Awesome tones. Recently picked up a Discrete 8 and it's been a lot of fun experimenting with all of the tones and plugins available. Gotta say I'm pretty impressed with Antelope so far!
Great video, and I'd love to have a Zen for myself. One tip; I think you may have your VO gate threshold set too high, as there is noticeable ducking at the beginnings of some of your words. If you can't lower the threshold, you could muck about with the gate settings; quicker attack, longer release, etc.
Hi John, How did you get it all connected up and running? I bought one a few months ago and still cannot get it up and running using Thunderbolt 3 into my MacBook Pro (M1 Max). It's been a bloody nightmare and I'm just about to throw in the towel and right it off as a bad purchase. I would be willing to pay someone with the knowledge, such as yourself, to get it up and running in my system.
Antelope makes some of the best shit EVER. I compared the internal clock on a Yamaha PM5D to an antelope isochrone and it was mind blowing even though I was 200 feet away from the PA. Real deal shit here. And before anyone tries to tell me how using an external clock on a live console is pointless everyone at front of house heard it as well, even the booking agent said the antelope sounded better in a blind test lmao.
I have a PC with only USB 3.0 ports. I tried using a startech Thunderbolt 3 Dock with USB-c Laptop Compatibility to go from TB3 out from the ZenTour SC into the dock then out from the USB 3.0 port on the dock into the USB 3.0 port into the PC. No luck. The studio set up in Cubase Pro 10.5 was unable to switch asio drivers to the ZenTour even though it showed up in the drop down menu as a choice. Is this just impossible to do? If so, I'm going to return the equipment to Amazon. I'll just continue to use my Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 interface. Thanks for your input. Love the channel. First time visitor.
Hi John...in your chain of effects in your example at 4:58 or so, you must be using a gate of some kind...when you do breaks or stop playing it goes dead quiet, so I'm guessing there is a noise gate in there...where is that at in the Antelope unit? Thanks in advance, and thanks for doing this video...hope you and yours are well!...editing in, OK, now am at 11:15ish where you said "Let's put the gate on...". so I'm seeing what you are doing...thanks!
Awesome video John. This unit is amazing, been using one all year, albeit the older version. It runs my whole studio set up and is actually an awesome unit to use on the road for mixing and mastering as well, seeing the converters are quite nice and super high quality. It's enabled me to be working constantly whilst away from the studio. Awesome content BTW.
Hey John. Are reamp outs powerful enough to drive the amps in? I've seen some compliants that you need to break the volume up to the highest levels and even then they say reamp outs don't sound that powerful and similar to a conventional recording with guitar connected directly to the amp. Did you try those?
Hello friend I have a question, look I have a laptop and my interface is the antelope zen tour, what I would like to do since I do not have external hardware such as compressors, equalizers etc is send the signal through the spdif output and forward to the same interface to via the xlr input since the interface has rear inputs for spdif cable if I buy spdif or DB25 cable on the routed antelope zen tour, it's all I want to do to feed the signal back to feed into the circuits of the same interface and to be able to record that signal already modified to the fl studio, because I would like to know if fl the studio would allow me to do it in the first place? It is as if I tried to use the interface to pass the sounds I want or the final master of my songs through the interface and record that modified signal in my daw, if you could make a video on this topic and how to use it in the channels of daw mixer the interface as an insert to use its effects and not vst plugins in the daw, I don't know if you understand me but I would appreciate it a lot, I have been racking my head for 2 weeks with the issue of the antelope panel and routing
@@JohnBrownemonuments If you could make a video of how to route those audio signals that one wants to pass through the spdif of the antelope to route it to exit and enter through, right there the modified signal through the XLR inputs of the antelope since the cable I have is DB25 to 2ch xlr, if you could make a routing video of everything that has to do with spdif connection of antelope interfaces on the panel
It's funny you say that as soon as you can load 3rd party onto DSP chips it'll fly off the shelves....well.....Avid just released their Carbon interface at $4000 for 8 preamps, 4 headphones, 3 monitors and AAX DSP via Pro Tools! So you have to use Pro Tools, but it doesn't have to be HD, and you can only have a MAC to use it on(there is no Windows support at the moment, which will hopefully change very soon but no word on that as of yet, if not it's a HARD FUCK OFF in my book!). And from what I can gather not every single AAX plugin will work at present on it, only certain ones that are registered for it, which at present I think there are 300 something ones that work on it. But the gist is you hit the little lightning bolt button in the new darker Pro Tools 2020 non-HD/Ultimate update and it will process that on the internal 8 core's DSP chips with zero latency and blah, blah, blah. The problem is not every single AAX plugin is supported at present, it's MAC only(and Macs suck IMO), and it's $4000 for only 8 channels of preamps, when Antelopes Orion Studio Synergy is 12 for I think $2800 right now? So IDK, but like I said with the MAC only it's a HARD FUCK NO right no! Although I'm looking to upgrade very soon, and I'm Thunderbolt Windows 10 compatible so I could go UAD if I wanted or any Antelope Thunderbolt as well, which is what I'm leaning on right now, as it's the best value for the money, and although I've got the Audient 880 and go get 8 more channels of ADAT expansion that way, I'd rather not have to all the fucking time! Yes I've got a few API pre's too, and blah, blah, blah, but I don't have 14 of them all yet, and I'd rather have the option in post, or tbh during tracking to flip through all the different kinds of mic pre's without having to fuck with patch bay's and all that jazz! It's a pain in the ass, and can take a couple day's to do that, if you searching for the perfect tone and get sucked down that wormhole! It's way easier on the UAD platform if you've got all their Preamp plugins(which I did at the time of experimenting with 2xApollo8xp system...but that's about $7Grand for your system right there. Which is beyond my price point!). So Antelope is looking like my go to, however things can change within the next year so....
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Love the Variety of demos you do, especially the outboard gear .
Awesome tones. Recently picked up a Discrete 8 and it's been a lot of fun experimenting with all of the tones and plugins available. Gotta say I'm pretty impressed with Antelope so far!
Great video, and I'd love to have a Zen for myself.
One tip; I think you may have your VO gate threshold set too high, as there is noticeable ducking at the beginnings of some of your words. If you can't lower the threshold, you could muck about with the gate settings; quicker attack, longer release, etc.
Hi John,
How did you get it all connected up and running?
I bought one a few months ago and still cannot get it up and running using Thunderbolt 3 into my MacBook Pro (M1 Max). It's been a bloody nightmare and I'm just about to throw in the towel and right it off as a bad purchase.
I would be willing to pay someone with the knowledge, such as yourself, to get it up and running in my system.
John, your amazing , love your playing .
Your video intro always reminds me of older sitcoms intros with the cutaways. Lol.
You’re back!
Antelope makes some of the best shit EVER. I compared the internal clock on a Yamaha PM5D to an antelope isochrone and it was mind blowing even though I was 200 feet away from the PA. Real deal shit here. And before anyone tries to tell me how using an external clock on a live console is pointless everyone at front of house heard it as well, even the booking agent said the antelope sounded better in a blind test lmao.
what do you consider bad latency? i dont know if im just so used to it that i don't realise that extra few milliseconds is changing my playing
Anything above 10ms
I have a PC with only USB 3.0 ports. I tried using a startech Thunderbolt 3 Dock with USB-c Laptop Compatibility to go from TB3 out from the ZenTour SC into the dock then out from the USB 3.0 port on the dock into the USB 3.0 port into the PC. No luck. The studio set up in Cubase Pro 10.5 was unable to switch asio drivers to the ZenTour even though it showed up in the drop down menu as a choice. Is this just impossible to do? If so, I'm going to return the equipment to Amazon. I'll just continue to use my Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 interface. Thanks for your input. Love the channel. First time visitor.
You look like you've been on the sesh for a week 😂.
I think a takeaway is calling your name.
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Hi John...in your chain of effects in your example at 4:58 or so, you must be using a gate of some kind...when you do breaks or stop playing it goes dead quiet, so I'm guessing there is a noise gate in there...where is that at in the Antelope unit? Thanks in advance, and thanks for doing this video...hope you and yours are well!...editing in, OK, now am at 11:15ish where you said "Let's put the gate on...". so I'm seeing what you are doing...thanks!
Mr Browne be safe , thanks for beautiful content during my covid illnes.
They say nothing runs like a deer👨🏼🌾 but this Antelope can Rock 🎸🤘🏽
Woah there, is that an Axe Fx I spy in the rack? Have your thoughts on Fractal changed much after checking it out?
Awesome video John. This unit is amazing, been using one all year, albeit the older version. It runs my whole studio set up and is actually an awesome unit to use on the road for mixing and mastering as well, seeing the converters are quite nice and super high quality. It's enabled me to be working constantly whilst away from the studio.
Awesome content BTW.
Hey John. Are reamp outs powerful enough to drive the amps in? I've seen some compliants that you need to break the volume up to the highest levels and even then they say reamp outs don't sound that powerful and similar to a conventional recording with guitar connected directly to the amp. Did you try those?
curious what those guitar tones would sound like in a full mix vs a real mic'd amp/cab
Man I love your use of add 9 chords, is there a reason we don’t here them much in monuments music??
I love mine!
Hello friend I have a question, look I have a laptop and my interface is the antelope zen tour, what I would like to do since I do not have external hardware such as compressors, equalizers etc is send the signal through the spdif output and forward to the same interface to via the xlr input since the interface has rear inputs for spdif cable if I buy spdif or DB25 cable on the routed antelope zen tour, it's all I want to do to feed the signal back to feed into the circuits of the same interface and to be able to record that signal already modified to the fl studio, because I would like to know if fl the studio would allow me to do it in the first place? It is as if I tried to use the interface to pass the sounds I want or the final master of my songs through the interface and record that modified signal in my daw, if you could make a video on this topic and how to use it in the channels of daw mixer the interface as an insert to use its effects and not vst plugins in the daw, I don't know if you understand me but I would appreciate it a lot, I have been racking my head for 2 weeks with the issue of the antelope panel and routing
Dude, you can do this with AFX2DAW
@@JohnBrownemonuments If you could make a video of how to route those audio signals that one wants to pass through the spdif of the antelope to route it to exit and enter through, right there the modified signal through the XLR inputs of the antelope since the cable I have is DB25 to 2ch xlr, if you could make a routing video of everything that has to do with spdif connection of antelope interfaces on the panel
It's funny you say that as soon as you can load 3rd party onto DSP chips it'll fly off the shelves....well.....Avid just released their Carbon interface at $4000 for 8 preamps, 4 headphones, 3 monitors and AAX DSP via Pro Tools! So you have to use Pro Tools, but it doesn't have to be HD, and you can only have a MAC to use it on(there is no Windows support at the moment, which will hopefully change very soon but no word on that as of yet, if not it's a HARD FUCK OFF in my book!). And from what I can gather not every single AAX plugin will work at present on it, only certain ones that are registered for it, which at present I think there are 300 something ones that work on it. But the gist is you hit the little lightning bolt button in the new darker Pro Tools 2020 non-HD/Ultimate update and it will process that on the internal 8 core's DSP chips with zero latency and blah, blah, blah. The problem is not every single AAX plugin is supported at present, it's MAC only(and Macs suck IMO), and it's $4000 for only 8 channels of preamps, when Antelopes Orion Studio Synergy is 12 for I think $2800 right now? So IDK, but like I said with the MAC only it's a HARD FUCK NO right no! Although I'm looking to upgrade very soon, and I'm Thunderbolt Windows 10 compatible so I could go UAD if I wanted or any Antelope Thunderbolt as well, which is what I'm leaning on right now, as it's the best value for the money, and although I've got the Audient 880 and go get 8 more channels of ADAT expansion that way, I'd rather not have to all the fucking time! Yes I've got a few API pre's too, and blah, blah, blah, but I don't have 14 of them all yet, and I'd rather have the option in post, or tbh during tracking to flip through all the different kinds of mic pre's without having to fuck with patch bay's and all that jazz! It's a pain in the ass, and can take a couple day's to do that, if you searching for the perfect tone and get sucked down that wormhole! It's way easier on the UAD platform if you've got all their Preamp plugins(which I did at the time of experimenting with 2xApollo8xp system...but that's about $7Grand for your system right there. Which is beyond my price point!). So Antelope is looking like my go to, however things can change within the next year so....
Thanks for this man! No One else has done this, and I was super curious, so for me this a great video!!!!!