Mental Health for All by Involving All | Vikram Patel | TED Talks
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2012
- Nearly 450 million people are affected by mental illness worldwide. In wealthy nations, just half receive appropriate care, but in developing countries, close to 90 percent go untreated because psychiatrists are in such short supply. Vikram Patel outlines a highly promising approach -- training members of communities to give mental health interventions, empowering ordinary people to care for others.
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i suffered from depression which affected me in every way. physically and of course mentally. my spirit was still there thank God. i was 'out of touch' with reality and was living in my own little world in my head. I had to drop out of school and its been 5 months since, and im on the road to recovery. there is help people, as well as hope. wish yall the best.
I have a bad case of Anxiety, and your the first person to stand up for me that I've heard, Thanks.
I'm a psychologist practising in Mumbai. As much as I agree with this even ten years down the line, one important issue is despite resources, people not accessing them due to stigma, shame, taboo and cultural conditioning. The obsession of physical health and giving the mind step treatment is a real existent evil. Not enough emphasis on the mental well being and mind body connect further deepens the divide. I hope we see a day when people start giving enough if not more importance to mental health!
One of the amazing presentations i ever come across, addressing the problem directly and provided the solutions. Thanks Prof Vikram Patel
Hi Vikram, Gauri, Ashok - back in 1993 - in Zimbabwe- so proud of your path well trodden. I’m still in that ED!! ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏Caroline xx
Religion is a big mental health tool which is very smart and highly advanced concept which was developed thousands of years back itself,
The concept of God and belief in God really prevent many many many many mental health issues in illeterate, uneducated and immature people
It gives immediate relief and a hope for people,
Especially stress and anxiety issues are completely preventable with belief in God,
Great message. Regardless of the country, we all need to become more engaged in the discourse around mental health and more open about each of our own personal struggles with mental health. Everybody has a brain!
This is an inklusive approach I was looking for. Thank you for sharing!
Mental health, something many people know about but do not truly understand the complexity and seriousness regarding the effects it has on a person. I have learned about mental illnesses prior to this video but wanted to know more. I was surprised to hear that 400-500 million people around the world are estimated to be suffering from a mental illness. Mental illness is the leading cause of disability in the world. Depression itself is the third leading cause of mental illness. This video talked about the importance of proper health care given to people with mental illness rather than being turned away like so many have been. The difference in the quality of care received by a person with mental illness is why they tend to have shorter life spans compared to people without mental illness. It’s proven that people with mental illness live shorter lives than people who aren’t suffering from one, the life expectancy gap is as much as 20 years in developed countries and increases in developing countries. I enjoyed how the speaker incorporated the importance of life quality in relation to proper health care. DALY, also known as disability adjusted life year. What this is, is a period of when a person first acquired an illness and began living with it on a day to day basis and has had to adjust his normal life routines to try and deal with his/her mental illness. At an international level we need to begin offering easy access to care at an affordable level. Giving better health care to people with mental illness is fundamentally empowering as noted in the video. It also allows people to become more effective in their everyday lives and lets the person become a guardian of their own health. People suffering from a mental illness should receive quality medical care and it’s important that medical professionals begin to bridge the gap between what we already know about mental illness and learn how to successfully apply it to the every day world.
Cole Cosbitt couldn't agree more. wow.
Thank you for expressing your points of views regarding mental health. In the past years, I have been more aware regarding the increase of the concern of these conditions in our society. It is still a taboo topic in some occasions and, I feel, that we are not educated to address them when we are growing up in high school or in the workforce. I was not aware that mental illnesses, especially suicide, had such a large amount of influence around the world, especially younger ones. I do question the classification of several conditions or at least how severe they are, because of my own lack of awareness; such as not seeing the impact of them in my community. Why people with mental illness do not receive the same treatment as someone with the same condition but without a mental illness? I believe if because they are afraid to use their resources to cure half of the problem or because they are dismissing the relevance or importance of these health problems. I was surprised to listen that there was not that many psychologist or psychiatrists, especially in India. The research that your coworkers and yourself did was fascinating and that is why I would like to see more programs worldwide, with not only with mental illnesses, but also other common conditions like arthritis or pneumonia. I strongly agree with your view on educating the community in how to handle or treat mental health problems; it would decrease the suicide and cyberbullying, for example, in the current youth and could break the chain of harassment for the future. I enjoyed your explanation about "sundar" and I do want to refocus it to the "s," because the simplification of these health problems is critical specially because not everyone has the medical knowledge or social awareness to comprehend the complicated explanations. I recently watched a video about why the healthcare cost are so expensive in the United States and I admire your approach in how bringing back the healthcare back to the communities will reduce the cost of care as a whole. If I could go to a mentor or community center when I feel depress or sad, instead of the doctor who might prescribe medication, it will drastically reduce the cost and the consumption of medications.
I suffer from social anxiety, and a lot of people tell me, "Oh, you just think too much." And, sure, I may think too much and possibly over-analyze things, but when did thinking too much and analyzing things become a problem? That's the big question I have, despite whether or not I think too much and over-analyze things.
We all need to know thyself and love thyself unconditionally. This is all. Peace
Glad to see someone trying to tackle this issue
I have people very close to me with mental disabilities (mainly depression and anxiety) and I know how hard it can be to realise that they are illnesses too.
Even when it's very obvious that a person is truly sick with mental illness, people just say: "you've just got to be strong and get over it". It's like saying: "oh you have a broken leg, but I'm sure you can run a mile if you're strong and just get up".
thank you for making this. My story is a living horror story.. I have BPD, but also have illnesses and disabilities. I have a lazy bowel and it perforated in 2011. When I went to A and E I was disbelieved and told that I was making up my pain and symptoms to get attention. I got iller and iller over 5 days on a ward, and they refused me a CT scan and tried to discharge me and send me home. I Had pain that I didn't think humans could possibly endure. My pain and my fear was primal, I* made animal noises. I knew I was dying but noone believed me.
On day 4 they rang my friend and told her they were sending me home and she begged them not to, on They agreed to discharge me in the morning. On day 5 I was so seriously ill I vomited faeces and it was the most terrifying thing ever. It was only then the medics realised I was dying . They ran my trolley into theatre and gave me a colostomy then put me in ICU where I was now fighting for my life with septic shock. I slipped into a coma and was on life support. They took my friends into a room and told them I was not going to survive and they asked them to turn off the life support. I managed to breathe but I fought for every breath, every heartbeat, whilst hallucinating horrific torture. I pulled through after a month in ICU, but was in hospital for 3 months.
I then had to deal with the fact that I now had my bowel hanging out of my belly. it was the most disturbing thing to deal with, with pre existing mental illness. I developed severe PTSD from, the medical negligence, with a terror of dying, and a fear of being disbelieved again, and a phobia of hospitals and medics.I had the bag for 2 1/2 years, then an ileostomy for a year. I have had another 5 major bowel surgeries in the last 5 years, to fix the resulting damage and I'm on thew urgent list for my 6th. My life has changed irreversibly. I got rid of the bag but I live with faecal k incontinence,m and I'm only 45.
I t took 5 years to get an apology off the hospital for the medical and psychological horror they have put me through for 5 years. What I want is for what I went through to never happen to another mentally ill patient in a UK hospital again. There is no excuse.. A bowel surgeon may not know what the different mental illness are and how they manifest, but there is a mental health team at that hospital.. all they needed to do was call and ask whow does BPD manifest, if they had done that simple task, my health and my life would not have been ruined. They had misconstrued BPD with munchausen's syndrome. Nowhere in the DSM5 does it say that people with BPD make up physical symptoms to get attention. Another excuse that they gave was that they thought I had learning difficulties or was in psychosis, because I was so delirious because I has sepsis. They asked my friends many times if I had these conditions and my friends told them that I didnt, that I have a degree and can communicate perfectly.. I WAS PHYSICALLY ILL!!! But, does that mean that if someone has any form of mental illness, including psychosis or learning difficulties, that makes them exempt fro ever getting physically ill? IT IS UTTER INSANITY!!
They caused me more damage as every surgery that was planned got cancelled multiple times, and I got told that because the NHS is in such crisis, they refused me planned surgery and told me they would only operate when it became life threatening, so they forced me into 3 more life threatening medical emergencies where I got very ill and had to have a much more complex surgery with a month long admission with severe post operative complications. Thi8s added layers of both physical damage and psychological.
Last summer, when I got the apology, I proposed fighting to make the system safe for mentally ill patients who also have a physical illness. The chief executive of the hospital agreed to make changes and was going to keep me posted wit h them, but they never did. In those 5 years, I was refused any mental health support whatsoever, for the BPD and the PTSD.
Not only was I very ill, fighting the hospital , I also had to fight the mental health system for 5 years, desperate to get some help for the complex trauma I was experiencing, but got told that I was coping when I wasn't and denied help.. It took until last summer for me to finally be able to access mental health support. But the trauma has become so ingrained that I feel there ius no hope of recovery.
Now my hospital is in permanent "special measures" so I will be forced to go through more multiple cancellations and be forced into another medical emergency.It is harrowing.I flagged up that the NHS is focussing on cutting money short tertmn, but the long term implications of this is not saving money!! The surgery is more complex and risky and instead of a 5 day admission, it costs them to keep me in for a month each time.
I want to fight for change but it is impossible!! I don't know how much more my body and mind can take!
The final point I had to make in the meeting was the treatment the mentally ill get when they are in a physical hospital. It is like we are meant to take off our mental illnesses at the door, like a coat, and put them on again when we leave. We cannot cut off out minds and bodies!! The treatment and attitudes of the nursing staff is that you are being difficult or obstructive or attention seeking if you're scared or having a panic attack. I have tried writing letter before I am admitted, explaining my BPD , PTSD and hospital phobia, but it gets ignored.. We need education about mental illnesses in our hospitals and we need it now!!! All it takes is a phone call.
i am now on my 5th incisional hernia, in constant pain, no core muscle strength that has accelerated my arthritis in my spine . I have to have a care team. If I had been scanned and believed on day 1, I wouldn't have almost died from sepsis and the damage would have been significantly less.
If anyone has any ideas as how to fight this further to prevent the serious injury and inevitable deaths that will occur, from denying the mentally ill access to physical medical care, and from all the medical emergencies the NHS is forcing people to endure year after year, please get in touch with me. THIS BARBARIC TREATMENT HAS TO END!!!!! .
This is not happening in a 3rd world country.It is incomprehensible that this negligence is happening in the UK, and it is so hidden.
its a shame that doctors and health "professionals" have so little clue about current state of meta-analysis about the topic that they work in all day long
i am so sorry this happened to you, I hope you get justice and you're staying strong to fight them!
Involving the patients and their relatives in the movement is a good move. Empowerment method.
On the contrary it is training that destroys people's innate abilities to heal each other mentally. All you need to do is give ordinary people the confidence that they can help people with mental health issues. Such people would be just as effective as psychiatrists who are mostly average.
I feel it's more than just counselling ect in this model of public health in the sense that as a community your supportive and inclusive that helps people recover from MI. In fact it makes people feel valued both the practitioner and the patient. Well done 👍🏻
"There is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bullshit. I mean, you just
can’t define it.” “These concepts [of distinct mental disorders] are virtually impossible to define precisely with bright lines at the borders.”-Dr Francis Allen, creator of the DSM-IV
Excellent message: Empowerment of communities for self-care & simplification of healthcare is the way of the future...7 billion is no small number!
Actually, largely I am. I quit my antidepressant a few months back by myself, and I'm doing OK. I still get short bursts of being depressed, rarely I get some anxiety symptoms, but I largely able to think myself out of them. My future is a motivation rather than some dark hole now.
deserve a standing ovation
Yes indeed♥️
thank you vekram
Paraprofessional counsellors have been shown to be better than fully trained counsellors. They are cheaper as well. Basically a naturally empathic person beats a person trained in theory any time.
Well said Aaron Pinkney. The key being "however this does not apply to nations such as India where mental illness related stigmas are prevalent. Also, as Mr Patel highlighted, a lack of resources inhibits treatment. Thus, it is unlikely that mental health awareness campaigns would even be contemplated."
I am ghanaian and I intend to do psychology in the future and work till my own age in educating people about mental health issues!
This man is putting it in a way as, If it affects your everyday life like, your atheletics, activities, abilities, learning, etc. Liking Chocolate alot is a Mental something I can't find a word for it. Its not a mental dissability.
Medical professionals like doctors affected by mental health issues can turn out to be the best advocates for this mission.
Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
Why would anyone dislike this video? Anyway.. interesting to hear what the speaker shared. forwarding it in mental health circles and lay.
Absolutely groundbreaking!
it's so good and nice presentation .
This guy is a great speaker.
We are blessed as free will... Every
No problem. I'm impressed with the humility of your response, its a rare thing on youtube. Peace
As friends of people in this situation our job is to help make this transition easier. "Enabling" and treating the person as sick doesn't really help, cognitive-behavioural-therapy style reinforcing of reality where you challenge the person out of their comfort zone can have much more beneficial outcomes.
Fuck, I have both depression AND anxiety. Better get ready for my -20 years life!
Seriously though, it's possible to "win" over mental illnesses, It's hard, and it takes time, but it's doable.
they are both good - the people with the formal degrees (or training, education or even lots of experience working in the 'helping professions') will be doing the coaching and working WITH the people in communities.
Mental health is a thing. Yes. The issue is the stigma we place on it. No one seems to want to speak of it. The world cup seems to be the distraction in June 2018, yet mental health has affected humanity since...well, I can't pin point the date but you get the idea.
Maybe it needs to be renamed?
Not sure what that is, but we all go through s***, and some of us deal better than others. It's up to those of us who have conquered...something, anything, to speak up, support, and inspire others who may not be willing to share. If you've been through...'something', you can feel it in another, no words needed. Thats the power of simply being human lol. So take action! Be Kind, pass it on.
Very well said, Appreciate your efforts to keep on moving with the awareness drives.
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Great talk.
It's because of the variance in symptoms. Some can appear down, and then they're fine in 10 minutes, a day, a week etc. Whereas a broken leg has a predictable recovery rate. Prognosis is somewhat certain.
Excelente presentación cada uno tiene parte de responsabilidad en esta tarea
He truly is boss.
Bonsoir, Merci pour le partage. Très émouvant et pragmatique
I can't watch this. The man is spot on correct...
Very sad set of circumstances..
My brother is Autistic, years back they said he should go to a mental institute as he'd never amount to anything. Now? He has a job and talks and very high functioning thanks to Doctors like this.
A problem with this approach is that people weakened by any illness can become victims to predators if the latter are left unchecked. Not only that, technical knowledge is not the only knowledge which needs to be imparted to the caregivers; a culture of compassion and respect for the people in need has to be fostered. Even health care professionals often fall far short of the ideal on this last criterion. Preying on the weak seems to come naturally to most people. And ganging up on people who do not fit into the dark corner that they have been inescapably pushed into by "life" seems to be a fun sport. Here is something left unexplored that warrants further inquiry.
+Jean-Victor Côté I don't see how that would be a problem with this approach in particular. Why would predators not approach mentally ill people outside of the realm of this approach? If what you mean is that this would open up an opportunity for people to abuse their knowledge and prey on the ill and weak, then I can see your point, but disagree as the whole point of this is to increase the social network of support for the ill. If someone is abusive in the network, which happens in any network, they will be identified and repelled out of the system. Also when people prey on the weak they don't do it out of a lack of extra education but because they themselves are psychologically disturbed. And he did not mention all the steps of training, and as a trained medical worker, I have read his manual and found just as many lessons and rules about the ethics of this job than in my official training. Also, becoming trained in mental health care the way he describes it does not give the privilege of prescribing medication nor the right to start a licensed clinic. It simply offers 'psychological first aid' knowledge to people to help others. I simply don't see how talking about bullying and abuse of mentally ill people is in any way a problem with this approach as opposed to a problem with society as even doctors, nurses, and certified practitioners have been found to violate many laws of medical conduct and ethics.
We agree on the diagnosis of society as rife with abuse against ill or weak people. You mentioned the warnings in the training manual, but the speaker did not mention those warnings in his speech. Scapegoating is a pervasive problem, to the point that it seems to be part of the psychological makeup of most human beings. Countering this is therefore a major undertaking and should be part of any training aimed at mental health workers because of the stigma attached to those in their care, as it is from what you wrote about the training manual. You are right in pointing out the crucial role of the support network around the beneficiaries of this care that I should have noted, to which I wish to add, around the providers of this care who may need support as well from time to time.
I agree with you that society as a whole is sick, its terrible. But I dispute your statement that "no person in their right mind can adapt to it". There are plenty of ways to adapt to it- You can work with your own thoughts- choose to make them healthy rather than go along with the conditioning of the larger society. You can also gather like-minded people around you that are aware of the sickness of our society and choose not to go along with it.
The S in Sundar stands for Simplifying the message.
Can simplifying the message lead to a difference psychological diagnosis?
For example, if you are simplifying the message for depression; Are you taking away some of the symptoms of depression when you are screening a patient? Or are you changing medical jargon into layman's terms? The number of depression symptoms a patient has will effect if a person is diagnosed with major depression and hence effect their treatment for the mental illness.
Very nice Dr. Patel.
Two different things. I have seen people bring themselves out of manic depression / anxiety through willpower. It is possible to personally strengthen your own mental well-being.
Granted a lot of people apparently aren't that strong, and thus need help.
I just can't agree with the comparison with a broken-leg which you really do need to seek help.
Great
Ati Sundar
true. i'm seeing it as a new way that mental health care can be done. working with families and communities (instead of it being all about the individual going into a clinic to be fixed). these grassroots community strategies work all the time. (i'd link some examples but it's way past my bed time and you obviously have a computer and a brain to use it)
Yes, my respect for university professors has never been all that high - too separated from the real world - and recently, personal experience has caused my respect to plummet to an all-time low.
my mother arrived at a danish hospital with chest pains. She suffers from depression and was not taken seriously. She was put in a bed where she begged for something to kill the pain throughout the night. The next day they did a test and found out that she had blood clot in her heart. Their ignorance damn near killed my mother.
Pretty much. I kind of wish medication could change my anxious thoughts, though. My meds are my lifesaver. I hate it when people say that people shouldn't medicate kids. If my parents weren't as understanding about medication and mental illness, it would've become a lot worse.
For depressed people, that's more complicated. Sure it makes them "numb" but that's only because it's taking away the sadness and they haven't known how to feel anything but sad in a long time and think sad things.
Daily Sun ☀️Gazing for ~5 minute
within 2 hour window of Safe Zone, after the sunrise can help a lot in depression.
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Well this unexpectedly struck home.
Daring to care right now, for sure.
Good point, but by education, do we mean a formal degree and four years of generalised training at a specialist university, or do we mean, as Vikram is demonstrating, a little amount of custom coaching to accomplish specific goals?
5:15
Did that seem out of place?
He's not saying that you'll never walk on it again. And he's saying running, not walking. Imagine how painfull and how bad it would be for you.
Magic
Well, I actually was supposed to say "no person in their right mind can adapt to it just like that", but it seems I forgot to elaborate my claim. Thanks for setting me right.
lexapro, eat, exercise, and be thankful.
Found online, the essay by David Jacobs, Ph.D. What Do Psychiatric Drugs Do? Further Reflections on Methodology gives insight and evidence that psychiatric drugs affect the person by causing akinesia and anasognosia. This is the primary way that they work. Anasognosia: The person is rendered brain dysfunctional in such a manner that they are both mainly unaware of the brain impairment and incapable of having the previous "symptoms." Akinesia: Quote, "dampening of the entire mental life."
Isolation can cause depression as well as worse things, but sometimes you don't need a reason to be depressed. Anxiety and depression run through my family, so trust me when I tell you that there are many out there who need antidepressants. It won't change your thoughts- it will just change how you feel.
This is a good man - I don't think he even mentioned using psychoactive drugs.
It's not, not being able to do anything about it. It's finding the confidence to seek help. A key part of depression is that you have very low self esteem. You don't consider yourself worthy. You can get to the stage where you believe that if you died no one would care. Going from that how could someone with depression feel that anyone would care enough to help them?
I like the fact that Vikram is advocating assistance from ley people. I get pissed off with society's view nowadays that only professionals with a degree and ten years of training can help anybody.
you too mate
00:15
"maybe from my perspective i am normal and its the rest of the world that is crazy."
"Crazy" is such an ambiguous term that I would avoid using it and anything similar to it. I've experienced life both depressed and not depressed, and I would *never* go back to it. I know it's part of depression to not feel like doing anything about it, that's partly why it's such a big deal. But to say that you are more normal and sane depressed is absurd. You make things worse by thinking such things.
Very very open minded
The problem is that it is so easy to cause serious and permanent damage to people with mental health issues. We're talking about treating some of the most fragile people in our societies and the margin for error is very low, the consequences sometimes, very serious. His idea is phenomenal in countries where medical resources are so incredibly scarce, but professionals have a level of understanding that can greatly lessen the chances of causing more harm than good.
if the consequences are unhealthy, then yes. illnesses are detrimental.
That's your opinion. I believe that a psychiatrist has to 'create' the label for the set of symptoms a person has, to categorise them to make treatment easier. Of course some want sympathy, and some are uncertain, but they never purposely just slap anti-psychotics into anyone's hand unless there's a sign there's something wrong. But I've heard the USA gives them out "like candy": In the UK, it's not like that.
Continued...
Not necessarily any time...it would depend upon how sick the brain (like any other organ) is. This is like saying Bactene, a Bandaid and a Mother's love is always better than a splint and surgery, no matter what injury was done to the leg.
Fucking DUH. Freud had an idea about this years ago. Moreover, everyone has mental illness to varying degrees. We live in an insane world.
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Lol
How can you tell he's asleep?
I hope theres ted talk for Insomniacs/ :(
If you get depressed by the state of the World you are not ill. That is a healthy reaction. Desensitization to atrocity is the mental illness.
hello doctor i am 17 years old, i watch a lot of prank , funny , videos online and i dont know why i dont feel happy with my buddies, parents , or anyone, sometimes i feel like quitting everything, please let me know is it because of my online attatchment or what, i also get very easily upset by any little thing, i cannot cope up with bad things, even if i watch movies i get influenced everytime, my life is ruined, i want to be happy, please suggest me strong so i can get back happy and be strong in coping up with negative vibes. please reply fast
are you over it now?
HEY, PLISS SOMEONE HAVE THE VIDEO IN SPANISH?? SAY ME
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I too suffer from depression/anxiety.
It is very doable, as you said!
Yes, that also is true. Everybody knows it's peach pits. ;-)
8:57 Simplify the message. Strip off tough jargons.
UNpack the treatment
Deliver it where people are
AFFORDABLE
Reallocate Role of Capacity building & Supervision
depression is 3rd leading cause of disability.
disability = making people unable to work &/ lead normal life.
Everyone isn't informed and it's sometimes not a choice, especially in very poor neighborhoods where drug and alcohol use is expected and encouraged. I'm guessing the vast majority chose to enter that life, but that doesn't make it fair to ignore the ones who weren't given the information and discouragement we were.
He said running not walking. Walking is perfectly fine, but running? I couldn't imagine someone having a broken leg and say hey I'll run a mile.
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I'm not saying a killer should be treated the same but if we can understand the person we might be to understand who the person is to prescribe the prescription!!
6:07 ....wake up dude
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Greetings Beautiful soul! (forgive me abit i know I am not exactly what you may have come here for ..) but my name is Ibn Orator...I am an Avant-Garde, introspective Hip Hop Artist from New Haven CT. I've recently released a project titled "The Fishbowl Syndrome" that is centered around the topic of our mental health and art; how they intertwine in experience or how they are sometimes viewed here in America;to which my first debut music video "The Horse on a Trampoline" works showcase on the spectrum of my own experiences with it, that i feel fans alike of FKA twigs, Janelle Monae , EarthGang, Flying lotus, Childish Gambino or those of Bjork, Logic , Lupe Fiasco, & Reggie watts may resonate with...id like to share this with you by giving a warm welcome to my Channel to not only, like and subscribe but to comment with genuine feedback. (Please leave a comment there underneath the video and not here) as i would like for my listeners to feel welcomed to give more in thought than in clout and start a conversation which is what my subject matter is based on ..."Commentary on our shared world".In hopes that this may be fruitful to you i look forward to your response
The Horse on a Trampoline Official Music Video
ua-cam.com/video/Sol3DsWhzpA/v-deo.html
All the best
Ibn Orator
P.S. Im aware that for some us, if not all, are having a hard time this year..so id like to say that i love you very much, if you haven't heard it from anyone, and that things are about to change as they always do, for better or worse….#godspeed..
We need such shift in Ukraine now as many people are affected by the war and it's difficult to find psychological help.
I have to say from what I have read that medicines like anti-depressents, etc, have no basis of why they work, not record of success and do not work.
i think it would be a lot better to pay for people to have good lives ... like we pay for kids to get a good breakfast and lunch at school, because our industrial food system and health care system cannot deal with the results of all our other broken systems.
To use your analogy.... How does a spinal injury victim recover the use of their legs? Months of hard work, exercise and concerted, directed, effort. Yes you may have a broken leg but it won't ever be strong again if you don't walk on it. Sit down on that leg for 12 months and you may as well chop it off.
I'm aware this is the Internet, but I also suppose it's no reason to get all high and mighty, especially when one is not in the place to do so.