid culture jar lids dont need air exchange?
How long did you pressure cook for?
how do you make the liquid culture
Very interesting thanks for your tips
I have a question.
What ingredients do you make liquid culture with?
I use honey and water
I do 4 grams of honey per 100 ml of water has always done well for me.
Hi one question, once you buy the stuff to make the culture can you just keep it growing if you don't cut all of the fruiting body or are you going to need to keep buying it?
You can sometimes get a second flush from cordyceps but yield is significantly reduced so it’s not really worth it. One LC of master culture can be expanded to about 8000 cc of viable culture which is enough to keep you busy for awhile! After that you can try isolating ascopores and breeding your own culture but unless you wanna do it for interest it’s not really worth the time when there are world class breeders out there doing the work for you
Like an extra hairy Vsauce 3:20
What incubation and cultivation temp do you use?
do you use grow lights?
thanks for the rundown. gonna try some new things out. :)
i tried the 3 eggs, yeast, 500Ml of water, and malt extract....35 g of brown rice...blended it all up....pressure cooked......and it looks mushy and the whole quart jar is super full....what did i do wrong?
Wait did you blend the 35 grams of rice with the broth? You wanna do 35 grams rice with like 56 grams of broth. Don’t blend the rice
@@MycoLyco yeah i didn't blend the rice....lol....i think blending the eggs caused too much foam.....with combo of the water was just prolly too much....but it filled the quart jar....so idk....what is the purpose of the eggs? anything else to supplement that? like coconut water? idk much appreciated tho!
Can the cordyceps from one batch be used to start subsequent batches?
Yes
When you add the liquid solution (nutrient broth) to the rice, is the rice already cooked prior to this point?
Nope raw rice with the broth then straight into the pressure cooker
@@MycoLyco thx for clearing that up. Another question, when do you know to harvest the fruits? I’ve read some go off of time (days from fruiting or inoculation), and others do it by sight. How it when do you Harvest?
Noah the human, since ur recipe calls for eggs with other small ingredients. Does it not just turn into scrambled eggs when it is being sterilized? To ones that I would want to eat myself of course.
Hey man should I be able to fruit my Apes out the bag my block was having such a hard tim fruiting
Apes require very different growing conditions than cordyceps and wood loving mushrooms. I can’t really give much advice on dung loving species
The guy that played the last of us:
Oh no
ITS STARTING
at 5:04 you say "glacial rocl dust"? what is it?
No vermiculite with the brown rice flour?
Brown rice not brown rice flour
I’m noticing that your liquid culture jars don’t have filters? Ir it true?
Yep I’ve found them to be unnecessarily as long as you release the vacuum in your jar after PCing
Thanks for the vedio mate great job
Is it OK to use honey liquid culture for cordyceps?
Thanks
Yes it’ll work but I’ve found a mix of things with a bit of calcium and glacial rock dust will produce the best results
@@MycoLyco what the heck does that mean? Glacial rock dust?
If I were to use pint jars, should I just divide what Jeff recommends directly in half? Half the amount of rice and half the amount of broth per jar? What would you recommend?
Or should I follow Williams book and do 22-24g of brown rice and 40-45 ml of broth?
Definitely experiment I think around 20 g or rice 32 ml broth would be good. You wanna shoot for about 1 inch of substrate depth once it’s cooked. I multiply my dry rice weight by 1.6 to get broth weight.
@@MycoLyco will do, appreciate it!
you remind me of Paul Stamets if he was younger
Cool!
Can you use ground caterpillars as spawn?
Probably not
Is anyone here able to help a fellow Cordyceps grower? My strains dont want to fruit, still after about 3 weeks of light exposure. I have two strains from two different sources and they both don't wanna come out :( Are there any tricks to get them to pin? Did I possibly get some sinensis strains ?
Could be the culture is old and degraded is it turning orange at all? Also where did you get the culture from? A lot of places don’t sell the best stuff. I’d recommend getting it from Appalachian gold or terrestrial fungi
If your in the USA that is
I collect spores molds and fungus.
Whats was ur sub?
Hello, thank you for posting this video. Please let me know if you will sell this mushroom to me. Kindest Regards, Ana
I’ve actually just started a commercial facility should have a website and cordyceps for sale in about 3 months
@mycolyco and I had it in a fruiting block
Could you post a link to the recipe for the lc and the brown rice? When you talk quickly or your voice drops to a certain tone, I can't understand what you're saying. Sorry!! And thanks for the video
All of the recipes can be found in the Facebook cordyceps cultivation group
Where did you get your flow hood?
myersmushrooms.com/shop/ols/products/pre-order-hepa-flowhood-fan-filter-unit-filter-pre-filter-with-fan-and-speed-control-120v
How long does it take to harvest ?
They take about 30-60 days and need to be kept below 68 degrees and with light at
Least 12 hours a day
@@MycoLyco Thank you, I hope to be able to grow cordyceps soon too.... Mushrooms are exciting...
what do you use them for?
Mostly tea gonna make some tincture. There are some interesting studies with it and covid
@@MycoLyco thanks for the reply
nice one
Do you smoke it, eat it or sniff it ?
Make tea generally I’ve been meaning to make some tincture
🔥🔥🔥🔥💪😤
im trying to grow de shrooms
You trying to thamil
Huge
🤔
I need to translate this on russian language. I can understand only 1/3
this is the thing from the last of us plz dont grow this
I agree
@Nyan Catspread I was joking lmao
😂😂😁😁
I never knew Moistcr1tikal farmed mushrooms.
Nah he looks more like Michael Stevens