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A few of my classmates are sherpas from Nepal, their fathers and grandfathers worked as guide on many Everest expeditions but when I asked them why are you guys wasting your time in school just become a guide and enjoy, they said that it not easy because now days due to inflation every thing is very expensive and they hardly earn anything to provide for their family, while a lot of people from Europe and western countries see it cool. but for them its hard because the western people climb the mountains in Nepal cause they have money and they can spend it, but for sherpas they have to do it to earn their living and there's a big difference in that. "Doing it for passion and doing it for family". Many of my sherpa friends have student loan debt cause their father wants them to study hard and get a easy job, because they don't want their son to struggle in mountains like them to earn a living for their families in future that's why Nowadays there are very few young sherpas in the Himalayas, the majority of sherpas you find in the mountains are in their 40s and 50s they still do it to earn a living for their family. Just because few of the sherpas blew up in documentaries and earned money people started assuming that sherpas earn good money, but that's completely untrue. These are a few of the reason for the increase in permit fee. Another reason is the increase in pollution in the Himalayas, nowadays the pollution and trash is too much in basecamps. I remember when I was a kid me and my elder brother used to on a jog with our dad till basecamp 1 there where no trash or any plastic bottles, but nowadays when I visit my village the trail is filled with trash. Last year when i went back to my village in summer vacation My friends and I had to pick up all the trash and plastic bottles in the trail, just imagine my pain I had to pick up trash in my whole summer vacation. Maybe this summer too who knows
A great breakdown on this issue, Thom. This is such a sad case and it’s only one of many. There’s a real collision of ethics and money going on. It’s easy for those of us who come from nations with highly developed safety standards, but for countries still developing, they need to go through this very rough process of getting there on their own terms. So much needs to change in order to develop a better safety culture, as well as one that puts the profits from mountaineering back into the community.
Sadly, these countries are not 'developing'. Most of them are being exploited, and the gap is ever-widening. People in so-called developed countries would also be prone to corruption and a lack of standards if their standard of living were to radically decrease.
hey thom, im a young person from australia and over the past couple years have gotten a interest for mountaineering, your videos have been very informative, i first watched your videos about the 1996 everest disaster and recently bought the book about the american mountain guide scott fischer which has been a great read and a person who im inspired by, thanks alot! :)
Thank you so much for your kind words! It means a lot to hear that my videos have inspired you. Scott Fischer's story is remarkable, and I'm glad you're exploring more about him. I look forward to seeing a comment or two on some of the other videos that you enjoyed. Thanks for being here, my friend!
Very good discussion. I totally agree with the thoughts about the welfare of both sherpas and clients. I think standards should be at an international level.
I agree it’s not my country or my mountain but I wish the Nepalese government would do more. If it wasn’t for the sherpas the government would not be making as much money. In my opinion funds should be put aside for training as well as some sort of insurance for the sherpas and their families. Safety should be number 1 for everybody. Without safety this is not a lasting business model. I always assumed before watching your content anyone who went on that mountain was an expert mountaineer. I’m still shocked that, that is not the case. Rest in Paradise to all who have lost their lives on Everest. Appreciate your content! Peace be with you too!
Thank you Thom for another wonderful video and in-depth interview! And CONGRATULATIONS on 100K subscribers! So happy to be a part of this supportive community!!
You said it Thom in your parting statement. The Nepal government needs to step up and show some responsibility. The Nepal government needs to set standards and use a portion of the climbing fees to support Sherpas and maintain the mountain.
Thank you Thom. Although I am not a mountaineer, I do have a lot of experience in regulatory affairs. If a government imposes a fee for a fee in a high risk activity, it is reasonable to expect a regulatory regime to accompany that. There is a regulatory moral vacuum here, with both climbers and sherpas put at risk, by virtue of the access purchased with the licence fee. My sympathy is certainly with the sherpas who lack any authority, but get no protections, and are captive to the wishes of often inexperienced climbers.
There is no regulatory oversight like we are accustomed to in other countries. Some Sherpa are exploited for their need for cash and willingness to try. It is an immensely grey area and climbers need to know this. When tragedies happen, people want to blame the Sherpa, but it is truly every climber for themself. I wish people went in being fully educated.
Congratulations on hitting 100k subs! I've been following you for a long time and I love your videos and your shorts, cant wait to see your channel grow even more!
Thank you so much!! I'm honored and humbled and don't take lightly that people visit this channel expecting exceptional videos about Everest and beyond. It's great having you along for the ride!
I think Sherpas should be able to stop the summit attempt. And allow proper training qualifications for them as well, help fund higher wages for them and help make sure they can keep their families and make sure their children get educated. I talk about care of the workers and education a lot. The reason is that my parents grew up in homes with no running water or electricity. Just wells and outhouses. They only had education until age 14. My Granny and Granda in the countryside didn't get electricity and plumbing installed until the mid 1970s. My Mum and Dad are the youngest in their families and they waited 8 years to get married so my mum was an auntie before she was born! Country Granny was born in 1900 and her story is amazing one of strength and determination, but for another time. My father went back to education when my mother got pregnant after they married, they're very religious, and was able to work his way up to being a senior civil servant running the water service for the county. My generation, we had access to grreat free education. Places called Grammar schools which are more academic than regular high schools. Free as well you just have to pass an exam to enter. Now none of the girls nor most of the boys in the family had gone past high school education. I was the first girl on either side of my family to do A-Levels which is the same as American College. I was then the first to go to university and do an undergraduate degree. And went to Law School and became a Barrister, so the first girl to get to that level of professional career. And being from a catholic family in a rural area there are not many jobs. Even less now. And there was still sectarianism where you couldn't even get a saturday job with a business if you were from a catholic family. And I don't do religion but here it is a cultural thing. So if you do not get your education you're pretty much screwed. And my father although moving up in rank didn't get paid much as the wages are low here. So being a generation away from growing up in a home with no plumbing or electricity maybe gives me a different view than other people my age. My proudest moment was being able to buy my parents a new home, my dad is disabled as well, same Degenerative Disc Disease that I have and they needed to live in a Bungalow. They are more expensive than what their ex-council house was. So I said go pick the house you want, and I will do the rest. I own the house and they have it for the rest of their lives. I wanted to become a Barrister/Lawyer to help people. i used to actually work on helping to craft new laws in central government and that meant so much to me as that was actually going to make a difference in everyone's lives. And for me everyone should have the right to: 1. A job where you are safe and insured against injury 2. A right to free education up until the age of 18, with the same level of education for everyone. 3. A fair wage to a person can live on and provide for their dependents 4. The right to live in peace with our neighbours. 5. Taking responsibility for being in your community and putting out into the world what you expect to get back. In fact put out more as there will always be someone else who is in more need than you will be. 6. Equity and parity in life. Enough food and a place to live. So now living back in Northern Ireland again and semi retired, it is very important for me to work in my community to make sure that people can have these things and that children have the same chance for education and make sure that kids like me still have the same chance to do jobs like become a doctor or lawyer or teacher etc... push forward the quality of life for everyone. I'll stop preaching now, and you say Tom, go out and do a nice deed for someone without expecting anything in return.
Sherpas can cancel the summit attempt for themselves but they can't push the client to do it too since the have absolutely no power up there. It they do it they will have hard time having a company to hire them unfortunately.
So, real question here, do you support open borders and mass immigration into Ireland ? And into Northern Ireland? If you do, how do the numbers work out to supply all you stated everyone should have ? Math, not wishful thinking.
** UNINFORMED OPINION*** As an American, who has climbed approximately 0 mountains…I think the $15,000 per climber should go directly to the Sherpas and then the companies that run these expeditions should be forced to cover expenses for guides and some sort of tax based on amount of climbers they host that goes towards a subsidized life insurance policy for Sherpas as well as maintaining the routes and trash clean up. (Idk if this would even work it just seems like a logical solution from an outside perspective) Obviously this would drive the cost up per climber but that also might help discourage so much traffic on the mountain. Ideally there would be less climbers every year but more money and a cleaner safer route.
It Is Simple Really To Me. The Sherpa People, Should Be The Highest Earners Of The Expeditions!!! Full Stop!!!! They Work The Hardest And Take The Most Risks. While Also Being Incredible Ambassadors, For Their Country ,And Their Race.🙏🏻 The Sherpa People Are The Most Incredible Race Of People! ❤ They Are Hardworking, Amazing To Their Families, With Simple Needs, Incredible Faith, Loyalty, Compassion, Dedication, Honourable, Respectful And Deeply Dedicated To Their Faith In God. They Are Full Of Integrity. They Are A Happy People. They Have So Much Respect For Their Mountains And Nature. They Take Great Care Of Their Animals. Westerners Should Learn From Them What Life Is Really About And What's Really Important, At The End Of The Day. My Respect And Honour For Them Is Immense.♥️🙏🏻🕊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Pay The Sherpas Properly... They Should Be On A Minimum Wage Of At Least $25,000 Dollars Each, Per Expedition Just To Go. With Expenses Paid, Insurance Packages For Their Families, Healthcare Expenses And Then Bonuses For Extras And Strong Financial Tips From Climbers. That's It. Has To Be Said By Someone. Everest Chomalungma, Will Always Be A Desirable Place To Go, As Is Being Proven Year In Year Out. Accept It. Live And Let Live. Peace And Love. Namaste 🙏🏻 ♥️🌎✌🏻🕊🏔
I think climbing Mount Everest has become too commercial and it's more of an ego trip for a lot of people - greetings from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪 where our mountains are hills compared to Everest
I've worked in Nepal for years (not in field of climbing), and can tell you there IS no oversight. There is LITTLE to NO law or regulation. If risking your life for this challenge is what you want, go for it. But, please know the fees, the expertise in safety, the guarantees, and the people who may be holding your life in their hands may not be qualified or compensated to be there. The regulations which exist in other mountaineering locations do not exist on Everest.
How about charging the same amount the titan sub explorers had to pay? Unless, your expertise warrants an invitation to climb from a committee formed from different experts.
hey , love your channel! it's just like in music, the ones that do heavy lifting get scrapes while risking their lives(sherpas)...pity... p.s. is that jazzmaster sitting on the couch?:) greetingz from Croatia, Jura
@@EverestMystery when you said in another interview that when you came back from Everest that you had changed and you mentioned that your wife said the same thing, was it the altitude that caused your stroke?
Wow I’m amazed, corrupt public officials, money disappeared, and things remain the same. It seems some things truly are the same the world over. In my opinion, only experienced Sherpa should be assigned to escort climbers. The Sherpa should be directed that if you feel for safety sake the climber needs to turn around, inform them in the most forceful manner. If they refuse you have completed your obligation and leave them if you need to save your own life. I have never climbed a mountain and I never will, but this Everest stuff intrigues me.
Yesterday I read Ryan Unfiltered about his regrets about climbing Everest. I think the untrained climbers should be stopped. Set a criteria of previous climbs for people that want to climb Everest. Raise the fees for climbers. Stop the tourist aspect from Everest, give it respect back. Am amazed watching the videos where the climbers only learn about the oxygen and how to use the tanks at the higher base camps. Or have no idea how to use the equipment efficiently.
New story to me so thanks Thom! Commercialization of a dangerous activity. What could possibly go wrong😢?. Maybe Nepal should raise the fee to say, $1M; problem solved. At least only the very rich would be dying😊
Brilliant quote about change ; finance side will alway be victorious & hangs for benefit of environment & the good of , will only happen enough strong stronger compelling for we to push .
17:59 it sounds nice to try and put some authority on the sherpas. I just feel its going to get currupted. If there is a feeling that they can get more money out of someone because they know they will attempt the climb again, whats to stop them from turning around when nothing is wrong to get another payday.
I have an idea and it is a good one. The less Experience you have the more you pay for the Everest Permit. No Experience 200'000 USD / 27736527.40 NPR of winch in case of death of a Sherpa then 10 Million NPR goes to the Family of the Sherpa. the Rest goes to Nepalese Gvt. and a fixed Percentage goes to Everest clean up campaigns. The more of traceable Mountaineering Experience you have the cheaper it gets. 15000 USD is too cheap. This is how you could avoid the Noobs on the Mountain. I would not even think of climbing Mount Everest / Sagarmatha or Qomolangma since it is a Holy Mountain like Urulu in Australia. How about clean it up and leave this Beauty alone. Same goers for the K2.
Just starting to watch .. ha ha but dafty mw made a comment on one Thim’s eps pertaining to Jimmy Chin,Conrad Anker, Renan Ozturk epic Maru climb … and by auto spelling mistake ( honestly) Jimmy was type in as Jimmy Choo … just imagining them all at top of Maru in six in her Jimmy Choo shoes . … ha 🦄💜
I think the expedition leader and the qualified guides - Sherpa and others - should set out the circumstances and the time when the client needs to turn round. If the client and his Sherpa know this in advance, it should be made clear to the client that if he refuses to turn round at the agreed time, or if in the opinion of the guide or Sherpa climbing with him, he is not in a fit state to continue without endangering his and others’ lives and ignores the strong recommendation to turn round, then he is on his own if his guide or Sherpa feels their life would be at risk. If I was an expedition leader, I wouldn’t accept people climbing without oxygen unless they had previously climbed another 8k mountain safely and were prepared to accept oxygen if in the opinion of their Sherpa companion or qualified guides, they wouldn’t make the ascent and descent without it. Again, if they refused then they had broken their contract with the expedition company, who would not be obliged to offer any more support. In fact I wouldn’t take clients climbing without oxygen, end of. I don’t know why people do it. They’re so much more likely to die - it must be an ego thing I guess.
I think whatever sherpas get paid is not enough. But it seems to me there is not a lot of common sense in some ways while climbing Everest! If I were to attempt the climb with little to no experience no matter what I paid, if I felt I couldn't summit, i would have no problem turning around! I think it is a feat just to get there! This summit fever and the lack of experience is a huge problem, it seems to me.
What Nepal needs to do is peg a basic price like 10k to the government and 25K to the Sherpa because these people are dying for nothing the mofos that want to climb these mountains don’t give a shit about these Shepars
I had planned to do this story since last Sept when Angela did a series on what lengths Sherpa need to go (linked in description). This is beyond risking one’s life it’s about refusing to save one’s own life. It’s the penultimate example to highlight the point. And absolutely, there are other examples. I’d been prepping this one since my interview last year. The permit fee increase was a good time to put it out there. There will be more. Thanks for watching.
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A few of my classmates are sherpas from Nepal, their fathers and grandfathers worked as guide on many Everest expeditions but when I asked them why are you guys wasting your time in school just become a guide and enjoy, they said that it not easy because now days due to inflation every thing is very expensive and they hardly earn anything to provide for their family, while a lot of people from Europe and western countries see it cool. but for them its hard because the western people climb the mountains in Nepal cause they have money and they can spend it, but for sherpas they have to do it to earn their living and there's a big difference in that. "Doing it for passion and doing it for family". Many of my sherpa friends have student loan debt cause their father wants them to study hard and get a easy job, because they don't want their son to struggle in mountains like them to earn a living for their families in future that's why Nowadays there are very few young sherpas in the Himalayas, the majority of sherpas you find in the mountains are in their 40s and 50s they still do it to earn a living for their family. Just because few of the sherpas blew up in documentaries and earned money people started assuming that sherpas earn good money, but that's completely untrue. These are a few of the reason for the increase in permit fee. Another reason is the increase in pollution in the Himalayas, nowadays the pollution and trash is too much in basecamps. I remember when I was a kid me and my elder brother used to on a jog with our dad till basecamp 1 there where no trash or any plastic bottles, but nowadays when I visit my village the trail is filled with trash. Last year when i went back to my village in summer vacation My friends and I had to pick up all the trash and plastic bottles in the trail, just imagine my pain I had to pick up trash in my whole summer vacation. Maybe this summer too who knows
A great breakdown on this issue, Thom. This is such a sad case and it’s only one of many. There’s a real collision of ethics and money going on. It’s easy for those of us who come from nations with highly developed safety standards, but for countries still developing, they need to go through this very rough process of getting there on their own terms. So much needs to change in order to develop a better safety culture, as well as one that puts the profits from mountaineering back into the community.
Sadly, these countries are not 'developing'. Most of them are being exploited, and the gap is ever-widening. People in so-called developed countries would also be prone to corruption and a lack of standards if their standard of living were to radically decrease.
Congratulations to you on 100k!
Thanks, I'm glad you're along for the journey!
Watching Lost on Everest on Disney+ so excited to see you are on this documentary
Thank you, it's great having you here!
hey thom, im a young person from australia and over the past couple years have gotten a interest for mountaineering, your videos have been very informative, i first watched your videos about the 1996 everest disaster and recently bought the book about the american mountain guide scott fischer which has been a great read and a person who im inspired by, thanks alot! :)
Thank you so much for your kind words! It means a lot to hear that my videos have inspired you. Scott Fischer's story is remarkable, and I'm glad you're exploring more about him. I look forward to seeing a comment or two on some of the other videos that you enjoyed. Thanks for being here, my friend!
Congratulation on 100K, only the sky is the limit!
Very good discussion. I totally agree with the thoughts about the welfare of both sherpas and clients. I think standards should be at an international level.
I agree it’s not my country or my mountain but I wish the Nepalese government would do more. If it wasn’t for the sherpas the government would not be making as much money. In my opinion funds should be put aside for training as well as some sort of insurance for the sherpas and their families. Safety should be number 1 for everybody. Without safety this is not a lasting business model.
I always assumed before watching your content anyone who went on that mountain was an expert mountaineer. I’m still shocked that, that is not the case.
Rest in Paradise to all who have lost their lives on Everest. Appreciate your content! Peace be with you too!
Thank you Thom for another wonderful video and in-depth interview! And CONGRATULATIONS on 100K subscribers! So happy to be a part of this supportive community!!
Thank you so much, I'm grateful that you're along for the journey!
Thanks Thom. Very thought provoking and disturbing. Great Livestream today. Best regards, Geoff/MountainClimber.
You said it Thom in your parting statement. The Nepal government needs to step up and show some responsibility. The Nepal government needs to set standards and use a portion of the climbing fees to support Sherpas and maintain the mountain.
Thank you Thom. Although I am not a mountaineer, I do have a lot of experience in regulatory affairs. If a government imposes a fee for a fee in a high risk activity, it is reasonable to expect a regulatory regime to accompany that. There is a regulatory moral vacuum here, with both climbers and sherpas put at risk, by virtue of the access purchased with the licence fee. My sympathy is certainly with the sherpas who lack any authority, but get no protections, and are captive to the wishes of often inexperienced climbers.
There is no regulatory oversight like we are accustomed to in other countries. Some Sherpa are exploited for their need for cash and willingness to try. It is an immensely grey area and climbers need to know this. When tragedies happen, people want to blame the Sherpa, but it is truly every climber for themself. I wish people went in being fully educated.
Afternoon Thom, just watched Ryan Unfiltered - Everest Regret vid that was raised in the chat(?). Absolutely Superb. Thanks👍
Congrats on 100K 👏
Congrats on your 100k 🎉
Just landed here for premier 🦅
Thank you for another amazing video. Lots to think about. Agree Nepal needs to improve safety for Sherpas and clients alike.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts : )
Congratulations on hitting 100k subs! I've been following you for a long time and I love your videos and your shorts, cant wait to see your channel grow even more!
Thank you so much!! I'm honored and humbled and don't take lightly that people visit this channel expecting exceptional videos about Everest and beyond. It's great having you along for the ride!
I think Sherpas should be able to stop the summit attempt. And allow proper training qualifications for them as well, help fund higher wages for them and help make sure they can keep their families and make sure their children get educated.
I talk about care of the workers and education a lot. The reason is that my parents grew up in homes with no running water or electricity. Just wells and outhouses. They only had education until age 14. My Granny and Granda in the countryside didn't get electricity and plumbing installed until the mid 1970s.
My Mum and Dad are the youngest in their families and they waited 8 years to get married so my mum was an auntie before she was born! Country Granny was born in 1900 and her story is amazing one of strength and determination, but for another time.
My father went back to education when my mother got pregnant after they married, they're very religious, and was able to work his way up to being a senior civil servant running the water service for the county. My generation, we had access to grreat free education. Places called Grammar schools which are more academic than regular high schools. Free as well you just have to pass an exam to enter.
Now none of the girls nor most of the boys in the family had gone past high school education. I was the first girl on either side of my family to do A-Levels which is the same as American College. I was then the first to go to university and do an undergraduate degree. And went to Law School and became a Barrister, so the first girl to get to that level of professional career.
And being from a catholic family in a rural area there are not many jobs. Even less now. And there was still sectarianism where you couldn't even get a saturday job with a business if you were from a catholic family. And I don't do religion but here it is a cultural thing. So if you do not get your education you're pretty much screwed. And my father although moving up in rank didn't get paid much as the wages are low here.
So being a generation away from growing up in a home with no plumbing or electricity maybe gives me a different view than other people my age.
My proudest moment was being able to buy my parents a new home, my dad is disabled as well, same Degenerative Disc Disease that I have and they needed to live in a Bungalow. They are more expensive than what their ex-council house was. So I said go pick the house you want, and I will do the rest. I own the house and they have it for the rest of their lives.
I wanted to become a Barrister/Lawyer to help people. i used to actually work on helping to craft new laws in central government and that meant so much to me as that was actually going to make a difference in everyone's lives.
And for me everyone should have the right to:
1. A job where you are safe and insured against injury
2. A right to free education up until the age of 18, with the same level of education for everyone.
3. A fair wage to a person can live on and provide for their dependents
4. The right to live in peace with our neighbours.
5. Taking responsibility for being in your community and putting out into the world what you expect to get back. In fact put out more as there will always be someone else who is in more need than you will be.
6. Equity and parity in life. Enough food and a place to live.
So now living back in Northern Ireland again and semi retired, it is very important for me to work in my community to make sure that people can have these things and that children have the same chance for education and make sure that kids like me still have the same chance to do jobs like become a doctor or lawyer or teacher etc... push forward the quality of life for everyone.
I'll stop preaching now, and you say Tom, go out and do a nice deed for someone without expecting anything in return.
Sherpas can cancel the summit attempt for themselves but they can't push the client to do it too since the have absolutely no power up there. It they do it they will have hard time having a company to hire them unfortunately.
Cool story, bro.
Sherpas have no authority. They are mostly at the bottom of the labor ladder. Next you’ll be advocating for them to unionize.
Tooooo lllooooonnngggg
So, real question here, do you support open borders and mass immigration into Ireland ? And into Northern Ireland?
If you do, how do the numbers work out to supply all you stated everyone should have ?
Math, not wishful thinking.
@@Mom99004 they wrote a book! The day is too short. My attention span is too.😂
** UNINFORMED OPINION***
As an American, who has climbed approximately 0 mountains…I think the $15,000 per climber should go directly to the Sherpas and then the companies that run these expeditions should be forced to cover expenses for guides and some sort of tax based on amount of climbers they host that goes towards a subsidized life insurance policy for Sherpas as well as maintaining the routes and trash clean up. (Idk if this would even work it just seems like a logical solution from an outside perspective) Obviously this would drive the cost up per climber but that also might help discourage so much traffic on the mountain. Ideally there would be less climbers every year but more money and a cleaner safer route.
agreed. do other countries charge climbers a permit that goes directly to the authorities?
It Is Simple Really To Me.
The Sherpa People, Should Be The Highest Earners Of The Expeditions!!!
Full Stop!!!!
They Work The Hardest And Take The Most Risks.
While Also Being Incredible Ambassadors, For Their Country ,And Their Race.🙏🏻
The Sherpa People Are The Most Incredible Race Of People! ❤
They Are Hardworking, Amazing To Their Families, With Simple Needs, Incredible Faith, Loyalty, Compassion, Dedication, Honourable, Respectful And Deeply Dedicated To Their Faith In God.
They Are Full Of Integrity.
They Are A Happy People.
They Have So Much Respect For Their Mountains And Nature.
They Take Great Care Of Their Animals.
Westerners Should Learn From Them What Life Is Really About And What's Really Important, At The End Of The Day.
My Respect And Honour For Them Is Immense.♥️🙏🏻🕊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Pay The Sherpas Properly...
They Should Be On A Minimum Wage Of At Least $25,000 Dollars Each, Per Expedition Just To Go.
With Expenses Paid, Insurance Packages For Their Families, Healthcare Expenses And Then Bonuses For Extras And Strong Financial Tips From Climbers.
That's It.
Has To Be Said By Someone.
Everest Chomalungma, Will Always Be A Desirable Place To Go, As Is Being Proven Year In Year Out.
Accept It.
Live And Let Live.
Peace And Love.
Namaste 🙏🏻 ♥️🌎✌🏻🕊🏔
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I think climbing Mount Everest has become too commercial and it's more of an ego trip for a lot of people - greetings from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪 where our mountains are hills compared to Everest
😂😂😂
Love It. ♥️ I'm From Cork 🇮🇪
I've worked in Nepal for years (not in field of climbing), and can tell you there IS no oversight. There is LITTLE to NO law or regulation. If risking your life for this challenge is what you want, go for it. But, please know the fees, the expertise in safety, the guarantees, and the people who may be holding your life in their hands may not be qualified or compensated to be there. The regulations which exist in other mountaineering locations do not exist on Everest.
Thanks so much and thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment!
@@EverestMystery Nepal is my favorite place on the planet. I wish changes were forthcoming. 💜💜💜
Thank you for this subject. You are a trouper!
You are welcome!
How about charging the same amount the titan sub explorers had to pay? Unless, your expertise warrants an invitation to climb from a committee formed from different experts.
100k Congrats!!
100K, Congrats!
Great Interview ❤🙏🏻🌎✌🏻🕊🏔
Thank you as always : )
Such a sad story, bless their souls 🕯
hey , love your channel! it's just like in music, the ones that do heavy lifting get scrapes while risking their lives(sherpas)...pity... p.s. is that jazzmaster sitting on the couch?:) greetingz from Croatia, Jura
It’s great having you here, thank you! The Jazzmaster is my son’s who is happy to let his dad use it for awhile 🎸
Great to hear that! Keep up the great stuff, it is apparent that you care about people , which is good thing nowdays...take care@@EverestMystery
@@jgeci1 thanks Jura, I truly appreciate it!
This is a tragic tale of FAFO.May their souls rest in the arms of the creator..
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@@EverestMystery when you said in another interview that when you came back from Everest that you had changed and you mentioned that your wife said the same thing, was it the altitude that caused your stroke?
Wow I’m amazed, corrupt public officials, money disappeared, and things remain the same. It seems some things truly are the same the world over. In my opinion, only experienced Sherpa should be assigned to escort climbers. The Sherpa should be directed that if you feel for safety sake the climber needs to turn around, inform them in the most forceful manner. If they refuse you have completed your obligation and leave them if you need to save your own life. I have never climbed a mountain and I never will, but this Everest stuff intrigues me.
It's like anything else when the price of fuel goes up what do I get extra out of it? Crying over life here
Just starting to watch live replay 🦄💜. Fight for Nepolese Sherpas union.
Nice shirt. Watching from Flint.
Cheers my friend! Thanks for watching
If my sherpa tells me "you need to stop and go back down." I'm going back down.
There are MANY instances where this hasn't happened...and the sherpa ultimately is powerless to physically turn someone around.
It's ALL about the money and to hell with safety etc!!!!
Yesterday I read Ryan Unfiltered about his regrets about climbing Everest.
I think the untrained climbers should be stopped. Set a criteria of previous climbs for people that want to climb Everest. Raise the fees for climbers. Stop the tourist aspect from Everest, give it respect back.
Am amazed watching the videos where the climbers only learn about the oxygen and how to use the tanks at the higher base camps. Or have no idea how to use the equipment efficiently.
New story to me so thanks Thom! Commercialization of a dangerous activity. What could possibly go wrong😢?. Maybe Nepal should raise the fee to say, $1M; problem solved. At least only the very rich would be dying😊
Shout out to Det love the shirt. Dte. VS everybody and Everest..
Right on, glad you enjoyed the video and I'm really happy the shirt got a shout out!
Brilliant quote about change ; finance side will alway be victorious & hangs for benefit of environment & the good of , will only happen enough strong stronger compelling for we to push .
17:59 it sounds nice to try and put some authority on the sherpas. I just feel its going to get currupted. If there is a feeling that they can get more money out of someone because they know they will attempt the climb again, whats to stop them from turning around when nothing is wrong to get another payday.
I have an idea and it is a good one. The less Experience you have the more you pay for the Everest Permit. No Experience 200'000 USD / 27736527.40 NPR of winch in case of death of a Sherpa then 10 Million NPR goes to the Family of the Sherpa. the Rest goes to Nepalese Gvt. and a fixed Percentage goes to Everest clean up campaigns. The more of traceable Mountaineering Experience you have the cheaper it gets. 15000 USD is too cheap. This is how you could avoid the Noobs on the Mountain. I would not even think of climbing Mount Everest / Sagarmatha or Qomolangma since it is a Holy Mountain like Urulu in Australia. How about clean it up and leave this Beauty alone. Same goers for the K2.
Very sad!
Just starting to watch .. ha ha but dafty mw made a comment on one Thim’s eps pertaining to Jimmy Chin,Conrad Anker, Renan Ozturk epic Maru climb … and by auto spelling mistake ( honestly) Jimmy was type in as Jimmy Choo … just imagining them all at top of Maru in six in her Jimmy Choo shoes . … ha 🦄💜
I think the expedition leader and the qualified guides - Sherpa and others - should set out the circumstances and the time when the client needs to turn round. If the client and his Sherpa know this in advance, it should be made clear to the client that if he refuses to turn round at the agreed time, or if in the opinion of the guide or Sherpa climbing with him, he is not in a fit state to continue without endangering his and others’ lives and ignores the strong recommendation to turn round, then he is on his own if his guide or Sherpa feels their life would be at risk.
If I was an expedition leader, I wouldn’t accept people climbing without oxygen unless they had previously climbed another 8k mountain safely and were prepared to accept oxygen if in the opinion of their Sherpa companion or qualified guides, they wouldn’t make the ascent and descent without it. Again, if they refused then they had broken their contract with the expedition company, who would not be obliged to offer any more support. In fact I wouldn’t take clients climbing without oxygen, end of. I don’t know why people do it. They’re so much more likely to die - it must be an ego thing I guess.
Agreed!
I think whatever sherpas get paid is not enough. But it seems to me there is not a lot of common sense in some ways while climbing Everest! If I were to attempt the climb with little to no experience no matter what I paid, if I felt I couldn't summit, i would have no problem turning around! I think it is a feat just to get there! This summit fever and the lack of experience is a huge problem, it seems to me.
What Nepal needs to do is peg a basic price like 10k to the government and 25K to the Sherpa because these people are dying for nothing the mofos that want to climb these mountains don’t give a shit about these Shepars
If you don’t like, don’t go. Quit complaining
Exactly! It's their mountain. If one wants to go, one must accept dealing with their rules. That's the way it goes. Thanks for watching
Why zone in on the kenyan story , when theres many other stories where sherpas risked their life for?
I had planned to do this story since last Sept when Angela did a series on what lengths Sherpa need to go (linked in description). This is beyond risking one’s life it’s about refusing to save one’s own life. It’s the penultimate example to highlight the point. And absolutely, there are other examples. I’d been prepping this one since my interview last year. The permit fee increase was a good time to put it out there. There will be more. Thanks for watching.
Trash behind is the # 1 problem
NOT SAFETY ❓️❓️❓️🤔🤔🤔❓️❓️❓️❓️
why was a Kenyan on ME in the first place??
Given that Kilimanjaro is within a stone’s throw I’d imagine one might set their sights on even bigger things 🤷🏻♂️
It never ceases to amaze me how selfish and foolhardy these so called climbers are. Sherpa should have been paid double to leave him