I looked at the OSL videos you have on your channel and they are pretty sweet but I really like how this green came out on the biker. I'd love to see a full video explaining on you got this exact effect!
Marco, I for one agree with your barely contained inner desire for a whole army in the grimdark style. And I think everyone else here also would agree too. Great video and model, as always!
I imagine deciding to do full blown weathering like this is a turning point for going from a good painter to a great painter... The thought of having a pretty much perfectly painted mini, to then "ruin" it by purposefully making it not look perfect is a scary one xD
I admit that's a scary stage! In the first part you give up a good part of the control you have on the paint job looking for happy accidents from the natural physical behaviour of the paint. Then you have to regain full control adjusting every detail!
Just started a new grimdark project and your observation on the style at the end was absolutely incredible and perfect for me to reexamine my approach. Thank you! Always great stuff!
Fantastic!!! And boom new ideas for my indomitus chaplain I just finished acrylics on 🙌 love that you keep the shine and color while making It GrimDark 💀👍😍
As usually an amazing work! I am always amazed how well you can mix colors to achieve totaly different tones that I would never expect as the end result. Hmm, there is a grim dark style, there is a bike and the chaplain.. Somewhat Dark Angel'ish, so... should I call it even or should I abuse you more on the topic? Hah! As I think to myself I have to agree with what Moe Harley wrote in the earlier comment - I would love to watch your attempt on grim dark Ghazghkull Traka too! Such a lovely model, you would do wonders with him. Great job!
Hey man. I've been binge watching your videos. I am really enjoying them. I love the way the video's are formatted in an educational and fun way. Keep up the good work.
At this point it's easier to name the paint brands Marco didn't use, here's what I counted: Molotow ONE4ALL, Vallejo Metal Colour & Acrylic Colors, Liquitex Ink, Golden High Flow, Citadel Contrast, Scale 75, Abteilung 502 Oils , Winsor & Newton Winton Oils, AK Interactive Metallic, Kimera
Every time I watch one of Marco's videos I can't help but picture in my mind him throwing up his hands and yelling HEYYYYYY BUDDY, WHATSA MADDA FOR YOU!!! Yeah I know, I'm a dummy. Still, that image in my mind brings a smile to my face.
I recently came across Abteilung502 Engingen Grease and by good this stuff is awesome. I use it as a wash and filter for my Iron Hands. It has the perfect look.
Awesome work again! I would love to see how you would paint a Mortarion with a Poisonous Cloud tone from Army Painter for his armour and especially which colors and which technique you would use on hin wings! :-) Greetings from Germany!
man, so good. I still struggle so much on my last steps of volume definition, where to place edge highlights, which to do, which to ignore, what colors to use, i always end up half too bright and half too dark, and none of the colors feel completely right for the highlight. i could spend a week at a texture/final highlighting class.
The model looks fantastic, awesome work dude! I really love the difference in finish being part of the overall contrast to the model. You mentioned AK's heavy body metal acrylics and I have to recommend their True Metallic line. It's a wax based paint that can be buffed to a high shine. It can be painted on thick too and create amazing texture, like impasto techniques. It interacts with enamels and oils great, blending weathering effects into the metal really well. I guess cause it sort of is an oil paint, just contains less saturated fats making the oil solid at room temp instead of liquid. Cold wax paints are a whole rabbit hole to jump down which I think you'd find fascinating if you haven't already seen it. The pigment is not as fine as Alclad but perhaps a little finer than Vallejo Metal Colour. VMC and True Metal are my go tos for nearly everything I do.
I'm dipping into this grimdark painting style a bit, and found that my brain have an easy time doing this for sci-fi / wh40k but it's a different story with fantasy. Soooo if you found yourself wanting to do a knight, squire or an ork at some time in you Blanchitzu style it would be awesome ;)
Finally a video on tmm black! Love it. Although correct me if I'm wrong, while I found your underpainting really helpful to understand the concept you wanted to follow in this paintjob, I really struggle to see that yellow to blue gradient of light in the final pictures. Maybe it's just the camera, but if the "only" thing you get from that is a slightly more interesting black that gets overpowered by all the weathering and osl in the end anyways, what's even the point of that elaborate under paint?
Thank you much for creating this wonderful videos and sharing your skill and knowledge. I am not very long into miniature painting and have a short question. As an acrylics canvas painter I was taught never ever to use acrylics over oil paints. Since you use mostly your oils for washes how long have they to dry until it is save to use acrylics over them?
I find strange to weather the model before the highlights, OSL... I is know that weathering is the last step. The finished model is impresive 😍, thank you for the video.
Well, if you think about it this is a more logical layering of events; highlights are the highest lights of and even weathering should have that kind of modulation to render the sensation of the volumes underneath (otherwise it just tones down everything killing every contrast). External lights and OSL even in real life are the last thing hitting an object and they envelope everything in their colour: basic material, textures, dust and grime... They are all UNDER the light! (Light don't get dusty 😅)
Sensei Marco, any tips/pointers on how one could paint the upcoming Cursed City minis to match the box art? I love the black/red/white, but am a loss on how to achieve that.
Another excellent video! Thank you Marco :) But I don't understand one thing: You have put so much work with the environmental lights in the beginning but except for the exhaust pipe I don't see any of those colors on the finished model. Is this just an issue of the video? I am working on my first 40k army (Orkz of course!) and want to do them in a somewhat "clean", detailed grim dark style.
I was asking myself the same question. Where is the Red-blue / Orange-Yellow contrast from the beginning gone to ? ^^' Might have to be the fact that we see it on video and not real life.. But from what i can see, all the paint coverage just made those layers completely dissapear :/, or my eye is just not trained enough yet.
I think it modulated the black and made it less boring in the end, but because of its glossiness it's very hard to see on the camera as it can't capture the whole dynamic range between bright bouncing lights and subtle variations in the very dark black.
Sadly the video/camera can't really get the visual complexity of that layering and what gives you in person especially when you actively move the model in your hands, but everything is still there!
You.mention applying this army wide at the end of thr video, would you keep the light sources from the same directions for the entire force or move them around for variation? Thanks for all the content.
Hi Marco. First may I say what a massively talented artist you are. I found your channel while looking for a review of scale 75 artist paint and have become hooked. The Zorn pallet got me thinking about my own modelling which is generally 35th scale armour with the odd figure, so much so that I brought your recommended colours along with a few others. along with watching your colour theory videos. I feel ready to tackle a figure. Please could you recommend a single figure (not to small as advancing years makes the eyes wonkie lol). Also do you plan any work shops this year. Thank you keep up the fantasic work, Kind regards Ian
hey marco, i remember watching one of your videos where you have a couple of books with a ton of reference material that you use for inspiration/direction - what are they again??
The underpainting is not covered but layered in transparency with the black. As I said in the video the camera struggles in catching the chromatic complexity of the black armour but when you move the model around all the sensation as still there!
I like to do highlights with oil paints and blending, I know you don't varnish but think it might be a good idea to do that after my highlights so I can add weathering after?
Oh yeah, if you are using the same kind of paint for the two stages you need to protect the first layer that's sensible and re activated by the same tinner/solvent
Question: Inks are kinda fragile right after you paint, even a wet brush can remove the ink layer. But you apply the oil directly to the ink without varnish. How long do you wait before applying oils on top of the ink layer?
Amazing stuff as always mate! Do you have any more information on your drying box? Having used oil paints on mini’s myself, without the use of white spirit... it can take several days to dry?!
Would you recommend getting the Abteilung 502 stuff instead of the W&N Winton line for a person who wants to branch out to oils from acrylics? Mainly for 1/35 figures and 1/10 busts. I see the Abteilung dividing opinions greatly. People seem to either love it or hate it. Thank you!
Nice, informative video. Question: what are your thoughts on Abteilung oil pains for painting minis (not just weathering)? How do they compare to Windsor paints?
Thanks! Artist oils are more versatile but AK oils are a bit more beginner friendly; they are incredibly good for general weathering and specific weathering effects but for proper full oil painting I prefer high grade artist oils
Hi Marco! Love your videos and the way that you inspire me to try new techniques. I have a litte problem when it comes to white ink(liquitex) on black primer(vallejo or the same molotov you use) when using contrast on it it reactivates the white ink sometimes and it just get all smoshed upp together and the black under reapears. Have you ever experieanced this? If so what do you do not to make it happen? Keep up the good work and I cant wait for your next video!
They are all there! The camera didn't do justice to the depth of the transparent black but all those colours are there adding tones and new complex sensations
Bravo, Marco! I really like the technique of applying ink as a filter over metallic paint (I got some duraluminium after seeing you use it in a previous video, and have fallen in love with it), but I am having a little trouble getting the right consistency for the ink when applying it with a brush (I don't have an airbrush). Do you have any tips for how to thin the ink, or is it just a case of adding the right amount of water and practising until I get it right?
Another question: you applied transparent inks directly to the metal to create the light from the scene, but I could not see any of the light effects you created after the black paint. Is just that we can't see that in the video, and you can still see it in person? Or is my monitor just that bad? :D
I looked at the OSL videos you have on your channel and they are pretty sweet but I really like how this green came out on the biker. I'd love to see a full video explaining on you got this exact effect!
This is another 12 game changing tips in one video. Honestly, it's crazy how packed with good content this is.
I feel like his video greetings "Hellllllllooooooooo" lifts my soul.
"Grimdark is not an excuse to be lazy on the elements." YES! Louder for the people in the back! 👏👏👏
Hell's bells, that Chaplain is super dramatic. Your brush control is magical to watch.
Love your accent! And a fantastic work of art...not once did it even have a rubbish phase! Looked great from base-start to end!
Best high energy intro ever ❤
😁🤣😁
That oil work is very brave after all that detailed work.
Marco, I for one agree with your barely contained inner desire for a whole army in the grimdark style. And I think everyone else here also would agree too. Great video and model, as always!
15:51 good idea, I need to make one of those
Marco, you are a painting genius. I'm super greatful for how you explain your techniques and introduce elements from more classical art mediums.
15:15 the capillary application of those cadian tones is genius
Necrons! Marco, we're waiting for the Necrones painting video ;)
Yes please!!!
I imagine deciding to do full blown weathering like this is a turning point for going from a good painter to a great painter... The thought of having a pretty much perfectly painted mini, to then "ruin" it by purposefully making it not look perfect is a scary one xD
I admit that's a scary stage! In the first part you give up a good part of the control you have on the paint job looking for happy accidents from the natural physical behaviour of the paint. Then you have to regain full control adjusting every detail!
Great video, loved the effects. I'm a big fan of inks and oils too, so your style really appeals to me.
Once more, I'm blown away. Currently in the midst of pondering how to go about painting my Deathwatch army. How timely ...
Stunning Marco. Just what I've been after too. Cheers mate!
Here I was wondering how to paint my guys in black TMM backlit by a red sky advancing into the cold night, and Marco delivers. Fantastic as ever.
Just started a new grimdark project and your observation on the style at the end was absolutely incredible and perfect for me to reexamine my approach. Thank you! Always great stuff!
HELLO RIGHT BACK AT YA!! Makes my heart smile everytime
Fantastic!!! And boom new ideas for my indomitus chaplain I just finished acrylics on 🙌 love that you keep the shine and color while making It GrimDark 💀👍😍
Excellent, for the Emperor!
*AWE* Indeed, what a temptation!
I love 90s art work for 40k and Warhammer Fantasy...Im personally going to try paint my Chaos Warriors with Frank Frazetta.
Incredible talent
😊😍😊😘
Love this model - even better if it gets the Marco treatment!
It's my favorite "Hello guys !" by far ! :-D :-D
Huge fan of your work, great video, just thank you :-)
Perfect! Perfect! Perfect! I just finished my conversion of a chaplain biker 😁😁
As usually an amazing work! I am always amazed how well you can mix colors to achieve totaly different tones that I would never expect as the end result.
Hmm, there is a grim dark style, there is a bike and the chaplain.. Somewhat Dark Angel'ish, so... should I call it even or should I abuse you more on the topic? Hah!
As I think to myself I have to agree with what Moe Harley wrote in the earlier comment - I would love to watch your attempt on grim dark Ghazghkull Traka too! Such a lovely model, you would do wonders with him.
Great job!
Hey man. I've been binge watching your videos. I am really enjoying them. I love the way the video's are formatted in an educational and fun way. Keep up the good work.
Time to repaint all my Black Legion! So much good stuff in here.
Good work.
Fantastic work
Yes!!! :) My GF is getting me some oil paints for my birthday in a couple of weeks :-)
Most of them came today! the rest will be here later in the week :-D
Thanks Marco! I just bought the indomitus Chaplain from ebay for no other reason than I liked it. I'll use my Tamiya smoke for the transparent black.
This is seriously some epic stuff my man!
The metallic bits combined with inks literally blew my mind.
At this point it's easier to name the paint brands Marco didn't use, here's what I counted: Molotow ONE4ALL, Vallejo Metal Colour & Acrylic Colors, Liquitex Ink, Golden High Flow, Citadel Contrast, Scale 75, Abteilung 502 Oils , Winsor & Newton Winton Oils, AK Interactive Metallic, Kimera
He's an addict
you sir are a genius!
That chaplain is looking amazing marco!
Every time I watch one of Marco's videos I can't help but picture in my mind him throwing up his hands and yelling HEYYYYYY BUDDY, WHATSA MADDA FOR YOU!!! Yeah I know, I'm a dummy. Still, that image in my mind brings a smile to my face.
Aka ghost rider!!!! Nice work ⚒
This is unbelievably good!
Marco, that was crazy good! I love metallics and I don't why everybody is always talking about NMM.
Always love seeing a new video, your process always gives me new ideas!
Any plans make anymore videos on 3d printing? 😬
Wonderful
Amazing as always! I can't wait to see your take on grimdark Blood Angels assuming it's something you want to do at some point.
Thanks!!! Oh yeah, for sure, they are one of my favourite chapters 😉 I need only the right model
Job well done Marco!!!
Amazing work Marco!
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
I recently came across Abteilung502 Engingen Grease and by good this stuff is awesome. I use it as a wash and filter for my Iron Hands. It has the perfect look.
Oh damn, I really wanna see you painting Ghazghkull
Awesome work again! I would love to see how you would paint a Mortarion with a Poisonous Cloud tone from Army Painter for his armour and especially which colors and which technique you would use on hin wings! :-)
Greetings from Germany!
Copy the the request. Would like to See it too.
Great video i am now tempted to use oils
I see a marco video, I hit like, then I watch.
Never disappoints 👌🏻
man, so good. I still struggle so much on my last steps of volume definition, where to place edge highlights, which to do, which to ignore, what colors to use, i always end up half too bright and half too dark, and none of the colors feel completely right for the highlight. i could spend a week at a texture/final highlighting class.
At first glance I thought you had painted ghost rider. Very nicely done. Thank you.
Amazing, I can't stop watching the video again and again. I'll apply it to my deathwatch Bois!
The model looks fantastic, awesome work dude! I really love the difference in finish being part of the overall contrast to the model.
You mentioned AK's heavy body metal acrylics and I have to recommend their True Metallic line. It's a wax based paint that can be buffed to a high shine. It can be painted on thick too and create amazing texture, like impasto techniques. It interacts with enamels and oils great, blending weathering effects into the metal really well. I guess cause it sort of is an oil paint, just contains less saturated fats making the oil solid at room temp instead of liquid. Cold wax paints are a whole rabbit hole to jump down which I think you'd find fascinating if you haven't already seen it. The pigment is not as fine as Alclad but perhaps a little finer than Vallejo Metal Colour. VMC and True Metal are my go tos for nearly everything I do.
I want Marcos intro as a ringtone.
Yesssss Give in to Temptations
Maybe one of your best work in grimdark style,constant improvment !
Do you fix the figure on a wood base for a museum style after some time ?
lookes sick!
Brutal job! 👍👍
great art work... i love your painting sessions... yet, still waiting for a mecha build from you:( please!!!!
Can you please do a TMM Word Bearers chaos marine?!?!? I'm interested to see your take on them!
I'm dipping into this grimdark painting style a bit, and found that my brain have an easy time doing this for sci-fi / wh40k but it's a different story with fantasy. Soooo if you found yourself wanting to do a knight, squire or an ork at some time in you Blanchitzu style it would be awesome ;)
Fan-flipin-tastic sir.
Finally a video on tmm black! Love it. Although correct me if I'm wrong, while I found your underpainting really helpful to understand the concept you wanted to follow in this paintjob, I really struggle to see that yellow to blue gradient of light in the final pictures. Maybe it's just the camera, but if the "only" thing you get from that is a slightly more interesting black that gets overpowered by all the weathering and osl in the end anyways, what's even the point of that elaborate under paint?
2:24
Sorry but do you know what black he used here for the base layer?
I can't make out what he says.
@@johnoneill3654 That's Molotow Black I think. He uses it quite frequently :D
@@MrPizzamoe
Legend, thank you 👍
Ah, grazie Marco! Ci voleva proprio
Awsome Work! 👍👍👍
Thank you much for creating this wonderful videos and sharing your skill and knowledge. I am not very long into miniature painting and have a short question. As an acrylics canvas painter I was taught never ever to use acrylics over oil paints. Since you use mostly your oils for washes how long have they to dry until it is save to use acrylics over them?
Nice to see this right as I get back into painting some Templar lol
Great vid!
I find strange to weather the model before the highlights, OSL... I is know that weathering is the last step. The finished model is impresive 😍, thank you for the video.
Well, if you think about it this is a more logical layering of events; highlights are the highest lights of and even weathering should have that kind of modulation to render the sensation of the volumes underneath (otherwise it just tones down everything killing every contrast). External lights and OSL even in real life are the last thing hitting an object and they envelope everything in their colour: basic material, textures, dust and grime... They are all UNDER the light! (Light don't get dusty 😅)
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM you are right, thank you for the info 😊
Sensei Marco, any tips/pointers on how one could paint the upcoming Cursed City minis to match the box art? I love the black/red/white, but am a loss on how to achieve that.
Perfect timing! I'm going to paint and film the whole box 😁😊😁
You are making me speechless 😍
Another excellent video! Thank you Marco :)
But I don't understand one thing: You have put so much work with the environmental lights in the beginning but except for the exhaust pipe I don't see any of those colors on the finished model. Is this just an issue of the video?
I am working on my first 40k army (Orkz of course!) and want to do them in a somewhat "clean", detailed grim dark style.
Yeh I would like to know the same thing. After that black went on I was like wtf. Where has everything gone lol.
I was asking myself the same question. Where is the Red-blue / Orange-Yellow contrast from the beginning gone to ? ^^'
Might have to be the fact that we see it on video and not real life.. But from what i can see, all the paint coverage just made those layers completely dissapear :/, or my eye is just not trained enough yet.
I think it modulated the black and made it less boring in the end, but because of its glossiness it's very hard to see on the camera as it can't capture the whole dynamic range between bright bouncing lights and subtle variations in the very dark black.
Sadly the video/camera can't really get the visual complexity of that layering and what gives you in person especially when you actively move the model in your hands, but everything is still there!
You.mention applying this army wide at the end of thr video, would you keep the light sources from the same directions for the entire force or move them around for variation? Thanks for all the content.
Hey Marco, Im wondering what is meant by Inside/out volumes at 2:45. Thanks!
I'm kinda sad you skipped the OSL. Those techniques really never bore me.
Marco, it's time to embrace some scale modelling techniques and paint us a grimdark Land Raider
Hi Marco.
First may I say what a massively talented artist you are.
I found your channel while looking for a review of scale 75 artist paint and have become hooked. The Zorn pallet got me thinking about my own modelling which is generally 35th scale armour with the odd figure, so much so that I brought your recommended colours along with a few others. along with watching your colour theory videos. I feel ready to tackle a figure. Please could you recommend a single figure (not to small as advancing years makes the eyes wonkie lol). Also do you plan any work shops this year. Thank you keep up the fantasic work, Kind regards Ian
hey marco, i remember watching one of your videos where you have a couple of books with a ton of reference material that you use for inspiration/direction - what are they again??
Hi! I think you are talking about Spectrum; one volume every year with the best of contemporary fantasy and sci-fi art 😊
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thank you marco!! :D
ciao Marco! is it possible to share us your setup for recording sessions?
Perhaps I missed a step in the explanation. What is the purpose of the colored inks if you cover them up with black immediately after?
The underpainting is not covered but layered in transparency with the black. As I said in the video the camera struggles in catching the chromatic complexity of the black armour but when you move the model around all the sensation as still there!
I like to do highlights with oil paints and blending, I know you don't varnish but think it might be a good idea to do that after my highlights so I can add weathering after?
Oh yeah, if you are using the same kind of paint for the two stages you need to protect the first layer that's sensible and re activated by the same tinner/solvent
Question: Inks are kinda fragile right after you paint, even a wet brush can remove the ink layer. But you apply the oil directly to the ink without varnish.
How long do you wait before applying oils on top of the ink layer?
Amazing stuff as always mate!
Do you have any more information on your drying box? Having used oil paints on mini’s myself, without the use of white spirit... it can take several days to dry?!
Thanks! I have a whole video about the box 😁ua-cam.com/video/Qi5nIwvgzhw/v-deo.html
thnx ..so good ..:)
Epic
Plot twist 12:20 this is filmed at regular speed but Marco activated his secret ultrasonic mixing paintjutzu tecnique
LOL!!!
Would you recommend getting the Abteilung 502 stuff instead of the W&N Winton line for a person who wants to branch out to oils from acrylics? Mainly for 1/35 figures and 1/10 busts. I see the Abteilung dividing opinions greatly. People seem to either love it or hate it.
Thank you!
I think you past me while I was waiting for a bus in Dublin the other day, by the time I realised it was you, you were already gone 😂
Nice, informative video. Question: what are your thoughts on Abteilung oil pains for painting minis (not just weathering)? How do they compare to Windsor paints?
Thanks! Artist oils are more versatile but AK oils are a bit more beginner friendly; they are incredibly good for general weathering and specific weathering effects but for proper full oil painting I prefer high grade artist oils
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks Marco, very helpful
Hi Marco! Love your videos and the way that you inspire me to try new techniques. I have a litte problem when it comes to white ink(liquitex) on black primer(vallejo or the same molotov you use) when using contrast on it it reactivates the white ink sometimes and it just get all smoshed upp together and the black under reapears. Have you ever experieanced this? If so what do you do not to make it happen? Keep up the good work and I cant wait for your next video!
I'm so confused about what any of those initial airbrush colors did if you ended up spraying black over the top of all of them anyway?
They are all there! The camera didn't do justice to the depth of the transparent black but all those colours are there adding tones and new complex sensations
Wow very impressive work, I was wondering what is the stuff that you painted on top of the weapon before the green osl?
It's the verdigris oil paint!
Alright, Marco, how long for this masterpiece? 7mins? 😂😂😂
Bravo, Marco! I really like the technique of applying ink as a filter over metallic paint (I got some duraluminium after seeing you use it in a previous video, and have fallen in love with it), but I am having a little trouble getting the right consistency for the ink when applying it with a brush (I don't have an airbrush). Do you have any tips for how to thin the ink, or is it just a case of adding the right amount of water and practising until I get it right?
Another question: you applied transparent inks directly to the metal to create the light from the scene, but I could not see any of the light effects you created after the black paint.
Is just that we can't see that in the video, and you can still see it in person? Or is my monitor just that bad? :D
I thought absolutely the same... Minute 4:50 does not matter at all.