Iglesia Ni Cristo And Protestant Debate Part 1
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Subject of debate was about Christ true nature according to the Bible. People of the world watch, listen, understand, be open-minded and you will know the Truth. God Bless Us All
ang linaw ng aral ng mga iglesia ni cristo, sarap makinig ng mga aral lalo.
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nandito na lahat ng debating team ng inc proud ako na akoy isang iglesia ni cristo
Proud INC here!!!😍
@AMAZON REVIEWS 👈😁😁😄😄♥️
Parang ang bulaan ay ang 7TH DAY tamo halos 98% ng sagot nya ay "wala akong sinasabing ganon". Wala kasing alam puro "wala akong sinasabing ganon". Aral muna kasi bago makipagdebate
John 10:30 I and my father are one.
Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Ang iglesia ni cristo lang ang tunay❤
This is reality proud INC 😘😘😘
Proud INC member❤️❤️😍
kahit bata alam na kung sino ang nagsinungaling :) galing ng INC. kaya pala tinatawag na Iglesia ni Cristo
LORD JESUS the savior of the Body "CHURCH" to have ETernal Life n bring to Holy Land.
36:44 ung bata HAHAHAHAHA
CHURCH OF CHRIST"I.N.C."
Greatest Treasure I Found.
Dakilang karunungan galing s DIOS n maipamamana s anak at magiging anak,Higit s karunungan na panlupa.
ONE TRUE GOD is Spirit.
The ALMIGHTY FATHER.
JESUS CHRIST is Man Savior
N Mediator between GOD n Man.
No other name under d sun.
ang galing ng ka ventilacion... :)
Faith alone without deeds is dead.
Written in the BIBLE,inspired by
GOD.
Dito ko lang nalaman na Protestant pala ang Seventh Day Adventise
2 lang naman yan. .katoliko o protestante. .
nagkaiba lang tawag pero yun pa din sila. .
Even the INC protestant din yan,protestant means against the Doctrine of the Roman Catholic.so lahat na hindi catholic ay protestant po.
@@markaleya795 Salamat po sa INFO
@@rodrigomorales1460 Salamat po sa pag papaliwanag
Salamat din CivTv..
di naman masamang mag tanong you can ask why INC have no X-mas , no trinity , why we have different preach and more... INC are willing to explain it to you using bible... you can check it also using your own bible if you believe that we have different bible... :)
Dahil po wala namang tiyak na petsa kung kailan isinilang ang Kristo.
Khit 5 yrs na yn kaya walang pasok ang Iglesia Ni Cristo dhil ang pasko ay gawang pagsamba ng mga pagano alam nyu nmn po ung pagano dba hehehe..
Iglesia ni Cristo is
John 1:12 "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:"
1 Corintians 4:20 "For the kingdom of God [is] not in word, but in power."
1 Corinthians 2: 4 and 5 "And my speech and my preaching [was] not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
Hebrews 2: 3 and 4 "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard [him]; God also bearing [them] witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?"
Romans 8:31 " ... If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?"
Matthew 16:18 "...upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
watch the last part of the video! haha..huli ka balbon!! kakatawa eh,.
Proud INC po... 😍🇮🇹
hahahaha natatawa ako hahahaha puro panlilinlang lang ang alam ng debater ng iglesia ni manalo hahahaha natatawa ako hehehehehehehe.......................
tawa pa haha mukhang may saltik daming iniwasang tanong ni mr.tompson kaawa paano napansin nyo iisa samantalang napansin kong iniwasan ni mr.tompson marami
1 Cor. 9;24
"Hindi baga ninyo nalalaman na ang mga nagsisitakbo sa takbuhan ay tumatakbong lahat, ngunit iisa lamag ang tumatanggap ng gatim-pala? Magsitakbo kayo ng gayon; upang magsipagtamo kayo.
naitala sa banal na aklat ay maliwanag na iisa lamang ang magwawagi, sa ibang salita - iisang relihiyon o pananampalataya lamang ang may totoong ugnayan sa Diyos at ito ang pananampalatayang Crusaders of the Divine Church of Christ
Tanong kolang,dyan sa talata nayan sino kausap ni apostol Pablo dyan.
tunay daw na manlalalang ang panginoong jesucristo hahaha nakakatawa 😂😂
Mikmik Almonia
Hebrio 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, THY THRONE, O GOD, is for ever and ever and ever: a scepter of rightiouness is the scepter of thy kingdom. 10 And , Thou, LORD in the beggining hast laid the foundation of the earth; and heavens are the works of thine hands.
sa totoo lang guided by satan si manalo dahil kung totoo siyang sugo kilalanin niyang Dios so Cristo Walang Hanggang Kapangyarihan mayroon ang Dios nalilto kayo dahil wala kay manalo ang liwanag sa mga natatagong hiwaga..
John 16:15 All things that the FATHER ARE MINE: THEREFORE SAID I, THAT HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE, AND SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU. MAHIWAGA ANG DIOS AT YAN AY HINDI ABOT SA KAALAMAN NG BULAANG SUGO NA SI MANALO DAHIL WALA GABAY NG BANAL NA SPIRITO KUNDI SA KADILIMAN NA SPRITO.
JOHN 14: 6 JEUS SAITH UNTO HIM, KAY (THOMAS) I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE : NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME.
KAPATID WALANG TAONG MAKAKARATING SA AMA SUMASA KAY CRISTO LANG PO SIYA AT TAYO KAY CRISTO LANG. SI CRISTO ANG BABALIK MULI MAKIKTA LAHAT NA BANSA NA MAY DAKILANG KAPANGYARIHAN AT GLORY..
ITO TANUNG KO KANINU KAYO SASALUBONG MGA INC NI MANALO 1914.?
@@LutherLindsay-sx1kg Hindi iglesia ni manalo ang pangalan ng iglesia ni cristo...yan ba ang nakasulat o nakatala sa mga gusaling sambahan naming mga iglesia ni cristo...Ha? Luther Lindsay2012 cge hinahamon kita...patunayan mo na may mga gusaling sambahan kami na ang nakatala o ang pangalan ay iglesia ni manalo...cge hinahamon kita kung may makita kang ganyang pangalan ng iglesia ni cristo...ipakita mo...gaya kalang din ni "eliseo soriano" ginagawang makatuwiran ang sinasabi kahit wala namang kabuluhan, puro pa pagmumura ang lumalabas sa bibig.
Jesus Christ is GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Period
Jesus Christ is GOD!!!!!!!!!! Period
Grabe namang mambulag ang mga sabatista....
Inc nlng di kayang talunin ni bor eli, kc ayaw nilang lumaban ang mga ministro ni manalo
Eguls kay bro eli rap god eh
Jose Ventilacion quote Isa 44:8 so it means HINDI NILA KINIKILALA si CRISTO bilang MALAKING BATO? o HINDI si CRISTO KILALA o KINILALA ng Ama bilang MALAKING BATO o si CRISTO MISMO ang BATONG nasa Isa 44:8 dahil WALA namang MABABASANG AMA sa Isa 44:8?
2 Sam 22:2
At kaniyang sinabi, Ang PANGINOOY AKING MALAKING BATO at aking katibayan, AT TAGAPAGLIGTAS sa akin, sa makatuwid baga'y akin;
Isa 44:8 Ang Bibliya
oo, WALANG MALAKING BATO; ako'y WALANG NAKIKILALANG IBA.
1 Cor 10:4
BATONG yaon ay SI CRISTO.
pinakamagandang debate ! :))
Maraming nagagalit sa amin hindi n po kami nagugulat..
Walang nakakaalam kung sinu ang tunay na diyos pero ang diyos ay iisang lng... si jesus kristo ay ginamit lamang ng diyos para ipahatid ang gustong mangyari o ang gustong ipaalam sa mga tao .. dahil sabi ni jesus kristo na wag niyo ako sambahin o wag niyo ako pasalamatan kundi ang diyos ... ibig sabihin si jesus ay hindi tunay na diyos siya ay ginamit lng ng diyos ... yan ang paulit ulit na mangyayari oh kalalabasan yan ang tunay na iisa ang diyos at hindi yon si jesus kristo kasi sabi ni jesus kristo wag niyo ako pasalamatan .pasalamatan niyo ang panginoong diyos .. oh diba paulit ulit lng ..
Di na po matatalikod o mawawala ang Iglesiang ito..
Karen Zuleta ang tnung ko lng...bkit sinasabi nyo na iglesia ni kristo church nyo, pero bkit ayaw nyo nmn tanggapin na si HESUS ay DIYOS?...basahin mo ang mateo 10:32-33, pra mkapg isip isip kpa rin hnggat di pa huli ang lahat,NIV mo bsahin ha!. pra mas mdaling unawain ok?...ligaw kc turo ng inm,..
Lea Reign Mendoza bobo ka
Lea Reign Mendoza ang iglesia ni kristo???tpos c krito tao?samadaling salita iglesia ng tao???bobo
Karen Zuleta ulol magsama sama kyo sa impierno
Arbe Jimenez , ikaw nga ung bobo diyan eh,malamang si cristo ung nagtayo kaya iglesia ni cristo
natatawa nalang yung mga taga INC eh ... walang kakwenta kwenta yung kadebate nla haha😂😂 kahit naman siguro sinong ibang MATINONG tao. kapag nakipagtalastasan ka sa mga ganyang mangangaral KUNO eh di ka talaga mananalo.. why?? out of the blue yung mga sagot eh 😂😂 so its a BIG no sakin yan. waley !!
CHURCH OF CHRIST is the True
CHURH LORD JESUS purchased his own BLOOD to feed the CHURCH OF CHRIST Act's20:28.
Cila Dela Cruz
ang iglesia na tatag ng panginoong hesukristo ang ibig sabihin nyan ang one holy catholic church
CHURCH of GOD po nakalagay sa bible hindi church of christ....try mo search sa bible ang church of christ di mo makikita, pero kung hahanapin mo yung Church of God marami kang makikita.
Brother, ang itinatag na simbahan ni Hesus ay ang Simbahang katolika sa pamamagitan ng mga apostol na kasama niyang nangaral... Isa pa, kung magtatatag ako ng isang ideolohiya, bat pa ako magtatatag ng panibagong ideolohiya na kakalaban sa nauna ko nang itinatag???
Jesus has two identity. Physically, He is man for He has flesh. Spiritually, He is a creator. For the Spirit of God was in Him. Matthew 3:16 After his baptism, as Jesus came up out of the water, the heavens were opened and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and settling on him.
The Spirit of God was created anything that exist. Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Spiritually, the WORD refer to in first chapter of John was the Spirit of God who dwell in Jesus.. prove by John the baptist in Matthew 3:16 After his baptism, as Jesus came up out of the water, the heavens were opened and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and settling on him.
Jesus has dual identity.. physically man.. and Spiritually, the Holy Spirit of God was in Him refering He called Emmanuel or God with us. That is why spiritually, He already exist in the beginning..
Wrong. Its either you are just ignorant or you just refuse to believe any possibility that God if he wants to become a man is not impossible.
Josef Andrews
"God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?"
-Numbers 23:19
GOD -could- become a human. Thing is, He DOESN'T WANT TO, so who are we, mere humans, to tell Him what He wants?
Comment Where can I read in the Bible that says God doesn't want to become a human? I honestly want to read that myself. The verse you gaved me doenst prove your claim.
🎉kapatid na. Joe. Baka nga makalusok
hahah..
pilosopo na ang protestante..
kitang kita...
Trinity or three in one person cannot found in the HOLY BIBLE.
Man made doctrines cannot save u on judjment day.
ang linaw ng sagot at tanong ni ka ramil
Ang Diyos kc holy trinity .. wala pa ang lahat ng bagay. Nag hahari na sa langit (father ,son ,holy spirit ) Kaya Diyos rin si Lord Jesus Christ sa kanya binigay ng Ama ang pagiging Diyos ng mga tao kaya nga bumaba sya para iligtas tayo.. John 3:16 sya ang hahatol sa mga buhay at patay. Yun lang nmn yun ehh. Kaya nga sa Geneses sinabi na likhain natin ang langit at lupa . May salitang (natin ) kahit basahin nio po may natin. Kaya ibig sabihin powerful tlga ang Diyos dahil hndi sya gaya natin n isa lang tayo bilang tao sila bagamat na isa ang Diyos ,kaya niya kausapin ang ispirito niya at katawan niya.. hndi sya gaya ng tao ..
puro.... wala.... nmn sagot nitong c sda.
I believe in the trinity...one God in three persons...God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit...
Emerson Rebibis ...wala trinity sa bible...hanapin mo po ang katotohanan....
skidoo loko The Bible reveals the concept of Trinity. I challenge you to read it not just to listen to me or anybody. I believe the word of God speaks. The entirety of the Bible speaks of pre-existence of Jesus Christ, His deity , His work of Justification and Salvation.
Ok if you believe in trinity ..did you find the word of TRINITY in the
bible..that word invent by Roman Catholic..stated in bible...who shall
added the word of this book will shall punished in hell and who those
decrease in the holy book shall be curse forever until there third
generation..read more bible if you find TRINITY..that word your be holy
man...
skidoo loko I did not say the word "Trinity " is in the Bible. The concept is. and it was not added to the Bible/Word as well. Which you are trying to relate to the verse is the Bible. Now the question bounce back to you. Where did you see or who told you that the word"Trinity " was added to the Bible?
@@jeffersonubaldo4321 Naghanap ng "Trinity" sa Bible. Ganyan turo sa inyo?
Ang gulo ni Ventilacion kausap, umaalis sa paksang napag-usapan, walang kasusta-sustansya kadebate ang mga ministro ni Manalo
Dami nila nalilinlang bro.
Hindi ka lang makaunawa hahahaha
@@emersonreyes5544 Wala naman kasi sa standards ko ang umumawa ng kasinungaling eh sorry💅
Bible as Basis of Faith
The Iglesia ni Cristo also regards the Holy Scriptures as the sole basis of its faith and practice. Some of its fundamental scriptural teachings are as follows:
• Absolute oneness of God the Father. The Church believes in the teaching of Christ and the apostles that the Father, the Creator, alone is the true God. (John 17:1, 3; I Cor. 8:6)
• Jesus Christ, the Son of God. The Iglesia ni Cristo believes in Jesus Christ as the Son of God. God made Him Lord and Savior. He is the only Mediator of man to God. Jesus Christ is holy and a very special man but not God. (Matt. 3:17; Acts 2:36; 5:31; I Tim. 2:5; John 10:36; 8:40; Acts 2:22, Easy-to-Read Version).
• The Church of Christ. The faithful firmly believe that the Church of Christ is the one Christ established for the salvation of mankind. It is for the Church that Christ gave His life and thus, it is this Church that He will save on Judgment Day. (Matt. 16:18; Acts 20:28; Lamsa Translation; Eph. 5:23, 25)
• Judgment Day. The Church of Christ believes that God appointed a day when He will judge all people through Christ. This is the day of the Second Advent of Christ, which is also the end of the world. (Acts 17:31; Jude 1:14-15; II Pet. 3:7, 10)
• Baptism. The Iglesia ni Cristo observes the biblical way of baptism, which is immersion in water. Receiving baptism in the Church of Christ is necessary for one to become a disciple of Christ, to be forgiven of sin, and to have hope for salvation (Acts 8:38; John 3:23; Rom. 6:3-5; Matt. 28:19; Acts 2:38; Mark 16:15-16)
• Resurrection. The resurrection of Christ is the main proof that the dead will rise. Those in Christ will rise first to be with Him forever in the Holy City. Those who are not of Christ will rise a thousand years after the first resurrection to be cast into the lake of fire. (I Cor. 15:12-13; I Thess. 4:16-17; Rev. 20:5-10; 21:1-4)
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When was debate ? Was it in the 90s? Who won in the end.
TITUS 3:9-But abstain from foolish debates, from tales of genealogies, from contentions and from the contests of The Scribes, for there is no profit in them and such things are worthless.
2 Timothy 2:14
Keep reminding God's people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.
Is this your religion? INC AND SEVENTH...DEBATE AND YOU SAY God bless you all..?
ito Ang Kalagayan ng Panginoong HESUS...BAsahin nyo sa Filipos 2:6,John 10:30,ISias 9:6,BAsa kayo pra di kau maloko...tsaka nyo malalaman kung cnu ngsasabi ng totoo
Kung saan PINATUNAYAN pa ng PABORITING SALIN ni VENTILACION na si Jesus ay NAKAPAGENJOYED na BAGO PA MAGKAROON ng SANLIBUTAN
JN 17:5 MOFFATS
now, Father, glorify me in thy presence with the glory which I ENJOYED in thy presence BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN.
This video is so helpful, however, let us not judge each other's religion just because of hearing such, specially, when you, yourself doesn't even know how to read the Bible appropriately or worse wasn't even able to hold the Bible.😘😘
Protestante hahahaha walang alam hindi nga makasagot
Hahaha si ely nag tatago na.. sa ministro nga lang sa isang lokal nung tanungin sya si nia na masagot..tinatanong lng xa kun anu kahulugan ng talaga sa roma16:16 nun ah..hahaha
+Hazel G. gago!!!pag si soriano kalaban ng iglisiang tao,,,,mangangamote kayo,,,
+gorogo doynstoyn yang ang dahilan cguro qng bkit d xia hinaharap ng INC walng modo.
E sandamakmak na kaso ba naman ang ihain sa kanya e. Kita mo ang ginagawa sa kanya. At ngayon, yung Banal na Halik, ilang beses na nya iyang ipinaliwanag. HINDI NYO LANG MATANGGAP.
Hazel G. si manalo ang nag tatago na ni hindi nga makalaban ng debate yung mga ministro ng iglesia ni manalo ang di makalaban hahaha puro kabobohan ang alam haha,gumawa din kamo kayo ng programa na ITANONG MO KAY MANALO PASUGO ANG SASAGOT maniniwala kami na may husay sa bible yang si manalo haha,si soriano matatanong mo makaka usap mo pwede mo pang kalabanin ng debate eh si manalo?naka tago sa aparador haha,alam lang ni manalo kumuha ng abuloy ahahaha yun nga pinag aawayan na ang pera hahaha
God the Father (the Creator), Jesus Christ (Son of God), & the Holy Spirit is ONE(1). God the Father is invisible God therefore He cannot teach us, and show His love and affection to us, so He become man (Jesus Christ). Jesus Christ express how much our God the Father loves us, and sacrifice his own life for our salvation. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the evidence that He is the LIFE & GOD. After Jesus Christ go back to heaven, He send the Holy Spirit (other form of God) to guide and remind us to do good and follow Jesus Christ as an example. One God in three (3) different forms and three (3) different purposes, but only one (1) goal to LOVE & SAVE us.
John 10:30 I and the Father are one.
😂😂😂😂😂
sana makumpleto po yung video malinaw kasi
❤❤❤proud iglesia ni Cristo here
Don't explain verses in the bible with your own thought 💭
khit bali baligtarin ang biblia wlang sitas nagpapatunay c Cristo hndi Dios. katangahan ang turo ng mga incm.
Nalulugod kaya and DIYOS???? ;(
Nalulugod ang diyos pag naihahayag ang katotohanan
Ang matalinong mapakikinig ay naiintindihan ang bawat salita ng dbatihan.dbat sabi ni jesus bagu sya mamatay ay kanyang sinabi "AMA"
Ang ama ay syang lumalang ng tao at ng sanlibutan
Ang ama ay walang boto at walang balat kundi ang ama ay ispirit
At ang si jesus ay tao hindiba,ngayon ang si jesus ay diyos ba?
Sagot:hindi diyos si cristo may tinawag syang ama hindi ba?kaya katunayan lang na ang iglesiA ni cristo ang katutuhanan.
At itoy aking nasaksihan,
Read John 1:14 at masaksihan mong mali ang itinuro nila sa inyo.
Halata ngang sa inyong amang diyablo.pinagpipilitang ang si jesus ay diyos eh di naman katunayan na si jesus ay diyos.kundi ang katunayan si jesus ay tao.
tanong ko sa inyo lahat.saan ba pinanganak si jesus ano ba talaga tunay nya pangalan ano ba lenguahe nia???
dilikado kayo pagdating ng judgement day, tupok apoy.. nabulag kayo kasi..........................
Agawin natin cilang lahat sa apoy...Ang linaw nang pagpapaliwanag nang ating kapatid Joe ventelacion maramdaman mo talaga Ang espiritu Santo na sumasama sa kanya...
Ikinararangal ko na ako ay Iglesia ni Cristo
konsteksto, buong diwa, at pang unawa sa bawat verse ang kylangan para maunawaan ang bible, higit sa lahat linisin ang budhi para tulungan ng diyos para makaunawa ang magbabasa
Marami sa kasulatan na ang Ama at anak isa, bakit putol putol , ang iba Hindi nababasa, para hindi mabuking na mali sila! Mga katoliko magbasa kayo ng kasulatan para mabuking ang pahayag nila na putolputol sa DIOS ang pagpahayag nila sa DIOS,
Grabe ang linaw naman ng aral sa INC🎉🎉
Sabi ng Protestante Ama din daw si kristo?
Ilan ba ang Ama?
Diba isa lang at siya ang tunay na Diyos.
ang ama ay espiritu
Pikon c protest kawawa nmn
Judgment day is near,at d very doors,all men have sinned except Lord Jesus,d wages of sin is death d second death d Lake of fire but d greatest Gift of GOD is Eternal Life tru JESUS CHRIST our Lord n Savior.
Wow
Napakarami ninyong ginagamit na Biblia, dapat yung unang translation lang ang gamitin pareho, hindi kung sino sinong translator, marami ng ipinabor sa kung sino ang nag-translate niyang Bible. dapat isa lang original translator...may pilosopong kahalo ang ginagawa ng iglesia ni kristo...
INC forever
kung god c jesus bakit pa po nia ipapamagitan ang ating mga panalangin sa dios? Dba savi nio dios na sia dpat hindi sia tagapamagitan kung sia na mismo ang dios! bahala kayo basta ang alam ko sia ang aking panginoon n taga pagligtas,, at ang ama ang nag iisang tunay na dios..
happy 101 yrs mga kpatid..：)
+Reyven Recomanta
John 10:25-30
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[c];no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
+kurolynx IS CHRIST GOD BECAUSE HE SAID THAT “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE” IN JOHN 10:30?There are some people who believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is God because he said in John 10:30 that “I and the Father are one.” Although the verse does not say that Jesus is God, they understand it to mean that Jesus is God since he is one with the Father. They reason out that if the Father is God and Jesus is one with the Father, therefore, Jesus is God. Some, like the Oneness Pentecostals, even believe that Jesus is the Father based on this verse.
As we study this verse, we would consult and be helped by the Greek language which is the original language of the New Testament in order to fully understand the meaning of Jesus’ statement in this verse.WHAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF THE ENGLISH TERM “ONE” IN THE GREEK LANGUAGE?In the Greek New Testament, there are three (3) terms that correspond to the English word “one”: EIS (masculine), MIA (feminine) EN (neuter).We could see these terms used together in one occasion in Ephesians 4:5: eis kurios (one Lord), mia pistis (one faith), en baptisma (one baptism).5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; (New King James Version)We do not see in English the difference of the three genders of the term “one” in Greek: EIS is masculine, MIA is feminine, and EN is neuterWhat is the Greek form that we find in John 10:30? Let’s take a look at the verse:EGO KAI O PATER EN ESMENWe see the neuter form EN in this verse. Why was the neuter form used? Why not masculine or feminine? Below is the explanation of the Bible scholars who studied the function of this term:With the aid of the monotheistic formula the Gospel of John develops the idea of the unity of God and Christ (John 10:30; 17:11,21,22,23). (from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)The neuter form was used to show the UNITY of God and Christ. Why was the masculine form not used when both God and Christ are classified as masculine nouns? Because it will be construed that the Father and the Son are just one being - a situation contrary to what the Bible teaches about the Father and the Son. They are two different beings because the Father is a spirit according to John 4:24 while the Son has flesh and bones in Luke 24:39.How was John 10:30 translated in other English translations?My Father and I are united (The Plain English Bible).I and my Father are of one accord (Lamsa Translation).And I am one with the Father (Contemporary English Version).Therefore, the use of the term ONE is to show the UNITY between the Father and the Son. The term ONE does not show that the two of them are just one God. If that was the intention of John, he could have used the masculine form EIS.What did Jesus conclude that he and the Father are one? In what work or activity is he one or united with the Father?27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”The Father and the Son are united in their work of taking care of the sheep. If the sheep could not be snatched from the hand of Christ, the same goes true with the Father, no one can snatch the sheep from His hand, that is why the Father and the Son are one or united in taking care of the sheep.Aside from John 10:30, what other verse in the book of John uses the Greek neuter form “en”? You could find it in John 17:23. Take note how the verse was translated in English:23 I in them and you in me-so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me (NIV).23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me (NKJV).23 I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me (NASB).Take note that NKJV translated EN as one while NIV and NASB both translated it as UNITY.In this verse, the Lord Jesus Christ is praying for those who were given to him by the Father (John 17:9). These are the people whom God called to be into a fellowship [partnership; relationship] with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord (1st Corinthians 1:9 EXB). The ones who were called by God are in the one body (Colossians 3:15) which is the Church headed by Christ (Colossians 1:18). This Church is called the Church of Christ (Acts 20:28 LAMSA).So, the prayer of Christ is for members of his Church, that they should be united or be perfected in unity (NASB). This is the same thing that the term ONE is emphasizing in John 10:30, that the Father and the Son are united.How do the Bible scholars who examined John 17:23 understand it? What is the usage of the Greek neuter form “en” in this verse?Christ himself is in unity with the Father and brings his own into the same fellowship (John 17:23). (from Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, abridged edition, Copyright © 1985 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company).Even Bible scholars testify that the verse talks about the unity of Christ with the Father. The Greek term EN in John 17:23 is also the term used in John 10:30 and signify the UNITY of the Father and the Son.THE BIBLICAL PROOFS THAT THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE NOT ONE GODWhat are some of the declarations of the Lord Jesus Christ that proves that he and the Father are not one as God?John 8:1616 But even if I do judge, My judgment is true and My decision is right; for I am not alone [in making it], but I and the Father who sent Me [make the same judgment] (AMPLIFIED BIBLE).John 8:2929 And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, (NASB).John 14:2828 because the Father is greater than me (CEB).John 17:1, 3Father . . . You are the only true God. If they know you, and Jesus Christ whom you sent, they will live for ever (Worldwide English New Testament).We have proven in this short study that it is not Christ who is the only true God but the Father. Although he is one with the Father, their oneness does not mean that they are just one God. His unity with the Father is what he is referring to when he said that “the Father and I are one” in John 10:30.If we accept the teaching that the Father is the only true God and Jesus was sent by God, we will be blessed with eternal life. This is what the IGLESIA NI CRISTO believes and this is the reason why we continue to share this faith with others that they may also have the opportunity to gain eternal life. Would you like to be ONE with us?To know more about us, visit incmedia.org. Thank you.
Human Nature po ni Cristo ang Tigapamagitan :) Dahil si Jesus ay True God and True Man
killuacut388 basahin mo muna Juan 10:28;29 bago mo basahin ang 30 para maintindihan mo
gabayan ka nawa ng karunungan ng Ama.
rey lee mahirap talagang maunawaan ang bible, may mga taong biniyayaan dios ng pagka unawa bxta ako ang alam ko 1+1+1=3
sila kasi 1+1+1=1 ganyan sila mga bilang kaya sakanila
KRISTO anak ng tao
+DIOS ama
+ESPITP santo
=DIOS
ganya sila mag addition.wala tayung magagawa jan kasi niloloko lang nila ang sarili nila.
Always talo ang INC sa mga debate khit anong religion hahha
Nu daw always talo? Hahahahahahaha wala nga makatalo e! hahaha
INC was founded by the late mr. Manalo not Jesus Christ, do u agree? because Jesus is not a Filipino...
Mateo 16:18
Jay Pascua iglesia ni cristo itinatag ni manalo noong 1914 wag mong isali ang totoong iglesia na tinatag ni cristo na walang involve na salapi ngayon ang relihiyon lalo na kay manalo puro pera at yung puno nag papasarap sa abuloy ng mga miembro habang ang kanilang miembro ay hikahus sa buhay ang lider masayang masaya at sagana sa buhay🤣🤣🤣
INC is founded by jesus not manalo. si cristo nasa langit na kaya gagamit ang dios na sugo messenger kasngkapan para ituloy ang gawain ng dios sa huling araw.pinatay at naitalikod ng emperyo ng roma ang itinatag ni cristo.kay cristo ang iglesia ni cristo
Part 1 pero pangatlo paghaharap 😂
hey everyone , we should respect each other religions and faith, INC, RCC, ADvntist , christians ..ect.. let us just share each other belief ... and we hope that it will lead us to the right path
MAHINA ANG SDA, AT INC. ANG INC NAMAN HINDI MAINTINDIHAN ANG SALITANG "DIOS" PAREHAS MALI.
Kawikaan 8:27 "Nang kaniyang ITATAG ANG LANGIT NANDOON AKO: .." TAO BA YAN? HINDI PA NAITATAG ANG LANGIT NANDOON NA SIYA TAPOS TAO SI CRISTO? SINO BA ANG KARUNUNGAN NA NAGSASALITA SA KAWIKAAN 8:22-30? SI CRISTO, ANG KARUNGAN NG DIOS. 1 CORINTO 1:24
SAKSING TAPAT AT TOTOO SA PASIMULA NG PAGLALANG NG DIOS. SI CRISTO YAN. APOCALIPSIS 3:14
SABI NG IBA WALANG DIOS LIBAN SA AKIN BAKIT? KASI NASA SINAPUPUNAN NA SIYA NG DIOS. JUAN 1:18; KAWIKAAN 8:30;
KAYA NGA NAGKATAWANG-TAO EH. TAO NA MAGKAKATAWANG TAO PA? BAKIT HINDI NIYA IPINAKILALA ANG SARILI NIYA? KASI NAGPAKABABA SIYA AT ANG LAYUNIN NI CRISTO ANG AMA LAMANG ANG IPAPAKILALA NIYA. JUAN 6:38; JUAN 12;49 HINDI NINYO KASI MAINTINDIHAN.
KAYA NGA ANG PANANAMPALATAYA NI TOMAS KAY CRISTO SA JUAN 20:27-29
PANGINOON KO AT DIOS KO.
ANO SABI NI CRISTO? "HOOOY!! TOMAS NAGKAKAMALI KA! TAO RIN AKO KATULAD MO." GANUN BA SINABI NIYA?
Sapagka't AKO'Y NAKITA MO AY "SUMAMPALATAYA KA, Mapapalad yaong mga hindi nangakakita GAYON MA'Y NAGSISISAMPALATAYA.
KAYA NGA SINABI NI CRISTO NA TAMA ANG SABI NG CRISTO AT TAMA ANG PANANAMPALATAYA NI TOMAS KAY CRISTO NA PANGINOON NIYA AT DIOS NIYA SI CRISTO kaya nga sabi ni Cristo, "SAPAGKA'T AKO'Y NAKITA MO AY SUMAMPALATAYA KA.. "
PAANONG PANANAMPALATAYA? KAGAYA NG PANANAMPALATAYA NI TOMAS NA, "PANGINOON KO DIOS KO! ANO SI CRISTO PARA KAY TOMAS? "DIOS'' wala naman sinabi si Tomas na "PANGINOON KO TAO KAAAAAAA!" WALA NAMAN GANON!
Miguel Santiago ganito kasi yun kaya nasabing nadoon na sya,nang lalangin ng dios ang sangkatauhan alam na ng dios na magkakasala ang tao kaya inisip na ng dios na magkakaroon ng cristo na tutubos sa kasalanan ng tao,ganun po yun.
This is the true Religion base in the bible verses.
If any ministries experienced in your life true GOD is WITH YOU.
Matthew 10:8 "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give."
I believe in the holy trinity.... God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit...
Remember:
Debating to each and everyone for their religion is not from true God.
Magbasa po ng biblia dahil bawal ang debate.
U must heartly share the word of God with peace, joy, love and with power.
Read some verses.
Mr Henry, if you are really interested to know the truth about the members of the Church and to find out who is the Messenger of God, feel free to visit incmedia.org.
john 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Ano ba ang apelyido ng tatay niya, pwede bang manganak ng maligno ang isang purong tao, ang ibig Kong sabihon si Hesus ay Bugtong na anak ng Diyos ibig sabihin lang noon si Jesus ay Diyos dahil anak siya ng Diyos. Tayo ay nilalang ng Diyos kaya hindi tayo Diyos. Pero if we accept Jesus we will have right to become one of the children of God.
an dami namang palosot ni ginoong THOMSON :)
Ngayon napatunayan ko na na panget ka deskusyon ang INC. Katulad kay ramil parba na napahiya kay Gitgano. Puro wala sa tema ang pinag sasasabi
Mga ugok may mga pandinig pero hindi naman nauuwanan. Ano kayo bingi
sindikato lahat ang mga relehyon.walang dyos.pinagsisikapan ang buhay.hindi dapat natin niloloko ang mga sarili natin na umasa sa
sinasabi nilang mga dyos na yan.
INC vs. SDA debate . yan ang title. mali title nyo bro.
may masabi lang si ERIC ALVAREZ HINDI NAG IISIP hahaha...
Protestants refer to the religious Christian groups that deviate from the Catholic teachings. Iglesia Ni Cristo and Seventh Day Adventist are part parts of this Christian groups.
@TheTRUTH-SET-YOU-FREE
but hasn't the bible stated that even the devil makes miracles? miracles that lead believers astray? the scripture even stated that the devil even takes form of an angel of light.
pero ang demonyo hindi niya kayang buhayin ang patay dios lang ang may kayang gawin yun dahil siya ang nagbibigay ng buhay na walang hanggan
Ganda talaga pakinggan,
God stopped Sabbaths-Hosea 2:11
Mr Jose Ventilacion should stick to the topic. Instead, he's making personal attacks. When debaters resort to ad hominem arguments, it only means one thing, they don't have a valid argument.
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, JESUS CHRIST AS THE FATHER, JESUS CHRIST AS THE SON, AND JESUS CHRIST AS THE SPIRIT
Juan 17:6 pinahayag ko ang IYONG PANGALAN sa mga tao NA IBINIGAY MO SA AKIN mula sa sanglibutan: sila'y iyo, at sila'y ibinigay mo sa akin; at tinupad nila ang iyong salita.(Hesus)
JUAN 10:30 30 Ako at ang Ama ay IISA.
Ang DIOS ng katoliko isa makilala siya sa presensya ni Jesus, period,
SA ROMA 16:25-26 AY ITO ANG MABABASA ;
At ngayon sa kaniya na makapangyarihan na sa inyo'y makapagpapatibay ayon sa aking evangelio at sa pangangaral ni Jesucristo, ayon sa pahayag ng HIWAGA NA NATAGO sa katahimikan nang panahong walang hanggan.
DATAPWA'T NAHAYAG NA NGAYON, at sa pamamagitan ng mga kasulatan ng mga propeta, ayon sa ipinagutos ng Dios na walang hanggan ay ipinakilala sa lahat ng mga bansa upang magsitalima sa pananampalataya!
Lahat nang tanung nang INC wla sa paksa ayaw nila aminin na tama tlga ang SDA.
HAHA TAMA BA NA DIYOS SI CRISTO??? SAAN SA BIBLIYA???
Correct Jesus Christ is God kaya Holy Trinity parin...
Mabuti pa si Felix Manalo Anghel si Cristo Tao🤣🤣👈
Ang Ama espirito may anak siya sa espirito si Jesus,
Subukan mo tatawagin ang Ama sa espirito para mapatunayan kung sino ang ipakita ng Ama sayo walang iba si Jesus dahil siya ang tagapamagitan natin sa DIOS, wag tayo maraming salita dahil hindi pa kayo nagdidibati alam Ng DIOS ang sa loob ng pusot isipan natin, dahil alam niya ang mga grupo kung ano ang gagawin nila sa grupo nila para makapaglinlang, mananagot ang nnagkamali sa DIOS,
Cross is not a symbol of salvation cross is a symbol of shame,disgrace,dishonor n death.
idols n images cannot save u too.
Purki naipit sa tanong yong Sabadista.nagpalusot.wala daw sa paksa.nasa paksa po yong tanong ng INC.
Kung inyong uunawaing mabuti ANG PAHAYAG 6:15-17, ito ay hindi tumutukoy SA UNANG DIGMAANG PANDAIGDIG kundi tumutukoy KUNG PAANO WAWAKASAN NG DIOS ANG SANLIBUTAN SA DARATING NA PANAHON
MGA INK NI MANALO, MAGBASA PO KAYO NG BIBLIA PARA DI KAYO MALINLANG NG MGA MINISTRO NI MANALO!
WAG PO KAYO UMASA SA PASUGO LANG!
SA KANILANG BUNGA AY INYONG MAKIKILALA SILA Mat 7:16
matagal na itong debate na ito almost 6 yrs ago na.. hindi na bago.. bakit protestant? hindi naman sila protestane kundi SDA
pa support bro
Nakakatuwa naman ang INC, itiniwalag na nga si Felix Manalo sa SDA kaya kung pagkasugo ni Manalo ang tema, ayaw ng mga INC lumaban sa SDA kasi malalabas yung baho ni Manalo na dinisplina, hindi kasi nya matanggap. Sa debate na ito, buksan nyo lang ang inyong pusot isipan makikita nyo kung paano binabaliktad ng INC ang talata at ang tema.