Viktor, the Herald of the Arcane | Champion Update Trailer - League of Legends
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2024
- Evolution awaits. Glorious and inevitable.
Viktor returns as the Herald of the Arcane with fresh visuals and a powerful new ult. Embrace his salvation on Dec 11.
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''They cling to suffering because it is familiar'' that's league alright.
Wack, the people with that mindset need to quit. I play for fun unlike many lmoa
Real.
bro fr
Yo... Stop with the facts, please.
Sobbing at this comment.
Bitscrank- “You took… everything from me.”
Arcane Victor- “I don’t even know who you are.”
You already know why I am commenting
They are still conected in lore
He still made him, listen to voice lines
I think its gonna end up singed becoming blitzcrank's inventor, or he's a blueprint left over by viktor and jayce
Viktor has lines for Blitzcrank and alludes to him being his creator.
"Viktor, Viktor, Viktor" - Blitzcrank
Blitzcrank doesn't even exist anymore
@@deonm4759from voicelines from Viktor himself, we can infer he is still canon, and he just created him behind the scenes or after Arcane
@@deonm4759 he does, voice lines confirmed viktor build blitzcrank and he evolved by himself
Viktooooor
viktooooor
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine.
Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved.
For the Machine is Immortal."
Viktor nation…how we feeling?
bad
Pissed.
definitely jaybe not
Huge L
Jayce, Jaybe or Jaybe not.
Farewell old friend. I haven't played in the league for a long time, but I will remember you as the pinnacle of evolution.
Glorious Evolution?
Not anymore sadly u.u
apparently Rito's new ideal of evolution means becoming more feminine. Gross.
@@VonMavis stuck into evolution= muscles/brute strength, because it seems familiar to you 🗿
@Fregorite how is he the machine herald any more how is he the cyborg that built his combat abilities who didn't rely on magic but his intelligence to build machines that put him on par with those using magic? Now he is just a mage who uses magic just like all the other generic ones
"How they resist change" bro is already shooting shots towards the community 😂
Literally my first thought when I heard the line 😂
brother this is devolution, exactly the opposite
@@luxjam1737 i'm sorry but this version just looks better and better sells Viktor's whole fantasy. Original Viktor doesn't look like a man who replaced his body with incredible technology, he looks like a discount Dr. Doom. It looks like a suit. This Viktor is emaciated and clad only in a cloak for the express purpose of showing us that his body is composed entirely of living metal and it works better, straight-up. Also, the animations are more striking, kinetic, and beautiful.
It's like when people were livid that Jinx was no longer Dollar Tree Harley Quinn in Arcane. I'd rather see a character grow past a shallow ripoff into something more unique 9/10.
@@grannys_sinister_corn_matrix Dumb comment lol, Viktor was a clunky cyborg, just that, this new design could be a new champion, not throw all we had in trash
@@grannys_sinister_corn_matrix This is like picking blitzcrank and make his a arcane golem and say 'uh hes better because his battery dont wear off', just stop man
From Machine Herald to the Arcane Herald.
Literally flipped his story from "I can augment myself" into "magic can change me".
Dogshit recognizes dogshit.
The guys at Riot games know it to well.
I wonder if anyone that worked on og Viktor still works there...
Probably replaced by quirky redditor women.
not to make an argument here but did you watch arcane season 2? he doesn't go "magic can change me" lol he still holds the idea of "i can augment myself via the anomaly"
@@EmmyOnUA-cam It is most anomaly and arcane then technological evolution anyway, thats exactly why the Herald changed from Machine Herald to Arcane Herald, there is almost no more machine and just a magical construct.
@@hermys4178 And yet it still holds onto the core aspect of 'Evolution'- to change and become something greater. Either the Machine hivemind, or a magical one. Either way, it's still keeping the Heart and Soul of Victor, even if he had to shed his metal body for something new.
@@lolzism1
I believe that's the problem. We wanted the Machine Herald. A man who built his literal own mettle/metal. Not a cool looking magic man with a seemingly inexplicable way of making things. We wanted a Dark Tony Stark with a "noble" cause (not that familiar with Doctor Doom but many used him as an example).
YOU TOOK THE MACHINE HERALD FROM US, YOU MONSTERS
JUSTICE FOR VIKTOR
He is straight up a better representation of a machine herald now. A man made of metals turning other people into machines is way better than the heavy weight lifter that stuck some metal bits on him. New Viktor is just better in every way
@@TeatimeToadDon't rage bait pls
@@TeatimeToad How is he a machine herald when he is not machine anymore?
@@Jay9966 he's literally made out of metal. he turns other people into mindless vessels (machines).
And with this, Blitzcrank oficially lost his lore.
Welcome to the club, my rusty friend!
- Shaco
Blitzcrank's lore shall change , no need to stress.
Camille: ONE OF US ONE OF US
Serafine: Join the club, buddy.
@@jfcm_yt it shouldn't have to begin with. stupid.
Viktor still has voicelines referencing creating Blitz lol. Maybe actually verify the things you say before posting them everywhere
They removed the machine from the machine herald
IP infringment with Dr. Doom
They changed his name now to The Herald of the Arcane 😂
He's LITERALLY a metal Messiah who controls half metal people wth are you whiners whining about??
so true :(
@@o-wolfA nail is also made out of metal and it‘s still not a machine. With this rework it‘s clear that magic binds the metal to him, not his own ingenuity and engineering. There is no machine anymore at all. Just a sort of glorified, walking magic-iron-statue that can cast spells.
Ngl, this is the biggest inglorious devolution I've seen since the Aatrox rework.
He only needed an updated kit and an ASU, not a whole rework with the same old kit. And this is coming from a non Viktor main. This ain't Viktor no more, this is Vincent.
It's sad to see that everything now a days are getting influenced by woke people, I mean it's really clear what happens to Viktor. Viktor should have a Giga Chad type of story which is sort of happening in the first season as if it is the original plan, I also saw a leaked screenshot of what he might look like originally and he was very tall, huge looking piece of metal armor around him like in the original league version.
Yet they made him curvy twig a$$ g*y boi because it's not woke enough and it offends their community that the original story is too much "masculinity". Just like most of the movie reworks now a days are getting woke.
@bulbulitobayagbagan9633 I get what you're saying, but calling this "woke" is a bit of a stretch. I didn't mind his "twink" design in Arcane because it actually made sense for his story, especially his League lore, it justified his fixation in physically modifying himself. Season 1 made me think we were getting League's Viktor with a bit of hextech at play, but we didn't, which is were I started to have a problem. They took his core aesthetic away and deleted Blitzcranck from existence in the process. I'm not sure why they didn't use LoR Viktor as reference. Maybe you're right, idk, I took a break from Arcane after Season 2 Act 2, since I kinda lost interest once I saw what happened to Viktor by the end of it. I'm sure he survives by plot armor, but I couldn't recognize the character anymore and I'm also positive he won't become a robot man like in the fake leaked image.
@@undyne1 I think Viktor is the one character that sucked the most. They really should've introduced original characters and made them into champions later on like Ambessa instead of forcibly inserting existing champ into roles they weren't meant to be in. Another instance being Warwick.
Another champion that was disrespected in the show was Heimerdinger. He was supposed to be a genius, and yet everyone else was better than him. He was a no good principal that said no to innovation because he was scared. Completely different from the champion we see and hear in LoL and LoR.
Inglorious Devolution got me weak
Viktor had literally 0 lore and was a mess of a character lol. He needed to change.
Hes just a wizard now honestly.
You're a wizard Viktor!
Good one 😂@@Mezzykins
*"The Glorious malnutrition has come...."*
This aint Viktor this is Vincent
The glorious ozempic
You don't need muscles when you are perfection.
I don't think he needs nutrition anymore, to be honest.
The Ozempic Evolution
Viktor, the Herald of Ozempic
Haha, that's a pretty joke
💀
Vincent
this is a man of culture
HAHAHA this is so good, lol
"Metal is perfection" to Malnutrition is perfection
I dont love the new design, but the fact people have watched arcane and still misinderstood the fact that Viktor was skinny because he was sick and not because he was "malnurished" is embarrassing...
This quote gonna make me cry.
I wouldn't mind the change as much if he had the save voice as in arcane... his accent was iconic
Way too expensive
His voice is the one thing I like about the rework because they brought back the original VA
No. The original actor is perfect.
I'm not sure if its true. But, I read somewhere that its more conplex than money. Something to do with unions, and Arcane being a show and league being a game.
@@spectacularspider-man4886 is this the OG voice actor? He reminded me of Velkoz.
Did Ekko rewind his nutrition? 💀
😂
he was never a healthy man in arcane lol
xDDDD
@@deib2719they are literally talking about how the arcane version becoming part of the main game is a negative lol
@@deib2719 Nice try kiddo, Arcane isn't the Viktor we've been playing with for a decade, little boy. Sit this one out.
"Their bodies are frail." Viktor 2011-2024
"This body is frail." r/viktormains 2024
"Inferior Construct" -r/Viktormains 🗿
@@3ΘΕΌΣ6 "Destroy, then improve" 💀
Correction: Bodies are not needed
the old quote is almost comical, mf substitute his body with machinery and his leg still broken
_Causes the apocolypse_
--> 'is frail'
Can't make this up
It's not a champion update. It's a complete rewrite. From machine herald to magic boy (hwei 2.0). Honestly I am disappointed but that is what happens when you fire your experienced creative staff.
Do you forget the fact that he fused with his braces via the hexcore, a part machine part magical Item mix, or are you so close minded that if a mechanical object is made off of a magical crystal designed by a human the very moment magic is added the Item is suddenly not mechanical nor human made? The whole hate on him is mostly influenced by his animations and stature, everyone suddenly forgot that old Victor was 80% cape 10% cane and the other 10% the 3rd arm, his walking cycle was clunky and stiff which someone said was meant to be that way since he was supposed to be part machine, which clashed heavilly with his glorious evolution theme because if upgrading means u cant walk smoothly then its onestly just a straight up downgrade, and comon old Victor's torso was a rectangle lol, he was a mess
Viktor is going for a walk.
A very enthusiastic walk.
Viktoorr Viktoooorr VIKTOOORR !!
catwalk
Skinny legend
Perhaps, some sip.
"Hey, police girl!"
-Victor on a Walk Probably
He doesnt even have a running animation anymore, he is just a olympic race walker now. I guess alot of the people they fired was animators and designers.
jhin, viktor, swain... soon every champ will be limping .... LoL Limping of Legends
@@arazdziedzic9640more like league of limping
i dont think victor should run
it wouldnt be look good
@@utkusen81why ... He's literally a machine
For people who wouldn't get it. Old viktor fantasy is using technology to be at par with other magical beings, while other using void, blood, spirit, elemental, or runic magic, Viktor uses real life concept which he realizes at a fantasy setting like magnetism, gravity, energy, and ionic storm. Even his staff is tesla's coil and the hexcore is an infinite power source. This new viktor power just looks like other generic magic. You who says this design is better, good for you! design is subjective, but you cannot tell me this is viktor the difference is too far. And if you say his old design is outdated, then they supposed to make it up to date WHILE RETAINING HIS CORE IDENTITY WHICH IS A MACHINE HERALD. Like they can just make his body has a metal plating or wire.
Oh and btw, Viktor didn't evolved by hexcore. He supposed to be evolving HIMSELF through machination and augments, getting evolved by hexcore and warwick juice seems lazy compared to what he was doing.
another ryze/xerath being i guess...not a machine herald but a magic herald
@@bladeknight05good point, i'd agree with, In the new lore he's more like magic/arcane herald
why would I need to get it? Just don't change him at all...
@@loserhimself4044 i mean i write this to the people who says old viktor are outdated or tropey etc... because they wouldn't get it like us.
I started playing lol in 2015. Viktor is one of my mains. I did not care that his w got outdated after you guys gave every champ 10 dashes. He had a cool concept and art. You took away his style and left him with his outdated abilities. In the words of Hercules: "DISAPPOINTED"
Totally agree. I don't care how useless he is. I just love playing him, but not anymore. It's true that I rarely play League, but now I have another reason to quit this game for good. The golden early years of League went to the junkyard.
Lool how they massacared my boy
for a character all about "eVoLuTiOn", it is ironic his kit has not evolved with him XD
I mean, hid kit didn't really need a change
His kit is mostly fine, it honestly just needs faster cast animations and a more reliable way to get to late game. Viktor can carry incredibly well but the odds are stacked against him early on.
@@axe-dhellgamez2368 The problem is riot called this a "VGU" not an "ASU"
Blame the Viktor mains that saw his new kit and rejected it and wanted him to stay the same
Because the Viktor mains who play tested him didn't like the changes... Ironic I know
If this was a separate champ i'd like it but considering it's Victor idk. His walking animation looks like LeBlanc bro... he isn't even a machine guy anymore he's just a mage lol
he's an arcane"they/them" now It seems. Yeah. I agree, really weird.
Ye
@archangelshiro ...?
@@archangelshiro shut up dude, stop being weird and go touch grass like for real, "arcane they/them" literally means nothing
@@somenerdpngit literally means magical genderless being.
BRING BACK THE OLD VIKTOR
nah old is shiet new is evolutionary
He will degrade into a pathetic abomination.
@@βασίληςΠαπακωνσταντίνου-μ8δ Vincent has nothing on Viktor.
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I crave for strength and certainty of steel..."
Thematic miss for me. I want my robo-mage, not celestial-esque mage.
Kinda the same problem iron man had when he went with nano-machines, lost a bunch of his mechanical charm.
That actually hits the nail
Agreed, from Ironman to Nanoman. Kill me
Likewise. I mean, I'm all for techno-magic hybrid, but they leaned a bit too much into the magic side. They also leaned more into "herald" and dropped the "machine" part.
[Personally, I think Viktor in 2x6 would've been a better default: just give him a toggleable mask and it would be ideal.]
Magic through technology was what made him unique. Now he's just magic through magic, same as any other mage, except with less nuance.
The way I identify as a Demacian upon witnessing Viktor turning into a magical boi.
Ironic, how a champion that is all about the glorious evolution, hasn't evolved at all with his "rework". Inglorious evolution.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see your favourite champions get erased
He literally has the same kit and character motivation. Crying about nothing
@@unclefrunkus5538 yeah but he's a femboy now
@@unclefrunkus5538true, people are mad at literally nothing
@@unclefrunkus5538Yet also looks like an entirely different character in every way but kit and name. Even his motivations are hardly the same conaidering this is based on Arcane Viktor, a VERY different person with a very different background and personality to OG Viktor. It's as massive of a change as the Karma and Swain reworks. They're visually completely unrecognizable from their previous iterations.
wish I had chosen the first.
they made the scientist into a jesus
disgusting brainrot
0:43 New desktop wallpaper
Another thing that i didn't see anyone talking about. This version of Viktor is canon for like a day at most. From the moment singed creates him to the moment he and jayce disappear. Even if it is more than a day, it for sure is not even close of all the other characters in the roster
Ikr legit, Christian Linke said in an interview he and Jayce are turned to dust now so legit he had this look for less than a day!!!
In general, the lore of the characters began to feel much shorter than before. Victor did not have time to build, invent or do anything, being in his new appearance, he died. Warwick just appeared in the story, a couple of days passed and he also died. Heimerdinger seemed to exist in this world, but he never invented anything on the screen, never used either turrets or missiles, and eventually died. Ambessa lived, sailed to Piltover, fought for a couple of weeks or a month and also died. I don't even know what to think about this. From the point of view of an individual work, this is even logical, but in general, from the lore of the League of Legends, you expect a longer confrontation that lasts for years or something like that
@@TwinklingMysticShot
I’m pretty sure Christian Linke doesn’t know what he’s taking about despite having worked on the show
not a day tho, it took some time for Piltover to set up their defenses, and for Ambessa to assembly her army. Most of her soldiers weren't in Piltover, they were somewhere close
@@jusussi Riot confirmed that the developments in arcane will not be related to the game world. Although they confirmed that the story of the generals will change, it will be carefully considered
Nothing says city of technology like an arcane mage. 'Can't wait' for for Wolfman Warwick to be updated to Manwick.
Dont give me nightmares of that filth
too iconic to change
I mean on a world of magic and technology, the fusion of both seems like the next logical step
i mean... "warwick" is a real name in real life. there is even an education institution with "Warwick" as the name.
so they gotta need to change that name actually. but obviously not that silly "manwick" XD.
just call him VANDER is enough.
@@mclekfkeiwdisidido6858I mean, yes. If the design or effects ressembled technology in any way. You shouldn't have to watch Arcane to know what's going on with him.
Victors whole thing was that hes not a mage but an artificer that uses magicly infused technology to substitude for magic. He was very similar to Heimderdinger in a way, which fitted well the Theme.
This chracater is not bad on its own but its just not Victor anymore. It could be its own champ would Riot have given him a new kit.
I don't think they will care about that, look what happened to Galio
100% agree.
waahh
Ikr? He's supposed to be a man-turned-into-a-machine instead of being some kind of magic made monstrosity. Imo, this ain't it
"Viktor was different before they changed him, and that fitted well for his theme before they changed him. Now they've changed him, he's different!"
0:43
this scene perfectly shows that the wizard in arcane s1 is viktor,not young ryze
They done twinkified my cyborg
good
yea man...wtf lmao
@@lukek.5773actually not good, cyborgs should be built to last
straight skinny guys exist you know :x
@@loomnatinoscopers are u dumb he is not built he is reborn
skarner ain't a crystal scorpion anymore, viktor ain't a cyborg anymore. what's next? twisted fate won't throw cards?
Shaco won't be clown anymore
He will be a mimic instead
gragas will not be a fat drinking chad anymore....he will be twinkyfied someday and will now drink water
This the worst thing, they just delete the character, create a new one and give the same name
Lmao shaco doesn't exist to riot@StanTVXD
my predictions for the next animated series retcons for VGUs:
Ionia: Master Yi will have 7 eyes and be connected to some sort of magic that looks like Void, but at the same time it isn't Void (looking at you, Vincent). Also wll become a twink that is no longer a fighter, he is now a mage.
Demacia: Garen becomes a mage cuz he uses magic sword from above (the writers don't know that Kayle exists). Also he will be a twink, cuz "representation" >> substance, as Arcane showed us.
Noxus: Darius becomes a mage, cuz he jumps very high, there must be some sort of sorcery at play. Also he must be a twink, cuz there is no way some jacked up dude can jump more than 0.1 meters (writers don't know how physics works)
i seriously hate that he's not a robot engineer guy anymore but more of a mage
Yeah. With his old design it makes so much good contrast with frail chronic Arcane Viktor and stoic broad-shouldered machine herald. You can really see WHY Viktor took the route of transhumanism but this design goes in the entirely wrong direction.
I think that's the best description of his character change since arcane. Bro really went from a mechanical revolutionist to this superpowered twink
I showed this to my girlfriend and she thought this was an alien
You mean the doctor doom cosplay? Oh yeah terrible that they trash it.
Well he is a great hybrid, he is where magic and machine meet
Viktor went from "haha pfiou pfiou Hextech laser strong" to "All should perish for the better good"
What a cool new mage.
But Piltover/Zaun being the science and progress region, it would be cool if we could have a champion that reflects that. Maybe he sees in the mechanical augments commonly adopted by the people of the twin cities a way to for humanity to evolve. Some kind of herald, but of machines.
I have a great idea, what if he builds Blitzcrank? Because in the game, as we all know, Blitzcrank just exists and nothing tells us who build him. I wonder if there was some engineer that build himself a robotic body, and, idk, probably a 3rd arm to help with that, and wanted to make some sort of golem to protect the people of Zaun.
Man, that would be so cool. Oh, another idea, what if that engineer also made prosthetics for the people of Zaun to help them out?
i am laughing and crying at the same time
sobbing u guys
As much as I love all the jokes let's be real for a second: old Viktor would not fit in a post Arcane canon. Machine herald? You replaced a few bodyparts, that's literally just average Zaun experience but with a cool looking mask. As much as I wish they put more robot into it because it's a bit unbalanced rn a human-chem-arcane-robot at least feels like evolution, combining biology, technology and magic to make something new
@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer So, a Zaunite should stand out when put in a group of Zaunites? By this logic, they should change every champion, because they look like someone that would live in the region of their origin. Garen looks like the average Demacian soldier, so I guess he has to get changed as well? Why replace technology from the technological region with magic that is used in every other region?
I get what you mean, but comparing apples with apples has no logic. You have to compare with something different. Every champ is distinct because they have a unique aesthetic when compared with other champs. This updated Viktor does not look like he is from Zaun, he looks like he is a lost relative to Xerath or Ryze.
Arcane was straight fire, but turning our favorite cyborg genius into Generic Mage #72 is a crime beyond redemption.
*Generic Cyborg
@@GabrielRodrigues-kg5xche was literally the only one in the game
@@PeachDragon_Honestly, Camille and Urgot seem to be more Cyborgs than Viktor... unfortunately Viktor was much more of an armored guy, he didn't even show any traces of a Cyborg...
this.
@@Matanza4897 I feel like that is EXACTLY what Viktor needed. A redesign to better fit how cyborg/robotic he has made himself in his lore. Instead, they scrapped old Viktor and made him a mage with a robotic arm for some reason who only connected with the Arcane and didn't dive into the mechanical aspects of Hextech
I liked Viktor a lot in Arcane, but it doesn't work in LoL for me because the abilities are still the same and it comes over as lazy to me. His W is just wack at this point
Yeah his abilities make no sense for his current design AND they're incredibly dated. This vgu was so rushed and lazy.
@@pupperaccinoyou are wrong
nobody cares
The ult in the trailer seems quite busted, covered like half the lane
But yea, i would agree, playing victor at least to me is super boring so its a shame he more or less stays the same then, will still be in my bucket of champs i would never play on my own accord
A Bionicle gets turned into a Barbie.
Thanks for destroying an iconic member of the cast, and narrowing the breadth of character types available in the game! Big win for everyone.
Bring back old Viktor design & lore !
Not the lore please not the lore!!
Bring the old design and lore back
Goodbye Viktor, Hello Vincent.
Disgusting rework. How can they publish this with pride?
@@TwinklingMysticShot they just don't care they're hoping to milk the new people who came from arcane.
Oh they have pride alright
@@brojiro208 I guess riot went woke for this rework.
@@brojiro208 with a side of accomplishment, for only $250.
*It's Evolving but backwards.*
People are forgetting that Viktor accessed this arcane THROUGH machinery and from there evolved to a higher form. For me this is still in keeping with his theme.
This is not Viktor, i know Viktor
This is the cooler Viktor cry about it
@@TheGelieace beta take
@@TheGelieace soy male
@@brainmuncher300
I find this version of Viktor to be cooler tbh.
@@aoto8897 says alot
What Viktor players wanted: Keep his style/lore/vibe, upgrade his outdated kit
What Viktor players got: Change his style/lore/vibe, keep his outdated kit
What they also got: turned into a very skinny twink
literally riot has never reworked a champion in this way even ryze had more changes each time they redid him
na dude, viktor kit is really good and viktor mains love it, its just the w that is a bit cluncky but trust me, they cant change the q e or r its too iconic
@@splinter01100 yeah and a very hard kit to balance
@@splinter01100the E is literally the only one that's iconic
Nah bro why he looks like my lamp post 😭💀
I was thinking toothbrush
I have a idea guys. since viktor is not the machine herald anymore lets make nunu and willump. just willump and he is a forest titan. Lets also rework shivana and make her trasnforms into a Hydra. ALso, another great ideia to rework is tristana, she dosent has to be a yordle, just make her really small, in that way you can put her in any segment of your history. seriosly guys, i loved the new ideia to trow away the core astetic of a chmapion, really nice move
Im glad riot themselves distance this "viktor" further from the real one by removing his association with machines entirely, because another all powerful mage was truly what this game needed more of.
We got so many mages and u guys still wants more the main reason why they made him like this cuz they decided they need to get some cash from this champ too
'Why hast Thou forsaken me, father?' - said Blitz
New plot twist: Blitz was Jesus
Viktor does have a slight nod to Blitz, in that Blitz managed to "evolve" all on his own.
Man why didnt yall just make a new champ for arcane herald, machine herald is a cool concept on its own didnt need to become magic
It was always magic, kind of, hextech was Jayce's invention to mechanize magic and the lore then got confusing, at first Viktor stole it, later he was a coworker, now he's a techno magical twink Jesus, but he was always magical.
@kexaru i mean considering everything in runeterra kinda based on magic i understand but for vik was more so using magic to fuel or improve tech rather than now its just plain old magic. At least thats how it feels/looks to me. I prefer the concept of mechanical ascension compared to magical
@@Kexaru he powered his machines with hextech ye, but they were still machines
Nah, machine herald archetype is saturated enough
@@GustavoOliverXD Wrong. There is only 1 machine herald in this game, but mad mages are abundance.
That ain't Viktor. That's Viktoria.
ok but the fact that Victor got a rework that basicly stripped him of everything that made him unique and "himself", it feels like a wild metanarrative
Weirdly enough, Christian Linke said his old design was "problematic". Idk what he meant by that, but its obvious he doesn't know what he is talking about.
@@grenada9347 old VIktor was literally 4itler, probably....
@@loserhimself4044He literally wasn't. He's someone who has good intentions to help humanities struggles but does things that are a bit controversial to get there, but can still be argued as positive. New Viktor is straight up villain no arguing cam save that
@@loserhimself4044 wtf he never was Hitler, are you mad? Do you actually know who Viktor was before this twinkification?
@@loserhimself4044 where was this stated?
Rest in peace Viktor, you will always be in our gloriously evolved, machine hearts
the glorious ovulation
lmao glad Im not the only one xD
HEEELP
explain
yes❤
Eso ovulona!
Riot released Viktor new look but for the community its the day that Viktor died. I feel bad for the OG viktor players. That champ is dead from the beginning and only few players that still play as him but Riot killed him for real this time. That is not Viktor, that's just some random new midlane mage champion. They call it the glorious evolution nah thats not glorious evolution thats killing one champion and release new champ with same name but different identity!
Just gonna say the original version of Viktor is still alive in Legends of Runeterra. Should go there for your fix of the proper GLORIOUS EVOLUTION.
Something tells me that he won’t remain like this for long either.
@@jusussi LoR doesn't have the budget to remake a champion and all of his followers at once anymore.
We're glad if new champions have voice acting.
@@justascarecrow6988 fair enough... If you think about it, then in general it seems impossible to connect all these Zaun cyborgs from LoR with Victor, they literally don’t match his new lore at all
LoR should be dead by now right? Used to play it a lot before they butchered 90% of the development team
I understand the logic tho, the base game was just that polished that there was barely any need to purchase stuff from the shop unless its shards for missing cards, which you got quite generously just from playing too..
How long before they come after LoR too ?
I don't know what that thing is. And it will never be our Viktor. Gone but never forgotten
"our Victor" and you don't even know how it's written
@furfekkia93 alright dude, yours and only yours viktor. My bad
"Our Victor" lol you didn't even spell his name right, not really sure about that.
@@Valentine-kx7fk my bad
@@yousefhijjawy8306you are cool man don't listen to thr nitpickers
1 unique thing victor had is that he was basically a scientist who rejected human flesh and chose metal, now they turn him into ryze 2.0
A scientist rejecting their humanity is a unique thing lol?
@@Aarsal_SoulBlazerz in the Runeterra? Yes!
That is super basic. The new thing is way more unique. Giving up flesh for mashine is suuuuper common trope
@@egbert5871 the new mage design isnt any less common of a trope
@@egbert5871 Yeah getting turned into an androgynous looking creature is just soooo unique!
Remember guys, that magic is basicly just a word for science the humanity didn't get behind yet.
from gigachad body to bundle of sticks
good, we have more than enough generic muscular characters. Muscles make no sense in the concept of Viktor.
@@wallflower1999 no gfy
@@wallflower1999Why not? He's improving his human body. That's the draw: metal improving muscle.
@@wallflower1999Where does being massive and strong conflict with Victor's character? All his life he was a weak, infirm disabled person and all this time he wanted to fix it, to help people like himself. Does turning himself into a Robo Jock really contradict that in your eyes? Are you blind? Bruh
@@wallflower1999 It's not like he hate his frail body and craves the strength of steel or anything. Surely he wouldn't intentionally make his body robust if he built it himself. Here's a reminder: Arcane Viktor is not Viktor the human, it's the mind of Arcane controlling a puppet body and modified it without his consent, so all your arguments about Viktor's personality goes out of the window.
Riot Games: It is time to go
Blitzcrank: was I a good champ?
Riot Games: NO
The thing that done to this champion is a literal crime
Go look in a dictionary of literal and for crime lmao
@ converting peoples body into something like slender stick is an actual warcrime dude wtf are u talking about
Inferior construct!
We will miss you, Machine Herald. We are sorry to every other champ that will suffer the same fate, because of our failure.
bro isn’t even the machine herald anymore
Boy, this Malzahar VGU looks like fire!
In the words of our machine herald, this is truly an inferior construct
Oh wow people are actually complaining about this for whatever reason.
Ah yes, the machine herold turned into a 0815 mage. And then they didn't even change his abilities. Who will suddenly start playing Viktor now? Feels a lot more like an ASU than a VGU. Also rito, if you guys are determined on staying with this version of the character please fix his cape. It looks so stiff.. I thought Asol and Zoe hair taught you how to do those physics
Yeah exactly. This is just a visual update via his ultimate now grows bigger every time he get kill but it cost another stack so imo its nerf too.
@grechdevils7628 You're a joke if you think it's a nerf. Those small stacks are definitely worth it for an ulti that can potentially last a LOT longer AND grows in size. It's just an overall better ulti.
@@We_see_allwhile it's an overall positive change, Viktor is not in a state where he needs the only buff he gets to have a downside.
We all know Arcane tourists are not going to play the game lol.
worst part is that viktors cape is the same as evelyns
From a genius of machines and Herald of transhumanism.
To corrupted mech mage.
I will remember him as he were.
Skarner is Laughing at Viktor mains rn
More like crying cuz i wish skarner got a TRAILER like this, but riot couldnt even done this. Is it bcuz he's not a human?
@@x-nimator9997 it's arcane bias
I feel bad for Skarner too. If riot dares to ruin another champion
@@x-nimator9997you have highlighted an important point. Skarner didn't get a proper trailer because he isn't a human. Down with this SPECIESISM !!! Down with ZOOPHOBIA !!
@@TwinklingMysticShot tbh skarners old theme was weak like there was no way he could stop piltover from steraling hex crystals from shurima all alone
Honestly, I don’t really have a problem with his design. I have a problem with the walking animation.
At least make him float like Aurelian Sol. It’s an indicator of “beyond humanity” kind of vibes.
My problem is: Riot was too afraid of the reaction from changing him enough to match his new Arcane lore (abilities all the sabe), but still changed him enough to not feel like the machine viktor we had… trying to please everyone often leads to displeasing both sides…
everybody will complain for 3 months and then move on who gives af its a game bro
They can’t satisfied everyone but they should satisfied the majority. Like the guys above said. Everyone will stop carrying and Viktor will fall back to his hole but now with less player since Viktor mains hate the designs and casual won’t pick him up since his kit is literally the same
Yeah, I was confused when he still had his lame old abilities lol
@@Ryuu_Akito the only people crying are the Viktor otps.. so about people forgetting later on? Yeah, idk about that. Asol players still complain about his new design to this day. Only the non asol OTPs actually enjoy new asol
@@80AM.Everyone would move on in 3 months if you died. Moving on is life. That doesn't mean people can't be upset with what happened. Games can be something you love.
I don't know how anyone can say that this is better or worse than the previous Viktor, this new "Viktor" has literally nothing to do with the previous one, they could have created a new character and no one would have said anything. His style is totally different, his reasons, his way of acting etc. from being the herald of the machine to being a guy who for some reason becomes something like a god tied to magic because the writing requires epicness, such a shame.
And now suddenly my optimism for shyvana's rework/ASU has turned into..concern.
bro still thinks she's getting reworked lmao they fired the guy in charge of it, that shi got delayed to past 2025 already
@@WaterBottleMan544 Part of the layoffs?
Please dislike the video , we don't want this rework , they need to change it , arcane has it own art style , lol vic shouldn't be the same as in the animated series.
For the people justifying the change by saying Viktor's old redesign wasn't popular, it's literally never been because of how he looks or the lore. Hes kept so weak due to proplay hes just unfun to play. I've never met anyone who thought viktors concept was lame, but his animations were definitely outdated. Shouldve given him a simple visual update, like lee sin, teemo, caitlyn. Not a complete lore overhaul but keep so same kit that cant ever be buffed without being OP.
They changed him in the game because League's lore changed. His character now plays different role in the world's story. Thats why they have to change. And i expect they will change a lot of things down the line. WIth new shows and books.
I agree and sadly riot doesn't care. I mained Viktor mid back then and had a blast. I'm really sad to see he's no longer the Machine Herald just another mage in the new lore. So much retconning, i loved skarner too and man they took way too long to rework/update him.
No, he really needed a lore update a lot
The writers couldn't decide wheter they wanted him to be evil crazy villain or sympathetic Villain that was only left down by society
Like the part of his story with the divers in which he insisted in mind controlling them. And Wouldn't it be easier and more logical to just make robots from scratch? Lmao
@@jlhn and there was no way to keep his old image in tact? I think there would be alot of ways to do this without removing his character completely.
@@jlhn There is no such thing as a fully evil in League unless it is fully stated like the void. They wrote it as gray as it can get only their desire, purpose and ambition along with choices they made clash with other champs thats why they are deemed villain/hero it's all about third person's perception to define that champion is.
This is awesome in a bubble... but it still doesn't feel like the viktor we all loved. More magic than machine when previously it was the other way around
Seeing all the comments is very sad. Most of us don't want this rework.
for a VGU, i’m not seeing much gameplay changing
The fact they completely shat on the already established LoL Lore with S2 of Arcane, for this is embarrassing
made it better imo...only bad thing is viktor being skinny now :))
@@NickMineboom Viktor is just a whole different identity now. Also, 3rd arm really doesnt make sense on the new viktor. Why would he need some gimmicky 3rd arm he doesnt even need when he's all about evoltion to a higher being stuff
Arcane S2 was fire.
This, is not.
@@Anonymous-td9fl yeah it doesn't make sense at all, would love to see a director's cut with the origonal lore
A moment of silence for old Viktor.... he was the best ❤
I wanted Renata Glasc in Arcane, now I’m glad she didn’t make it.
I’m sorry for your loss, Viktor mains.
They done gone made our cyborg Darth Vader into twink mage number 28...
It's not our Viktor, completely different vibe.
the machine herald has died RIP Mr cyborg
Ah yes, i love when they change my glorious, mechanical genius that wants to fix humanity with technology into another twink mage. Such dissapointment
why scrap the cyborg concept
From a badass cyborg genius to a zesty ... what even is that ?
Nobody's talking about how Viktors new lore is basically Karthus lore
Twinkified Machine Karthus
Only in a very broad sense.
And if we look at it this roughly, then Malzahar's lore has basically the same as well.
Vayne then also has the same lore as Lucian. Ez is the same as Teemo. Nilah the same as Wukong, Rengar and Kha. Malphite the same as Skarner. Aatrox the same as Olaf. Fiddle, Evelynn and Tahm are the same. Karma is the same as Lissandra. Irelia the same as Sejuani. Leona the same as Diana and Taric.
Do I need to go on?
@@lubue5795 Yes. Go on.
Or malzahar
Or Xolaani
From what I am looking at
Some like this,
some dont like this because it's not what attracted them to Viktor and they think they butchered his role in the lore, downgraded his archetype, gameplay, animation etc
And some dont like it cuz of homophobia.
they took the machine out the machine herald
The Machine Twink now I guess
@@xixviii7703 theres no machine though so hes just a twink really
Exactly
Glamorous adaptation now i guess
YES, exactly
Came back just to say that description is a spit on the face of Viktor mains. Trash, you don’t fix what’s not broken. You want to make him stronger? Add a root to his evolved W, it suits his theme too, or suited, I don’t even know what he is anymore.
Arcane is a great series, but old Lol Viktor "was" so iconic, "was" so cool. This viktor is entirely different. From a mad scientist fighting for progress to a crazy hippie helping people with biomechanical magic. I prefer the old one, and i was expecting viktor to turn in the second season close to what we had ingame. Dissapointing for a viktor main.
was he cool though?? was he?? old viktor was never popular, iconic sure- but so was old taric and old teemo, old ryze, old sion- the list goes on
champs change, they get reworked its what happens in league over time as the game changes with them
@@Ω3103ζ he was dr doom for league
@@Ω3103ζone thing to improve a champion and another to change it for a different one.
totally agree my dude, went on a rant recently on bluesky exactly about this, viktor main since 2015, sad times
@@Ω3103ζ I feel like he was popular and cool. Just not meta for the last year, so we didn't see him a lot.
Im a fan of the change honestly. Coolest part of old Viktor's design was the mask, staff, and claw, all of which are cooler and more unique now. Everyone keeps acting like they removed his "turn people into machines as humanity's final evolution" lore, but they literally didn't. Viktor in the show still tries to convert people into hextech machines; people think its different only because they assume machines have to look like they're made of metal plating and pipes.
YURRRRR SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE CALLING OUT HIS DEVOLUTION INTO JUST ANOTHER BORING MAGE, RISE UP GANG🗣️