The money thing is a common misconception about Kpop. Only the very top groups like BTS and Twice make a lot of money. Dreamcatcher live in company dorms because they can't afford apartments in Seoul. They rely on the company for transportation because they can't afford to buy cars. The company provides a lot of their food and clothing. In return everything they make as a group goes to the company to pay all those expenses and the salaries of the staff who look after them. The company takes a percentage and whatever is left is split among the members. If they have song credits then the royalties from that are paid directly to the member and not the company. Siyeon and Dami were the first to clue into this then Jiu, so those three have more money than the others. Sua once said that her ambition was to make enough money to buy her father a car. Up until quite recently they were still getting financial support from their parents. With the success of Scream and the albums after that they've being doing better financially.
Yep, this. Dreamcatcher is doing fairly okay currently, but nowhere near Twice or Blackpink or BTS. By "fairly okay" I think I read some projections that they are currently worth about $1-3M each (as said, it varies by member). They could now afford their own apartments, but they are so close and have been living together for so long that they can't imagine living any other way (or at least that's what they say and I have no reason to doubt them); and besides it would be wasteful. For comparison, I think Lovelyz (I don't think the comparison is too lopsided) are on record to having bought cars and apartments. Besides royalties described above, and Dreamcatcher's recent boost in domestic popularity, Gahyeon is into investments and doing pretty well and is now proud that her bank account is... 통장 빵빵... stuffed full, like your tummy when you overeat? Dunno how to translate it :D This is now; in 2020, when she said she wants to be "rich", she probably didn't have even quarter of that, and ,not long before that it's likely she'd still have been on parental support, per above. Besides not being that popular till Scream era, it is likely they also had to pay off their training debts (we don't know for sure, but most companies outside the big four do work on the training debt system), meaning they were likely getting few to no income till couple of years ago. If you don't know what training debt is... most Kpop companies tally the costs of training an idol. Clothing, rent, food, electricity, lesson fees etc... all go on the trainee's tab. I believe the debt is forgiven as a business expense if the company decides not to debut them; but if the trainee leaves the company, thus breaking their training contract, or if they debut, they have to pay it back. Debuted idols will typically see no money until the company has recouped the costs. The exact debt is of course not known, but I believe it is commonly around $50K per year of being a trainee. I believe Mamamoo is thought to be kind of a record holder for paying off their group's hefty $1.5M training debt in only 10 months, though they worked super hard for it; for many groups it takes years to start getting paid.
They say their names at the beginning as well as at each intro. JiU - Gee-yoo SuA - Soo-ah Siyeon - Shee-yon Handong - Han-dong Yoohyeon - Yoo-hyon (yon with a short huh sound at the start) Dami - Dah-mee Gahyeon - Gah-hyon
Extra tidbits: Handong is friends with other Chinese idols, one being Tzuyu of TWICE. Dahyun of TWICE and Gahyeon were classmates. This guide is slightly outdated as it marked “BEcause” as the latest comeback. The actual recent comeback is “MAISON” from their also recent album, “Apocalypse:Save Us”. MAISON is also the song that got them their first and second wins after 7 years of activity. Regarding Handong’s one year absence from the group to participate in the Chinese survival show, that’s the reason why in some performances and special clips (can’t wait for you to check out!), she’s notably absent. However, if you look closely, they did leave a blank space in the choreography where she would have been in. Since returning to group activities, Whenever the group performs songs from that time, the choreography seems more complete now. During their MINX days, Dami was the maknae of the group. I highly recommend the video “Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher” by mera. It only covers 2014-2020 however, it still does a good job at detailing their journey up until “Odd Eye” or “Boca” if I have my comebacks correct. Siyeon is also nicknamed “wolf” just how sharp her facial features are. Very wolf-like especially when she has a fierce expression. They recently attended the biggest rock festival, Primevera. The very first K-Pop group to be invited and performed. They pretty much instantly got love and energy from the audience who haven’t heard of them. A mosh pit was even formed during one of their songs. The group is currently on a World Tour with the first couple shows happening in NYC. Yoohyeon games the most. Gahyeon did a couple streams last year.
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Welcome to the club of InSomnias who got hooked by "Diamond." I'm also one. Anyway, most people have already said what I would say in response to this video, so I'll just add that this was fun! Thanks for posting.
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actually they aren't 'rich' but moderately successful right now. as you saw in the video, dreamcatcher is a second chance after initial failure, something unheard of in the industry. most companies would have just dropped them and it would have been the end of that. had dreamcatcher not picked up a core international audience right away, their company would have probably gone bust for literally gambling everything on them. based on some side videos mentions, some members were still living on allowances provided by their parents up into 2019. 2020 was probably their first real paycheck, or 6+ years of essentially working for free. despite a fairly decent size and hardcore international fan base that kept them going, they were ignored in korea for years mostly because their company is small, and they use rock/dark themes. it's been a long hard journey with more hurdles than the other groups you have checked out.
If you think 1999 is young, there are idols debuting now born in 2006/2007😂😂 I disagree with it (i dont think it's mentally good for such young kids) but it still happens
I just saw the youngest YG trainee ever. She was born in 2011 and was dancing like a fricking kpop idol with 10 years of experience. It's insane, wonder when she started dancing
The money thing is a common misconception about Kpop. Only the very top groups like BTS and Twice make a lot of money. Dreamcatcher live in company dorms because they can't afford apartments in Seoul. They rely on the company for transportation because they can't afford to buy cars. The company provides a lot of their food and clothing. In return everything they make as a group goes to the company to pay all those expenses and the salaries of the staff who look after them. The company takes a percentage and whatever is left is split among the members. If they have song credits then the royalties from that are paid directly to the member and not the company. Siyeon and Dami were the first to clue into this then Jiu, so those three have more money than the others. Sua once said that her ambition was to make enough money to buy her father a car. Up until quite recently they were still getting financial support from their parents. With the success of Scream and the albums after that they've being doing better financially.
Yep, this. Dreamcatcher is doing fairly okay currently, but nowhere near Twice or Blackpink or BTS. By "fairly okay" I think I read some projections that they are currently worth about $1-3M each (as said, it varies by member). They could now afford their own apartments, but they are so close and have been living together for so long that they can't imagine living any other way (or at least that's what they say and I have no reason to doubt them); and besides it would be wasteful. For comparison, I think Lovelyz (I don't think the comparison is too lopsided) are on record to having bought cars and apartments.
Besides royalties described above, and Dreamcatcher's recent boost in domestic popularity, Gahyeon is into investments and doing pretty well and is now proud that her bank account is... 통장 빵빵... stuffed full, like your tummy when you overeat? Dunno how to translate it :D This is now; in 2020, when she said she wants to be "rich", she probably didn't have even quarter of that, and ,not long before that it's likely she'd still have been on parental support, per above. Besides not being that popular till Scream era, it is likely they also had to pay off their training debts (we don't know for sure, but most companies outside the big four do work on the training debt system), meaning they were likely getting few to no income till couple of years ago.
If you don't know what training debt is... most Kpop companies tally the costs of training an idol. Clothing, rent, food, electricity, lesson fees etc... all go on the trainee's tab. I believe the debt is forgiven as a business expense if the company decides not to debut them; but if the trainee leaves the company, thus breaking their training contract, or if they debut, they have to pay it back. Debuted idols will typically see no money until the company has recouped the costs. The exact debt is of course not known, but I believe it is commonly around $50K per year of being a trainee. I believe Mamamoo is thought to be kind of a record holder for paying off their group's hefty $1.5M training debt in only 10 months, though they worked super hard for it; for many groups it takes years to start getting paid.
That song starting at about 16:24 which you referred to as hard is "Diamond", from their mini, "The End of Nightmare".
Criminally underrated b-side! One of my favorites!
They say their names at the beginning as well as at each intro.
JiU - Gee-yoo
SuA - Soo-ah
Siyeon - Shee-yon
Handong - Han-dong
Yoohyeon - Yoo-hyon (yon with a short huh sound at the start)
Dami - Dah-mee
Gahyeon - Gah-hyon
Extra tidbits:
Handong is friends with other Chinese idols, one being Tzuyu of TWICE.
Dahyun of TWICE and Gahyeon were classmates.
This guide is slightly outdated as it marked “BEcause” as the latest comeback. The actual recent comeback is “MAISON” from their also recent album, “Apocalypse:Save Us”. MAISON is also the song that got them their first and second wins after 7 years of activity.
Regarding Handong’s one year absence from the group to participate in the Chinese survival show, that’s the reason why in some performances and special clips (can’t wait for you to check out!), she’s notably absent. However, if you look closely, they did leave a blank space in the choreography where she would have been in. Since returning to group activities, Whenever the group performs songs from that time, the choreography seems more complete now.
During their MINX days, Dami was the maknae of the group.
I highly recommend the video “Dodging Disbandment and Other Extreme Sports: A History of Dreamcatcher” by mera. It only covers 2014-2020 however, it still does a good job at detailing their journey up until “Odd Eye” or “Boca” if I have my comebacks correct.
Siyeon is also nicknamed “wolf” just how sharp her facial features are. Very wolf-like especially when she has a fierce expression.
They recently attended the biggest rock festival, Primevera. The very first K-Pop group to be invited and performed. They pretty much instantly got love and energy from the audience who haven’t heard of them. A mosh pit was even formed during one of their songs.
The group is currently on a World Tour with the first couple shows happening in NYC.
Yoohyeon games the most. Gahyeon did a couple streams last year.
Wait... isnt tzuyu taïwanaines ?
I'm highly confused... or is she partly chines ? Am i missing somthing ???
@@moonadict7 Taiwan is part of China. I’ve also heard and read people referring to Tzuyu in both
@@NJDMashups
oooh no wonder !
I was so confused TvT
I went to the NYC concert last night and they did SO many songs from Tree of Language!!! They all finally feel complete with Handong there 😭
16:31 yeah that one song slap me harder than my mom did. The song called "Diamond"
LOL
42:41 they are watching the edit after their performance of black and white (the transitions between the white outfit to the black one)
They actually have credits for an anime opening
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the title never fails to make me laugh 😭
Welcome to the club of InSomnias who got hooked by "Diamond." I'm also one. Anyway, most people have already said what I would say in response to this video, so I'll just add that this was fun! Thanks for posting.
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actually they aren't 'rich' but moderately successful right now. as you saw in the video, dreamcatcher is a second chance after initial failure, something unheard of in the industry. most companies would have just dropped them and it would have been the end of that. had dreamcatcher not picked up a core international audience right away, their company would have probably gone bust for literally gambling everything on them. based on some side videos mentions, some members were still living on allowances provided by their parents up into 2019. 2020 was probably their first real paycheck, or 6+ years of essentially working for free. despite a fairly decent size and hardcore international fan base that kept them going, they were ignored in korea for years mostly because their company is small, and they use rock/dark themes. it's been a long hard journey with more hurdles than the other groups you have checked out.
Is Dreamcatsher company smale ?
I tough it was a medium-sized company
@@moonadict7 not that small but for medium??, I think Cube, Woollim & starship are medium sized company, it only below big 4 companies
@@setanlucu931 really ? I didnt know actually it makes sens
@@moonadict7 it's small. dreamcatcher is essentially their only source of revenue. they have a boy group but they aren't doing too well.
🤟😁🤟...💯😍🤩🥰Dreamcatcher...🍀🍀🌞🌞✌️✌️...😇😇👍👍😎😎...🌛🤗🌜
I hope you get to stream with DC one day. 😆👌Even though that's a long shot lol
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Wait when??
@@ALovelyPenguin
*Next month*
@@ALovelyPenguin
*In the month of October*
If you think 1999 is young, there are idols debuting now born in 2006/2007😂😂
I disagree with it (i dont think it's mentally good for such young kids) but it still happens
Yikes
I just saw the youngest YG trainee ever. She was born in 2011 and was dancing like a fricking kpop idol with 10 years of experience. It's insane, wonder when she started dancing
Please react to Loona🙏🙏🙏
If you do it for subs and all that
You’re gonna mis. Do YT because you love it, not for the money
Why not both? I love doing it and I don’t want to be poor anymore, I don’t see why I wouldn’t want that