This is fun! We have some similarities. Here's my list for my account Already have: Fu Xuan, Huo Huo, Jiaoqiu, Clara, Bronya, Yanqing Must Have: Robin, Acheron Considering: Topaz Not pulling: everybody else xD
I'm in the same situation with Sparkle. Back when her first banner, I roll for her and got her on hard pity. Just to find out the meta change to Break/Sup. Break and now Fua 😂. I don't find any character to use her with. Hope they release more character that she can synergize with.
If you like Sparkle and want to use her, I recommend Imbibitor Lunae. Although the meta has shifted I believe he is still strong enough to brute force his way through most fights.
Maybe next time you could add a "Pulling for Eidelons" tier. It's not really relevant for the 5-Stars. But a lot of 4-Star have really strong Eidelons, which could make a banner worth consideration if one or two of them are featured. Gallagher, Xueyi, and Asta for example all have multiple really good Eidelons.
I know this is HSR, but had to tell you I had enough for one 10 pull on Genshin and pulled a 5 star......you know where this is going.....Qiqi. Nice thumbnail btw
the thing about qiqi is that shes probably going to be S tier once capitano is released, both cryo for resonance, and she can apply a lot of cryo to react with electro and create superconduct. Capitano is also most likely a cryo physical dps who will most likely work really really good with either furina or by himself (dmg% scaling with hp lost or gain)
I would look and see if you have any good alternatives to her signature LN, if you do, then E1 would probably be better. If not then probably go for the LN. Hope this helps!
I personally would recommend pulling for other characters. Power is temporary, but anime jpg are eternal ^^ But if you need a few recommendation for LC alternatives, I have some. Her best 4-Star lightcone would be "For Tomorrows Journey". But that is an event light cone so you might not have it if you didnt play during the event. "Poised to Bloom" would be the next best, even if your team doesnt meet the [two of the same path] requirement the light cone is still really good. "Planetary Rendezvous" and "Memories of the Past" would also be good options. I hope this helps ^^
I think Loucha is a surprising choice. Between all the limited 5* sustain(preservation and abundance), I think Luocha is the worst one in my opinion. I think Aventurine would be the best one as he gives shield from his skill that can stack, plus give effect RES to all allies with shield and he can do aoe follow-up attack often. Another opinion of mine is Welt would be a considering choice. He would be useful to have as his technique and ult debuff is really useful as it prevents enemies from taking action. I don't think anyone can delay enemies as often as him. Also, for enemies like that annoying temple thing that deals DMG and have percentage raise when you attack with skill or use ult and when it happens 3 times, it's toughness will be blocked, if you have Welt and it gets caught in the technique and ult cc, its percentage won't be raised when you attack with skill or ult. As for my list of must have and considering: - Must Have: Boothill / Firefly / Feixiao (Any of these cuz I lack DPS limited 5* unit) - Really Considering: Aventurine, Topaz
That's a really solid must have list! Thanks for your input, I was originally considering Loucha for my Jingliu team since she drains her teams hp (not by much) but I should probably look more into Adventurine. Thanks for the heads up!
While I agree that Luocha ranks the lowers as a limited Stustain Unit, I always feel it is a bit unfair to call him "the worst". He is by no means weak and in certain situation where he will perform better. For example the ape with his charge punch. I find that he will completly deplete Aventurine shield and sometimes even do considerble Health damage which Aventurine can recover, and Aventurine needs to spam his skill so that the shield is at full strength to take the next hit. Lucha with his strong single target heals of Fu Xuan would perform better in this situation. But still, I would place Luocha after Aventurine, Fu Xuan and Huohuo. But that doesnt make Luocha weak.
@@1MorePull I would say for JL, maybe go with Huohuo. That's who I'm using to sustain my JL. And with her ult, she can give energy Regen, good for getting JL and their allies ult faster, and with the healing overtime too. So, she's a good choice
@@deafwatch7334 With the current meta, he is the worst tho as he provides nothing except from healing. Although he's not bad, the things he provided is not as much as other limited 5* sustains. - His ult just deals DMG and remove buffs from enemies(which is useful in some case, but not really needed most of the time). - His skill gives one instance of healing and removes one debuff, the usual healer stuffs. It has a chance to trigger passively when an ally has low HP, but then it has a cool down for over 2 turns. - His talent is nice, but the heal only happens when allies attack and it doesn't have any cleanse, so against enemies that inflicts lots DoT, allies might sustain a high amount of DMG or get knocked out before Luocha's turn or his passive skill cool down is up. On the other hand: - Huohuo: Provides splash healing and healing overtime at the start of allies turn and when allies ult for two turns of Huohuo, while also able to cleanse 6 debuffs with an activation of her skill. SP would be manageable unless you go against enemies inflicted lots of DoT, but would still be very helpful to the team. Plus, her ult provides attack buff and gives energy Regen to the teams, resulting in quicker ult, which is really good for a lot characters. - Fu Xuan: Although her kit is a bit unique as it reduces DMG received rather than provided shield or heal, but that is strong enough to make her good. Her skill increases allies max HP equal to a percentage of her HP and increase CRIT rate, making the allies CRIT chance higher. It also distribute 65% of allies DMG to her, which will help keeping allies alive longer. Although it's a bit tricky to tell when the skill will end, you can see when it is about to end when the symbol she created on the ground starts blinking. As for her talent, it reduces the DMG of taken for the whole team by 18%, which is really good. Plus, upon FX HP falling below 50%, she will consume a trigger count and heals 90% of her missing HP, which also keeps her alive. This won't be an issue at all unless it's lvl difference. And her ult, it deals DMG to all enemies and also heals all allies for a bit, while also granting a trigger count for her talent effect. - And Aventurine, with his build oy requiring SPD and high defence, he's easy to build, and you wouldn't need to spam his skill much at all. His skill provides lots of shield and unless the enemies only attacks one ally, it won't be easily depleted at all. And since the shield is stackable, when he uses his skill again, the allies that weren't hit will have higher shield. And when each shielded allies are being attacked or does follow-up attack up to 3 times, Aven gains a stack and when his stack reaches 7, he will unleash a decent followup attack to all enemies while also applying more shield, which is great. And with his ult, he does a DMG to one enemy while inflicting debuff for the enemy to receive more CRIT DMG, which is nice for CRIT DPS, while also granting a random amount of his stack, resulting in more chance to follow-up attack and more shield providing, which would mean he won't need to spam shield much after all. also, his talent grants 50% effect RES as well, which is high chance to resist cc
@@crow3769 "But still, I would place Luocha after Aventurine, Fu Xuan and Huohuo. But that doesnt make Luocha weak." You dont need to convince me that they are better than Luocha. I just meant to say that Loucha isnt weak. You didnt say that in your original post. But for me I always comes across like that if you call someone "the worst". Also, one thing. As someone who has Aventurine, dont build SPD on him. Just stack DEF as high as possible. One of his bonus abbilities lets him replensh his shield when he uses his follow up attack. And he get his follow up attack from enemies attacking his shields. So as long as your shields are strong enouth you wont ever need to use his skill. So just stack DEF for stronger shields.
For Fun, here is my Tier list Must Have: - Really Consider Kafka, Fu Xuan, Huohuo, Robin, Boothill Consider Silver Wolf, Seele, Yanqing, Argenti, Jade Not Interested Luocha, Jing Yuan, Blade, Jingliu, DH IL, Jiaqiu, Yunli, Ruan Mei, Sparkle, Hook As you can see from the apsense of any Must Have Characters im quite happy with the state of my account. Really considering Im mostly character that would work well with other character (like Kafka with Black Swan) and I like on a purely character level. Considering are character I would be interested in building. Like trying to make the underdog Yanqing work, or building up Seele so she can oneshot minions and do the "Oh look! Its my turn again!" routine. In Not Interested are character that I am not interested both on the gameplay and character level. But that doesnt mean that they will never end up on my account. Aventurine for examle was in the Not interested Tier, but still sneaked himself on my account because Luka was on his banner. And Luka didnt want to show up for 50 pulls and then brought Aventurine with him. But now that I have him, I like Aventurine a lot, so other character in that tier might share the same fate in the future.
I really like that train of thought, I am also pretty happy with the state of my account (after I get Robin). It might be nice to just work on improving the characters I have for awhile and not worry about getting anyone else.
@best4u787 Yes and No. She would be the best partner for Firefly. But then it would be [Firefly | Harmony MC | Ruan Mei | Gallagher] forever, and I think thats just boring. Im having a lot more fun by trying out new team mates. How about a break March as Sub-DPS? Or Himeko and Xueyi? What about Pela as a debuffer in that 3rd Slot? Team building is so much more interesting because I dont have Ruan Mei. And that is why I dont want her.
@@1MorePull I think is refering to your critique of the hunt path. You say Hunt cant take out the minions they summon, which is overall a weakness of the Hunt path. Seele is a little exeption to that. Her talent lets her take another turn when she kills an enemy and also buffs the damage for the next Attack by around 40%. So seele is unique in that she actively wants weak minions on the field that she can oneshot so she can attack the boss with a juicy buff.
‘Hope robin doesn’t come back soon’ will that aged poorly, btw the new march 7th lc works really good on robin
I just had to say something.....
This is fun! We have some similarities. Here's my list for my account
Already have: Fu Xuan, Huo Huo, Jiaoqiu, Clara, Bronya, Yanqing
Must Have: Robin, Acheron
Considering: Topaz
Not pulling: everybody else xD
Thats some really solid must haves!
Man is goig to have very interesting opinions of loucha and blade once he gets them 😂
Louha seems to be inevitable, I will get him eventually!
I'm in the same situation with Sparkle. Back when her first banner, I roll for her and got her on hard pity. Just to find out the meta change to Break/Sup. Break and now Fua 😂. I don't find any character to use her with. Hope they release more character that she can synergize with.
If you like Sparkle and want to use her, I recommend Imbibitor Lunae. Although the meta has shifted I believe he is still strong enough to brute force his way through most fights.
Aventurine must Have
Must have: Feixiao, Robin, Topaz, Lingsha
Really considering: Ruan Mei, Aventurine
Considering: Fu Xuan, Kafka
Feixiao is looking out to be super super fun to play!
@@1MorePull Absolutely! I really think her best team is follow up too, she will be able to ult much faster
Maybe next time you could add a "Pulling for Eidelons" tier.
It's not really relevant for the 5-Stars. But a lot of 4-Star have really strong Eidelons, which could make a banner worth consideration if one or two of them are featured. Gallagher, Xueyi, and Asta for example all have multiple really good Eidelons.
That is an amazing idea! I will need to look up a lot of Eidelons but I will make it! Thank you!
@@1MorePullLight Cones tier list
I know this is HSR, but had to tell you I had enough for one 10 pull on Genshin and pulled a 5 star......you know where this is going.....Qiqi. Nice thumbnail btw
Thanks! Sorry to hear about Qiqi, at least you get to pick a free 5 star!
the thing about qiqi is that shes probably going to be S tier once capitano is released, both cryo for resonance, and she can apply a lot of cryo to react with electro and create superconduct. Capitano is also most likely a cryo physical dps who will most likely work really really good with either furina or by himself (dmg% scaling with hp lost or gain)
Let’s take about robin, should I pull for her E1 or her LC first?(I’m newbie n I don’t have robin)
I would look and see if you have any good alternatives to her signature LN, if you do, then E1 would probably be better. If not then probably go for the LN. Hope this helps!
@@1MorePull thanks!
I personally would recommend pulling for other characters. Power is temporary, but anime jpg are eternal ^^
But if you need a few recommendation for LC alternatives, I have some. Her best 4-Star lightcone would be "For Tomorrows Journey". But that is an event light cone so you might not have it if you didnt play during the event. "Poised to Bloom" would be the next best, even if your team doesnt meet the [two of the same path] requirement the light cone is still really good. "Planetary Rendezvous" and "Memories of the Past" would also be good options.
I hope this helps ^^
@@deafwatch7334 The first sentence might be one of my favorite sentences ever lol
I think Loucha is a surprising choice. Between all the limited 5* sustain(preservation and abundance), I think Luocha is the worst one in my opinion. I think Aventurine would be the best one as he gives shield from his skill that can stack, plus give effect RES to all allies with shield and he can do aoe follow-up attack often.
Another opinion of mine is Welt would be a considering choice. He would be useful to have as his technique and ult debuff is really useful as it prevents enemies from taking action. I don't think anyone can delay enemies as often as him. Also, for enemies like that annoying temple thing that deals DMG and have percentage raise when you attack with skill or use ult and when it happens 3 times, it's toughness will be blocked, if you have Welt and it gets caught in the technique and ult cc, its percentage won't be raised when you attack with skill or ult.
As for my list of must have and considering:
- Must Have: Boothill / Firefly / Feixiao (Any of these cuz I lack DPS limited 5* unit)
- Really Considering: Aventurine, Topaz
That's a really solid must have list! Thanks for your input, I was originally considering Loucha for my Jingliu team since she drains her teams hp (not by much) but I should probably look more into Adventurine. Thanks for the heads up!
While I agree that Luocha ranks the lowers as a limited Stustain Unit, I always feel it is a bit unfair to call him "the worst". He is by no means weak and in certain situation where he will perform better. For example the ape with his charge punch. I find that he will completly deplete Aventurine shield and sometimes even do considerble Health damage which Aventurine can recover, and Aventurine needs to spam his skill so that the shield is at full strength to take the next hit. Lucha with his strong single target heals of Fu Xuan would perform better in this situation.
But still, I would place Luocha after Aventurine, Fu Xuan and Huohuo. But that doesnt make Luocha weak.
@@1MorePull I would say for JL, maybe go with Huohuo. That's who I'm using to sustain my JL. And with her ult, she can give energy Regen, good for getting JL and their allies ult faster, and with the healing overtime too. So, she's a good choice
@@deafwatch7334 With the current meta, he is the worst tho as he provides nothing except from healing. Although he's not bad, the things he provided is not as much as other limited 5* sustains.
- His ult just deals DMG and remove buffs from enemies(which is useful in some case, but not really needed most of the time).
- His skill gives one instance of healing and removes one debuff, the usual healer stuffs. It has a chance to trigger passively when an ally has low HP, but then it has a cool down for over 2 turns.
- His talent is nice, but the heal only happens when allies attack and it doesn't have any cleanse, so against enemies that inflicts lots DoT, allies might sustain a high amount of DMG or get knocked out before Luocha's turn or his passive skill cool down is up.
On the other hand:
- Huohuo: Provides splash healing and healing overtime at the start of allies turn and when allies ult for two turns of Huohuo, while also able to cleanse 6 debuffs with an activation of her skill. SP would be manageable unless you go against enemies inflicted lots of DoT, but would still be very helpful to the team. Plus, her ult provides attack buff and gives energy Regen to the teams, resulting in quicker ult, which is really good for a lot characters.
- Fu Xuan: Although her kit is a bit unique as it reduces DMG received rather than provided shield or heal, but that is strong enough to make her good. Her skill increases allies max HP equal to a percentage of her HP and increase CRIT rate, making the allies CRIT chance higher. It also distribute 65% of allies DMG to her, which will help keeping allies alive longer. Although it's a bit tricky to tell when the skill will end, you can see when it is about to end when the symbol she created on the ground starts blinking. As for her talent, it reduces the DMG of taken for the whole team by 18%, which is really good. Plus, upon FX HP falling below 50%, she will consume a trigger count and heals 90% of her missing HP, which also keeps her alive. This won't be an issue at all unless it's lvl difference. And her ult, it deals DMG to all enemies and also heals all allies for a bit, while also granting a trigger count for her talent effect.
- And Aventurine, with his build oy requiring SPD and high defence, he's easy to build, and you wouldn't need to spam his skill much at all. His skill provides lots of shield and unless the enemies only attacks one ally, it won't be easily depleted at all. And since the shield is stackable, when he uses his skill again, the allies that weren't hit will have higher shield. And when each shielded allies are being attacked or does follow-up attack up to 3 times, Aven gains a stack and when his stack reaches 7, he will unleash a decent followup attack to all enemies while also applying more shield, which is great. And with his ult, he does a DMG to one enemy while inflicting debuff for the enemy to receive more CRIT DMG, which is nice for CRIT DPS, while also granting a random amount of his stack, resulting in more chance to follow-up attack and more shield providing, which would mean he won't need to spam shield much after all. also, his talent grants 50% effect RES as well, which is high chance to resist cc
@@crow3769 "But still, I would place Luocha after Aventurine, Fu Xuan and Huohuo. But that doesnt make Luocha weak."
You dont need to convince me that they are better than Luocha. I just meant to say that Loucha isnt weak. You didnt say that in your original post. But for me I always comes across like that if you call someone "the worst".
Also, one thing. As someone who has Aventurine, dont build SPD on him. Just stack DEF as high as possible. One of his bonus abbilities lets him replensh his shield when he uses his follow up attack. And he get his follow up attack from enemies attacking his shields. So as long as your shields are strong enouth you wont ever need to use his skill. So just stack DEF for stronger shields.
For Fun, here is my Tier list
Must Have:
-
Really Consider
Kafka, Fu Xuan, Huohuo, Robin, Boothill
Consider
Silver Wolf, Seele, Yanqing, Argenti, Jade
Not Interested
Luocha, Jing Yuan, Blade, Jingliu, DH IL, Jiaqiu, Yunli, Ruan Mei, Sparkle, Hook
As you can see from the apsense of any Must Have Characters im quite happy with the state of my account. Really considering Im mostly character that would work well with other character (like Kafka with Black Swan) and I like on a purely character level. Considering are character I would be interested in building. Like trying to make the underdog Yanqing work, or building up Seele so she can oneshot minions and do the "Oh look! Its my turn again!" routine.
In Not Interested are character that I am not interested both on the gameplay and character level. But that doesnt mean that they will never end up on my account. Aventurine for examle was in the Not interested Tier, but still sneaked himself on my account because Luka was on his banner. And Luka didnt want to show up for 50 pulls and then brought Aventurine with him. But now that I have him, I like Aventurine a lot, so other character in that tier might share the same fate in the future.
I really like that train of thought, I am also pretty happy with the state of my account (after I get Robin). It might be nice to just work on improving the characters I have for awhile and not worry about getting anyone else.
@best4u787 Yes and No. She would be the best partner for Firefly. But then it would be [Firefly | Harmony MC | Ruan Mei | Gallagher] forever, and I think thats just boring. Im having a lot more fun by trying out new team mates. How about a break March as Sub-DPS? Or Himeko and Xueyi? What about Pela as a debuffer in that 3rd Slot? Team building is so much more interesting because I dont have Ruan Mei. And that is why I dont want her.
I have E5 Welt get better kid
Good vid tho
Also Fu Xuan can give like 12% crit rate and pretty much tank for your entire team and heal your team a little bit
Man doesnt know how to use seele
In what way? I'm always wanting to learn more about characters, and it is a little difficult to fully understand the ones I don't have. Thank you!
@@1MorePull watch "pure fiction seele 0 cycle"
@@1MorePullIgnore him, he doesnt even use Seele himself and only show you someone else's showcase lol
@@1MorePull I think is refering to your critique of the hunt path. You say Hunt cant take out the minions they summon, which is overall a weakness of the Hunt path. Seele is a little exeption to that. Her talent lets her take another turn when she kills an enemy and also buffs the damage for the next Attack by around 40%. So seele is unique in that she actively wants weak minions on the field that she can oneshot so she can attack the boss with a juicy buff.
@@deafwatch7334 I had no idea about the 40% bonus, Thank you!