Military Movie Bull$hi+: A Few Good Men

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  • The military coutroom classic, broken down Barney style by the Salty Seaman! A masterpiece in a lot of people's eyes, but did they get all the military details right? The Salty Seaman takes a look.
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  • @devinmorse3607
    @devinmorse3607 7 років тому +8

    The Academy thing is like Army movies having every officer being a West Pointer.

  • @kemolowlow
    @kemolowlow 7 років тому +67

    You missed a biggie....Maverick was a lieutenant fighter pilot 8 years prior and got demoted to a lieutenant junior grade lowly defense attorney.

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki 7 років тому +8

      Yep, probably lucky to only be demoted and reassigned. Why would they'd bother with the expense of paying for him to get a law degree?

    • @SAnastasio
      @SAnastasio 7 років тому +8

      Good one, a night blinded Carrier Top Gun pilot turned JAG. Maybe thats why Rabb Jr. was not a Top Gunner :)

    • @wyyclef
      @wyyclef 5 років тому +4

      He got demoted for buzzing the power.

    • @Atombender
      @Atombender 5 років тому +1

      And 30 year old Galloway is a Lt. Commander which is essentially impossible because the minimum time in service (after graduating) for that rank is 10 years and and one must be at least 17 in order to join the Academy or ROTC for 4 years.

    • @starwarsheros9245
      @starwarsheros9245 5 років тому

      @@SAnastasio hahahaha

  • @micaKTM1290
    @micaKTM1290 7 років тому +18

    You are wrong/right regarding the rank. Marines are particular about not using shorthand for rank. However, Lt. Col is the exception, it is common to call a Lt. Col, Colonel. Yes, I was in during the 80's it was NIS.

    • @fyrfyter81
      @fyrfyter81 5 років тому

      I want to say they changed it to NCIS in '94, but I might be wrong.

  • @AMD7027
    @AMD7027 7 років тому +13

    Forget the flight logs, the re-fueling logs and maintenance check book. Those would be harder to obtain and each of them spool off other records in return. The tower log might be "fixed" but missing that amount of fuel for a plane that never supposedly landed (it had to fly somewhere after it came in) would be difficult to square. Just try and explain where (for a C-130) 60,000 pounds or 9,000 gallons of fuel went.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому +3

      Edward Bashaw this is one of the paperwork trails they should have persued, yes.

    • @datguitarplayer1656
      @datguitarplayer1656 4 роки тому

      Bingo. Exactly what I was thinking. That's not in inconsequential amount of fuel to go unaccounted for

  • @alfredkeene4999
    @alfredkeene4999 4 роки тому +1

    This movie was based on an actual case. I was there when it happened. In Gitmo. The Marine didn't die. I was the platoon seargent in that platoon.

  • @michaelz7683
    @michaelz7683 5 років тому +8

    0:55 those weren't marines, that was the texas a&m fighting Aggie fish drill team

  • @saltybatch29
    @saltybatch29 7 років тому +1

    Great review - enjoyed it!

  • @sdseals2076
    @sdseals2076 6 років тому +1

    My senior drill instructor was big on drill, I sucked bad and was supposed to be at sick call so she could win and I actually wound getting hurt for real. I had to go to another platoon after I healed and while I healed I was in FRP (Female Readiness Platoon). They also have MRP. And recruits who fail the initial PT go there to train and also have to go another platoon as they cannot hold a platoon training up for one recruit.

  • @TheSaltySeaman
    @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому +1

    Follow the Salty Seaman on Facebook!
    m.facebook.com/Gabethesaltyseaman/
    On the famous "You can't handle the truth!" Scene...I had nothing to add. It's fucking awesome. So there.
    And the comments quickly let me know that yes, the NCIS used to be NIS.

  • @reesepacker7983
    @reesepacker7983 5 років тому

    Enjoying your channel ...was on path to Navy career myself up here Canada ...(as Radio Operator or Rad Op/Sigs on a frigate ) but dropped out of of boot camp ..actually here in Canada ..Army , Navy and Air Force recruits all go to the same Boot Camp ...i regret quitting everyday ..that was back in 96 ..i would have been retired now with full govt. pension ...but we make our choices in life and live with them.....any way enough about me ...looking forward to more of the movie vs reality reviews..btw you should consider " Crimson Tide" keep up the great work

  • @oldgeezer3324
    @oldgeezer3324 7 років тому +1

    You remarked Demi was on her way up in her career, actually she had done a ton of movies before this one, this is the first one I remember seeing her in that she didn't get naked. Aaron Sorkin was an upcoming write when he wrote this story. It was first written as a stage play. He submitted the story as an example of his writing trying to get into Whorellywood. Robe Riener read the story and called him and informed him he wanted to make changes in it as a play and invited Aaron to Whorellywood. Since that time Aaron has successfully participated in writing several movies.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому

      Old Geezer yes, Demi was becoming a major star but this really helped cement her. I knew this was early on Sorkins career but wasn't sure how early. Thanks. And i mentioned it was a play.

  • @mikegreck2625
    @mikegreck2625 5 років тому +2

    and those sleeve rolls are absolutely heinous

  • @pvanduyk6781
    @pvanduyk6781 5 років тому +2

    I was stationed in Guantanamo Bay in 1989. Col. Jessup was exaggerating when he said, "We are in the business of saving lives." & "We follow orders or people die." The #1 why Marines go to foreign countries is to protect American lives and interests.

  • @marcjohnson4385
    @marcjohnson4385 5 років тому +2

    I feel the same about your Deckape reviews as you feel about Marine Drill Team

  • @stevebirchall35
    @stevebirchall35 5 років тому

    I was on a drill team for B Co 24th ID company B and we did mad improv drills that was appreciated all the way to the division CO ooh ahh.

  • @dachuxing
    @dachuxing 7 років тому +1

    Really dig your stuff

  • @martinpower472
    @martinpower472 6 років тому

    I liked these.

  • @GeneralKenobiSIYE
    @GeneralKenobiSIYE 5 років тому

    This is the first video of yours I've seen and the channel name made me laugh. the Salty Seamen. roflmao!

  • @mazztek
    @mazztek 7 років тому +17

    Lemme help ya.... Minor points:
    Uniforms: We have 3 long sleeve, 3 short sleeve dress shirts, 1 ea alpha and dress blue blouses, 3 ea dress pants and 4 sets of cammies. Now, 6-8 for desert and woodland. Still not near as many as the Navy.
    That PFC's problems should have NEVER gotten to the CO. If that unit was as high strung as portrayed, the Fire team Leader, Squad leader and Platoon Sergeant, let alone the platoon commander (usually an officer) should have taken care of that PFC a LONG time ago. There would be a LOT more people in "training" in that case.
    -- SSgt, USMC-R Ret, 2862

    • @MultiM4rty
      @MultiM4rty 7 років тому

      I took the amount of service uniforms in his wall locker as a sign of the times; when Marines (even grunts) wore them far more often than today. Nowadays, your average Marine wears cammies nearly everyday, except on duty or for special duties. When I was in from '07-'11, most guys had 1-2 each of short sleeve & long sleeve tan shirts, and one set of green pants & Alpha jacket. 50/50 on having blues or not.

    • @Brokenskull666
      @Brokenskull666 7 років тому +2

      I was on Lejeune my entire time in Fleet, in from '05 to '09, and our *required* uniforms were explained in the Welcome Aboard brief as soon as I got there: 2 of each dress uniform blouse type for outerwear (without a dress uniform coat covering it, ribbon rack etc. ready to go), 2 of each dress uniform blouse type for under a dress coat, 4 pairs of trousers for each type of uniform (four pickle, four blue), dress blues alphas are optional ("If ya waste yer pay on a mustang, rent the fuckers for the ball" Aye aye, sir.), 4 to however many you want of each set of camouflage utilities. We were told that our individual units would notify us if we needed any additional uniforms, but I never met anyone aboard station that ever said they did.
      No mustang for me. I bought my blues. And all the beer I could get my grubby little meathooks on. Probably why I was stuck as a
      -- LCpl, USMC 0431 - Disabled, but still able to do or die if called upon

    • @shadowwolf6816
      @shadowwolf6816 7 років тому +3

      We had a whiner (in my first infantry unit, oh ground electronics technician) write his congressman over BS (it really was BS), and the Colonel DID get involved, even if it was to just order an in-house investigation. The feces was rolling fast...
      As soon as elected officials get involved, field and general grade officers HAVE to take notice.

    • @cripplehawk
      @cripplehawk 6 років тому +5

      This was based on an actual incident. Only a couple of things. Like you said it was strictly within the platoon. But unlike the film the WHOLE squad hazed the guy. Another thing the haze victim did not die but was seriously wounded (Skin turned blue, coughed out blood etc). 9 Marines were charged with the assault. But the whole regiment was in hot waters because of the severity of the incident. The Colonel was reassigned as a result but denied ordering the Code Red.
      As for the 9 Marines 7 took a plea bargain and were given a less than honorable discharge. 3 however fought to stay in the Marine Corp. I know one Corporal David Cox was successful and was allowed to stay in the Marines after his trial was over (He was sadly murdered in 1994. Case is still open).
      The incident occurred in Git-mo in July 1986 at Rifle Security Company, Windward Side, 2nd Platoon.
      Just FYI

    • @patmos09
      @patmos09 5 років тому +2

      The reason it got to the CO was because he was trying to rat on a fence-line shooting that'd make the unit look bad. Other than that Jessup didn't give a fuck about Santiago.

  • @robertmorris8997
    @robertmorris8997 3 роки тому

    Standard Marine Corps uniform issue at the time was 3 Charlie shirts, 3 Bravo shirts, 3 service trousers all season, 4 sets of cammies, 1 all season Alpha blouse, all weather coat, and 1 blues blouse and trousers, depending on duty requirements. He may or may not have rated blues, they were issue for a while, on and off. Not sure exactly for 1992.

  • @GasCityGuy
    @GasCityGuy 7 років тому

    I don't recall the exact year of the change to NCIS but there was a lot of restructuring following the Gulf War throughout the Navy. I don't recall hearing it before I got out in '94 but then I never had any dealings with them to have noticed.

  • @goproadventure
    @goproadventure 7 років тому +5

    The marines marching at the beginning of the movie are not marines, they are Texas A&M Fish Drill team

  • @iamedbytes
    @iamedbytes 7 років тому

    Thanks

  • @UNKNOWN-le2tu
    @UNKNOWN-le2tu 5 років тому

    as a Marine you are right, we are specific about ranks, for every rank except the general ranks (I Lot Gen, Brigadier Gen, and Make Gen we may just call them general or commanding General.

  • @johnschultz1650
    @johnschultz1650 5 років тому

    A little late to the video, but the PFC most likely has multiple uniforms for inspection purposes. It's easier in the long run to buy the extra uniforms just for inspections.

  • @kylemek0
    @kylemek0 6 років тому +1

    What no mention of how in this movie colonel seems to be the highest rank in the military.

    • @BornToPun7541
      @BornToPun7541 4 роки тому

      Yeah, because Jessep says that because he's a Colonel, he'll have to take cold showers until a woman gets elected President. Guess he forgot about the General ranks, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, etc............

  • @RenegadezFaith
    @RenegadezFaith 6 років тому

    when you ask about the number of dress uniforms, first of all, the uniforms in the wall locker are service uniforms not dress uniforms. We get issued 1 Service A blouse, 3 long sleeve khaki shirts, 3 short sleeve khaki shirts, 2 pairs of green service trousers, 2 khaki ties, and 2 pairs of Dress Blue trousers.

  • @thinkingoutloud9126
    @thinkingoutloud9126 7 років тому +1

    As a former Marine myself, I love this movie, but the misses on customs and courtesies really eats me up. You say its little things, but they are the fundamentals of being a Marine and it takes those in the know right out of the story.

  • @WBatte1
    @WBatte1 7 років тому +7

    In 1992 N.C.I.S. was still N.I.S. I believe if memory serves me correctly that it was September of 1992 that the restructuring of N.I.S. began in response to a few major scandals including the most notable of these being the Tailhook sex abuse scandal . This restructuring would lead to the name change .

    • @bayertwin
      @bayertwin 7 років тому +1

      Correct NIS was changed to NCIS in 94. ..You also forgot when in court he says colonel Jesup took his life with a 45 cal. pistol. .in the scene he used a stainless steel 9mm. Berretta. .neither made sense.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому

      L.E. Batte Lt. Col Macklemore, not Col. Jessup.

    • @bayertwin
      @bayertwin 7 років тому

      I stand corrected on the character..He did use the wrong rank & wepon

    • @snakeandnape9252
      @snakeandnape9252 7 років тому +2

      It's LTCOL Markinson.

  • @kevinpaullawrence79
    @kevinpaullawrence79 6 років тому +1

    I thought when you were talking about the lance coolie in the interogation room saluting, you were going to talk about him putting his hands in his pockets

  • @thinkingoutloud9126
    @thinkingoutloud9126 7 років тому

    Its like they hired an Army washout as the military consultant for this movie

  • @kylebradley3
    @kylebradley3 5 років тому +1

    We had a guy who was like 25 and ran away from his mother, and she called and called and bugged the shit out of our chain of command until they let him out of his contract.

  • @jerimiahhamby4790
    @jerimiahhamby4790 Рік тому +1

    My question was always. “Where are the NCO’s. Why is a lieutenant even talking to a lance corporal about the discipline of a private? That’s NCO business unless it requires UCMJ action

  • @poundbagcom
    @poundbagcom 7 років тому

    Ex-Army here.
    I always noticed the HUGE stockpile of dress uniforms in lockers, considering how I only carried 1 each the whole time I was in. Unless they have a lot more VIPs in Cuba for Club Gitmo, I wouldn't think anyone would have that many.
    Of course, there are always surplus stores near bases, and he could have been a clotheshorse.

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 7 років тому

      Back when I was in we were issued 3 Bravo and 3 Charlie shirts, one Alpha blouse, 2 Alpha trousers, and 1 Dress Blue trouser. So, the PFC had a bit much but not overly much and it's possible that he keeps extras that he never wears for locker inspections and stashes his other ones.

  • @johnathanheath6480
    @johnathanheath6480 7 років тому +1

    the only charge that I can think of that be it's equivalent there is a charge called conduct Unbecoming of an officer but I don't think there's one specifically for the United States Marine Corps

  • @LWolf12
    @LWolf12 7 років тому

    Cuba Gooding Jr was in another military movie that I liked called Men of Honour. Think it was the first one I saw him in to be honest.

  • @josephD32
    @josephD32 5 років тому

    I believe that the former NIS was reclassified NCIS right in 1992, so at the time of the script being written and filming, it probably was NIS.

  • @alexnicholson2375
    @alexnicholson2375 7 років тому

    1992 was the last year it was designated NIS, in the later half of the year, it logos and designators were phased out into NCIS

  • @SergeantC2
    @SergeantC2 7 років тому +6

    It would be possible to charge Conduct unbecoming a Marine under Article 134 of the UCMJ, the "General Article." Article 134 covers any offense not covered under any other article, and allows the JAG to tailor a charge to the offense where no charge exists.
    Essentially, if something is "Prejudicial to good order and discipline, and/or of a nature to bring discredit upon the Armed Forces," the prosecutor and write it up under 134. Weak, I know, but makes the charge of Conduct unbecoming a marine at least vaguely plausible.

    • @patrickmcshane7658
      @patrickmcshane7658 5 років тому

      That's the scumbag of the military

    • @thebronzetoo
      @thebronzetoo 5 років тому +1

      Art. 134 - The Catch-All Article

    • @RecklessAndroid33
      @RecklessAndroid33 5 років тому +1

      Unbecoming of a Marine actually isn’t a legitimate charge. Unbecoming only applies to officers.

  • @ironmanfanman4001
    @ironmanfanman4001 5 років тому

    The other thing to remember is GITMO is a small command as far as the Marine guard Detachment is confirmed.

  • @shidder_mutt
    @shidder_mutt 7 років тому

    Best Tom Cruise movie where he played the bad guy.

  • @carniestyle6454
    @carniestyle6454 5 років тому +2

    8:18
    Ooooooo! Hands in pockets!

  • @formerfc2255
    @formerfc2255 6 років тому

    It was NIS, back when I got out in '94.

  • @jeff2545mp
    @jeff2545mp 5 років тому +1

    I just couldn't get passed the Col. with his hands in his pockets at min 4:12

  • @michaelb.7800
    @michaelb.7800 5 років тому

    From 1948 until 1982 the original unit for NCIS was called ONI which was officers of Naval investigation and then in 1982 it was renamed NIS Naval Investigation Services in late September of 1992 into the first part of 1993 was renamed into Naval criminal Investigative Services which did not officially take over NIS until 1993

  • @none5526
    @none5526 7 років тому +10

    Ah, sir, you see the scene with the oregano was to establish that Caffery, wasn't a hot shot JAG. Or more precisely, that he was laid back about his job and didn't seem to be care all that much about his clients at the begining.

    • @none5526
      @none5526 7 років тому

      My touchpad went nuts and posted for me early.
      (a) Yes, the NCIS was the NIS when the movie was filmed. As I recall, the change was made after it lost the function of investigating mishaps generally due to the way it screwed up the _USS Iowa_ investigation. (As I recall.) But "NIS" to "NCIS" is for sure. (b) It gave the impression the two marines were going to be discharged that day. Someone had to take them to personnel. But the verdict and sentence would have had to have been reviewed and approved by convening authority and by the JAG or the Court of Criminal Appeals for the Navy and Marine Corps (if it existed at the time).
      Oh, the oregano. I know threre are states with "turkey" laws that pertain to substances people pass off as illegal drugs. I have no idea whether the miltary system has (or had) them. Maybe the trial counsel also should have said he'd take the deal up with the proper court-martial authority, since that's who exercises that kind of discretion in the miltary system. www.neworleans-criminal-defense.com/attorney-blog/2011/11/12/selling-counterfeit-fake-drugs-louisiana/
      Another legal thing. I'm neither a lawyer nor a veteran. However, I doubt the defense of superior orders would have cut much ice in this case. I doubt it would have had any effect upon them being convicted of other more serious charges against them. And there is a UCMJ offense of conduct unbecoming an officer. I wonder if the movie people got confused.
      Also, I don't believe prisoners are not even allowed to salute. That's considered a privilege for members of the service who are in good standing, or so I've read. (It was also an issue in _The Last Castle_.) They were prisoners when they were in jail (the brig). And I don't know if the lance corporal was considered a prisoner at the end, but he wasn't in good standing. (Although no one could stop him, and who would probably care much.)

    • @none5526
      @none5526 7 років тому

      www.columbuscriminalattorney.com/drug-offenses/possession-of-counterfeit-drugs/

  • @americagodojo3286
    @americagodojo3286 2 роки тому

    There would have been some captains involved with this case before a colonel got involved. I did meet a Marine colonel with a very loose haircut. It happens. I'm Army. A Marine Master Sergeant told me about the full title when I called him Sergeant the way the Army does. We had dress whites in Hawaii. They were okay but everyone preferred the BDU's. As a former defense council I will tell you that the JAG lawyers don't get overly involved with their cases. All this preparation is overplayed. You are correct in calling bullshit on conduct unbecoming as a Marine.

  • @mikeyhbr
    @mikeyhbr 5 років тому

    Retired USAF here. I am surprised you are not aware of Article 134. NCO's know this as the catch-all article. While I did not serve in legal and it is very lengthy, I was always aware of its existence.

  • @michaelb.7800
    @michaelb.7800 5 років тому +2

    NIS was the correct term until 1993 then it became NCIS she basically went from Navy Investigative Services to Navy criminal Investigative Services past present day

  • @pedicabdiaries2460
    @pedicabdiaries2460 7 років тому

    hav e you thought about doing PLATOON, Saving Pvt Ryan, siege of firebase gloria, MASH

  • @bowenit
    @bowenit 4 роки тому

    Conduct unbecoming of a marine would be under 134 (General Article). I know because while in the USMC I've been a chaser where it was invoked, as a provision for that reason.

  • @mr.perfect1er933
    @mr.perfect1er933 6 років тому

    Yes NCIS, was called NIS in '92. Naval Investigation Service....now... Naval Criminal Investigation Service.

  • @BornToPun7541
    @BornToPun7541 4 роки тому

    Question: How common are "mustang officers" in the Navy and Marines?

  • @captainbryce1
    @captainbryce1 4 роки тому

    As an Air Force guy, I will say that the saluting in doors is not a problem (if you are reporting to your commander, reporting for a board with an officer on the panel, or taking part in a ceremony where you receive something from a presiding officer). In the Air Force, an enlisted member or junior officer would be expected to salute the superior officer even indoors. Reception of an award or medal for example would require a "take, shake, and salute" even if the ceremony is held indoors. However, I also know from inter-service functions that the Navy does NOT follow this tradition exactly. If they salute indoors, they have to be wearing their cover, and in an Air Force ceremony, a sailor will temporarily don their cover before saluting before removing it again. But this whole idea of saluting an officer just because they enter or exit a room - yeah that's bullshit. You call the room to attention and stand (unless there is an equal or higher ranking officer already in the room). That's it.

  • @BenRollinsActor
    @BenRollinsActor 7 років тому

    The number of uniforms hanging in the PFC's locker is the required number in the Marine Corps.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому +1

      the7thson1962 nope, he's a few over. Not necessarily bullshit, but it's unusual someone would have that many.

    • @guerrilladigger
      @guerrilladigger 7 років тому

      I only saw two of the Class A blouses in the locker.

  • @anthonystocco7967
    @anthonystocco7967 5 років тому

    as a Marine i was required to have three long sleeve shirts three short sleeve 2 pairs of green pants two pairs of blue pants 5 sets of camos at all times to stand a junk on the bunk inspection

  • @thinkingoutloud9126
    @thinkingoutloud9126 7 років тому

    According to NCIS the TV show yes it was NIS

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn 6 років тому +1

    Michael DeLorenzo was pretty old to be playing a marine private, though he does look young.

  • @kimbonzky
    @kimbonzky 7 років тому

    Drill/drill marching as you call it, was fun durring basic training, and after that, no one cared

  • @hosank
    @hosank 5 років тому

    I'm sure someone answered this in the comments, but yeah, NIS became NCIS in 1992.

  • @macalcord
    @macalcord 5 років тому

    Can you do Taps?

  • @YNOTONY
    @YNOTONY 5 років тому

    You should make one about platoon

  • @RICKSARASSOCIATES
    @RICKSARASSOCIATES 5 років тому

    YET AGAIN YOU DO IT!!!! (1) Lt. Col. in the Corps is Always when addressed or referred to is called COLONEL, (2) NIS is what the Naval Investigative Service was referred to in the 1980s, because it also was involved in many Anti-Espionage investigations in the Navy and Marine Corps (For example the case of the Walker Family Spy Case which shook the MIlitary Intelligence community to its core) (3) Conduct unbecoming a Marine is Derived from Article 133 of the UCMJ which specifically refers to officers, but many a marine is burned by that charge as it would be written under Article 134 which is also known as the General Article, or more so as the Catch'em all article. Just check the base newspaper on Camp LeJeune every Friday, and read how many Marines are burned by that charge.

  • @madbear3512
    @madbear3512 5 років тому

    You should do heart breakridge next.

  • @chrislee4616
    @chrislee4616 5 років тому

    The Marines refused to do the rifle march in the opening scene...so Rob Reiner had to use the Texas A&M University Rifle squad

  • @glockguy309
    @glockguy309 7 років тому +2

    Can you do U571?

    • @richardmickelson6026
      @richardmickelson6026 5 років тому +1

      Here I can do it for you right now... "It's all wrong."... "Please like and subscribe for more interesting comments" :D
      But in reality why? It's one of the worst military movies in the history of military movies. Suggest something like Das Boot or K19 if you want good sub movies

  • @andrewdressler7076
    @andrewdressler7076 5 років тому +1

    No military experience but I am an attorney with some knowledge of the UCMJ thanks to friends who serve or have served as JAG attorneys in various branches, here are some of the things that I say are BS (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong):
    1. Why would a Lt. JG be assigned as lead defense counsel for a homicide? You'd think they'd have someone way more senior than that (O-4 or higher) as lead defense counsel. Same thing for the prosecutor (Kevin Bacon), I don't think you'd see an O-3 as the lead prosecutor on a murder.
    2. Even if the Lt. JG were on the legal team defending the homicide, there is no way they'd send a LT. Jg to interview a Colonel.
    3. Why would the court martial proceedings take place in DC if the convening authority for that court martial is conceivably in Guantanamo? Wouldn't it take place in the location where the convening authority is?
    4. Although the Marine Corps is under the Navy banner, why would a Marine Corps convened court-martial have Navy JAGs involved?
    5. Kevin Bacon would have caused a mistrial in his opening statement by making an improper comment on what Tom Cruise's would do in the trial. That is shifting the burden to the defense when they have no burden and the sole burden is on the government.
    6. You can't handle the truth - great scene but would never happen in a real courtroom as the questions were objectionable on multiple grounds. As such, the judge would have shut it down immediately and maybe would have even declared a mistrial had it gone on.

  • @Riceball01
    @Riceball01 7 років тому +1

    For movie reviews you need to do Hearbreak Ridge, great movie but full of inaccuracies. For TV shows you should do either the old Black Sheep Squadron or NCIS.

    • @MultiM4rty
      @MultiM4rty 7 років тому +1

      Riceball01 Full of inaccuracies, but somehow surprisingly accurate at times for the way Marines just...are.

  • @shoominati23
    @shoominati23 7 років тому

    You should do G.I. Jane next , I'm sure you'll be just spewing the gospel on that one. Or Maybe Cadence would be a good one to do, as it actually tries to get the military life pretty real. It's got his Father in it and Lawry Fishburne too, If you haven't seen it yet, it's a real good Charlie Sheen movie you should watch, it was called Stockade in other markets- so it could be that to find it.. I had no problem finding it on the usual, um - sharing.. Site when I input 'cadence sheen' as I only ever had a dubbed copy on a long since thrown out VHS tape. Will be good to see it again actually, Sheen actually did some good movies in his youthful years.
    The Marine drilling tradition.. Well, the thing they do that impressed me the most is their two lines facing juggling of the Garands and throwing / catching.. just wonder if they are lightened down parade M1s, or the real thing?

  • @davidfrederick6003
    @davidfrederick6003 5 років тому

    The CUB charge I think is a split decision....1)Remember Jessup recieved orders himself that Hazing was discouraged by his higher ups and he ignored that. 2)Dawson had to obey the code red order spite and DEPENDING that it was to be no longer apart of a Marine procedure. 2)Dawson says to Downey "yeah we did, were supposed to fight for those who couldnt fight for themselves". But spite they were found not guiilty of murder as "people" on trial for murder they were found guilty for murder of a fellow marine....Unbecoming a marine.

  • @davidfrederick6003
    @davidfrederick6003 5 років тому

    Okay not sure if you'll get back on a particular scene issue that other reviews have touched one...When Dawson says the Marine code "Honor, Core, God, Country" which that apparently incorrect.

  • @ryanreyes4622
    @ryanreyes4622 5 років тому

    You forgot Jack Bauer also yeah NCIS was once called the Naval Investigative Service

  • @lindseysummers5351
    @lindseysummers5351 7 років тому +1

    Good video, and there is something that intrigues me: LCDR Galloway entered the JAG Captain's office in the opening scene and placed her cover on his desk before she sat down. I've always heard that is disrespectful to one's superiors (maybe even extremely disrespectful). I am guessing lower enlisted could never get away with that, but would a fellow officer (even a junior officer) serving in a professional capacity have a bit more leeway with that slight?

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому

      I don't recall that custom in my 20 years. I know you can't put your cover on the mess decks tables, as that is reserved for showing respect when bodies of fallen sailors and marines are being carted through.

    • @lindseysummers5351
      @lindseysummers5351 7 років тому

      The Salty Seaman Interesting...
      If you've ever seen the film, "The Lords of Discipline," this courtesy is exemplified in one of the last scenes. The hero of the story bursts into the Commandant's office without an appointment or knocking, and promptly plops his cover on the Commandant's desk. Great scene...
      Care to do a posting on "Crimson Tide?"

  • @djcruiselover3827
    @djcruiselover3827 7 років тому

    I do have a question wouldn't enlisted personnel have a jury of officers?

    • @vyctordraco948
      @vyctordraco948 5 років тому

      Enlisted have enlisted as juries. It isnt called a "Jury of your PEERS" for nothing.

  • @sqike001ton
    @sqike001ton 7 років тому +6

    a marine will call a latrine a latrine if it is actually a latrine

    • @MultiM4rty
      @MultiM4rty 7 років тому +3

      We only called it a latrine if we dug it into the ground. Aboard ship or in a building? It's the head.

    • @sqike001ton
      @sqike001ton 7 років тому +1

      thats what i meant a hole in the ground is a latrine

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому +1

      Yeah, which you wouldn't clean.

    • @sqike001ton
      @sqike001ton 7 років тому

      The Salty Seaman. true possibly burn but not clean

    • @MultiM4rty
      @MultiM4rty 7 років тому

      NATHAN NEVILLE Gotcha

  • @StPaul76
    @StPaul76 7 років тому

    I actually just watched this movie a couple of months ago and one thing I noticed was that how could the Demi Moore's character be was it a commander captain(?)at such an obviously young age especially with no battle field experience as a lawyer and in piece time..? But all these were rather small mistakes compared to a one Finnish (I am a Finn) military comedy where a first lieutenant was sporting a what would nowadays be called a "tactical beard".. The Only Person I know, who has ever served in the FDF during Finland's 100 years of independence while wearing any kind of facial hair, was the Marshal of Finland and Commander in Chief, baron Carl Gustav Emil Mannerheim.. And he sported a moustache in the spirit of 19th century.. It just simply won't do to have facial hair in the Finnish armed forces.. :D Thanks for the video, interesting as always!

  • @robdixon7732
    @robdixon7732 5 років тому

    Do "Under Seige"!

  • @haroldmcbroom7807
    @haroldmcbroom7807 6 років тому

    What's the point in displaying the baphomet sign in the introduction? Is it to show support, allegiance, or I'm not getting it? Just curious

  • @GTFORDMAN
    @GTFORDMAN 5 років тому

    can you review "Three Kings"

  • @lowrider7474
    @lowrider7474 7 років тому

    I'd suggest crimson tide if you haven't seen it yet

  • @robertjeffery3237
    @robertjeffery3237 7 років тому

    I retired from the navy in 1994. It was NIS then. I don't know when it changed.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому

      robert jeffery 92, so you just don't remember it your last couple of years. Being old and all XD

    • @robertjeffery3237
      @robertjeffery3237 7 років тому

      Oddly, I was interviewed by an agent with NIS in June of '94. His card read Naval Investigative Service. Maybe Norfolk, Virginia was in a time warp.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому

      robert jeffery does that surprise you? Lol

    • @robertjeffery3237
      @robertjeffery3237 7 років тому

      No! Time warps in Hampton Roads or even in Northern Virginia don't surprise me in the least.

    • @BornToPun7541
      @BornToPun7541 4 роки тому

      Hmmm, my dad retired from the Navy in 1994 also (as a Senior Chief). His final duty station was at or in the Pentagon. He had done an earlier stint in Charleston, SC but had spent most of his career in Norfolk. I was born in the Tidewater area due to his being stationed there.

  • @ottoskorzeny01
    @ottoskorzeny01 5 років тому

    fyi the opening scene of platoon drill that everyone comments on, were not in fact marines. watch the credits, they were rotc cadets. since the movie did not show the marine corps in the best light, they didnt give much cooperation to the project.

  • @Rusty-Brown_
    @Rusty-Brown_ 7 років тому

    back in older days it was NIS

  • @thebronzetoo
    @thebronzetoo 5 років тому

    Yes, NCIS was NIS back then.

  • @bbgun061
    @bbgun061 7 років тому +1

    Shortening the ranks for convenience happens all the time in the Army. All privates are called private, sergeants, staff sergeants and sergeants first class are all called sergeant. And so on.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому +2

      Benjamin Brooks yep. Air Force and navy too. Marines do NOT play that.

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 7 років тому

      That's 100% correct, at least that's true with enlisted ranks, I think that we'd shorted officer ranks and drop things like 1st and 2nd for LTs, and LT for LT Colonels, but I can't say that for certain since my unit only had Captains and Majors. But for the enlisted ranks everybody is addressed by their full rank or the accepted nickname if they're in your unit or you are senior to them.

    • @MultiM4rty
      @MultiM4rty 7 років тому

      The Salty Seaman Abso-yutting-lutely! The only exceptions may be "Gunny" for Gunnery Sergeant, and then only if they're in your unit AND approve. I understand you can supposedly address a Master Sergeant (and only a MSgt.) as "Top" with the same guidelines, but being in the grunts I can't recall ever even seeing one in the wild.

  • @lennymellusi924
    @lennymellusi924 5 років тому

    It was NIS in 82

  • @snakeandnape9252
    @snakeandnape9252 7 років тому

    You missed the part about John Jackson who would later play Admiral Chegwidden on JAG is Demi Moore's CO. And as far as MSM's go. That is a senior officers paperwork award.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому

      Right. And she's an 04. An 05 that is a ship's CO would get an MSM, or a Master Chief. Not a middle of the road LCDR.

    • @snakeandnape9252
      @snakeandnape9252 7 років тому

      Good point. The only officers I dealt with on a regular basis were Warrant or LDOs.

  • @joewiedmeier1080
    @joewiedmeier1080 5 років тому

    Can you do Renaissance man?

  • @bmt336
    @bmt336 5 років тому

    And early 1960s Chevrolets had no shoulder harness seat belts....

  • @ricmon7964
    @ricmon7964 6 років тому

    The United States Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) is the primary law enforcement agency of the United States Department of the Navy. Its primary function is to investigate criminal activities involving the United States Navy and United States Marine Corps, though its broad mandate includes national security, counter-intelligence, counter-terrorism, cyber warfare, and the protection of U.S. naval assets worldwide. NCIS is the successor organization to the former Naval Investigative Service (NIS), which was established by the Office of Naval Intelligence after the Second World War.

  • @eastbro
    @eastbro 5 років тому

    Isn't it expected that most if not all Hollywood movies will tend to have some fiction thrown in to make more interesting?

  • @sevenhornets
    @sevenhornets 5 років тому

    Yep it was NIS back then. Not sure of the yr it changed.

  • @mgelliott1
    @mgelliott1 7 років тому +1

    You missed HUGE disrespect between a LTJG and a LTCDR. I don't care how non military he was or who his dad was or how great an attorney Caffrey was.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому

      mgelliott1 I noticed, but let it slide. Jag is a different beast and i didn't want to speculate on how they interact between themselves.

  • @alisterfolson
    @alisterfolson 7 років тому

    Please do Men of Honor

  • @davidfrederick6003
    @davidfrederick6003 5 років тому +1

    BTW If Santiago had a heart condition or problem with running in heat (spite pushing himself to train) wouldnt Marine's physician disqualify him for basic training

    • @willarterberry3392
      @willarterberry3392 3 роки тому

      that's what i was thinking. I don't think someone like that would ever be allowed to enlist period and would probably have been medically discharged if it came up after. Same with Full Metal Jacket and the fat guy. Someone like that would probably never be allowed to enlist

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 3 роки тому

      @@willarterberry3392 same here at least about Santiago; as for Gomer Pyle==he was a draftee.

    • @willarterberry3392
      @willarterberry3392 3 роки тому

      @@nickmitsialis Did the Marine corps ever take draftees though? I thought they all went to the Army, at least during Vietnam

    • @nickmitsialis
      @nickmitsialis 3 роки тому

      @@willarterberry3392 I think the Marines took draftees in all their recent wars; I know they took them especially for Vietnam just because they needed the manpower later on in the war. They may have been 'All Vol' 1965 - early 1967 but after heavy casualties....

  • @skepticalrebekah
    @skepticalrebekah 2 роки тому

    Little disappointed you didn’t mention Keifer as a heavy hitter in this movie.

  • @wyyclef
    @wyyclef 5 років тому

    Just a bit of constructive criticism. Maybe this is one of your early videos, and maybe you've improved since April 2017, but there are free online classes right here on UA-cam that I think would greatly benefit your editing skills.

  • @jacobdewitt2535
    @jacobdewitt2535 7 років тому

    How about a review of the Last Detail?

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman  7 років тому +3

      Jacob DeWitt I AM THE FUCKING SHORE PATROL

    • @snakeandnape9252
      @snakeandnape9252 7 років тому

      or Chasers. You could have some fun with that one. When I went through Brig Chaser school they made us watch a few scenes from that movie as an example of what not to do.

  • @meathead6155
    @meathead6155 4 роки тому

    I think the movie was alright, and it's not that bad. The acting was thrilling, stories looked deep, and it's fine.

    • @meathead6155
      @meathead6155 4 роки тому

      I don't think the movie wasn't that bad at all.

  • @michaelphillips2629
    @michaelphillips2629 5 років тому +1

    This movie possibly for plot purposes conveniently leaves out anyone in pay grades E4 to E9 who would've in real life been more involved in the predicament of Private Santiago and handled it differently than say lance corporal Dawson and private Downey. It seems that before getting COL Jessup involved, 1st LT Kendrick would've let the Sergeants handle the situation .

    • @ssgus3682
      @ssgus3682 5 років тому

      Exactly. The PSG would have handled it long before it got to the brigade Commander