It would've been pretty cool if by the end of the graph you zoomed out to show the entire graph. I don't know if that wouldn't work or something, but it would've been cool if you were able to.
Yamamoto Riku Louis Ullman yup. just change the x axis bin number to a larger one, or make it long and diagonal where you quickly go back over all the older ones.
@@scottwarren4998 Yeah but those were in the cmr rating system which is different from the elo system. Nevertheless, it does have a few mistakes - Carlsen hit 2882 himself in 2014, not 2878.
Yes, but consider the scale of the graph, that the "spike" is still only about 100 points above the rest of the crowd. Compare that to the latest AIs who are estimated to have ratings in the upper 3000s and even 4000s. And I think Fischer would have had a rating in the 3000s if he had actually tried, but he tried to just mess around and experiment with weird moves to see what he could do with them, rather than give it his A game. That spike is only the tip of the iceberg of the potential he had.
Politics played a big roll in has fall. He was banned for playing against the Russians and was eventually kicked out of the country. The rankings throughout the cold war were not very accurate due to politics interfering in matches and forbidding the top Americans from playing against the Russians.
Tynah Games what are you talking about? Fischer’s whole life was chess, until he started to lose his grip on reality. He didn’t happen to play chess, he was born to play chess, and was the most ambitious and competitive and driven chess player the world had ever seen!
Tynah Games there are countless geniuses in the world who “happen to play chess.”” Do they become world champion? No! Fischer was single-minded in his pursuit of chess mastery!
His competition was weaker but you can't blame him for when he was born. Instead we should appreciate how much further he was able to see than everyone in the world
hungryknowl 17 Well it's was actually harder because there wasn't as many theory tools, learning tools or as easy accessibility to simply play a chess game back then so imagine if Paul Morphy had been alive today and grew up with access to those...
i dont know that Morphy would have been better if he were alive today. The quality and the quantity of elite chess players today would give Morphy FAR more competition than he had in his day. Chess was not played everywhere in the world back then, but now you have GM's from all over the globe, and they all have access to the tools that you mentioned. Morphy also had some emotional issues later in life and he lost interest in chess, much like Fischer. He might not have been willing and/or able to handle the intensity of today's elite chess players. You might be right, but I dont think so.
It must be that something happened to the rating system at that time. Every single player in the top had a steady upswing, and especially the 2 in the top, from around 1914.
Well From 1914-1918 was WWI as well. That might be the reason. Though it could be like Nadal-Federer rivalry. Where so many tennis players start to play because of them and want to be like them. Also the others have briliant games to study when you have 2 rivals on top.
The music when Capablanca enters. The music when Alekhine and Capablanca are at the top. The music of the players that disrupted Botvinnik's reign. The music when Fischer enters and rises. And the music when Karpov and Kasparov dances above everyone. Perfect sync with chess history!
You know, in a video full of amazing changes and movements in the graph, the moment that always gets me is at 4:19, where Fischer edges out Tal and Petrosian, younger than everyone else on the graph at that time. Because I always see it and think "Wow, that's far ahead, everyone else is nearly neck and neck." And it never fails to impress me how immediately after that, Fischer has this 100 point spike that actually forces the graph to zoom out just to capture the scale of it. It gives a sense of how extraordinary his chess was, for his time. And then, of course, his line starts to drop and suddenly disappear. Not because he died or even because he started to play badly, but because he stopped playing altogether. It makes you wonder how high that rise could have gone, had he chosen to continue playing, rather than stubbornly decide to excommunicate himself from chess (he refused to play Karpov to defend his title under the conditions he obtained his own title for reasons that I think only Fischer really knew. Then simply refused to play anywhere after that). I see lots of people in the comments saying how impressive Kasparov's time at the top is and there's no doubt about it, it is. But for me, I cannot help but wonder if Fischer might have stood in Kasparov's way, had he decided to. To me, history is compelling, not for what has been but for what could have been.
Agree, highly respect both Kasparov and Fischer, but Bobby's domination was insane and it's a shame that we didn't get to see his Championship match against Karpov, and then later against Kasparov ;)
fischer decided to go into a legal career, which failed, he then sat on his family fortune the rest of his life and did diddly squat. I'll be honest I don't think he liked chess, just was insanely gifted.
Sora Tenshi in that case, the answer would be a mix of layering it on top of each other because the graph is not tall, and some horizontal compression.
ShadowboyTV 2 things, firstly you’ve grown up with access to modern theory, chess engines, every advantage that he didn’t have, he was the greatest talent ever, he played way over his peers from the second he stepped on the scene. Second, I don’t believe you.
Lasker holding number 1 at the age of 57 will never, ever be equalled. And it's insane how far ahead of everyone else Fischer was in his prime. No wonder his opponents fell to pieces facing him.
The highest ever FIDE rating was 2882, which Magnus Carlsen had on the May 2014, Bobby Fisher max was 2785 in April 1972 and Garry Kasparov peak was 2851 in July 1999...
@@sebastianszrejter8519 carlsen and Bobby have different system for rating..and furthermore carlsen has live in modern access like engines, theory of previous players etc.. and he even training with kasparov.. in an engine between kasparov and bobby.. they have fought once and Bobby's engine won
@@thomasmollol9466 yeah, because he has studied all the tricks and strays of the greats before him. I probably know more about science than Einstein, but not because I'm smarter, just because I was born into an era where I could study everything he helped to discover
thomasmollol newer generations are always going to have an edge over previous generations in knowledge and skill because they can learn from previous generations and add any new knowledge/skill. That’s why the best athletes in pretty much any sport are alive now. There are outliers who are phenoms, so it may take a few generations to surpass, but it will eventually happen.
+gespilk Please note it is still not entirely clear whether Alpha-Beta search is better than Neural Networking. The conditions of the Stockfish vs. AlphaZero matches placed a handicap on Stockfish which limited its overall playing strength. No opening book, 1 GB of hash data to use, weaker/older version are just a few examples. The Stockfish Development has sent a rematch request to Google's Deepmind asking for an exhibition match under fairer conditions a few weeks prior. So far they have not responded. You can find this open letter on Google Groups titled "Fishcooking" If you have any questions feel free to ask. I'll try my best to answer them.
you think that just because a computer can be really good at a game that the game is instantly dead and no humans will play it, a lot of people thought chess was dead after kasparov lost to deep blue, but it's not. Humans still love playing other humans, and lower difficulty computers. Why would chess die just because computers are the best. When you look up best chess player it doesn't come up alphago, it comes up magnus carlsen, a human. Because that's what people care about. You keep making a lot of statements but not explaining how they are at all relevant to the subject and how it will affect chess.
@Tokisaki Kurumi It would have been a tragedy if that pathetic human being would have gotten to 2900. Bobby Fischer is a stain on the history of Chess.
@@sagiezov3969 yes why don't we apply out narrowminded 21st century ideals to something that happened almost half a century ago. Do you forget that Fischer is the man who turned chess into a profession moreso than any other person on this list? The person that transformed playing chess from a hobby to a viable career? Say what you want about Fischer, he was obviously mentally afflicted to some capacity. But the impact he had on chess as a whole is objectively, undeniably positive.
Unistealth Universe stealth yeah. He was a very young man at the time. When I played him he was probably mid 80’s or so. That was back in 2007. So he’s probably gone now.
lasker is unbelievable. dude goes 20 years as the undisputed number one. then it looks like the juggernaut capa is just gonna trounce him, but nope, that's then the old man decides to cross 2800.
You really can see the relation between the #1 players and the ones preceding it - unless the top player is relentlessly more advanced than the others - the top 2 peaks together a lot of the times because they use each others to train and motivate on constant success.
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Garry Kasparov is still ranked the longest Top of the League GrandMaster for 23 years and that is a remarkable record, that nobody has yet beaten. Let's see if Margus Carlsen can be the number in the next 16 years or so! I'll be back to UA-cam in 2033 with a better laptop and 16K TV!
Longest streak : Garry Kasparov (23years 5month) the most at n°1 : Emmanuel Lasker (25years 9 month) first to 2800 : José Capablanca (early 1915) youngest n°1 : Paul morphy (12years old) oldest : Willhelm Steinitz (53years old) Highest rate : Bobby Fischer (2893) I really love how every big name of chess share records.
The highest rating depends on which rating system you're talking about. If it's Chessmetrics, then you're correct, but if it's ELO, then Bobby was around 2780.
There was a point in the 50s to 60s where the world chess federation actually limited how many candidates for the world chess championship could be Soviet. So like you'd have a tournament or a bracket of 8 players to decide who plays the champion next, and only 5 of those players could be Soviet, which led to a lot of relatively weaker players getting into the tournament and then being crushed...
@@zeoxyman Yes, there's a couple Soviet players who said that winning the Soviet Chess Championship was actually harder than winning the Candidates' Tournament. It's the same thing with table tennis today, where winning the Chinese national championship is actually harder than winning the Olympics.
@@antoniosoares9273 It just shows that if we set our minds to it, work hard & sacrifice, make good decisions we can be successful. We can apply this to other areas of life as well - there is no need for any country to be poor - but few countries it seems are willing to do this
@@antoniosoares9273 Yet Russia is a broke country - with millions of men wasting their life away in drink Shows that intelligence doesn't always translate
BaHaEzZz That and during the candidates matches he totally demolished a top Soviet grandmaster 6-0 and then did the same to the pride of Demark. And then he dismantled the former WC Tigran Petrosian with ease. And then He went on to just slaughter Spassky. He basically put Russia over the barrel without lube. He was invincible during that time. The reincarnation of Paul Morphy. Absolute domination.
Paul West I was thinking the same. Obviously there is some ambiguity about ratings over time but he seems to have come in hit the highest peak of all time and then just left.
"That and during the candidates matches he totally demolished 2 top Soviet grandmasters 6-0 " Really? Taimanov was a soviet grandmaster and the other? Are you talking about Bent Larsen? He wasn't exactly soviet or was he!?
+Sai Kiran He didn't, doesn't anybody know anything? I hope nobody only listens to this one video, try looking at Google for knowledge too...this video is incorrect, deeply, none of them touched anywhere near 2900, not even 2800s for the early ones in fact, Magnus holds the highest rating of 2882 in history and Bobby did hold the highest at 2870. This is not accurate at all. Paul was much greater than Wil for starters.
Warhammer, this video was based not just on the ELO system but using the more accurate chessmetrics and EDO Historical records which offer the very best accurate ratings in comparisons of all players including those pre-1970 when the ELO ratings came into existence. You may be stuck on the ELO system as the only lone that counts but many of us do not think that. The inflated ELO ratings of players today are a perfect example that ELO is not the most accurate way of calculating players playing strength alone.
I see a pattern.. most players have their peak at age 25. Then at 35 they drop on performance. Makes me think about my life. I'm 26 years and still haven't built nothing good...
@@Cullinan000 Churchill singlehandedly killed the British Empire. Thats why the British have a saying "Britain formed an Empire in spite of their government"
Imagine if Fischer stayed around and had similar rivalry with Karpov for years to come. They'd become so strong that Kasparov's reign could be delayed and his reign shortened (because he'd face a stronger, toughened Karpov in the 1980s, and as we know they were pretty evenly matched, if you look at their lifetime score). Today it would be discussed whether Fischer or Karpov was the GOAT, and Kasparov (while remarkable and highly respected) would be a bit behind on most people's list, kind of taking what is Karpov's place in our timeline.
2793 in 1970 with ratings inflation is worth at least 2893 now, roughly the same as the peak rating of Carlsen. At that time, 2700 was the sort of rating that got you to be world champion.
@Barbell schwarzehonkey So what do you think Fischer with a computer would be like? The guy learned Russian so he could read their magazines. Driven is an understatement. Carlsen's Achilles heel is his theory, as Caruana demonstrated. Fischer would not have that.
@Barbell schwarzehonkey Look up how FIDE administers the Elo system. They inject points into the system especially after Elo left then they started putting in even more points.
Ratbacon past era players will always be weaker regardless of how talented they are. Today's players have already combed out weak lines (to avoid defeat or steer to a draw) using chess engines from millions of games from the database. If Carlsen were to play a 21 game match against prime Kasparov or Fisher... Magnus will aways be the safest bet, in fact I would expect him not to lose even 1 game if he's in tip top shape.
Yes he was indeed but he would not have defeated Fischer at that time. Even Karpov admitted his chances were no more that 40-60. By 1978 when Karpov played Korchnoi he was much stronger and then perhaps he may have achieved winning the title.
Karpov has said many times in interviews that his chances were 45 to 55 (coz of confidence), but he would have higher chances of winning the next year.
Matt Clark he won the New York 1924 tournament at the age of 56, which had most of the top players in the world at that time. He took third in Moscow 1935 at the age of 66!
Jeff K That's an interesting observation. My thought was that they went on a downward slope when they lacked competition and got better when they had challengers to test them.
@@solderbuff Well yeah I agree, I don't know every famous chess player that ever existet but I heard that a lot or great player lost their mind and things like that. Also chess during the cold war took a political dimension causing problem to some of the greatest player, so maybe that's what he was referring to. English is not my first language so sorry if you didn't understand all I said.
@@solderbuff Florin Gheorghiu... if Ceauşescu let him go train with Boris Spassky, Anatoly Karpov would have never been first, since Florin Gheorghiu was much better.. but unfortunatelly he didn't have the opportunity :(
How sad to see Paul Morphy flying high across the years like a meteor then falling from the sky . He would have gone off the scale had he lived longer and battled Steinitz for the world championship around 1869.. Then there was Harry Nelson Pillsbury shoot up to number 2 in 1902 behind lasker before passing away to the terrible disease Syphilis.
Had Paul Morphy been alive in today's computer age I think he would be just as dominating now as he was then. The reason is his incredible brain was just wired for seeing chess combinations. Computers would have only helped him accumulate more pattern recognition. Mikhail Botvinnik (the grand patriarch of the Soviet chess school) said that since Morphy stopped playing, nothing new has been discovered in the open game. Not bad for a kid just playing chess to kill time until he "came of age" to practice law. Morphy didn't even like chess; he thought it was a waste of time. In the meantime he memorized the entire law codex for the state of Louisiana just to pass his bar exam. Can you imagine if he had access to the complete games of Alekhine, Tal, Fischer, Capablanca, Carlsen and Kasparov? He would memorize their games (if he were interested) and assimilate the current theory into his own games and just start destroying all the professional chess masters like he did back in the 1850's. He made Adolf Anderson look like a patzer -- and Anderson was no slouch: he was a VERY strong tactical genius in his own right. But Morphy beat him so bad, that Anderson could do nothing but shake his head and laugh during their games.
Samuel Young yeah, he brought up the fact that Morphy was spotting Rooks and Knights and playing BLINDFOLD SIMULS while doing so, annhiliating the best players of his era in doing so. But sure, all 2100's do that without issue.
I never heard of Hyacinthe Boncourt before, but he was in the top ten and improved continuously until his death at about age 75. That is very impressive.
That’s like saying Mohammad Ali wasn’t American but black or that many other ethnicities not being American. Russia has been a mixed society for many many centuries that goes back to the Byzantine empire. They are Russian (aside from the Armenian ones, but you mentioned that for no reason since it said Armenia for him) Jewish Americans are Americans and our Jewish Russians are Russians.
chess is huge in russia. not so much in america. it was even more important in the soviet era, which makes it amazing that fischer beat spassky, who had the might of the soviet chess machine behind him.
UPDATED LIST: April 2019 1. Magnus Carlsen, Norway 2. Fabiano Caruana, USA 3. Liren Ding, China 4. Anish Giri, Netherlands 5. Shahkriyar Mamedyarov, Azerbaijan 6. Viswanathan Anand, India 7. Ian Nepomniachtchi, Russia 8. Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, France 9. Alexander Grischuk, Russia 10. Levon Aronian, Armenia
Watching this video after having consumed a million lectures is so awesome because you finally recognize most of the names and are able to appreciate the players for who they were beyond the game.
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Great visualization. I'm just sad that at the end you didn't zoom out so we can see the whole spectrum, and maybe at that time you could bold the topmost line made out of all #1's throughout the history :)
He did a show match with Spasky or something much later (somewhere around 2000? can't find the details), but by then neither of them were near the top, so it wasn't very well followed.
@ Deema Bowgen Only the result - a good move - is the same with a well playing human and a computer. Nowadays the computer is more constant aigainst the best humans and wins most time. But even when the same move is played the thinking process or calculation method are completely different. Human strength: Intuition, pattern recognition, creativity. Computer: access to database, very fast brute force calculation, which can lead to a simulation of intuiton or creativity, but only for the resulting move, not for the way to find it.
Dieter Puth Not all chess programs brute force the same way, the parrot chess program used a kind of deep learning very similar to AlphaGo (because alpha go was based on it partially) Also I have serious doubts as to the extent that human creativity or intuition make one good at chess. In go the best players in the world are occasionally _under 18_ whereas this is not true in chess. Many moves in go are also based on intuition, where players can't explain why they made the move they did, whereas chess not so much.
This was fantastic. It did exactly what a great visualization should do -- taught me a ton of stuff I didn't already know. For example, I never realized how young Morphy was when he quit. And I never realized how long Lasker's reign lasted. It was also fascinating to see the recurring phenomenon of a top player breaking out of the pack and dominating by quite a margin. I don't know enough about the statistical properties of ratings to know why that is for sure but a quick armchair thought is that it implies a paradigm shift brough to the game by the breakout player. In any event this was incredibly cool! My only criticism was no mention of Deep Blue. Or whatever the current top computer is called.
Even if you don't care about chess, this music combined with the visuals tells a tale of little floating organisms trying to be at the top while swimming to the right. If you ignore the flags and names, this performance tells us how fleeting life is, and how we are all trying to hop the highest amount in the air as we plunge into the abyss. :D
I also thought about all those names scrambling at the bottom of the rating, getting to and falling out of top 10. Hardly noticeable, and many of them unrecognizable. But ffs they must have been damn good too, right?? "In the end it doesn't even matter" : )
Yeah. I think that one of the bad sides of globalization is that people (because they have only so much space in their memory) remember top few people in the world, and completely ignore top few people in their country, let alone city. Only when, after a number of years, someone from their city or country climbs the ladder, do they recognize them, and all other are quickly forgotten. :( :D
Lasker was WC longer then anyone. Also if you read Laskers biography .. he dominated most of his opponennts in Match play..Marshal Janowsky Tarrasch etc lost by wide margins...even Steintz was crushed..tho Steintz was an old man by then. For this reason...an argument can be made that Lasker is in the Mix as the GOAT ...
+44616E6E79 Thanks! I used Processing 2 to create the line graphs and save them into image files, and I used Sony Vegas to turn the image files into a video! There were also a bunch of Java programs I wrote to interpolate data between the three sources, which always seemed to take dozens of tries to get to work correctly.
The latter part of the video shows that Carlsen is the true successor of the older generation that starts with Murphy up to Kasparov. Carlsen, also, had this distinguished leap over the others. He is truly a classical world champion! but the most fascinating part is how it shows the great duels for the top through ages; Steinitz vs Zukertort, lasker vs Steinitz, Lasker vs Capablanca, Alekhine vs Capablanca, .......up to the great duel between Karpov and Kasparov. I hope we will see another duel between Carlsen and another challenger instead of these one sided battles! also remarkable for this video is how it shows the rise and the downfall of the great players through ages. really, really fascinating video!
First to 2200: Alexander Petrov, Jun 1814 First to 2300: Aaron Alexandre, Aug 1818 First to 2400: Alexandre Deschapelles, Sep 1820 First to 2500: Alexandre Deschapelles, Sep 1820 First to 2600: Alexandre Deschapelles, Sep 1820 First to 2650: Louis de la Bourdonnais, Dec, 1835 First to 2700: Paul Morphy, Nov 1850 First to 2750: Paul Morphy, Feb 1853 First to 2800: Jose Raul Capablanca, Feb, 1915 First to 2850: Jose Raul Capablanca, Feb, 1919
If there's no information in en-segment of internet: Alexei Kopev was a writer, and was known as best St. Petersburg's chess player in early 18xx. He was beaten by young player Alexandr Petrov in 1809.
Bobby 2893. Best ever. 6-0 vs Taimanov, 6-0 vs Larsen, and 1-0 against Petrosian, 20 consecutive wins till the date, and finally wins 6’5-2'5 vs Petrosian, to win finally the World Championship Against Spassky by 12'5-8'5. Insuperable.
Sagaz Mc you are comparing a number that was not elo with today's numbers that are elo. Also, ratings will change with a change in opponent's strengths as well, even if the measurement was done in the same metric.
Um. Except that it's actually not accurate. Look him up on Wikipedia. His peak rating was well under 2893. I'm not sure if this graph is somehow adjusted to try to compensate for ratings inflation but his peak rating was 2785 and that's more than 100 points off from the video's claim, he never reached 2800.
That was amazing. Morphy's dominance was just huge. And interesting how small Fischer's rain was compared to Botnivik, Lasker Morphy and Kasparov when you see it over time
@@charlie172011 Miguel Najdorf was actually born in Poland in a jewish family (as Mieczyslaw Najdorf in Grodzisk Mazowiecki), he got argentinian citizenship in 1944 after he emigrated there just before WW2 (in which he lost all his family). Savielly Tartakower was his chess teacher (he appears on the list in top4 around 21'). He was one of the few on the list that wasn't only pro chess player but also successful businessman, he owned insurance company and was one of the wealthiest mans in Argentina.
My man Alexander petrov played alone for about 10 years.
Sounds boring, right?
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Its interesting that his rating was increasing till he was 60 thats insand
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From January to May 1809 there was a guy named Aleksei Kopev lol
1:38 ... I suspect Paul Morphy may have killed Ignatz.
hahahahaha
1:42 then Wilhelm Steinitz killed Paul Morphy
lolllll this comment just popped up among all these other serious ones like a bomb
When I saw that I figured he probably beat him once and dipped
@Bradley Bailey then Steinitz fathered Lasker shortly after.
0:11 F in the chat for Aleksei Kopev
Daffa Mutaqin Tetaputra wdym? Dude was the second best chess player in the world for about 5 minutes hes prob pretty happy with himself
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It would've been pretty cool if by the end of the graph you zoomed out to show the entire graph. I don't know if that wouldn't work or something, but it would've been cool if you were able to.
Dovahkiff I agree
haha, there are millions of players, that wouldn't really work. From the beginning: "Only the top 10 are shown"
Yamamoto Riku Louis Ullman No. Zoom out to see the entire of THIS graph that they showed. no new outside information.
Colebug99 But that would turn this into a really long diagonal line!
Yamamoto Riku Louis Ullman yup. just change the x axis bin number to a larger one, or make it long and diagonal where you quickly go back over all the older ones.
4:39 *Kasparov joins the room*
5:22 *Kasparov has left the room*
*_A WHOLE 43 SECONDS FOR THE LEGEND_*
Boom!
Did you he how fast he rises? And his battle with Karpov is just beautiful to look at graphically
@@luisenriquemercadorojas2536 And at 20 years of age! World champ at 23. Fischer 29.
@@kasparov937 Paul Murphy was champion at age 13. Did you miss that?
We need a whole 10 minutes for his ego
Such a beautiful and unique way to present data thats been around for centuries. Amazing job.
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The "war" between Capablanca and Lasker was impressive
You can see Lasker upping his game like "Oh Scheiße, Capablanca holt mich ein"
Followed by the war between Capablanca and Alekhin.
This video say that both Botvinnik (2882) and Kasparov (2882) have a higher peak than Carlsen (2878)..
@@scottwarren4998 Yeah but those were in the cmr rating system which is different from the elo system. Nevertheless, it does have a few mistakes - Carlsen hit 2882 himself in 2014, not 2878.
The Fischer spike is always awesome. Gives me chills
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Yes, but consider the scale of the graph, that the "spike" is still only about 100 points above the rest of the crowd. Compare that to the latest AIs who are estimated to have ratings in the upper 3000s and even 4000s. And I think Fischer would have had a rating in the 3000s if he had actually tried, but he tried to just mess around and experiment with weird moves to see what he could do with them, rather than give it his A game. That spike is only the tip of the iceberg of the potential he had.
You what? Fischer was one of the *least* experimental top players ever; he had a very limited opening repertoire.
Fischer studied his openings to a greater extent than most other players of his era. His opening knowledge was narrow, but very, very, deep.
1972 fischer was the goat
A fantastic video which really helps put players in perspective. Well done and many thanks, K
+kingscrusher I totally agree :)
agree 100 %
Wow this just shows how amazing it was to be the best for a long time
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4:43 Karpov and Kasparov do an amazing dance
they kissed
Karpov x Kasparov & Kazachok
That Fischer rise and fall is so sad. Tortured genius.
Why tortured?
Fisher wasn't a chess genius
He was a genius who happened to play chess
Politics played a big roll in has fall. He was banned for playing against the Russians and was eventually kicked out of the country.
The rankings throughout the cold war were not very accurate due to politics interfering in matches and forbidding the top Americans from playing against the Russians.
Tynah Games what are you talking about? Fischer’s whole life was chess, until he started to lose his grip on reality.
He didn’t happen to play chess, he was born to play chess, and was the most ambitious and competitive and driven chess player the world had ever seen!
Tynah Games there are countless geniuses in the world who “happen to play chess.”” Do they become world champion? No! Fischer was single-minded in his pursuit of chess mastery!
Morphy was a savage. Essentially appears on the list at #1 at age 12, and stays there continuously with only one month off until he is 31.
jesusthroughmary it was easier back then however
His competition was weaker but you can't blame him for when he was born. Instead we should appreciate how much further he was able to see than everyone in the world
hungryknowl 17 Well it's was actually harder because there wasn't as many theory tools, learning tools or as easy accessibility to simply play a chess game back then so imagine if Paul Morphy had been alive today and grew up with access to those...
No doubt.He was a legend
i dont know that Morphy would have been better if he were alive today. The quality and the quantity of elite chess players today would give Morphy FAR more competition than he had in his day. Chess was not played everywhere in the world back then, but now you have GM's from all over the globe, and they all have access to the tools that you mentioned. Morphy also had some emotional issues later in life and he lost interest in chess, much like Fischer. He might not have been willing and/or able to handle the intensity of today's elite chess players. You might be right, but I dont think so.
OMG, when looking at Lasker's and Capablanca's rating you can clearly see what rivalry does! (2:48)
Krownyh it's amazing cause Lasker was in his 40s and even after crashing out, he made a comeback for a brief amount of time
It must be that something happened to the rating system at that time. Every single player in the top had a steady upswing, and especially the 2 in the top, from around 1914.
Well From 1914-1918 was WWI as well. That might be the reason.
Though it could be like Nadal-Federer rivalry. Where so many tennis players start to play because of them and want to be like them. Also the others have briliant games to study when you have 2 rivals on top.
Krownyh That awkward moment when your chess video inadvertently turns into an advert for free market Capitalism...
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The music when Capablanca enters. The music when Alekhine and Capablanca are at the top. The music of the players that disrupted Botvinnik's reign. The music when Fischer enters and rises. And the music when Karpov and Kasparov dances above everyone. Perfect sync with chess history!
I've made a note of your comments about the music. Check out the song 'Here Comes Bob' by American group Sparks.
4:25 highest peak reached by GOAT Fischer
You know, in a video full of amazing changes and movements in the graph, the moment that always gets me is at 4:19, where Fischer edges out Tal and Petrosian, younger than everyone else on the graph at that time. Because I always see it and think "Wow, that's far ahead, everyone else is nearly neck and neck." And it never fails to impress me how immediately after that, Fischer has this 100 point spike that actually forces the graph to zoom out just to capture the scale of it. It gives a sense of how extraordinary his chess was, for his time.
And then, of course, his line starts to drop and suddenly disappear. Not because he died or even because he started to play badly, but because he stopped playing altogether. It makes you wonder how high that rise could have gone, had he chosen to continue playing, rather than stubbornly decide to excommunicate himself from chess (he refused to play Karpov to defend his title under the conditions he obtained his own title for reasons that I think only Fischer really knew. Then simply refused to play anywhere after that).
I see lots of people in the comments saying how impressive Kasparov's time at the top is and there's no doubt about it, it is. But for me, I cannot help but wonder if Fischer might have stood in Kasparov's way, had he decided to. To me, history is compelling, not for what has been but for what could have been.
That's a great comment.
Underrated
Agree, highly respect both Kasparov and Fischer, but Bobby's domination was insane and it's a shame that we didn't get to see his Championship match against Karpov, and then later against Kasparov ;)
yeah too bad fischer was an antisemitist, I wonder what a duel between fischer and karpov may have been.
fischer decided to go into a legal career, which failed, he then sat on his family fortune the rest of his life and did diddly squat. I'll be honest I don't think he liked chess, just was insanely gifted.
After the whole vid is done, you should zoom out so you could see the whole graph, it would look cool.
A bit like in his channel Cube Roll where he looks back at 2003’s records
How?
Baris Eker He was making a suggestion to the person who made it. You can’t.
@@nm5120 he is asking how is that possible? The graph would be extremely large
Sora Tenshi in that case, the answer would be a mix of layering it on top of each other because the graph is not tall, and some horizontal compression.
Age 13
Edo 2700
OK
That was not ELO
@@DennisRodman69 EDO
Not 13 but 12
Paul Morphy
ShadowboyTV 2 things, firstly you’ve grown up with access to modern theory, chess engines, every advantage that he didn’t have, he was the greatest talent ever, he played way over his peers from the second he stepped on the scene. Second, I don’t believe you.
Lasker holding number 1 at the age of 57 will never, ever be equalled.
And it's insane how far ahead of everyone else Fischer was in his prime. No wonder his opponents fell to pieces facing him.
Lol nice one
58 actually
He played always Sicilian as white, and Indian as black.
He was a one dimension player.
But he was the only that American have against Russia.
@@nostradamus522you can’t play sicilian as white…
My man kasparov got tired of winning so he retired.
Lol
Ignatz Kolisch: Finally I am the best at ch-
*dies*
He didn't die, just retired from chess. (The only person in this video who *died* as #1 was La Bourdonnais.)
1:39
😂😂😂😂😂
@@paigntoncongress8660 Jose Raul capablanca, and Petrov too
@@paigntoncongress8660Alexander Alekhine
0:44 ULTIMATE FRENCH FLAG
HAHAHAHAH LMAO
4:07 ULTIMATE RUSSIAN FLAG
@@miktohplays2621 huh?
L O N G F R E N C H
It looks like Netherlands flag sideways lmao.
Bobby Fisher registered 2893 damn. Then Kasparov 2882. Damn these legends.Still my favorite #Mikhail Tal.
Fischer 2895*
@@augustocosta7298 I also see 2893 as the maximum.
The highest ever FIDE rating was 2882, which Magnus Carlsen had on the May 2014, Bobby Fisher max was 2785 in April 1972 and Garry Kasparov peak was 2851 in July 1999...
@@sebastianszrejter8519 That's without inflation. Fischer > Carlsen
@@sebastianszrejter8519 carlsen and Bobby have different system for rating..and furthermore carlsen has live in modern access like engines, theory of previous players etc.. and he even training with kasparov..
in an engine between kasparov and bobby.. they have fought once and Bobby's engine won
KInda sad when you see a line end. Dead I assume.
Or just dropped off from the Chess world like Morphy, Fischer, etc.
aspiknf wrong
aspiknf lol. You're dead wrong here.
Weeaboo the AlphaZero-Stockfish match wasn't fair (Zero got way more processing power) but yeah, Zero is better, and can only get better.
that is a lie, it was four hours.
I really respect how long Petrov played for.
Alexander Petrov,top ten in the world,at age 69years old.
Magic đỏ
Hyacintre bouncourt
MasterTallness
Hyacintre Bouncourt played until he was 73
morphy and fischer dissapearing after beating everyone lol
And Kasparov. His rank 1 is taken for literally a day and he's outta there lol.
+Gamba Requintada Yeah, the US will beat us all in real life, they will conquer us and then, they will disappear.
Eddy Girón no soviet will beat us
Gamba Requintada they died
Gamba Requintada
Fisher simply quit chess but Morphy died
Kasparov managing to hold the first place for 23 years IN MODERN ERA is insane and makes him the absolute king of chess.
Magnus better
@@thomasmollol9466 yeah, because he has studied all the tricks and strays of the greats before him. I probably know more about science than Einstein, but not because I'm smarter, just because I was born into an era where I could study everything he helped to discover
Wosh Tube but still, everybody Can study the people before, not just Magnus. And he still wins everything
thomasmollol newer generations are always going to have an edge over previous generations in knowledge and skill because they can learn from previous generations and add any new knowledge/skill. That’s why the best athletes in pretty much any sport are alive now. There are outliers who are phenoms, so it may take a few generations to surpass, but it will eventually happen.
@@thomasmollol9466 you didnt have internet before and touube breakdowns and stuff
Paul Morphy was #1 starting from 12 years of age, impressive👏🏻👏🏻
+gespilk why?
no human will ever get to that level. We have already accepted computers are better than us but the game of chess is still very much alive
+gespilk Please note it is still not entirely clear whether Alpha-Beta search is better than Neural Networking. The conditions of the Stockfish vs. AlphaZero matches placed a handicap on Stockfish which limited its overall playing strength. No opening book, 1 GB of hash data to use, weaker/older version are just a few examples. The Stockfish Development has sent a rematch request to Google's Deepmind asking for an exhibition match under fairer conditions a few weeks prior. So far they have not responded. You can find this open letter on Google Groups titled "Fishcooking" If you have any questions feel free to ask. I'll try my best to answer them.
you think that just because a computer can be really good at a game that the game is instantly dead and no humans will play it, a lot of people thought chess was dead after kasparov lost to deep blue, but it's not. Humans still love playing other humans, and lower difficulty computers. Why would chess die just because computers are the best. When you look up best chess player it doesn't come up alphago, it comes up magnus carlsen, a human. Because that's what people care about. You keep making a lot of statements but not explaining how they are at all relevant to the subject and how it will affect chess.
+GameToon Well said! I HIGHLY doubt chess will die off anytime soon.
There is someting really sad about Bobby Fischer's graph from 1970 to 1974. That symmetric rise and fall before it stops.
Enter a name here you don't know about him?
"Sad" is the perfect word to describe it.
@Tokisaki Kurumi It would have been a tragedy if that pathetic human being would have gotten to 2900. Bobby Fischer is a stain on the history of Chess.
@@furkankarakaya26 talent does not make up being a terrible person. The filth that used to come out of his mouth has no place in sport.
@@sagiezov3969 yes why don't we apply out narrowminded 21st century ideals to something that happened almost half a century ago. Do you forget that Fischer is the man who turned chess into a profession moreso than any other person on this list? The person that transformed playing chess from a hobby to a viable career?
Say what you want about Fischer, he was obviously mentally afflicted to some capacity. But the impact he had on chess as a whole is objectively, undeniably positive.
I played an old Cuban man that played against Jose Capablanca back in the day.
How was it?
Old means less brainpower. ;-)
That "old" Cuban must been a very young man fighting against an age 50+ Jose Capablanca
Unistealth Universe stealth yeah. He was a very young man at the time. When I played him he was probably mid 80’s or so. That was back in 2007. So he’s probably gone now.
4:43 Kasparov and Karpov look like they're dancing together
Botvinnik seems to have been somewhat overlooked. His dominance over the field in December 1945 rivals that of Fischer's in April 1972.
What tournaments occurred December 1945?
lasker is unbelievable. dude goes 20 years as the undisputed number one. then it looks like the juggernaut capa is just gonna trounce him, but nope, that's then the old man decides to cross 2800.
I thought the exact same thing!!!
22 years and like 4 months.
Stronk.
lask 22.2
kasp23.5
You really can see the relation between the #1 players and the ones preceding it - unless the top player is relentlessly more advanced than the others - the top 2 peaks together a lot of the times because they use each others to train and motivate on constant success.
2:48 Competitiveness takes you to a whole new level.
it's actually really amazing the man Lasker never gave up and continued to fight for the 1st spot
"I will use modern flags"
*sees flag of Yugoslavia*
For the glory of Yugoslavia
Also to avoid a Balkan war in the comments because many Balkan nationalists claim all/most of yugoslavia was their ethnicities (especially Serbs)
Garry Kasparov is still ranked the longest Top of the League GrandMaster for 23 years and that is a remarkable record, that nobody has yet beaten. Let's see if Margus Carlsen can be the number in the next 16 years or so! I'll be back to UA-cam in 2033 with a better laptop and 16K TV!
Karim Sumar
If you count every year Lasker was number one,Lasker would have 26 years record so Kasparov's record is already beaten
I hold you to it. I will be 49 years by then.
It was never a record to begin with since Lasker was before Kasparov.
LokiIsHere Not consecutively like Kasparov, Lasker was broken up into different periods
Chessmetrics explains it well
Remember when Magnus tied Garry when he was like 12!?
From the graphics you can see that Lasker found a second chess live competing with Capablanca, and Capablanca found a comeback fighting Alekhine.
Longest streak : Garry Kasparov (23years 5month)
the most at n°1 : Emmanuel Lasker (25years 9 month)
first to 2800 : José Capablanca (early 1915)
youngest n°1 : Paul morphy (12years old)
oldest : Willhelm Steinitz (53years old)
Highest rate : Bobby Fischer (2893)
I really love how every big name of chess share records.
The highest rating depends on which rating system you're talking about. If it's Chessmetrics, then you're correct, but if it's ELO, then Bobby was around 2780.
Why first to 2800????
Nah bro Emannuel Lasker was the oldest at 57 years old
@@19nuances my bad you're right !
@@HenriRegnaultUserpage it can be something like oldest with a consecutive title or something like that!
You can notice a period when almost entire list consists of Soviet Union chess players
There was a point in the 50s to 60s where the world chess federation actually limited how many candidates for the world chess championship could be Soviet. So like you'd have a tournament or a bracket of 8 players to decide who plays the champion next, and only 5 of those players could be Soviet, which led to a lot of relatively weaker players getting into the tournament and then being crushed...
And then comes the legend "Bobby Fischer".
@@zeoxyman Yes, there's a couple Soviet players who said that winning the Soviet Chess Championship was actually harder than winning the Candidates' Tournament. It's the same thing with table tennis today, where winning the Chinese national championship is actually harder than winning the Olympics.
@@antoniosoares9273 It just shows that if we set our minds to it, work hard & sacrifice, make good decisions we can be successful. We can apply this to other areas of life as well - there is no need for any country to be poor - but few countries it seems are willing to do this
@@antoniosoares9273 Yet Russia is a broke country - with millions of men wasting their life away in drink
Shows that intelligence doesn't always translate
Fischer's spike was like Mount Everest, the most dramatic occurrence on the graph I thought.
i think he got famous because top players were mostly soviets at the time and he was american
BaHaEzZz That and during the candidates matches he totally demolished a top Soviet grandmaster 6-0 and then did the same to the pride of Demark. And then he dismantled the former WC Tigran Petrosian with ease. And then He went on to just slaughter Spassky. He basically put Russia over the barrel without lube. He was invincible during that time. The reincarnation of Paul Morphy. Absolute domination.
Paul West I was thinking the same. Obviously there is some ambiguity about ratings over time but he seems to have come in hit the highest peak of all time and then just left.
"That and during the candidates matches he totally demolished 2 top Soviet grandmasters 6-0 " Really? Taimanov was a soviet grandmaster and the other? Are you talking about Bent Larsen? He wasn't exactly soviet or was he!?
Aðalsteinn Thorarensen I edited my comment for clarity. Yes you were right. bent Larsen was not Soviet
I got really sad when Paul Morphy's line just ended.
+Sean Sternberg my thoughts exactly!!
+Sean Sternberg But that bloody Bobby Fischer touched 2900...holy pig...xD
+Sai Kiran He didn't, doesn't anybody know anything? I hope nobody only listens to this one video, try looking at Google for knowledge too...this video is incorrect, deeply, none of them touched anywhere near 2900, not even 2800s for the early ones in fact, Magnus holds the highest rating of 2882 in history and Bobby did hold the highest at 2870. This is not accurate at all. Paul was much greater than Wil for starters.
+The Anti-Theist He followed a CMR rating, which converted to a Fide rating is easily 2900.
Warhammer, this video was based not just on the ELO system but using the more accurate chessmetrics and EDO Historical records which offer the very best accurate ratings in comparisons of all players including those pre-1970 when the ELO ratings came into existence. You may be stuck on the ELO system as the only lone that counts but many of us do not think that. The inflated ELO ratings of players today are a perfect example that ELO is not the most accurate way of calculating players playing strength alone.
I see a pattern.. most players have their peak at age 25. Then at 35 they drop on performance. Makes me think about my life. I'm 26 years and still haven't built nothing good...
Very nice perspective
It's only chess. Churchill became prime minister when he was 70 or something and then won the war
@@Cullinan000 Churchill singlehandedly killed the British Empire. Thats why the British have a saying "Britain formed an Empire in spite of their government"
They start at age 12-13 and put their 10000 hours around age 25. Start now and you can put yours in around 37!
often in chess other people get better and you just dont improve
4:22 watching Bobby's leap over the field, just mind boggling how much better he was than everyone else. Just had no equal.
The Karpov-Kasparov era is really epic, with the music and all, in this video.
that must hast been a ton of work for just one video. well done
Paul Morphy was basically the Fischer/Carlsen of his era.
Man carlsen lost fisher random 4-0 to Wesley so!!!
@@rishbahpandey8697 traditional chess days are over i guess
@@rishbahpandey8697 not a big deal fisher chess not very popular
@@rishbahpandey8697 Wesley is literally the Fischer Random world champion
@@Cnut_the_grape yess
Seeing Karpov and Kasparov leagues ahead of everyone else pushing each other was amazing
Two great Ka
Imagine if Fischer stayed around and had similar rivalry with Karpov for years to come. They'd become so strong that Kasparov's reign could be delayed and his reign shortened (because he'd face a stronger, toughened Karpov in the 1980s, and as we know they were pretty evenly matched, if you look at their lifetime score). Today it would be discussed whether Fischer or Karpov was the GOAT, and Kasparov (while remarkable and highly respected) would be a bit behind on most people's list, kind of taking what is Karpov's place in our timeline.
4:26 OMG, Fisher - 2893 rating ELO.
No, is CMR, that Equal 2793 ELO Aprox obvius fisher woulb be at top 5 of the world nowadays
2793 in 1970 with ratings inflation is worth at least 2893 now, roughly the same as the peak rating of Carlsen. At that time, 2700 was the sort of rating that got you to be world champion.
@Barbell schwarzehonkey So what do you think Fischer with a computer would be like? The guy learned Russian so he could read their magazines. Driven is an understatement.
Carlsen's Achilles heel is his theory, as Caruana demonstrated. Fischer would not have that.
@Barbell schwarzehonkey Look up how FIDE administers the Elo system. They inject points into the system especially after Elo left then they started putting in even more points.
Ratbacon past era players will always be weaker regardless of how talented they are. Today's players have already combed out weak lines (to avoid defeat or steer to a draw) using chess engines from millions of games from the database. If Carlsen were to play a 21 game match against prime Kasparov or Fisher... Magnus will aways be the safest bet, in fact I would expect him not to lose even 1 game if he's in tip top shape.
sad how Bobby Fischer just vanished from the world of chess after he won the title. he might've been able to defend his title against Karpov.
I guess US goverment didn't like that Fischer played against USSR during cold war.
Not a problem in 75 but 78 may have been.
the chess world was defineatly cheated when fischer never played karpov. but hey, Paul Morphy was slighted too.
Yes he was indeed but he would not have defeated Fischer at that time. Even Karpov admitted his chances were no more that 40-60. By 1978 when Karpov played Korchnoi he was much stronger and then perhaps he may have achieved winning the title.
Karpov has said many times in interviews that his chances were 45 to 55 (coz of confidence), but he would have higher chances of winning the next year.
My God, I've heard of Lasker before, but I had no idea he reigned over chess for so long!
Largely because he went often years without having to defend his title.
Matt Clark he won the New York 1924 tournament at the age of 56, which had most of the top players in the world at that time. He took third in Moscow 1935 at the age of 66!
He was a true fighter at the chess board.
I have the book Life of a Chess Master which is all about him, awesome!
Kasparov reigned longer having all the competitors and the rise of computer analysis
Steinitz-2784 🇦🇹 1876
Lasker-2841 🇩🇪 1919
Capablanca-2870 🇨🇺1919
Alekhine-2854 🇷🇺 1931
Euwe-2761 🇳🇱 1936
Botvinnik-2882 🇷🇺 1945
Smyslov-2796 🇷🇺 1956
Tal-2795 🇱🇻 1960
Petrosan-2793 🇷🇺 1962
Spassky-2774🇷🇺-🇫🇷 1969
Fischer-2893 🇺🇸 1971
Karpov-2845🇷🇺 1989
Kasparov-2882 🇷🇺1990-1993
Kramnik-2825🇷🇺 2001
Anand-2833🇮🇳 1998
Carlsen-2878🇳🇴 2014
23 years, WTF!! This is why Kasparov is the king!
It's funny to see his rating hike when others start to catch up like, "oh okay, I'll start trying again."
Jeff K That's an interesting observation. My thought was that they went on a downward slope when they lacked competition and got better when they had challengers to test them.
Also notice... Kasparov had a rating of over 2800 for all 23 of those years.....
Nah, it's probably because ELO is a relative system. You only really gain points playing against those of the same or higher skill level.
Well everyone was under Kasparov yet he was still gaining points.
So many tragic fates behind those lines
Like who?
@@solderbuff Bobby Fischer for example
@@pinksocks8697, one example does not prove the "many" claim.
@@solderbuff Well yeah I agree, I don't know every famous chess player that ever existet but I heard that a lot or great player lost their mind and things like that. Also chess during the cold war took a political dimension causing problem to some of the greatest player, so maybe that's what he was referring to. English is not my first language so sorry if you didn't understand all I said.
@@solderbuff Florin Gheorghiu... if Ceauşescu let him go train with Boris Spassky, Anatoly Karpov would have never been first, since Florin Gheorghiu was much better.. but unfortunatelly he didn't have the opportunity :(
How sad to see Paul Morphy flying high across the years like a meteor then falling from the sky . He would have gone off the scale had he lived longer and battled Steinitz for the world championship around 1869.. Then there was Harry Nelson Pillsbury shoot up to number 2 in 1902 behind lasker before passing away to the terrible disease Syphilis.
Gioachino Greco (17th Century)
Paul Morphy
Mikhail Tal
Bobby Fischer
Garry Kasparov
and Magnus Carlsen...... they are my Chess Idols.
Wow Viswanathan Anand almost never No. 1 but 5 World Championship titles.
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But he plays like a gentleman, he kind of gave chess its superstar Magnus.
@@Myrslokstok Yes, Anand destroyed all the obstacles for Magnus.
He was
5:24
Just for 2007 and 20018
Had Paul Morphy been alive in today's computer age I think he would be just as dominating now as he was then. The reason is his incredible brain was just wired for seeing chess combinations. Computers would have only helped him accumulate more pattern recognition. Mikhail Botvinnik (the grand patriarch of the Soviet chess school) said that since Morphy stopped playing, nothing new has been discovered in the open game. Not bad for a kid just playing chess to kill time until he "came of age" to practice law. Morphy didn't even like chess; he thought it was a waste of time. In the meantime he memorized the entire law codex for the state of Louisiana just to pass his bar exam. Can you imagine if he had access to the complete games of Alekhine, Tal, Fischer, Capablanca, Carlsen and Kasparov? He would memorize their games (if he were interested) and assimilate the current theory into his own games and just start destroying all the professional chess masters like he did back in the 1850's. He made Adolf Anderson look like a patzer -- and Anderson was no slouch: he was a VERY strong tactical genius in his own right. But Morphy beat him so bad, that Anderson could do nothing but shake his head and laugh during their games.
Paul West INTJS are lonely at the top.
Bobby fischer and Paul Morphy.
Meyers Briggs personality types are spook.
Wesley Joel lol, fucking wut. Watch Ben Finegold's video on that topic. I believe it's called something like "Morphy was a 2100 player: refuted."
Samuel Young yeah, he brought up the fact that Morphy was spotting Rooks and Knights and playing BLINDFOLD SIMULS while doing so, annhiliating the best players of his era in doing so. But sure, all 2100's do that without issue.
1:37
Ignatz: I have to be the numer one!
Paul Morphy: no
Lol
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I never heard of Hyacinthe Boncourt before, but he was in the top ten and improved continuously until his death at about age 75. That is very impressive.
So basically Russians have dominated the history of chess. Amazing
That’s like saying Mohammad Ali wasn’t American but black or that many other ethnicities not being American.
Russia has been a mixed society for many many centuries that goes back to the Byzantine empire. They are Russian (aside from the Armenian ones, but you mentioned that for no reason since it said Armenia for him)
Jewish Americans are Americans and our Jewish Russians are Russians.
chess is huge in russia. not so much in america. it was even more important in the soviet era, which makes it amazing that fischer beat spassky, who had the might of the soviet chess machine behind him.
Ashkenazi Dissident Right very funny. Just google Yakutia or Tatarstan and try to imagine if people living there are Russians or not
Just honestly think about it look at the date and the country Russia represents the Soviet Union ( that Robert J. Fischer totally crushed )
@@channelname501 even lot of good gms have changed their federation!! Karjakin was Ukrainian!!!
UPDATED LIST: April 2019
1. Magnus Carlsen, Norway
2. Fabiano Caruana, USA
3. Liren Ding, China
4. Anish Giri, Netherlands
5. Shahkriyar Mamedyarov, Azerbaijan
6. Viswanathan Anand, India
7. Ian Nepomniachtchi, Russia
8. Maxime Vachier-Lagrave, France
9. Alexander Grischuk, Russia
10. Levon Aronian, Armenia
None of them play like Karpov, Fisher, Tal.
@@manonfire5410 carlsen beat karpov at the age of 13 lmao
@@manonfire5410 Yes, cause they're simply better.
But Fabiano Caruana is Italian...
@@cresenter150 Caruana HAS italian origins but he is a Naturalized American. He represents USA when playing chess, not Italy.
Watching this video after having consumed a million lectures is so awesome because you finally recognize most of the names and are able to appreciate the players for who they were beyond the game.
I came to rewatch this video after 100 or so Ben Finegold's Great players of the past videos.
4:35 - Grande Mequinho !
Muito fera, nao sabia.
Só vim a este vídeo para ver o nome dele!
Pena ter durado tão pouco no cenário internacional
Great visualization. I'm just sad that at the end you didn't zoom out so we can see the whole spectrum, and maybe at that time you could bold the topmost line made out of all #1's throughout the history :)
+Andrej Križan That's easy: Paul, Jose, Bobby. The end.
waiting for Mikhail Tal, when the name came up, Joy in the Eyes
*IN THE SPIRIT OF MIKHAIL TAL*
4:24 never thought just a line could be such a sad story
I know, Fischer was the best!
That is all dramatized there was no fall it was a peak and then an instant drop when fischer stopped playing
@@paulmorphy6314 Yes, but he was the best. He beated Taimanov 6:0! Smyslov 5:2. Spassky 5:2! Petrosyan 6:1!
Yep. Defenetely greatest of all time.
@@paulmorphy6314 But you are Paul Morphy! 👍😉😂😂
My man Alexander petrov played himself for 10 years, and he always won, incredible russian, as always.
4:23 bobby shot up like a rocket!
I NEED THAT CHART AS A POSTER!
Fcstfan You will have to wait until the computer and the printer will be invented.
LoL
Fischer rules!!
That Bobby Fischer spike was insane.
Emanuel Lasker is the Roger Federer of chess. He ruled chess for total 27 years
more like djokovic...
I can't believe that I was so smart, 2 years ago.
Despite a short reign, Tal is one of my favorite players of all time.
@@User-yq1qu whats so special about tal
@@RAHULTMNT100 he like to sacs many pieces, but compare to other best players he not so strong tho
@@panmk1231 he relied on compensation but he was one of the greatest
@@ronharleypantaleon1824 yea i know, i just explain a little bit about him
4:28 Bobby Fisher RIP :((
I'm not too sure why he stopped there but he died in 2008.
Although It's probably his political views.
he went crazy and quit chess before the 1975 world championship.
He did a show match with Spasky or something much later (somewhere around 2000? can't find the details), but by then neither of them were near the top, so it wasn't very well followed.
1992
vibovitold
Ah yes, that makes sense, thanks for the correction.
Just the data alone makes Bobby Fischer's career look heartbreaking.
Kasparov seemed to stayed on top for a solid 20 years… shit me
Fischer knew when to say ok this is just a game, it's time to grow up.
The music just fits the atmosphere so good well done caba.
I was waiting to see Deep Blue on the list
Me to I was disappointed that the graph didn't quickly become dominated by computers. Chess is really no longer a human sport.
Following this logic sprint is no longer a human sport, because a ferrari and other cars are much faster than Usain Bolt.
Dieter Puth not the same, chess can be literally played the exact same way as a human, cars cannot run the same way as a human
@ Deema Bowgen Only the result - a good move - is the same with a well playing human and a computer. Nowadays the computer is more constant aigainst the best humans and wins most time. But even when the same move is played the thinking process or calculation method are completely different. Human strength: Intuition, pattern recognition, creativity. Computer: access to database, very fast brute force calculation, which can lead to a simulation of intuiton or creativity, but only for the resulting move, not for the way to find it.
Dieter Puth Not all chess programs brute force the same way, the parrot chess program used a kind of deep learning very similar to AlphaGo (because alpha go was based on it partially)
Also I have serious doubts as to the extent that human creativity or intuition make one good at chess.
In go the best players in the world are occasionally _under 18_ whereas this is not true in chess.
Many moves in go are also based on intuition, where players can't explain why they made the move they did, whereas chess not so much.
This was fantastic. It did exactly what a great visualization should do -- taught me a ton of stuff I didn't already know. For example, I never realized how young Morphy was when he quit. And I never realized how long Lasker's reign lasted.
It was also fascinating to see the recurring phenomenon of a top player breaking out of the pack and dominating by quite a margin. I don't know enough about the statistical properties of ratings to know why that is for sure but a quick armchair thought is that it implies a paradigm shift brough to the game by the breakout player.
In any event this was incredibly cool!
My only criticism was no mention of Deep Blue. Or whatever the current top computer is called.
alpha zero?
Even if you don't care about chess, this music combined with the visuals tells a tale of little floating organisms trying to be at the top while swimming to the right. If you ignore the flags and names, this performance tells us how fleeting life is, and how we are all trying to hop the highest amount in the air as we plunge into the abyss.
:D
I also thought about all those names scrambling at the bottom of the rating, getting to and falling out of top 10. Hardly noticeable, and many of them unrecognizable. But ffs they must have been damn good too, right?? "In the end it doesn't even matter" : )
Yeah. I think that one of the bad sides of globalization is that people (because they have only so much space in their memory) remember top few people in the world, and completely ignore top few people in their country, let alone city. Only when, after a number of years, someone from their city or country climbs the ladder, do they recognize them, and all other are quickly forgotten. :( :D
Vladimir Bajic That might of been the most retarded thing I have ever read.
con razon kasparov dijo, que el ajedrez se parece a la vida misma, tenemos subidas y bajadas.
Small loan of a Million dollars Then you didn't read your own comment? Lol.
The music just fits the atmosphere so well, well done caba.
Love it how Lasker mada a comeback at old age. Proves that your brain isn't necessarily wasted just because you're old.
Lasker was WC longer then anyone. Also if you read Laskers biography .. he dominated most of his opponennts in Match play..Marshal Janowsky Tarrasch etc lost by wide margins...even Steintz was crushed..tho Steintz was an old man by then. For this reason...an argument can be made that Lasker is in the Mix as the GOAT ...
Great video. What do you use to make the visualizations?
+44616E6E79 I'd also love to know this!
He uses the programming language "Processing" afaik
+44616E6E79 Thanks! I used Processing 2 to create the line graphs and save them into image files, and I used Sony Vegas to turn the image files into a video! There were also a bunch of Java programs I wrote to interpolate data between the three sources, which always seemed to take dozens of tries to get to work correctly.
+Abacaba Great result !!!
+Abacaba Bloody well done mate! And I'm not even into chess.
The period when Lasker, Capablanca and Alekhine were all contenders for the number 1 spot must have been awesome. Three incredible players.
And interesting personalities with tragic lives.
Ppl seem's missunderstanding this for World Champion. It isn't. It's No #1 Chess Player based on Rating in every era/years.
The latter part of the video shows that Carlsen is the true successor of
the older generation that starts with Murphy up to Kasparov. Carlsen,
also, had this distinguished leap over the others. He is truly a
classical world champion!
but the most fascinating part is how it shows the great duels for
the top through ages; Steinitz vs Zukertort, lasker vs Steinitz, Lasker
vs Capablanca, Alekhine vs Capablanca, .......up to the great duel
between Karpov and Kasparov. I hope we will see another duel between
Carlsen and another challenger instead of these one sided battles!
also remarkable for this video is how it shows the rise and the
downfall of the great players through ages. really, really fascinating
video!
Mish Shoghlak I agree.
Lasker was the longest at the top. He also wrote philosophy and studies of mathematics. One of great geniuses of history.
No Kasparov was for 23 years Lasker 21 or 22 one of those but it was not continuous so idk
Holy shit, that was f-ing awesome! Amazing!
First to 2200: Alexander Petrov, Jun 1814
First to 2300: Aaron Alexandre, Aug 1818
First to 2400: Alexandre Deschapelles, Sep 1820
First to 2500: Alexandre Deschapelles, Sep 1820
First to 2600: Alexandre Deschapelles, Sep 1820
First to 2650: Louis de la Bourdonnais, Dec, 1835
First to 2700: Paul Morphy, Nov 1850
First to 2750: Paul Morphy, Feb 1853
First to 2800: Jose Raul Capablanca, Feb, 1915
First to 2850: Jose Raul Capablanca, Feb, 1919
The music when Kasparov is the leader.👌
0:11 pause. There’s this guy called Aleksei Kopev with a ? For an age and only lasts a split second. 🤔
Lol didn't notice that.
If there's no information in en-segment of internet: Alexei Kopev was a writer, and was known as best St. Petersburg's chess player in early 18xx. He was beaten by young player Alexandr Petrov in 1809.
? Means Abacaba couldn’t find the person’s age.
Okay, one more info for non-ru-speaking users: Alexei Kopev was born in 1767
I mean that Abacaba couldn’t find what age was he in that time.
I dont know how much patience you had to make this but thats one of the most amazing videos i ve seen...
The second music track just fits so perfectly with the graphs. It brings up all the stories of the players when I watch it.
4:33 I think this shows how dominant Bobby Fischer was at his time.
Paul Morphy!
I love how Steinitz was going down for a long time and loosing his game, but everyone else was also sucking, so it didn't matter.
that Capablanca time sure was a crazy one for all
Bobby 2893. Best ever. 6-0 vs Taimanov, 6-0 vs Larsen, and 1-0 against Petrosian, 20 consecutive wins till the date, and finally wins 6’5-2'5 vs Petrosian, to win finally the World Championship Against Spassky by 12'5-8'5. Insuperable.
Sagaz Mc Caruana's 11-0 was amazing too
Sagaz Mc you are comparing a number that was not elo with today's numbers that are elo. Also, ratings will change with a change in opponent's strengths as well, even if the measurement was done in the same metric.
Sagaz Mc 2893? Will it ever be beaten?
Actually it was 16 in a row if including only GM games and non forfeited games.
Um. Except that it's actually not accurate. Look him up on Wikipedia. His peak rating was well under 2893. I'm not sure if this graph is somehow adjusted to try to compensate for ratings inflation but his peak rating was 2785 and that's more than 100 points off from the video's claim, he never reached 2800.
Kasparov is the GOAT is what this graph is telling me
Magnus is the only true GOAT.
Morphy was the only goat
What about...goats.
That was amazing. Morphy's dominance was just huge. And interesting how small Fischer's rain was compared to Botnivik, Lasker Morphy and Kasparov when you see it over time
Because he quit playing after '72
4:35 Wow, I never knew that Brazil got a top 10 rated chess player. Sadly, it's not a very developed sport here.
True
same with Argentina 3:39
@@charlie172011 Miguel Najdorf was actually born in Poland in a jewish family (as Mieczyslaw Najdorf in Grodzisk Mazowiecki), he got argentinian citizenship in 1944 after he emigrated there just before WW2 (in which he lost all his family). Savielly Tartakower was his chess teacher (he appears on the list in top4 around 21'). He was one of the few on the list that wasn't only pro chess player but also successful businessman, he owned insurance company and was one of the wealthiest mans in Argentina.
@@b3k0n yeah I read about him after this watching this video.