I suspect that you expended quite a lot of effort (maybe the Understatement of the Year) making this video, but anyway the result certainly pushed my buttons! Quite possibly your "best ever"! (.... and in case you were wondering, I regard that as a pretty high bar!)
Thank you for noticing! I put a lot of effort into this one. I really wanted to do the subject justice, and let people know about David's amazing work. Also - Donkeys!
I remember the KIM-1 from my teens. It was one of the first candidates on my list for buying a hobbyist computer. It never happened though. I bought a Tangerine Microtan 65 kit instead.
Hi Lee. Absolutely brilliant vid as always mate. I have a few of Dave's kits. The man is a wizard! The kits are fantastic. I didnt know about the Asteroid game!! I now have it and I am playing it on my KIM-1 as I type (well... not ACTUALLY as I type... but.. you know.). I'll be at RetroFest @ Cambridge in Nov showing 'Toggles to Keyboards'.. come and say hello! 👍
Brings back memories of the eighties when I made the Elektor Junior, which was based on the KIM-1. It started off as a single board (the cassette interface came later) so any program entered was lost when it powered down.
Fantastic build Lee! I love this kit from "TripleD". I've had one, in the box, for I'm embarrassed to say how long. I really need to get it built. I may also need to check out this errata for the segmented led brightness. If you get time (which I doubt ha!) check out Jim Butterfield's lunar lander program for it. It's pretty neato to play on the keypad/display. Looking forward to seeing how the fundraising goes. If last year is any indication I bet things will smash through the roof and there will be donkey's all around! Take care!
Wow! I clicked so fast. I'm glad the algorithm recommended this to me. My dad was a child when the KIM-1 came out and my grandfather got him one. Edit: my grandfather later got him a TRS-80 Model I, and become a Z80 fan.
Hi Lee, nice vid as always. I too have one of Dave's kits and also thanks to Dave, I now have an original one too. All being well, they'll be side by side along with one of Daves KIMSI replicas at this tears Retrofest at Cambridge, hopefully, we'll get to chat then, take care. J.
I thought it was strange that all the transistor holes had square pads. If they had square pins only for the negative leads it would have taken some of the guesswork out of it for you.
It would probably be possible to create a temporary solder mask, and then clean it off with alcohol after soldering. Would make soldering a lot easier, without ruining the authentic look.
More fun making it hard mode, that must be how they did it in the 70s, just had a board and map no wonder factory fresh machines had so many bodge wires
I can't remember what video I was watching. But, I never realized it would just plug into a back plane and work like a normal computer. For some reason I was stuck in my mind it was keypad or nothing.
Currently putting some more kits together and they should be available shortly after the charity auction. They will be on green PCBs though, not fancy purple ones 😉
Loading a program ???? What a cop out, type that hex in manually for the full experience. I had the Elektor Junior back then which was similar, though it did have supporting magazine articles which helped.
@@MoreFunMakingIt I can appreciate the charity, but I want a full kit to build myself. I think for the ones the charity will be selling are only blank boards? By the time one ordered all the individual parts, and extras, one would probably spend more than just buying a complete kit. The complete kit is convenient. When is the auction? Thank you for the information. No hurry, I have a Mega 65 that just arrived the day before yesterday, I have to play with too. lol
This is cool, but I'm going to be that guy and say there are several more Commodore micro computers that you don't have. In fact, there's probably more models that you don't have than you do. This isn't a dig, just a reason to explore the real depth of some of the weird and wonderful lesser-known machines Commodore made!
I would be interested to hear which ones I've missed? Bear in mind the criteria is commodore micros between the KIM-1 and the Amiga 1200. No big box, and no prototypes.
@@MoreFunMakingIt Ah Ok, so you have some more criteria, that's fair. You've still got the 116, the VIC-1001 and the B128 and its variants. Obviously there's several variations of the C64, some which had their own model numbers (C64G for instance). And you could also split hairs and argue that the Chessmate is a variant of the KIM-1. (Ok maybe I'm clutching at straws now!)
@@domramseythe p500 is a favourite of mine. It's the colour pet that jack always wanted to kill the apple 2 but was too expensive and difficult to program
It's more having to be realistic about what I could afford or what others could donate. Super rare machines are never going to be part of this. But we still have a very comprehensive list of machines that were widely available
@@MoreFunMakingIt I just sold one of my Max Machines (with a fault) for £300, so they're not entirely unobtainium. But I do understand and appreciate how hard you work on this stuff too!
Bravo, I remember using these and A PET in engineering college in the early 80’s.
This amazes me how easy nowadays is to get small batches of PCBs for hobbyists. 10 years ago it was like: "How much do You need? 1000?"
It really is so much easier now!
This was so much fun! “… so you can skip ahead if you hate art.” 😂 and seriously loving the soldering montage music.
I suspect that you expended quite a lot of effort (maybe the Understatement of the Year) making this video, but anyway the result certainly pushed my buttons!
Quite possibly your "best ever"! (.... and in case you were wondering, I regard that as a pretty high bar!)
Thank you for noticing! I put a lot of effort into this one. I really wanted to do the subject justice, and let people know about David's amazing work. Also - Donkeys!
I remember the KIM-1 from my teens. It was one of the first candidates on my list for buying a hobbyist computer. It never happened though. I bought a Tangerine Microtan 65 kit instead.
Thanking you most kindly
Hi Lee. Absolutely brilliant vid as always mate. I have a few of Dave's kits. The man is a wizard! The kits are fantastic. I didnt know about the Asteroid game!! I now have it and I am playing it on my KIM-1 as I type (well... not ACTUALLY as I type... but.. you know.). I'll be at RetroFest @ Cambridge in Nov showing 'Toggles to Keyboards'.. come and say hello! 👍
Looking forward to November! Cheers Roy :D
Very fun, good comedic timing. Much appreciated! It makes watching interesting retro stuff enjoyable without toe-curling awkwardness! Well done!
Thank you :D
Interesting project! BTW you are doing real progress in video making! :)
Thank you! Working hard on levelling up :D
I had lots of fun watching this video! The cool build with the music playing made it really a joy to watch.
Thank you Thomas! That really made me smile :D
I really want one of those Kim 1 kits now! Great job, and it looks like you'll be taking over ebay for the day!!
eBay is mine now you f%$ks! 🤣
Seeing each step, and even each joint, makes it feel like we're building the kit right along with you! Nice work :)
It feels right doing it this way :D
I love Dave's kits, I still feel guilty I've not built my kim-1 yet.
I'll build it for you John! 😀
Where do you find them at?
@@MoreFunMakingIt Having seen some of his soldering, that may be a good idea ;-)
Great video mat , loved the soldering montages. Crazy to think the KIM is the granddad of as many machines I love
A proper quirky little vintage electronics video if ever I saw one. Great stuff.
Cheers Bobbus!
"Waste not, want not" in reference to bluetape and bluetak ;) landfills are full enough.
Nice build so far! 23:54 in :)
Thank you!
Brings back memories of the eighties when I made the Elektor Junior, which was based on the KIM-1. It started off as a single board (the cassette interface came later) so any program entered was lost when it powered down.
Now I want an Elektor Junior! It looks amazing!
@@MoreFunMakingIt My greatest achievement (probably my only achievement) on the Elektor Junior was my implementation of fig-FORTH.
Your solder cones are so perfectly formed, I despair looking at them! Never mind - one day, I'll get good!
Right solder and a good iron. You'll get there!
Fantastic build Lee! I love this kit from "TripleD". I've had one, in the box, for I'm embarrassed to say how long. I really need to get it built. I may also need to check out this errata for the segmented led brightness. If you get time (which I doubt ha!) check out Jim Butterfield's lunar lander program for it. It's pretty neato to play on the keypad/display. Looking forward to seeing how the fundraising goes. If last year is any indication I bet things will smash through the roof and there will be donkey's all around! Take care!
Cheers Jamie! Hope you're right 😆
The resistors are only a problem if you have the MAN71 or MAN72 LED displays. If you have the VAOS ones (Almost all kits sold) it's not an issue.
@@DevilishDesign Got it! Thanks sir.
I have an Intersil single board computer using a 6100 chip that used the PDP-8 instruction set.
Yeah, there were lots of single board computers before the Kim 1
Wow! I clicked so fast. I'm glad the algorithm recommended this to me. My dad was a child when the KIM-1 came out and my grandfather got him one. Edit: my grandfather later got him a TRS-80 Model I, and become a Z80 fan.
Im glad you found this! A lovely lineage :D
That asteroids is great. You're right it would have been amazing to type this in a play it at home back in the day.
Hi Lee, nice vid as always. I too have one of Dave's kits and also thanks to Dave, I now have an original one too. All being well, they'll be side by side along with one of Daves KIMSI replicas at this tears Retrofest at Cambridge, hopefully, we'll get to chat then, take care. J.
Looking forward to it! Make sure you collar me :D
Fantastic work Lee!
Many thanks Snorkers! :D
I thought it was strange that all the transistor holes had square pads. If they had square pins only for the negative leads it would have taken some of the guesswork out of it for you.
It would probably be possible to create a temporary solder mask, and then clean it off with alcohol after soldering. Would make soldering a lot easier, without ruining the authentic look.
More fun making it hard mode, that must be how they did it in the 70s, just had a board and map no wonder factory fresh machines had so many bodge wires
Different times!
The SYM-1 is a good clone of the KIM-1, simpler voltage requirements.
Love this, and it may have unlocked a core memory; I think I programmed one of these to teach me about machine code at college…. Maybe.
That's amazing! Now I insist you go see a hypnotist to reveal the whole memory!
That was a grotty Raspberry Pi transparent PNG you got for this 🤣
I can't remember what video I was watching. But, I never realized it would just plug into a back plane and work like a normal computer. For some reason I was stuck in my mind it was keypad or nothing.
Love a soldering montage although I do prefer a desoldering montage.
It's the buzz of the sucker that gets me.
We all love a good moo
Kim-1 was sold by MOS before commodore bought them, its not really a commodore product. It was also sold by Rockwell.
Commodore sold the KIM-1 with their company name on the board. I'm not sure how that makes it not a Commodore product?
Is it a 6502 or a 65C02 in this kit? I couldn't see. I could only read one 6532 RAM/timer chip.
Is that Apple 1 *replica* seriously behind two layers of security glass ??? 2:27
I dont think so?
Guys, Any one able to advise where these kits are available from ? Or are they now Sold Out ?
Currently putting some more kits together and they should be available shortly after the charity auction. They will be on green PCBs though, not fancy purple ones 😉
@@DevilishDesign Still Cool. Any info on approximate cost of full kit and postage ?
Loading a program ???? What a cop out, type that hex in manually for the full experience. I had the Elektor Junior back then which was similar, though it did have supporting magazine articles which helped.
I did have a play with this, but the input method resulted in so much swearing I had to cut it all out 😆
Transistors aren't passives but I believe they fall in under "jellybean logic"
The Commodore 8-bit prototype.
Where does one find these kits at?
I'm told they will be available to buy on the eBay store linked in the description after the charity auctions.
@@MoreFunMakingIt
Devilish Design eBay ?
@@Daveyk021 that's the one
@@MoreFunMakingIt I can appreciate the charity, but I want a full kit to build myself. I think for the ones the charity will be selling are only blank boards? By the time one ordered all the individual parts, and extras, one would probably spend more than just buying a complete kit. The complete kit is convenient. When is the auction? Thank you for the information. No hurry, I have a Mega 65 that just arrived the day before yesterday, I have to play with too. lol
Great music! Not sure I like this computer stuff though! It will never take on!
Next episode will just be me singing acapella
@@MoreFunMakingIt I am ready!
Yes, I have heard about Apple! It was a fruit company that now belongs to magnate trillionaire Forest Gump.
This is cool, but I'm going to be that guy and say there are several more Commodore micro computers that you don't have. In fact, there's probably more models that you don't have than you do. This isn't a dig, just a reason to explore the real depth of some of the weird and wonderful lesser-known machines Commodore made!
I would be interested to hear which ones I've missed?
Bear in mind the criteria is commodore micros between the KIM-1 and the Amiga 1200. No big box, and no prototypes.
@@MoreFunMakingIt Ah Ok, so you have some more criteria, that's fair. You've still got the 116, the VIC-1001 and the B128 and its variants. Obviously there's several variations of the C64, some which had their own model numbers (C64G for instance). And you could also split hairs and argue that the Chessmate is a variant of the KIM-1. (Ok maybe I'm clutching at straws now!)
@@domramseythe p500 is a favourite of mine. It's the colour pet that jack always wanted to kill the apple 2 but was too expensive and difficult to program
It's more having to be realistic about what I could afford or what others could donate. Super rare machines are never going to be part of this. But we still have a very comprehensive list of machines that were widely available
@@MoreFunMakingIt I just sold one of my Max Machines (with a fault) for £300, so they're not entirely unobtainium. But I do understand and appreciate how hard you work on this stuff too!
Bench Leeeeee... if living is without youuuu....
(sorry)
😂
😂
Don't need a Replica. I have a Real 1970s Kim-1!
Fifteen thousand pounds for donkeys? I'm in africa and I can get you between 500 and 1000 donkeys for that price....
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@@MoreFunMakingIt Wait, my math was wrong, GBP 15000 will only get you 116 foals.
Keep practicing your soldering... It was pretty rough. Try using some flux on the regular parts also. Not knocking on you, just a friendly tip.
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