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You can’t make an honest comment with all your restrictions, this is why we have all these problems, people can’t be honest about what they see, honesty is misconstrued as one or other of your restrictions, rather just show your videos without allowing comments
I found this online "GOVAN WHITTLES Govan Whittles is a general news and political multimedia journalist at the Mail & Guardian. Born in King William's Town in the Eastern Cape, he cut his teeth as a radio journalist at Primedia Broadcasting. He produced two documentaries and one short film for the Walter Sisulu University, and enjoys writing about grassroots issues, national politics, identity, heritage and hip-hop culture."
Carteblanche constantly reminds me why I enrolled to study law. Even in these long nights I know one day I will help young people who go through things like this.👌🏾❤
I used to be a social worker working in Lavender Hill and Hanover Park. The conditions there were and still are really terrible and dangerous. I used to be stressed every day - dealing with poverty, gangsterism, domestic violence and abuse even animal abuse became too much for me. Life is worth nothing there I'm glad I got out of that environment.
My mom was too. Her colleague was shot dead in his office by a father who was about to have his kids placed in a safer home. She worked for CAFDA in Grassy Park.
I'm born and raised on the flats. As a 40 year old man. I still cry every time I see the kids and mom, grandmas in these documentaries. It's like I see my own family. Soul wrenching stuff.
My brother & I are proof of surviving those living conditions 50yrs ago, vicious killings, pangas, knives, gang rapes, drugs etc were the norm then. Guns are the new norm every day now, but the basics still apply. Parents should help to get their kids out of that environment to save them. PTSD catches up later in many forms in later life unfortunately. Save ur kids please. All the best.
My cousin died 2 months back. He was black though. He was arrested and after his release denounced the gang life. I got a call he’d been killed in Cape Town and by people he knew because he was called outside by someone he knew and had a “friendship” with. That person was never identified but the neighbours said when he was called out he approached them happily and they just shot him and ran. He had called me while in prison asking to come stay with me, I refused because he had gone in to deep with the gang life and wanted no part of it. He chose his fate, I wasn’t going to endanger my life because his past was chasing him. I have a 7 year old to provide for. He wasted his 21 years of life. I’m not wasting my 29.
This breaks my heart so much. Growing up as a colored South African is hard and when you grow up your back is sometimes up against a wall of challenges that seem insurmountable at times
My heart bleeds for these children. You have to be so morally bankrupt to initiate a child into this. You have to be someone who's so far detached from any sense of humanity to do this. There was no voice, no conscious, nothing that said we are taking it to far.
The problem in the coloured area is parents they don't discipline their kids and they let them stop going to school, when the parent don't care why should a child care. I work in maneneberg and I see it all the time. Parents don't care and coloured communities don't know how to mobilize because that's all they need to end gang violence
I have this saying, and harsh as it may sound, it is true. "Don't breed what you can't feed". Me and my wife would love to have a child, but sadly we cannot afford one at the moment and I refuse to have a child if I can't give him/her better than what I had. That was how my parents raised me and that is how I will raise my child.
Thank you Govan Whittles and your team at Carte Blanche. My mom worked for 30 years there with CAFDA Grassy Park, Lavender Hill area. She lost a colleague ... shot. He was a social worker.
thanks for doing this story with compassion. Its sad that our Government has nothing in place to break this cycle of abuse and violence in the Cape Flats.
South Africa needs gang laws like in other countries. It must be illegal to recruit children in a gang . A database of all street gangs and there bosses must be developed
@@tsheposeeletso6475 Yeah by mass imprisoning people. Maybe if they gave the PA and Gayton McKenzie the ministry of police, that could work in SA too. But not with Bheki Cele Gayton has talked about Nayib Bukele in a podcast I listened to, he’s probably SA’s closest equivalent Plus things would have to work very differently in the courts as well, police alone isn’t even enough
SAPS needs to be completely overhauled. And gangsterism needs to be completely outlawed as has been the case in El Salvador. By cracking down hard, the current generation will be lost, but all of the next generations will be free and the Cape Flats can start to prosper.
The ANC hasn’t had the ability to stop anything. The DA has also willingly neglected this so what hope do you have that the combination of underachievers will achieve anything? They’ve both failed these communities so what do you expect them now?
Sadly these kids are killing little ones. It's a really hard one. Do they need psychological help or prison? I hope the new government is able to change these slum areas to liveable areas where children have better opportunities. I'm sure poverty and boredom play a big role.
The thing is these kids are indoctrinated by social media and influencers. Children have no concept of the danger and they are utilised to the max. Although they kick up against their parents, teachers, police. Their need to be tough, looked up to, and their admiration for the big talk, and the power of a gun is so very hard to avoid when it’s in your face 24/7. In suburbs where there is no gang warfare, there are groups of gangs who meet at shopping centres, shoplift, bully other kids, and generally control an environment subversively. Everyone is so caught up looking at their phones they’re not aware of what’s happening around them. For kids in the Cape flats - going to juvenile detention is the worst thing that can happen. They come out with a need to be tougher and better than the worst, with new skills in cruelty and illegal dealings. How do you clean a crime haven up? I wish I had the answer.
How do we help? How can we help? Children deserve a life, a real life of safety, security with a future to look forward to in awe of the possibilities they can create. We must put an end to this! I don't care about the colour of any community, I simply care about the people of my country.
When I was 14-16 I just couldn’t understand how people my age became gangsters. It’s obviously so hard to sympathise with people who’s shoes you can’t be in & that’s probably the toughest disconnect between us and them. When you’re in the same living conditions but a different mindset it becomes even harder to understand how these minds work.
Under age kids shouldn’t recruited to gangs same as it’s illegal for under age kids to drink alcohol or gamble or employed. DA is doing well in cape town but gangs are left unchecked and regulated. DA is the problem in cape flats that’s why is being voted because gangs know that DA will do nothing with gangs.
This piece was very personal to the team😢😢😢.... I look at this long standing problem and wonder how the amazing DA doesn't seem to make any serious progress. And now, they shut out important voices in the so called GNU which might have helped fix these issues...
I come from Moray Court opposite the Terminus and went to Blomvlei Primary and the Our Lady of the Rosary Church. What they are talking about now is the same things we went through 45 years ago. It's really sad to see that nothing has changed there. One would think that those who had to live through gang violence and apartheid would want better for their kids.
Sports grass roots level!!!!!!! Where's the money for our children's sports grounds, teachers etc... Social ills needs an outlet, and The answer is sports!!!!!
Does anyone think that if alternatives was offered and communities like this was was developed these kids would have chosen the gang life start with the core of the problem ,we are not gangsters we have been abandoned ,abused, targeted from the beginning because the blood of the true custodians of this land runs through our veins , point !
The main reason for the marginalion of the coloured group is because of your forefathers selfish and creedy policy called APARTHEID. Respect to you for noticing the plight of us. Wish all 'white people' will come to this realisation. The solution to this big problem in our community is a mind shifting action and to assisting the coloured youth to striving to be the best in live.
@user-vn2ez4rk3s im not afrikaans. My forefathers done nothing to contribute toward it. They were simple village folk from Spain and knew nothing of apartheid. And what did the anc do for the colored community when apartheid was dismantled? Try read between the lines and try deviate a little from the same talking points .
ANC Was to busy looting and planning on what to loot FACTS... it wasnt just Mandela at robin Island in fact it was coloured man who was with him in those cells as well. Now we sit with another issue where foreign Africans are taking advantage of our people being hungry and need money
Uyagula wena how can you say such a thing?! As if thina we don't have issues with violence in our black communities. Some of you black people are prejudice af and have a false heir of superiority over others. It's sick!
Young women are pregnant, living off social grant , no ambition to complete high school and better their circumstance, community and parents are to blamed what happening there
The adults in those neighbourhoods are to blame for the downfall on their children. They can easily take down the gang bosses if they stand together as a community, but instead nothing is done and their children get driven into these gangs, and the cycle repeats over and over, generation after generation.
@@nnn8502 the leadership has got to be blamed. The most undeserved police stations. Highest amount of gang murders. Yes they are to blame for not stopping it and not maintaining law and order. It's the same like the Zama zamas they are to blame for not maintaining law and order
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You can’t make an honest comment with all your restrictions, this is why we have all these problems, people can’t be honest about what they see, honesty is misconstrued as one or other of your restrictions, rather just show your videos without allowing comments
I have such respect for this journalist. He is a real gentleman and am impressed.
I found this online
"GOVAN WHITTLES
Govan Whittles is a general news and political multimedia journalist at the Mail & Guardian. Born in King William's Town in the Eastern Cape, he cut his teeth as a radio journalist at Primedia Broadcasting. He produced two documentaries and one short film for the Walter Sisulu University, and enjoys writing about grassroots issues, national politics, identity, heritage and hip-hop culture."
Carteblanche constantly reminds me why I enrolled to study law. Even in these long nights I know one day I will help young people who go through things like this.👌🏾❤
😂 yea right, by putting them in prison...
@@user-bx9nu9id7d😂😂 you didn’t hav to put it like that
How will you help them?
@@user-bx9nu9id7d LOL true. Boggles my mind that lawyers think they are offering a useful and positive service in our society.
Eish youthful graduate hope. Sa is a mess😢
I used to be a social worker working in Lavender Hill and Hanover Park. The conditions there were and still are really terrible and dangerous. I used to be stressed every day - dealing with poverty, gangsterism, domestic violence and abuse even animal abuse became too much for me. Life is worth nothing there I'm glad I got out of that environment.
My mom was too. Her colleague was shot dead in his office by a father who was about to have his kids placed in a safer home. She worked for CAFDA in Grassy Park.
I'm born and raised on the flats. As a 40 year old man. I still cry every time I see the kids and mom, grandmas in these documentaries. It's like I see my own family. Soul wrenching stuff.
We are loosing another generation through drugs, gangsterism 😢😢😢😢
It is very sad💔
My brother & I are proof of surviving those living conditions 50yrs ago, vicious killings, pangas, knives, gang rapes, drugs etc were the norm then. Guns are the new norm every day now, but the basics still apply. Parents should help to get their kids out of that environment to save them. PTSD catches up later in many forms in later life unfortunately. Save ur kids please.
All the best.
My cousin died 2 months back. He was black though. He was arrested and after his release denounced the gang life. I got a call he’d been killed in Cape Town and by people he knew because he was called outside by someone he knew and had a “friendship” with. That person was never identified but the neighbours said when he was called out he approached them happily and they just shot him and ran. He had called me while in prison asking to come stay with me, I refused because he had gone in to deep with the gang life and wanted no part of it. He chose his fate, I wasn’t going to endanger my life because his past was chasing him. I have a 7 year old to provide for. He wasted his 21 years of life. I’m not wasting my 29.
sad!
This is so heartbreaking. It sad to see young people go through this.
It's so true, you don't stab your social worker without having some serious anger issues.
got to do with upbringing
@@Mothercityguy extreme hurt. Anger is always a product of hurt.
This breaks my heart so much. Growing up as a colored South African is hard and when you grow up your back is sometimes up against a wall of challenges that seem insurmountable at times
My heart bleeds for these children. You have to be so morally bankrupt to initiate a child into this. You have to be someone who's so far detached from any sense of humanity to do this. There was no voice, no conscious, nothing that said we are taking it to far.
eysh Neo.
Problem starts with adults, single parents , no responsibility. Don’t have kids if you can’t take care of them!
The problem in the coloured area is parents they don't discipline their kids and they let them stop going to school, when the parent don't care why should a child care. I work in maneneberg and I see it all the time. Parents don't care and coloured communities don't know how to mobilize because that's all they need to end gang violence
I have this saying, and harsh as it may sound, it is true. "Don't breed what you can't feed". Me and my wife would love to have a child, but sadly we cannot afford one at the moment and I refuse to have a child if I can't give him/her better than what I had. That was how my parents raised me and that is how I will raise my child.
Honestly I don't blame them breeding remember majority is unemployed so what do you think happened during that boredom
You leaving the dream if only life and choices were as easy as you think.
that is convenient. there is plenty of gangsters from middle class actually
Thank you Govan Whittles and your team at Carte Blanche. My mom worked for 30 years there with CAFDA Grassy Park, Lavender Hill area. She lost a colleague ... shot. He was a social worker.
thanks for doing this story with compassion. Its sad that our Government has nothing in place to break this cycle of abuse and violence in the Cape Flats.
South Africa needs gang laws like in other countries. It must be illegal to recruit children in a gang . A database of all street gangs and there bosses must be developed
You don’t think it already is illegal to recruit children to a gang? Gangs don’t usually stop doing things because they’re illegal
El Salvador did it
@@tsheposeeletso6475 Yeah by mass imprisoning people. Maybe if they gave the PA and Gayton McKenzie the ministry of police, that could work in SA too. But not with Bheki Cele
Gayton has talked about Nayib Bukele in a podcast I listened to, he’s probably SA’s closest equivalent
Plus things would have to work very differently in the courts as well, police alone isn’t even enough
@@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 nothing is being done about 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@tsheposeeletso6475 I know and it works .It is that simple .
Thanks for this piece Govan 🙏 Breities is proud of you.
Shame, you can see this hits Govan harder than a lot of the other stuff does
Absolutely.
And he is truly a gem for South Africa ❤
🎉🎉🎉 Dankie Govan, telling the Brown man story! We need help. 😢❤
I love this channel I am mainly watching it to educate myself especially my communication skills
SAPS needs to be completely overhauled. And gangsterism needs to be completely outlawed as has been the case in El Salvador. By cracking down hard, the current generation will be lost, but all of the next generations will be free and the Cape Flats can start to prosper.
But if Gayton Mckenzie highlights this and avocading for a plan of action, people call him an ex convict.
Children need their fathers in the home ( structure)
Many of their fathers are gangsters so...
The so called GNU or coalition should deal with this issue once and for all!
The ANC hasn’t had the ability to stop anything. The DA has also willingly neglected this so what hope do you have that the combination of underachievers will achieve anything? They’ve both failed these communities so what do you expect them now?
@@KKOPPONG key word *should*
Sadly these kids are killing little ones. It's a really hard one. Do they need psychological help or prison? I hope the new government is able to change these slum areas to liveable areas where children have better opportunities. I'm sure poverty and boredom play a big role.
Problem starts with Government not giving back proper services, dignity and respect to community instead of empty promises
Tnx for posting this
Why must our people suffer like this😢😢
The thing is these kids are indoctrinated by social media and influencers. Children have no concept of the danger and they are utilised to the max. Although they kick up against their parents, teachers, police. Their need to be tough, looked up to, and their admiration for the big talk, and the power of a gun is so very hard to avoid when it’s in your face 24/7. In suburbs where there is no gang warfare, there are groups of gangs who meet at shopping centres, shoplift, bully other kids, and generally control an environment subversively. Everyone is so caught up looking at their phones they’re not aware of what’s happening around them. For kids in the Cape flats - going to juvenile detention is the worst thing that can happen. They come out with a need to be tougher and better than the worst, with new skills in cruelty and illegal dealings. How do you clean a crime haven up? I wish I had the answer.
this makes me so sad,where is his parents this child need lotsa love ,
Lord be with these kids. Protect the ones who do not want to join and open the eyes of the ones already in too deep in Jesus name🙏
This is a systemic issue, created by men. Those who see the light is the ones who survive and outgrow this system. Hard Truth.
What Sad times we live in😢😢😢😢
That poor young lad Deurico and his Mum. Heartbreaking
It all starts with the fathers...
Can you please upload full episodes
How can we help these kids? How can we help these families? For starters, these gangs need to be removed from these communities
It's a vicious cycle.. it's truly sad!
How do we help? How can we help?
Children deserve a life, a real life of safety, security with a future to look forward to in awe of the possibilities they can create. We must put an end to this! I don't care about the colour of any community, I simply care about the people of my country.
So SAD
I grew up in lavender hill ,we were taught to steal ,deal & k...ll just to fit in with what we thought was real
When I was 14-16 I just couldn’t understand how people my age became gangsters. It’s obviously so hard to sympathise with people who’s shoes you can’t be in & that’s probably the toughest disconnect between us and them. When you’re in the same living conditions but a different mindset it becomes even harder to understand how these minds work.
I actually don't even know what to say about this, it's a very sad situation.😢
This is so sad that gangsters can rule towns like this and nobody can stop them
Very sad ❤
Under age kids shouldn’t recruited to gangs same as it’s illegal for under age kids to drink alcohol or gamble or employed. DA is doing well in cape town but gangs are left unchecked and regulated. DA is the problem in cape flats that’s why is being voted because gangs know that DA will do nothing with gangs.
This just made my day so sour. How long have these gangs been operating for?
Decades it’s not new just a sad repeat cycle.
Such communication have adults who are using drugs and drinking alcohol. Families are dysfunctional
heart breaking for real, i would like to know from the people who were able to escape this reality is what would be the solution to this?
They must be charged and sentenced as adults.
Frightening and shocking I would never visit there that's for sure 😮
This piece was very personal to the team😢😢😢.... I look at this long standing problem and wonder how the amazing DA doesn't seem to make any serious progress. And now, they shut out important voices in the so called GNU which might have helped fix these issues...
I come from Moray Court opposite the Terminus and went to Blomvlei Primary and the Our Lady of the Rosary Church. What they are talking about now is the same things we went through 45 years ago. It's really sad to see that nothing has changed there. One would think that those who had to live through gang violence and apartheid would want better for their kids.
How come it's always previously disadvantaged people....
Fatherlessness. 😭
And women unfit to raise children. Generational curses.
100%the truth Our South Africans won't like but political correctness
Western Cape DA ruling party knows welk about this gang and drugs in the township but they dint have any tactics to stop it
😢😢😢
The problem starts with parents who never wanted to be parents
They are, too a large extent, severely neglected children.
😢
Great
😭😭😭😭 stabbed 57x this is sad y don't the President send soldiers to restore order
😥😥😥😥
give our laaities more options and opportunities to heal all this .
How do you reach 60 years without bullet wounds in Cape flats? Looks like the average lifespan is very low shame
PA boys
This is said
That one my homie, breities and shows no fear. 😅😅😅
I work in these places, but itsnt bad like the media tells us.
Sports grass roots level!!!!!!!
Where's the money for our children's sports grounds, teachers etc...
Social ills needs an outlet, and The answer is sports!!!!!
As soon as you build a park or sport grounds the stuff gets stolen and sold as scrap metal...even schools gets broken into and vandalized
why don't you show a DA Mayer that suppose to make life better for that community?
Does anyone think that if alternatives was offered and communities like this was was developed these kids would have chosen the gang life start with the core of the problem ,we are not gangsters we have been abandoned ,abused, targeted from the beginning because the blood of the true custodians of this land runs through our veins , point !
😢😢😢😢😢😢🌍🇿🇦😭😭😭
This country has failed in so many ways
As a white man, I will admit that colored people are the most marginalized group in South Africa
As a white man, I resist that notion. White people are the most marginalised group in this country!
The main reason for the marginalion of the coloured group is because of your forefathers selfish and creedy policy called APARTHEID. Respect to you for noticing the plight of us. Wish all 'white people' will come to this realisation. The solution to this big problem in our community is a mind shifting action and to assisting the coloured youth to striving to be the best in live.
@user-vn2ez4rk3s im not afrikaans. My forefathers done nothing to contribute toward it. They were simple village folk from Spain and knew nothing of apartheid. And what did the anc do for the colored community when apartheid was dismantled? Try read between the lines and try deviate a little from the same talking points .
ANC Was to busy looting and planning on what to loot FACTS... it wasnt just Mandela at robin Island in fact it was coloured man who was with him in those cells as well.
Now we sit with another issue where foreign Africans are taking advantage of our people being hungry and need money
@@spinespindle9872 spanish were almost as bad as the british
Build the army and send them in.
Why
NP…DA.
Some of our Coloured brothers fights wars abroad..like the 1 of Libya.. Government say nothing..
If there was a political will this could be minimized.
That stats are true in prison by 25 years or dead by 25years sad reality in cape flats
I think cloured have a problem with blood because mix masala problems always
Uyagula wena how can you say such a thing?! As if thina we don't have issues with violence in our black communities. Some of you black people are prejudice af and have a false heir of superiority over others. It's sick!
Due to the s*xual access the coloniser had to our foremothers
Young women are pregnant, living off social grant , no ambition to complete high school and better their circumstance, community and parents are to blamed what happening there
A result of a failed and biased ANC of 30 years
The adults in those neighbourhoods are to blame for the downfall on their children. They can easily take down the gang bosses if they stand together as a community, but instead nothing is done and their children get driven into these gangs, and the cycle repeats over and over, generation after generation.
Child soldiers???!!! No!!! Criminals!!!!
How I thought you were investigating the school children being recruited to go to Israel from Cape town
Where is d evidence?
Ntho tse etsahalang lefatsheng,,ekae DA,,look DA doesn't care about black people, why they don't stop this,,including useless ANC
This is because of so much youth unemployment. Sort out jobs for the youth and this won't happen.
It always the best run province what a joke
All this in the best run city in South Africa?
So what should the best run city do for children having children?
Bheki Cele was in charge of Police dont come blame DA
Here we go again. DOMKOPs
ANC government
ANC is enrolling them into these gangs?
Lol😂 anc?
@@nnn8502 the leadership has got to be blamed. The most undeserved police stations. Highest amount of gang murders. Yes they are to blame for not stopping it and not maintaining law and order. It's the same like the Zama zamas they are to blame for not maintaining law and order
@@nnn8502yes
@@isaaccpt6643 exactly. It's either they incompetent or lazy. The SAPS is one of the most useless organisations.
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