Hi 👋 Tanya and Steve , Great to see and hear from you both, I was not sure if something had happened, I wish you both all the success for the New Year, I actually built my own last year, I saw somebody making one, I used piece of eight mil, thick plate steel, I made a tool post , drilled and tapped a 12 mil hole into the end of it, Then, in the piece of plate steel, I bought a 12 mile hole and countersunk, quite deep, and then I attached two pieces of aluminium angle Metal, So that I could adjust them, I found an old very thick carving knife, and grounded, so it was thicker on the top and thinner on the bottom to give it relief, However, my first attempt at it a bowl from aboard, the piece of wood, I got splitting it and it flew apart, 😂 I have since made another one, but that one I made too thin, I think they’re saying goes third time lucky hopefully, Your jig looks very well-made, I think it is just a combination of practice makes perfect. Getting used to how you had to open the slot up as you machine in., and when I glued my rings up, I left the first one on the truck and use the tail stock to push the next one up against the first one and so on on so on, good luck. Look forward to seeing your finished product next week I presume, stay safe, Phil, from the moulin,
Hi 👋, sorry to hear you haven’t been well , hopefully you are feeling a lot better now , my son, who lives in Illinois , the whole of his family over the Christmas period I’d come down with the coronavirus , or a strain of it , they hadn’t realised that they had got it at first , it caused some problems for the rest of their family. Her side , I believe two people had to go to hospital , they have recovered. Luckily , am just in the process of putting the rest of my roof on tomorrow, . Then I have to lay 6squ of concrete, 😮, hopefully have a work shop to work in, as my basement is jammed with machinery, not a lot of room to swing a cat 🐈⬛, not literally, 😂, I’m interested in making a Sam Maloof chair, i’m hoping when I go back to the UK in a few weeks time, to start bringing some more of my timber and tools back with me, I think I have enough and some mahogany as well, to make at least a pair of chairs, time will tell, look forward to seeing your next project next week, stay safe keep up the great work, Phil from the moulin,
@philvale5724 I hope your son and his family are on the road to recovery. These viruses are crazy anymore. They are constantly morphing into a new strain. I would love to see pictures on the finished chairs when you're done. You do some beautiful work.
Steve and Tanya: Thanks for a great video! In my original video I used a traditional 1/16" parting tool. The new "P" type parting tool should be set up with the centerline of the 1/2" blade on the centerline of the lathe. That is the cutting point will be 1/4" above center. That will eliminate virtually all friction and greatly reduce the heat. I recommend not widening the kerf as that can cause a misalignment of the rings during glue up. We all learn as we go and this is an important discovery. I will be releasing an updated video myself covering what we have learned over the first year of its release. Thanks again. Ron
Thank you, Ron! It is definitely a learning curve. Steve and I were just talking about making more bowls and your tip will definitely help. I am looking forward to watching your video when it comes out. 😊
Thank you! It is a very interesting system. It always amazes me just how much thought and time must have gone into making things like this. Then, giving the opportunity to review the product is a dream.
Welcome back. Good to see that both of you are feeling better. There’s a lot of talk about “bowl from a board” right now. I’m sure that the more you use it the better it will get. Looking forward to seeing your finished bowl.
It's awesome to see you back. The bowl from a board system looks amazing. I bet with more use it will become easier to use. I definitely want to see the finished bowl. Thanks for sharing Tanya.
I'm glad you guys are feeling good and turning this is a nice tool Ron has made just don't think I would use it enough to justify the cost but a good review
Did you try the premium brass pin upgrade kit? It replaces the HDPE tool guide. Ron has a video on how to set up the steel pin or upgraded brass pin guides. I bought two of these systems but I have not tried them yet. Nice review!
Thank you! I haven't tried it yet. I was going to try the upgrade on the next go round. It's a pretty nifty system 🥰 When you use yours, let me know what you think.
That is really good to know. I just couldn't get it to cut right at the speed I was going. I know now where I lacked in skill using it. I am very hopeful for the next time.
I have looked at these systems. It looks to me that a parting type tool with a pointed edge would work better. Too much surface area with a flat edge tool. Good video.
It great seeing you back again and feeling better! This system seems more complex than making a bowl from regular thick blank wood stock! So far, it seems to be working well ! Interesting to see how well you like the process, after the finished piece!
Thank you! It feels good to be back. I would have to agree that it is definitely more complex, for sure. I think just like any great product, learning to use it and time will give you the best results. I can't wait to share the finished bowl.
Widening your groove was right on. Part of your challenge was the nature of ash. You'll have less friction with walnut etc. Put "catch vertical arms behind board. See Pappa47 for example
The parting tool, which in fact acts as a scrapper, will be at or near 90 degrees to the workpiece. Whenever I get myself in such a situation, I'm rewarded with a catch. To get out of that situation, I would go to a traditional parting tool or, I would grind a negative rake on the tool supplied since the bottom part as been designed to reduce the friction against it as you enter deeper into the groove produced.
Hi Tanya and Steve. Thanks for show the video. I bought the easy cut system like yours. At the beguining cut was horrible. Now the cut is perfect, the problem are the rings, I use the templetes like you in the video, but when They are cut it degrees are not the same in esch ring so when I glue them is not so perfect like yours, at the end the variación betwren them is to big and the bowl goes wrong. I don,t know What can i do because I think I am doing the same as you. Thanks Vicente from Spain
I am still struggling with getting them to line up perfectly. Check out Tim Yoder he is really good at explaining the process. ua-cam.com/video/TJQk6oAt_EM/v-deo.htmlsi=LlrfTPsh3am_Dr4p
I bought the latest setup from ron brown and I will be testing it today. I'm wondering if there should be two separate tool widths used. Start with a wider blade and then transition to a thinner blade to finish the cut. As I sat watching the video again thinking through my comment above.I'm wondering why not have a carbide insert at the tip of the tool that is slightly wider than the body of the tool. Same concept u c in circular saw blades.The carbide tips are wider than the blade body itself.
I used mine for the first time today and got horrific catches with the parting tool. Slow down, sped up, expanded the cut, changed the tool rest height and still catches. I'll keep trying but initially disappointed in the tool.
very cool bit of kit I like the idea of that
Thank you! I really like it as well. It takes a lot of guesswork out of segmented turn.
Hi 👋 Tanya and Steve , Great to see and hear from you both, I was not sure if something had happened, I wish you both all the success for the New Year, I actually built my own last year, I saw somebody making one, I used piece of eight mil, thick plate steel, I made a tool post , drilled and tapped a 12 mil hole into the end of it, Then, in the piece of plate steel, I bought a 12 mile hole and countersunk, quite deep, and then I attached two pieces of aluminium angle Metal, So that I could adjust them, I found an old very thick carving knife, and grounded, so it was thicker on the top and thinner on the bottom to give it relief, However, my first attempt at it a bowl from aboard, the piece of wood, I got splitting it and it flew apart, 😂 I have since made another one, but that one I made too thin, I think they’re saying goes third time lucky hopefully, Your jig looks very well-made, I think it is just a combination of practice makes perfect. Getting used to how you had to open the slot up as you machine in., and when I glued my rings up, I left the first one on the truck and use the tail stock to push the next one up against the first one and so on on so on, good luck. Look forward to seeing your finished product next week I presume, stay safe,
Phil, from the moulin,
I was down for weeks with the flu, RSV, and a cold. Sounds like you built a pretty good jig yourself. I hope all is well. See you next week.
Hi 👋, sorry to hear you haven’t been well , hopefully you are feeling a lot better now , my son, who lives in Illinois , the whole of his family over the Christmas period I’d come down with the coronavirus , or a strain of it , they hadn’t realised that they had got it at first , it caused some problems for the rest of their family. Her side , I believe two people had to go to hospital , they have recovered. Luckily , am just in the process of putting the rest of my roof on tomorrow, . Then I have to lay 6squ of concrete, 😮, hopefully have a work shop to work in, as my basement is jammed with machinery, not a lot of room to swing a cat 🐈⬛, not literally, 😂, I’m interested in making a Sam Maloof chair, i’m hoping when I go back to the UK in a few weeks time, to start bringing some more of my timber and tools back with me, I think I have enough and some mahogany as well, to make at least a pair of chairs, time will tell, look forward to seeing your next project next week, stay safe keep up the great work, Phil from the moulin,
@philvale5724 I hope your son and his family are on the road to recovery. These viruses are crazy anymore. They are constantly morphing into a new strain.
I would love to see pictures on the finished chairs when you're done. You do some beautiful work.
It great seeing you back again and feeling better!
Thank you! It is good to be back.
Steve and Tanya: Thanks for a great video! In my original video I used a traditional 1/16" parting tool. The new "P" type parting tool should be set up with the centerline of the 1/2" blade on the centerline of the lathe. That is the cutting point will be 1/4" above center. That will eliminate virtually all friction and greatly reduce the heat. I recommend not widening the kerf as that can cause a misalignment of the rings during glue up. We all learn as we go and this is an important discovery. I will be releasing an updated video myself covering what we have learned over the first year of its release. Thanks again.
Ron
Thank you, Ron! It is definitely a learning curve. Steve and I were just talking about making more bowls and your tip will definitely help. I am looking forward to watching your video when it comes out. 😊
Hi Tanya and Steve. Great video. 👍😊😊
Thank you so much, Rob!
Good to see you back Mrs.B. Interesting piece of kit. Always fascinating the things folk come up with. Keep safe . C.
Thank you! It is a very interesting system. It always amazes me just how much thought and time must have gone into making things like this. Then, giving the opportunity to review the product is a dream.
Welcome back. Good to see that both of you are feeling better. There’s a lot of talk about “bowl from a board” right now. I’m sure that the more you use it the better it will get. Looking forward to seeing your finished bowl.
Thank you!
I agree....more practice.
It's awesome to see you back. The bowl from a board system looks amazing. I bet with more use it will become easier to use. I definitely want to see the finished bowl. Thanks for sharing Tanya.
Thank you! I feels good to be back!
I am excited to see the final bowl 🥣 as well.
Welcome back, it’s good to see you both after it.
Thank you! Glad to be back!
Nice having you back I like the bowl from board idea
Thank you!
I really like it as well. It's a pretty neat system.
Pretty freaking awesome Tanya! Good to see Steve there too! Missed you guys!
Thank you! It is a pretty neat system.
I still wasn't 100%, so it was nice having him help me with the video.
I'm glad you guys are feeling good and turning this is a nice tool Ron has made just don't think I would use it enough to justify the cost but a good review
Thank you! I agree... it's something you would want to use more than a few times.
Nice having you back hope you are feeling better
Thank you! I am getting there 🤗
If that’s the best it operates count me out. Welcome back.
Thank you!
I think with some tweets with the tool, it would cut better.
Did you try the premium brass pin upgrade kit? It replaces the HDPE tool guide. Ron has a video on how to set up the steel pin or upgraded brass pin guides. I bought two of these systems but I have not tried them yet. Nice review!
Thank you!
I haven't tried it yet. I was going to try the upgrade on the next go round.
It's a pretty nifty system 🥰
When you use yours, let me know what you think.
I have the jig and I have made 10 bowls with it. You are correct, it takes some practice.
If you have any tips, I would love to hear them.
One thing I found was not to use soft wood like a soft maple and sapele. I agree with your husband that you don’t want to turn it at too slow a speed.
That is really good to know. I just couldn't get it to cut right at the speed I was going. I know now where I lacked in skill using it. I am very hopeful for the next time.
Welcome back try next time the rings in a Cole jaws and holding the sanding disk
Thank you!
That is a great idea 💡
I will try that on the next one.
I have looked at these systems. It looks to me that a parting type tool with a pointed edge would work better. Too much surface area with a flat edge tool. Good video.
I have to agree. If the tip was more narrow and less blunt, I think it would cut so much better as well.
It great seeing you back again and feeling better! This system seems more complex than making a bowl from regular thick blank wood stock! So far, it seems to be working well ! Interesting to see how well you like the process, after the finished piece!
Thank you! It feels good to be back. I would have to agree that it is definitely more complex, for sure. I think just like any great product, learning to use it and time will give you the best results.
I can't wait to share the finished bowl.
Widening your groove was right on. Part of your challenge was the nature of ash. You'll have less friction with walnut etc. Put "catch vertical arms behind board. See Pappa47 for example
The parting tool, which in fact acts as a scrapper, will be at or near 90 degrees to the workpiece. Whenever I get myself in such a situation, I'm rewarded with a catch. To get out of that situation, I would go to a traditional parting tool or, I would grind a negative rake on the tool supplied since the bottom part as been designed to reduce the friction against it as you enter deeper into the groove produced.
Hi Tanya and Steve. Thanks for show the video. I bought the easy cut system like yours. At the beguining cut was horrible. Now the cut is perfect, the problem are the rings, I use the templetes like you in the video, but when They are cut it degrees are not the same in esch ring so when I glue them is not so perfect like yours, at the end the variación betwren them is to big and the bowl goes wrong.
I don,t know What can i do because I think I am doing the same as you.
Thanks
Vicente from Spain
I am still struggling with getting them to line up perfectly.
Check out Tim Yoder he is really good at explaining the process.
ua-cam.com/video/TJQk6oAt_EM/v-deo.htmlsi=LlrfTPsh3am_Dr4p
Thank you Tanya, I Watched the video, is really good. I will rey to be in contact with him , and make him
A couple of doubts.
Gracias
The only thing about this video is I didn’t get to see you. That’s the video.
See you next Thursday.
I know......I just wanted to focus on the tool in this one.
I will pop in next week.
I bought the latest setup from ron brown and I will be testing it today. I'm wondering if there should be two separate tool widths used. Start with a wider blade and then transition to a thinner blade to finish the cut. As I sat watching the video again thinking through my comment above.I'm wondering why not have a carbide insert at the tip of the tool that is slightly wider than the body of the tool. Same concept u c in circular saw blades.The carbide tips are wider than the blade body itself.
For the width of each ring I use the thickness of the wood.... is this correct?
Hey Tanya, hi Steve. Great video, but it's not really something I think I would get into.
Thank you!
It's a nice thing to have if you like to change up your turnings.
I used mine for the first time today and got horrific catches with the parting tool. Slow down, sped up, expanded the cut, changed the tool rest height and still catches. I'll keep trying but initially disappointed in the tool.
We had the same issues. I am not giving up either. I can say I am a bit disappointed but mainly with myself for not practicing more.
Turn your guide around!
Can you explain why? Did I have it backward? I had it turned, but it wasn't working as well as it was like this.