What to do after a TPK in D&D ? (Total Party Kill)
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you "accidentally" murder your entire party, what do you do:
-make their character deaths useful in the end
-narrate how their deaths caused the setting to be doomed, creating a post bbeg gets what he wants scenario for the next player characters
-make fun of them by putting on mr crabs with his tiny violin.
I would definitely go with the last one.
can't go wrong with that last one
Can I choose have a necromancer raise them and have their past selves show up in the new characters go through? That way they get to loot their corpses for their fave weapons after a tricky fight where they get their old strata used against them
@@9cool10 if its early to mid level that is a really
make an entire arc of them trying to bring themselves back to life with the help of a deity that feels pity for them
What if it was intentional
I’d use their deaths and move the whole party to the afterlife or another realm, or have the Harold of a god speak to them and give them a mission that fits with the story. What I did in my previous game was once they were all dead, I had someone arrive and magically restore their lives. They didn’t know this but that person was someone they thought was an enemy for the entire game. In various spots after that, the group encountered a cat which helped them in their tasks. The cat was actually this person using a polymorph spell on himself.
When that was revealed in the penultimate session as they watched that character dying at the hands of the BBEG, the look on their faces….I won’t forget it. They were SUPER motivated to take out the BBEG now
Don't you dare edit this. I made it a habit to name everything i can get away with Harold. "The Harold of gods" is now canon and the most powerful harold of all. Also my giant 3 meter teddy is called harold too!
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@@krunkmonkey3792 I was just being annoying, but I thought it was the opposite, as in being simple.
@@barrymanning4861 oh okay sorry I scroll the internet alot and have seen a lot of people do that not knowing what based means have a good day!
I remember quite badly a way to revive them, basically going into a Realm of the Dead adventure to fight for their lives, so Death know they should revive or remain dead
Yeah
I’ve been coming up with ways to keep my group alive incase I accidentally kill them when I didn’t mean or try to.
I’ve just replaced death saving rolls with 'you get 3 chances', and that they refuse to die, which gives them a rush of energy to defeat the current opponent. It does make them more dazed and weaker the more this happens, and is good for the campaign I’m trying to do. (Strixhaven based)
Oh crap I didn't scroll down far enough I do a similar idea but with a minor consequence, no matter how long they spend in the warriors afterlife, when they come back if they choose to do so, it sends them to a month after their death, or in the case of one player who was just so badass he cleaned straight through, 1 week prior to death. But I only do it early campaign. Especially if the tpk was a flaw on my part. But if it's a late campaign tpk either they ignored warning signs or got really confident they could do something I knew they probably couldn't.
I was gonna suggest this ye
Just have everyone write junior on their characters sheets and go from there
That's great
My 2 year old aarakocra would like to have a word with you.
A classic move
@@matttaylor1996 *Age is just a number* 💀
@@MogulMogul *The Jail sentence is just a Number*
"How did the party die?"
"Well the bard..."
"Say no more "
Had a TPK to a cleric enemy last week. Had him raise them from the dead to "correct their thinking."
This week we have the great escape.
So how'd it go?
@@Squidly3005 Quite Well after the Bard managed to get what he needed to cast Major Image. Turns out if you demand total slavish obedience from your cultists they are very susceptible to you being impersonated.
There’s also the option depending on what killed them (like yeenoghu) that they end up in the hunting grounds or if not, TIME FOR THE NINE HELLS!
I've done the yeenoghu before. My players were losing their minds after losing most of their gear and having to find it since yeenoghu scattered it across his lair.
I'd vaguely mention another party that is on par with them every now and then as a contingency plan beforehand.
If the original party gets wiped out, you let your players play as the rival party. As the cherry on top, they can be tasked to investigate the sudden death of the old party.
The adventure never ends!
That’s railroading
@@TitleDotJpeg no it's not. Up to that point, the other party has only been mentioned. The players make new characters that they then slot into the role of those party members. It's not railroading at all.
@@yharleththegrandobserver236 he has set up the entire story and motives already
@@TitleDotJpeg uh... no he hasn't.
They're now a totally different party of adventurers who can, if they wish, investigate the disappearance of their now-rivals. Please, explain to me what is railroaded about this?
@@yharleththegrandobserver236 just reread the comment
"Sad to hear that our party of 5 level 20s were brutally murdered by Beholdamot..."
oho
I didn’t realize he meant D&D until he mentioned rolling I thought he was about to tell us how to hide the bodies
I would either have the party have an afterlife adventure where they're trying to return to the land of the living. Or have the players roll new characters who are investigating, or avenging, the deaths of their former characters
I kinda like the idea that its another, probably more skilled group of adventurers who "happen" to meet in the same town that the others frequented, and basically the town/tavern/whatever is holding a ceremony for them, and thats the starting point for the next "group" (obv same ppl diff characters)
In my campaign that I made, in the event of the first TPK the gods intervene. They clearly state their disappointment in the player characters and announce that "next time your death is permanent, we can always find others to save this world."
"It seems you accidentally murdered your entire group."
Oh, thank God! Finally someone with advice for me.
"Maybe it was bad rolls..."
Oh, you meant... Never mind.
Me: "so... who wants to escape from hell?"
I normally make it like Peters death in Spider-Verse, there’s a huge ceremony commemorating these heroes, and the ~4 civilians take it to heart.
Enter new party.
Or or, have the old party fight out of hell. Either works.
I have a plan if that happened, I called it “Flashback to the future”
If the party dies they’ll roll new characters but will brought back to the start of the campaign
There will be missing characters and when they will try to forcefully destroy the campaign their actual first characters will find themself in the laboratory of a secret organization
The Sentence _„Let's have a great TPK!“_ is something that I definetly plan to include in the future after my new character meets the others...
Dude has been going to the gym 💪💪💪
haha a bit
Bard who tried to seduce a dragon and brought down his entire party. “Where’s my eulogy?”
my entire party died the other day fighting a flying broom... the broom rolled a lot of crits
I'll sell my soul to the devil and become an evil lich to my friends.
The Necromancer: “I can bring you back but you’ll hate it.”
The fallen shall be forever remembered as the emperors finest.
For Sangiunius! For the emperor! Crush your enemies under the imperium of man!
Or you can just say "Welcome to Hell"
alternately: you could always do an afterlife story, where the characters need to escape the underworld or something to be revived.
or you could have them wake up, their wounds bandaged and they're chained up in a villains dungeon somewhere so you can do a prison break story.
And the rogue wakes up in a jar in the basement of a scorned lover. Rogue 2 Clone Boogaloo.
Depending on setting it can the end or it can be the start of purgatory and afterlife shenanigans. One party caused so much ruckus to the poor secretaries that they were resurrected just to limit their chaos to the material plane.
I'd just blame them for making bad characters to shame one of them to be the DM next campaign!
Neutral evil DM
Then you can finally be a player!
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You when your party TPK’s
Made me so happy to hear the RuneScape music in the background, props to you brother
This is really good. A small, but satisfying detail.
I just made my players fight their way out of hell
The campaign ends when I say it ends. If the entire party dies in the same encounter, have an entity make them an offer they can’t refuse.
They get to come back to life (full resurrection, as revenants, sky’s the limit) and now they’re supernaturally beholden to whatever just bought their souls. Devils, demons, arch Fey, a particularly invested Death god, your choice.
the bbeg: "this is it? these are the people you chose? unbelievable"
*revives the whole party*
The RuneScape music I'm gonna die from nostalgia
A cool thing one of my DMs had planned for a TPK in Theros setting was for us to go to the realm of the dead and find a way to come back
Not all of us returned, but it made for a few REALLY cool sessions on the underworld
Make them keep their characters and create a "escape from hell" one shot, you could theme it as a heist where a bunch of souls before hand have been planning to steal back their life force from the devil lord in charge and making a run for it
If they fail and they can try again, if they succeed they come back to life and can continue the main quest, however if they die a second time they'll realize the devil lord got in trouble for letting souls escape and has reinforced the place making the heist harder
This would be pretty useful in D&D too.
Me and my group got bad rolls and died after we exploded a tavern (story for another day) and the DM revived us by making an angle come down and tell us that the gods thought we were to funny to let die because of our antics.
That RuneScape theme bringing back memories
Have them all wake up in some kind of cell, and have the new characters' first quest is to rescue their old ones... only to have them arrive too late.
My party traveled with a DMPC for a while, their characters died one after the other, but what they did is not forgotten.
Those damn dragons tpk-ing again
The new characters attending city funeral for the hero's killed trying to help is always a good transition.
Npcs who knew them caring and telling of them can really make the sting of wiping easier and a new character feel connected to the prior story.
I am relieved i'm not the only one who thought of Underworld Adventure
I’m generally against killing my player’s characters without cause, so if I feel like the encounter is going wrong, I try to compensate *before* things go wrong, and keep sneaky healers close by. If this *were* to happen, I’d have them all wake up in a cell after being revivified and captured by some villain, and they’d have to escape, make it seem planned and part of the plot.
That is because my games are about having fun with friends, not actions and consequences. I know my play style isn’t for everyone, but giving my players some reassurance that they’re in control of if their character lives or dies gives them a lot of creative freedom, and leads to them making fun choices they may not have if the fear of death lingered over them.
Same with my group, we’re real time writing a fun story, and fun stories generally don’t have the heroes die in the middle of it so killing PCs is kind of taboo outside of noble sacrifice, “I want to play a new character”, etc scenarios
Resurrect the party, but now they're undead trying to escape the will of their master.
My party just got TPK today in a curse of strahd campaign
You look in the garbage behind and you find the corpses of your previous characters rotting
You all wake up in a cold sweat, and decide to maybe just fight the ogre tomorrow.
“Oh, we died….so you guys want cake?”
I would have a god give them a mission to do in one of the levels of hell to earn their life back.
My DM just made it so we were all trapped in a perpetual cycle of death and rebirth every time we all died
Itachy: sorry bad habits
I thought you were going to say "Revivify go brrr" but I like this answer better
I also ran across a concept to have them travel through the afterlife on the whims of a god who can later bring them back.
Tombstone: here lies person he will be remembered for stealing the artifact last words: "it's not cursed"
"Huh, TPK.... Well, you all wake up in one of the nine Hells, no you don't know which one it is, no I am not going to tell you, yes you have your arms and equipment. Now escape."
Or you could just say "and your vision goes blank and two words appear in your vision: you died." And then they all respawn.
In the first dnd campaign I was ever in we got a tpk and the dm did this thing where he put us in a purgatory or limbo state all of us separated and we separately had to find a way to escape, it was fun.
It's just time for a trip to the 9 hells and continue
This one reminded me of a campaign I read of, which was set in a world where the BBEG had won and took over the known world (or at least one continent), and the characters started out as minions. So they were, like, a tiefling housemaid who became a rogue, an undead former paladin seeking redemption, and so on.
A random stranger notices the dead party members and feeds them all a revive mint, and they all continue where they left off...
About a week behind their schedule
In a friend group when we played, the dm made a form of underworld where you have to roll and 15 or higher using a d20 twice in a row to save the character, and if you don’t the character that survives if they survive will gain a “ptsd” stat, where they would lose a turn if they get attacked with the weapon/item that killed the fallen character
Do an adventure of their escape from the afterlife!
My favorite is purposely killing a party for a sweet underworld redemption arc
This actually happened my first campaign went on for about 2 years before some player drama happened so we stop that and started another one with different characters but still in that story and later down the line we found statues in a rebellion city of our original characters and after doing some things for people in that city one of the statues came to life and a very adored npc from the first campaign came back and help with the rest of the story
So its the gate way to introduce a karma system that the dm has secretly been keeping track of
Necromancer in party - finally
Bro seriously just explained the first episode of goblin slayer 💀💀
How I fix that, is I quite literally have a time god at my disposal
Imposter: ah yes i didnt killed the whole crew balck did it
What I did was make a side story quest where they have to travel through the realm of death, and if the successful navage all the trials they come back from the dead.
*The music entering my ears*
WHY DOES IT REMIND ME OF DYING TO GOBLINS AT LEVEL 3!!!!!
Funny thing in one setting my DM killed our characters about an hour in with a super high level dragon like 100x stronger then our party then said to make new characters and were 200 years in the future and our characters (originals) became heroic legends and inspired our new chara
My first time DMing, 3 players, Dragon of Icespire Peak very first combat. TPK to 2 Ochre Jellies. I just had no idea what to do and decided to just allow my players to start over from right before they walked into the encounter
I like the idea of a ruling faction that was aligned with the players sending out a rescue party of high level adventurers to potentially rescue them, or retrieve proof of death. That way there is a canonical reason for this new group to be interested in the old group, they get another chance at the dungeon, and it opens storytelling stuff like post-partem possession.
I've always liked the idea of giving the fallen party the character sheets of npcs under the BBEG's banner and letting them just go ham as villains now that the group standing in the BBEG's way is dead and gone.
Or you can have a necromancer raise them and expects a favor in return
Oh shit this is a dnd video, no wonder the officers were so confused.
Time for a 9 Hells campaign.
2 imps killed 2 level 3s, I (the DM) was like ummm and then you wake up suddenly
Maybe you could have all of your character spirits wake up in the afterlife and have them have to find their way back to the living world
Raise the dead party and they continue as undead if you happen to be the necromancer
For the Tomb of Anihalation, the plan is that if the current party dies, their previous characters are showing up at the entrance via Dragon. Said previous characters are lv. 20
One of my fav ways i recovered from a TPK was I had the players fight their way out of the afterlife (Doom style) and they had to find their bodies to be revived. We did this since the party was really invested in their characters and they didn't want to make new characters just yet
One UA-camr had a very creative quest for this, where they all wake up and to get their full gear back and memories and stuff you go through and fight everyone you've ever killed to help them move on. Nice change of pace tbh
A nice way is, when they come to the enemy that killed them tell them of a weak point that was created in the end of the last battle. just like in the hobbit nobody knew one scale was lose, but in the second battle they see it and now see a new important reason for the first battle and their old charakters have an impact in the new story.
Nope my dm just forgot to give us 4 levels. We were level 8 fighting encounters that were meant for level 12s.
*becomes a necromancer*
Had this happen to me in the first game I ever DM'd, half planned but more like a possible outcome of their interactions. When the ranger interrupted the first main BBEG's monologue with an arrow to the chest knowing full well that he had supiorer numbers and skilled archers of his own trained on the party he got turned into a pin cushion of arrows. The rest of the party went from being confident and a bit cocky to panicked and desperate. They tried to run, bargin and even hide but they were shot down one after another. And then I quickly narrated them finding themselves awakening in a glade of the forest they were in, having been resurrected by the spirit of the forest, a high level Druid turned budding archfey who tasked them with clearing out a blight infestation and then returning to get rid of the bandits lead by the BBEG and get their revenge on them. The party seemed to love this, having the tables turned on them from what had seemed like a very normal introductory dnd session one taking a twist and gave them incentive to go after the BBEG beyond just clear out these bandits that are harnessing the nearby town.
I would create a new side campaign where they have to fight through the afterlife until they can get back to there body's, returning to life
I have an idea for a campaign that is based on airships and the players are the crew. They make their characters and that is the original crew and all members equally own the salvage operation. If there is a TPK… we’ll one of the other crews the players made comes to investigate their bosses disappearance and continue the story
"you all jolt awake in the cavern, your bodies are sore and covered in bruises. Looking around, make an investigation check. The bones, blast marks, and tracks let you know that there seems to have been an extremely dangerous battle in this cavern... But it seems to have happened years ago"
New campaign to escape hell babeeey
Classic runescape opening theme
I was thinking they get sent to the astral plane to revive themselves.
I killed my entire team by highjacking a magical door randomly, it exploded...
You can also have the characters end up being injured and captured by the badguys then you can make a prison break arc.
i had a party in a campaign i run not die, but drift away from the game and it stopped being played. however, i later started the same plot/story with a different group (some overlap), and found it interesting to pick up where they left. instead of restarting the story, they each got a call from someone in the faction they chose who wouldve had contact with the old party, who told them to go investigate the old party’s disappearance. then, when they got to where they wouldve been, they werent there. first adventure: what happened to the old party. eventually, they tracked down all the clues. they were selectively assassinated by a very mysterious ancient god’s followers. second adventure: dealing with the followers. picking up where you left off, especially integrating the death into the story and showing its impacts works great for adding more lore and fun to campaigns!
"How do you fix that"
On their way to the afterlife, Have them meet a powerful entity who will offer them their lives back if they can kill 100 of a predetermined monster. They will basically be warlocks until they kill the monsters, and when that happens, turn them back into their normal classes.
100 tiamats sounds fun
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