2200VA UPS APC to Solar Inverter
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Today I bought an old 2200C APC UPS. It costs $ 100. I will convert it into a solar inverter. In this video, I will clean it, Add a battery connection, reduce the no-load current and test its capacity. In the next video, I will add a large capacity MPPT charger, Automatic switches and protective devices.
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Today I bought an old 2200C APC UPS. It costs $ 100. I will convert it into a solar inverter. In this video, I will clean it, Add a battery connection, reduce the no-load current and test its capacity. In the next video, I will add a large capacity MPPT charger, Automatic switches and protective devices.
How you claim, it works as solar inverter. On other way you connect the batteries on load test.....
Connect the solar to it and then load test....variable solar voltage and current not support apc ups then it shutdown immediately.
@@kashifhussain4246 That's what a solar charge controller is for. He will add an MPPT one.
He will also add some caps I would think
Why do you calculate the no load output with 48v? Is the UPS 48v or 24v?
When you added that filter coil to reduce the no-load current, how did you calculated the number of turns, wire section, type of core, etc?
Is there any math behind it or in this case was an arbitrary choice?
Thank you.
Thank You for that excellent video!!! I did a Cyber Power 1900 a few months ago, not nearly as neat as your example here. That was great how you figured out how to reduce the idling current of your inverter! And wound your own inductor!! My UPS draws 55 watts at idle, and I always felt that was a bit high. I may try to duplicate your idle current fix on it. I run my ups output into a 6 circuit generator transfer switch. It is great to have when the power goes out .All I see is the 20 Milli second light flicker when power goes out. Its easy to miss that! It takes care of power outage with no intervention on my part. I did not know I have a brother somewhere. Thanks for posting your video!!!!
Great job. Love reusable old technology. 👍
Awesome, thanks a lot! I'm gonna try this on my own APC 2200 too.
Cool bro! Wish I understood how that inductor works to lessen the load... It has no losses while load applies, or affects waveform in some way? I'm not sure why some people are hating this video because you didn't build it yourself. At least you bought it used, and refurbished it. If they are so smart they should make their own videos. You're the one with all the views and subs. Good job !
I'm just an amateur, I've seen Chinese inverter (use EGS002 modules) use an inductor at the transformer primary. and the no-load current drops. So I tried it. Thankfully it worked fine, The waveform did not change, it is still true sine. Conversion performance increases.
@@PhdHung The inductor serves to filter out the modulation frequency (in the khz range) that the transformer core reacts to by converting most of it's energy to heat due to the hysteresis effect of iron which can't handle such high frequencies, resulting in early core saturation and an increase in the magnetizing energy. A well made transformer that has been specifically designed for the inverter will have enough leakage inductance to filter out the modulation frequency (on the expence of size and cost) eliminating the need for a separate input inductor.
@@udisami9856 I appreciate the explanation!
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I have had an APC SUA2200 running for 6+ month on a 80 kWh diy powerwall with no shutdown. Works fine. I have idle losses lige yours. The filter interests me, but I have gotten hold of a toroidal 3000VA transformer from another brand of 3000 VA/48 volt UPS that has blown electronics. I also got hands on a APC SUA3000 and I think I will swap trasformers.
It seems than 90+% of the losses at idle is from the transformers which get pretty hot. The MosFets never get really hot.
You have a new subscriber :)
Yes, I think if you replace toroidal transformer, the efficiency will be higher. I also replaced mosfet irf4710 with irfp4110. it is much stronger.
Pa ada kh jual aisi inventr apc K411
By the way I like your vidio...and i hope after this project you will soon continue part 2 cos, I will learn how to make my Ups 3kva ( used ) for solar system with Mppt modul....thanks lots
Yes, I am designing a desk for the inverter and battery.
Mám otázku, testoval jsem 3 ups a po zapnutí na baterie bez synchronizace ze sítě všechny pracují na 60hz. Potřebuji 50hz. Jak je možné že Vaše ups pracuje okamžitě na 50hz?, je nějak upravená? Moc děkuji.
What happens if there is a short across those 2 completely exposed terminals that you put on the back of the UPS? I am thinking that those skinny wires on the batteries will light up.
Do you think 12 mosfets are enough for 1500 watts continuously load?
Good work to reuse old ups. One question in mind. How did you stopped ups charging mechanism? Or you just have kept disconnected grid input for ever?
The UPS uses its main transformer to charge the batteries so you cant really "disable" the charging circuit. The way I did it is to just connect a diode between the battery and the UPS. But dont use a regular diode! With a regular diode you have to much voltage drop and therefore power loss. Use some high quality, low RDSon MOSFET, something like multiple IPP023NE7N3GXKSA1 and the LM5050 IC to build an ideal diode. With such an ideal diode you should be able to achieve about 10W of loss max at maximum load.
Awesome conversation sir,,,
Question number 1 where you connected solar panels? 2nd main grid should be taken out from APC 3rd how you are going to charge batteries? We need mpt solar charge controller 24V ?
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I wish I could see the general outline of the circuitry. I did not understand where you connected the inductor and other few details.
Hi, awesome video here. I just got this exact APC 2200 UPS. I don't have Solar panels/charger. Can the UPS handle charging those external batteries from mains/grid supply?
Thanks
Yes sure. It can charge with 8A current from the mains
Hi Awesome tech!, Today I found two SUA5000RMT5U apc 4000watt ups backups. I wonder if I could use these in a solar system and connect one on each leg of a 240 volt household breaker box somehow... will watch your videos with interest!
Any progress? I have bought the exact same UPS
i am a fan i like your work
Thaks bro
Hi, can you please provide more specs on the inductance you winded? how many winds you did? Maybe you could tell which specs are needed so I could buy one already assembled?
Wow 😍 looks awesome Dude!
:D thanks
good work, i am waiting for the next part
Great video Homemade! I have already setup a 600watts solar panels 96V DC with EPEVER MPPT charge controller connected to the same UPS but it shutdown after runtime process ends even if the batteries are fully charged. Can you or any fellow youtubers help me how I can use Hyper Terminal to change the settings of the UPS? What's the command to do this? Thanks in advance!
u use SUA2200i ?
@@PhdHung Mine is IBM
UPS 1500THV 1500VA
Super
great work.
Is it possible to supply Solar panels DC volts instead of using batteries.
If yes how many solar panels will be enouh to supply 2200VA
Awesome work 👍👏
A year or so ago I tried several different chokes it helped very little to none
I concluded that the losses was in the Square Transformers
I plan on building a toroid for it but I didnt know or check the voltage of the other wires if I remember correctly it has 4 or five instead of two
Do they need the other wires
The wire tapping will be like 0,170,220,240 and small two wire loop around 25v for charging.
How you remove the UPS time limiter..every UPS natively has set amount of time to stop automatically..how you bypass this one..by modified the circuit or by software?
very good project
Mr ? Are you sure that is the UPS you are using for those elements you are connecting to? why are you not showing all the cables in your video? i have made so many inverters using UPS transformers and plastics and materials used in the transformer they all melt after a period of time.So i will be satisfied if you can all you cables. Thank you
Great. I like video. thanks you
Very nice and interesting video bro. I have 2 of those APC 2200 UPS already; though old ones and wants to use them for inverters too. My worries are on how to charge the batteries?
Can you help me with a stage by stage explanations of all you just did on your video?
you just converted it from no battery pack model to battery pack model:)
I have 3000VA APC UPS and want make solar inverter too. But it cant do first start wirhout mains (if it is solar inverter there are no mains at all). If I connect mains it starts, then disconnect mains UPS keep working on battery. Which element checks mains existance condition? I should remove this element. Can you help me?
Nice Good Job
Cái 5000W inverter mà bạn sửa trong video khác nó mạnh hơn sao bạn ko lấy chế mà lấy máy ups này ?Dòng điện sin nó ko chuẩn bằng ups này hay lý do sao, 2 cái nó khác nhau gì vậy v.v.v
Cai nào nhỉ?.
Can you explain if the toroids used are of MnZn composition? ( pc40 toroids ) Thanks
How much is the charging amp ? I mean speed
pls make a micro grid tie solar inverter with your style.
Yes
So you can power the inverter with one 24V battery?
Hı , my online ups 1000va and does not have transformer( only board component ) how can i reduce no-load current ? Thanks
Nice brother
Software in APC UPS units actually shut them off after a certain amount of time. They will NOT run continuously regardless of the input voltage.
I have tested it. It works until the battery is weak (42V).
If you want to set up UPS, use Hyper Terminal
Where can I find instructions to set up UPS using Hyper Terminal and what parameters to use to disable the runtime process? I am using a APC UPS1500THV and followed your instructions but after the runtime, the UPS shuts down even the batteries are fully charged.
@@PhdHung I have setup the Hyper Terminal and can access the UPS. What do I need to change so that it will shutdown only when the voltage go to 42V like you did? Can you tell me which command to by-pass the run time? Thanks.
Acá en mi país esa UPS 2200C APC nuevo cuesta $648.90 + impuesto demasiado caro pero tu lo compraste viejo y usado a $1.00 eso se le llamo la suerte de un perro callejero (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ literalmente hablando ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜).
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Bisa tolong di jelaskan
Kenapa memakai kabel serabut saat konek kabel ke sisi tafo primernya.
Memang hasilnya mantap krna amper stanbaynya langsung turun .
0.8 Amper dari 1.3 Amper.
cool, I have the same apc and I'm going to use it instead of an inverter, what was the maximum time of direct use with 48v power? stress test
It can work 24/7
the ups has 2 transformers, I can't understand which primary one connected the toroidal inductor to? Could you share a diagram of that connection? Everything else is clear, thanks for answering me and congratulatios on a job well done.
Pretty sure the transformers primaries are connected in series so it doesn't matter where you put the inductor, as long as its in the primary winding path
@@josephsvensson6637 Well , thank you very much for your reply.
@@josephsvensson6637 Could you tell me if the PC 40 toroids are the 30x20 T60 ferrite? there are many sizes. The user of the video explains briefly. Thank´s a lot !
@@davidcromapix9083 I can't tell by looking at them no, it would probably be best to experiment with some different ones if you have them, they don't have to be exactly the same to get the same result
@@josephsvensson6637 I am going to test different sizes of toroids and share the results here. Thanks
Does it run 1.5hp acu? And how long it'll last?
What is the model of the power meter and where can I buy it from?
But you didn't connect any solar panels to it just external batteries. So why solar inverter?
Please read the video description, This is part one. In part 2, I will build an MPPT module for this inverter, it can charge the battery from the grid and charge the battery from solar panel.
i already got 3 of those each cost me about 80$ but not APC other brands
hello, can u sent me a picture of the board particularly the IC18., i got a board like that with a burn and deface ic. tnx.
how much Amp your ups have is 30A or 15A out put I have 3000 watts pure sine wave 110V-120V 60Hz 30A
2200va / 220v = 10amp
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Yes, it works at 48V, in my country, it has a lot of second hand shops. A lot cheaper than a new inverter.
Hey, just curious. How loud is this fan when the battery is charging?
when charging it is quite silent. The fan is noisier when operating at 1500 > 2000W.
How do you know upfront whether a UPS utilizes 12v, 24v or 48v batteries?
1 battery 12v 2 24v 4 48v.
What batteries does this ups use
Can use this trick filter inductor to reduce load amps ?
change that noisy fan to a silent fan
Yes, this video is old. I currently have several newer devices replacing this UPS.
@@PhdHung you have done a great job people need those informative videos 😊
Tried everything you said and I still can't get it to work... Don't what I'm doing wrong.
where is coil connected? please give me more detailed information.
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Anh quấn cuộn cảm như vậy đấu vào có cần can thiệp vào phần bo mạch không anh cám ơn anh
Không bạn. Minh chỉ cuốn để giảm dòng điện ko tải thôi
@@PhdHung cám ơn anh nhiều nó chỉ có tác dụng khi không tải còn khi có tải vẫn vẫn ăn dòng bình thường hả anh
Куда ставит индуктивность?
can it use for on grid solar panel system ?
No bro.
how to disconnect the battery charger in the circuit?
cái đề giảm dòng không tải bạn mắc nối tiếp vào gọi là gì v b? cám ơn
Cuộn cảm 47uH nhé bạn.
Tôi thấy ups này có 2 bộ pin 24 vôn vậy điện áp đầu vào acquy là 24v hay 48v vậy bạn ơi
48V nhé b. Nó nối tiếp nhau hết
@@PhdHung thanks
hôm rồi anh tính mua cái cục này 1 triệu rưỡi ....nhưng không mua ...uổng quá...,he he he nhưng đợt trước anh nói với em là anh có 2 cái biến áp của cục này ...tính nhờ em làm inverter...để em quay video đó.....he he he hôm nào thiết kế theo ý của em nha,,......he he he anh chỉ có 2 cục biến thế này thôi....
Thanks
perfekt
What's the importance of reducing no-load current?
So it won’t drain your batteries while nothing is using it.
Iam subscribed i need square wave convert into pure sine wave video
hello i talk to you from chile, is in this case how do you charge the bateries ?...can i connect the solar charge regulator ?...and the other side how can i transfor my ups eaton 9130 in solar inverter ? greetings from chile
I use MPPT charger 45A. I think your UPS does the same thing.
@@PhdHung yea, today comprove that, I thought about using it, but I was afraid that it could short-circuit the battery charging stage. That is why I opened the ups and I realized that in reality it is a continuous ups and it is only enough to remove the 220 VAC input and in that case the ups will recognize the charger, it only requires a 72VDC input. Thanks
Có video reset để đấu bình ác quy to ko báo ỗi pin yếu ko
dùng phần mềm powerchute reset cái là đc thôi b. Bạn lên shopee mua cáp kết nối cho nó đi rồi mình chỉ tiếp cho. Lên google tìm powerchute APC nó hướng dẫn cũng đc
@@PhdHung mình thấy chưa ai làm video ấy.bạn up lên có lẽ nhiều luotj xem
Dear , which software you are using for video editing.
Camtasia 9.0
2 cục biến thế để kích điện hả bạn
Con này đấu DC 80-96V chạy dc ko anh
Ko bạn. Max 60v thôi
Có cách nào nâng công suất hay dãi điện áp lên tầm mức 80-90Votl dc ko bạn
@@huyhoang1592 mua con khác thoi b
Good day Admin...I am longing for the update and schematic diagram
Wrong battery connection for equal aging.
Lồng tiếng vào bạn ơi video chỉ tiết lamg
Thanks please emercen network power 1kva 36v convert 12v possible ??? Please reply
Alessandro Volta asks for the correct spelling of units
Hi how did you solve the low battery alarm after a set amount of time?
there speaker inside of it you take it out but ups sucks battery life not that long ok I have few inverter much better I have 500watts,800watts,1100watts,1500wats and 3000 watts inverter am building my own power station with few 20A Breaker and few 15A Breaker and few GCFI out let water proof tool box solar charger USB port etc
@@andyjack2368 I'm playing with a 5000w ups I got cheap. But i cannot find the annoying speaker !
@@samgriffiths1017 its there I could not find my own bud I did and just brake it out wich ups do you have I have ups 350
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@@samgriffiths1017 ok its small black thing have hole in it I have ups 350 I change battery have 3 12 volt lead acid 7.2 A and 20A 12 volt lead acid battery running my is 12 volt
Where is the solar ?
All you've done is put different batteries in a Inverter and showed it working.
How are you going to charge the batteries from the solar array?
I use MPPT charger
i have a bunch of those transformers out of apc they have high idle loses i wind my own i have a 70 pound core i am winding next 15 k
good
@@PhdHung i would like to try a diff transformer to lower idle amps
Cho hỏi bao nhiêu vòng hạn dòng ạ? cảm ơn...
Plengen...se nyoting ajoget
Bạn ơi cái lõi xuyến quấn bao nhiêu vòng vậy
tầm 3 đến 5 vòng là ok
@@PhdHung tại cái mạch của mình mới làm nó ăn mất 1A cho hệ 12v
I need 24 volt 2200va solar inverter with in bilt mppt charge controller 80amper can you asambel for me please sand me prise
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please can you upload an inverter that will work with TL494 PWM 50HZ to 100Khz Inverter 5000W. Thanks in advance
50Hz 100kHz
yes he uploaded a pwm circuit with TL494 a year ago and he didnt complete it
I need a 48 volt external voltage regulator for a car alternator I will pay for a cad file
làm sao fix cho còi nó hết kêu thế người anh em ? giup nha tks
Đơn giản nhất là tháo còi nhé :D . Không thì bạn tải powerchute vè rồi cắm cáp và fix tắt còi. Hoặc khi nó đang chạy, bạn bấm nút ON 1 lần nữa nó sẽ tắt còi đến khi bình yếu.
@@PhdHung ok tks ngươi ae
where is part 2 video?
السلام عليكم عدنا APC بدناله بطاريات ويكهرب صار يخربط
Hola no entendí para que el pones el toroidal ??
The no-load power of the APC2200 is 80W. After adding the inductor, the no-load power is ~40W.
@@PhdHung entonses se podría utilizar en cualquier UPS esa adaptación o sólo funsionaria con uno de 2200VA?
You come from which country
I come from VN
Assembling 48v battery is not cost effective
What tran core and swg no plz help im waitng your reply
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