Awesome video and playing, I recently changed over to the Flow Picks (White Fang 1.14mm for some stuff and 1.5mm for others). I had been using the same picks for 12 years and never thought I'd change, but have been completely blown away by the Flows. Definitely gonna order some 420s to try out after seeing this.
I have the Flow 4.2mm and the old 4.1mm V Picks Dimension. I strongly prefer the V pick. It sounds better, feels better on the string, and it's easier to hold. I can't really say why I don't like the Flow, but I know that I don't like it. It's not even my favorite thick Dunlop pick. The classic Primetone large pointed 5mm is an awesome pick with a great bevel.
Stopped by for pick information on the Dunlop Flow 420, stayed for the riffing. Wondered about the tuning of your guitar and string gauge? Am I hearing a possible Primordial tone or influence? Anyway, I subbed to your channel. Cheers from Arkansas, USA! 🎸
Thanks boss - I tune DADGAD, though here I was a tone down at CGCAF#C. I used to use a split set with 11's for the two high and lowest string, and 10's for the middle three, but now I just use 10's. I do like a fair old chunk of BM, like Old Graves, Saor, Darkthrone etc, and I got into it through doom and drone, so I like the drive sound to stay quite chewy. Thanks for sub!
I've recently bought myself an infinity without being aware of its use and potential. I use an accoustic guitar and the infinty sounds rad for strumming, but is it sometimes used for picking? I'm not altogether too aware of the pros and cons of the one sided ghost buff.
I do tend to shy away from acrylic for acoustic work, simply because of the chirping common with thicker, polished picks, but there are advantages to the Infinity's makeup. Leading with the Ghost Buff edge means much less string noise and an earthy-sounding extra scrape, and as upstrokes tend to be lighter during strumming, the chirp is minimised, and you get a very smooth transition through the strings. Cross-picking is totally doable of course as the tip is quite pronounced despite the thickness of the plectrum, and I'd suggest trying it both ways round until you find a sound you like. Don't rule out using the shoulders instead of the tip either, as a blunt tip is great for strummed work, and for taming the treble of an otherwise bright-sounding pick.
@@HeavyRepping How about the 420 then? Would that be more viable for acoustic playing? And if not would there be any other thick, beefy picks that are better suited for acoustic guitars that you could recommend?
@@thefireslime-mc1041 I'd say that glossy, stiffer materials like Ultex (from which the 420 is made) are generally suited to electric application, but there's still plenty of scope for beefy acoustic picks. Tagua is a big one for me in this respect - makers like Suibhne Guitars and Crow's Customs do big picks in Tagua, and it gives a very healthy, organic tone. You can also check out UHMWPE picks, which tend towards the large, from the likes of BHL - I think that's great for acoustic too, and for those players with moist palms it's amazing. There's other materials like stone, U-glass, and even thicker Delrin - I'd suggest Fellow Plectrums for the latter, or if you just want a dense, darker sound, check out Taylor's Thermex series. The Ultra and Pro both come in a 1.5mm variant and are excellent for deep, hooded tones on acoustic.
any recommendations on shark fin types? I prefer that shape as its an easy transition from pick to finger style and i can hide the pick in my unused fingers
The classic Landström sharkfin is excellent, though it depends on your thickness preference. A modern adaptation is the Dragon's Heart, which is immense, and comes highly recommended. Check out the Faux series first!
Fuck I’m gonna listen to some kyuss. Might get the flow instead of the bhl. Ultem was quite strong too, and these are way cheaper. So I’ll give these a shot first
In terms of shoulders and length, yes - whether they're Ultex or Delrin. The bevels vary hugely depending on the thickness, with the 420 being almost a pebble compared to the Tortex versions.
@@HeavyRepping thanks! So for high speed licks and lead stuff, with which would you go? Keep in mind, i've been a jazz III guy most of my guitar playing life!
@@alejandroglz.b.4590 If you're used to the Jazz III, try the Primetone Jazz III first - the 1.4mm ones. The Flow is closer in size to the Jazz XL, so if you like the small stuff, try the Primetone first :)
@@HeavyRepping Actually, I've tried the flow 2.0 and 1.5 and I dig the shape better than the jazz III, but I don't know how the 4.2 will feel for the shredzzz is it better or clumsier? Thanks for taking the time to answer! Cheers. Amazing tone btw
Many thanks :) I'd personally go for the 3mm Ultex Flow then - I think you'll find the 420 a bit chirpy for getting on the shredmill 🎸⛏️⛏️ let me know how you get on!
Came for the picks, stayed for DAT TONE!
ToAn! :D
Glad to see someone else doin this stuff. I made a ton of videos years back, but I wish I had the time to have built my channel!
I will avenge you 😘
I love the 420’s theyve become my most used pick and their super versatile
Bought em for the weed meme, ended up becoming my main pick, and I only use my hands otherwise lol
🌿🎸⛏️⛏️
@@ianbraswellI bought these yesterday for the exact same reason lol
Awesome video and playing, I recently changed over to the Flow Picks (White Fang 1.14mm for some stuff and 1.5mm for others). I had been using the same picks for 12 years and never thought I'd change, but have been completely blown away by the Flows. Definitely gonna order some 420s to try out after seeing this.
Thanks, John, I was very curious about the 420's. Going to have to try them myself, now.
Do it!
I got a couple because the purple plectrum I got was way too big
Great work 👍 hypnotic guitar playing as usual
I have the Flow 4.2mm and the old 4.1mm V Picks Dimension. I strongly prefer the V pick. It sounds better, feels better on the string, and it's easier to hold. I can't really say why I don't like the Flow, but I know that I don't like it. It's not even my favorite thick Dunlop pick. The classic Primetone large pointed 5mm is an awesome pick with a great bevel.
I'm loving these
Kyuss🤘 just picked up a pack of 4.20!
Pick - tastic!
Stopped by for pick information on the Dunlop Flow 420, stayed for the riffing. Wondered about the tuning of your guitar and string gauge? Am I hearing a possible Primordial tone or influence? Anyway, I subbed to your channel. Cheers from Arkansas, USA! 🎸
Thanks boss - I tune DADGAD, though here I was a tone down at CGCAF#C. I used to use a split set with 11's for the two high and lowest string, and 10's for the middle three, but now I just use 10's. I do like a fair old chunk of BM, like Old Graves, Saor, Darkthrone etc, and I got into it through doom and drone, so I like the drive sound to stay quite chewy. Thanks for sub!
Heavy Repping! - thanks for the tuning info. I just ordered some Dunlop Flow 420’s, thought they could be useful. BM & Doom!🇺🇸
Can you do another improv video soon please? This sounds epic & I want more. (Cooking soundtrack :D ) ToAn
I've recently bought myself an infinity without being aware of its use and potential. I use an accoustic guitar and the infinty sounds rad for strumming, but is it sometimes used for picking? I'm not altogether too aware of the pros and cons of the one sided ghost buff.
I do tend to shy away from acrylic for acoustic work, simply because of the chirping common with thicker, polished picks, but there are advantages to the Infinity's makeup. Leading with the Ghost Buff edge means much less string noise and an earthy-sounding extra scrape, and as upstrokes tend to be lighter during strumming, the chirp is minimised, and you get a very smooth transition through the strings. Cross-picking is totally doable of course as the tip is quite pronounced despite the thickness of the plectrum, and I'd suggest trying it both ways round until you find a sound you like. Don't rule out using the shoulders instead of the tip either, as a blunt tip is great for strummed work, and for taming the treble of an otherwise bright-sounding pick.
@@HeavyRepping How about the 420 then? Would that be more viable for acoustic playing? And if not would there be any other thick, beefy picks that are better suited for acoustic guitars that you could recommend?
@@thefireslime-mc1041 I'd say that glossy, stiffer materials like Ultex (from which the 420 is made) are generally suited to electric application, but there's still plenty of scope for beefy acoustic picks. Tagua is a big one for me in this respect - makers like Suibhne Guitars and Crow's Customs do big picks in Tagua, and it gives a very healthy, organic tone. You can also check out UHMWPE picks, which tend towards the large, from the likes of BHL - I think that's great for acoustic too, and for those players with moist palms it's amazing. There's other materials like stone, U-glass, and even thicker Delrin - I'd suggest Fellow Plectrums for the latter, or if you just want a dense, darker sound, check out Taylor's Thermex series. The Ultra and Pro both come in a 1.5mm variant and are excellent for deep, hooded tones on acoustic.
Why is the 420 so hard to get
any recommendations on shark fin types? I prefer that shape as its an easy transition from pick to finger style and i can hide the pick in my unused fingers
The classic Landström sharkfin is excellent, though it depends on your thickness preference. A modern adaptation is the Dragon's Heart, which is immense, and comes highly recommended. Check out the Faux series first!
The Flow pick is made of Ultex. (That's a statement, not a question.) Is Ultem just another name for Ultex?
It's like the Lucite/Acrylic thing - Ultex is a brand name for Ultem.
Fuck I’m gonna listen to some kyuss. Might get the flow instead of the bhl. Ultem was quite strong too, and these are way cheaper. So I’ll give these a shot first
Are al the dunlop flows the same size?
In terms of shoulders and length, yes - whether they're Ultex or Delrin. The bevels vary hugely depending on the thickness, with the 420 being almost a pebble compared to the Tortex versions.
@@HeavyRepping thanks! So for high speed licks and lead stuff, with which would you go? Keep in mind, i've been a jazz III guy most of my guitar playing life!
@@alejandroglz.b.4590 If you're used to the Jazz III, try the Primetone Jazz III first - the 1.4mm ones. The Flow is closer in size to the Jazz XL, so if you like the small stuff, try the Primetone first :)
@@HeavyRepping Actually, I've tried the flow 2.0 and 1.5 and I dig the shape better than the jazz III, but I don't know how the 4.2 will feel for the shredzzz is it better or clumsier? Thanks for taking the time to answer! Cheers. Amazing tone btw
Many thanks :) I'd personally go for the 3mm Ultex Flow then - I think you'll find the 420 a bit chirpy for getting on the shredmill 🎸⛏️⛏️ let me know how you get on!
Dunlop 420 lol. Now i want dunlop .69
Kyuss?
Yes indeedy 🥂
4mm, why don't you just use a brick!
I've got ceramic, that'll have to do 🪨