Star Wars - How To Kill A Franchise
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0:00 - Introduction
4:45 - Part 1 - The Whole Trilogy is a Bad Sequel
21:52 - Part 2 - A Boring World
54:11 - Part 3 - A Confused Vision
1:06:40 - Part 4 - A Better Story
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you may like predator 1 and 2 for similer reasons to the first two terminator films.
@The Closer Look
You're way late with this video, compared to other youtubers, but.. you still managed to add various interesting points. Good job 👍
Hi
@@phaolo6 ( *Edited* )
The pitch is far better than what we got. It serves as a good foundational start point to build up from.
Darth vader: literally kills dozens of bad people, innocent people, younglings and his comrades
Luke: "there's still good in him"
Kylo: has a bad dream
Luke: "so you must die"
If he's somewhat responsible for the Death Star, then it's millions or billions!
More like genoside
@behind you the entire point of the films is that all sides are retards
the redemption is just a side thing, because there the universe works on binary karma - actions don't "stack"
@behind you Because he overthrew an evil force in the galaxy, saving millions if not billions in the years to come. If you don't believe in redemption you should judge yourself for eternity for all the sins you have committed in your life. That cookie you stole? There was a time when they chop your hand for that.
@@WayTooClose For Death Star are responsible Grand Moff Tarkin and Bevel Lemelissk.
“I’m not angry... I’m disappointed” The worst phrase you ever hear from your parents
Nah, the worst phrase is when you're arguing with them and winning the argument because you have a good point, and they say "It's my house..."
Haha, I knew I should have looked for this first. 😝
The Closer Look True.
@@TheCloserLook That's basically Rian Johnson. "It's my movie ..."
Melkor You know you’re doing something right when Morgoth Bauglir agrees with you.
Tears in my eyes mate. If only talented people like you could have worked on these sequels, it truly could have been something great.
It's okay, it's never the end of the world. Maybe one of us in the comments section or even me could possibly try rebooting the entire sequel trilogy in the late future, only near my early 20s btw. The only problem would be different castings, but it's not like I'm talking about the original trilogy. It's just that I've been lately learning so much about writing craft. :)
Hearing your scene where Luke talks to force Obi-Wan and hears the mistake he made with Anakin is so beautiful. You literally brought tears to my eyes. The ending shot too of your trilogy is perfection. This is my trilogy
Luke in the original trilogy:My father has killed billions of innocent people, but I know that I can save him because there’s still good in him. Luke in the sequels: well my nephew had a dream about the dark side so let’s turn him into sachimi.
Truly is his father's son
@@lavish263team5 Hey his father killed everyone EXCEPT his relatives.
That's where he drew the line.
@@Dark6997 Parmesan though?
Edit: *PADME* though?
@@a_stranger_loop Well I mean his blood relatives.
Plus she died of a broken heart quite different than dying from getting stabbed by a lightsaber
@@a_stranger_loop lmao
The force awakens: too safe
The last Jedi: too bold
The rise of skywalker: too desperate
Accurate. Definitely accurate.
I actually like Force Awakens as a fun movie, but... it is too safe. That is certainly true.
I don't really like The Last Jedi; it's a bold and original but failed attempt. So yeah, too bold.
I don't like The Rise of Skywalker at all. It's a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt-yup, too desperate to win fans over.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I like The Last Jedi far more than The Rise of Skywalker. A bold and original but failed attempt is much more interesting than a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt. They both suck, but I would willingly rewatch The Last Jedi any day over The Rise of Skywalker.
At least none of them are as bad as the snore-fest that is Attack of the Clones.
Edit: it looks like people don’t understand that this is my opinion and there’s really nothing that will change my mind here. Especially nothing about Attack of the Clones; you could not pay me money to sit through it again.
@@andrewheaney4874 I legit love Attack of the Clones. The bad dialogue is hilarious and I love watching it with my family to make fun of.
@@lonebattledroid4474 Nice. If you like it good for you. I just cannot find anything to be enjoyed in it. I can for Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith, both of which in my opinion are much better than TLJ, Solo, and TROS. And even Rogue One to an extent (which is massively overrated in my opinion)
You could not pay me money to sit through Attack of the Clones again. Sorry if that offends prequel fans. I’m a massive fan of the Clone Wars show though!
@@andrewheaney4874 no problem. You're way more respectful than how other fans use to act when I told them I liked the prequels. The one good thing about the Sequel trilogy was because they were so universally hated other fans went back and sorta in a sense forgave the Prequels and now PT and OT fans live in harmony.
@@lonebattledroid4474 I enjoy the prequels too. They're not perfect but I also think that there is a lot of bandwagon hate on those films.
Can't believe I only just found this. I was more invested in this story as you told it than I was in all three fully made, fully filmed sequels. I am a die hard Star Wars fan but my faith and love for the franchise is at an all time low, however this on one random Saturday night has allowed me to cheer and be invested in the world I truly love once again. This is outstanding and I thank you so so much for it, I know I'm three years late but still. I'm booting up the old google docs in the morning and will go back to my star wars AUs. I hope someone high up from Disney has seen this and will read the comment to see truly how amazing this is.
Same... I didn't realize this video had an alternate plot from the title. Sure, maybe the details aren't perfect (how could we expect that from one guy) but the overarching theme is just so good... clearly different from the previous entries but with so many callbacks, world building, etc. Amazing that one good writer could come up with something this good but all of Lucasfilm created what we got.
@@justinberlage6701You can thank the disney plague for that
I'm going to believe this video
If a Disney exec were to see this, the one thing I would absolutely love and go crazy for is a clone wars style animation of an alternative timeline/alternate universe or what if sequel trilogy following this story. However the excuse goes, maybe connecting bits from legends. The point being I would love to see this regardless and i think animated would make the most sense.
grow. up. read. a. book. you. pleib.
Dude, I found your story MESMERIZING. I could not stop listening. That was utterly AMAZING.
You kids ain't going anywhere by spamming this lolol
Reminds me a bit of a story from kotor 2. Mandalore tells it.
whos the girl at the beginning? 15 minutes in and he still hasn't mentioned her, yet ive seen her over a dozen times??
@@tronnorth726 What? Are you on the wrong comment or something?
Vader: *killed millions ruthlessly, killed his own mentor in front of him, cuts your hand, actively hunts you and your friends down, LITERALLY destroyed an entire planet etc...*
Luke: There is still good in him
Ben: *has bad dream*
Luke: THE DEVIL HIMSELF *Ignites lightsaber*
Exactly Luke was good and forgiving and kind.
And they trashed his character arc
One of the stupidest arguments is that he did it in instinct
It was supposed to act as a night light against the nightmare.
@@thatoneroyalguard7060 If he HADN'T ignited the lightsaber, but just reached for it when he sensed the darkness and Kylo wakes up to see Luke with his hand on his saber staring at him in fear it could work. But igniting the lightsaber and preparing to strike? Ridiculous
@@RandomMagus yep
Finn be like: my stormtrooper friend died so i must kill the rest of my stormtrooper friends
I absolutely hated how Disney wasted a great idea and an interesting character.
I remember when Finn was gonna be a Jedi I rather see him as a Jedi than Rey I can take Rey seriously
Well said Abraham Lincoln
just like real life!
You really are honest Abe
3:46 "When Snoke is *Certainly* killed!"
I immediately knew what you were setting up further into the video. Genius scriptwriting.
Dude. Your story was amazing. It had me absolutely captivated. Far more than any of the new trilogy. You fixed every issue I had with them and it was an all around great story with a much better ending.
I think the person who suffered the most from all of this is Mark Hamill. That man helped build this shit and then watched as some dumb "kids" ran his character into the ground.
Yes, but also imagine how George must feel...
@@davet9820 george doesn't give a shit about anything he didn't make
@@davet9820 Lol are you insane? Have you seen what George Lucas did to the movies lol? Dude destroyed the original prints even!
@@keithsimpson2685 Lol what are you talking about you are out of line
I honestly wish he would have told them to piss off if they wouldn't at least consider what he had to say about Luke.
How to kill a franchise: Sell it to Disney.
I enjoyed the prequel trilogy despite its issues and I enjoyed TFA but after watching TLJ and ROS, I feel like TFA was only "good" to me out of nostalgia sense. It felt good seeing the characters we all loved again and what happened after the trilogy ended.
Um marvel ?
@@Coolguy-mk7hg Not everything marvel does is right. Look at Captain Marvel, Iron Man 3, Thor, The first Avenger, and The Eternals
@@vise_atoxity8083 iron man 3 is amazing, watch cosmonaut variety your if you don’t believe me
Hour*
Multiple scenes in your re-write had me tearing up in the middle of work. Your spoken-word head-canon had more emotional impact on me than any scene in the entire sequel trilogy. Hopefully one day we can just get a AI render-farm to generate it and have a proper denouement to Luke's story.
Damn really?! I thought it was cringe inducing
AI?
You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Abrams and Johnson could ever be. You don't care about art or work or even gratitude. You only care about consuming good content, regardless of effort or human soul. Do fucking better.
Me too...smile
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word:
woke
AI?...
You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Rian and Abrams could ever be. You don't care about creating a good story or even the effort put into a good story. You only care about consuming a good story. Do better.
And I know either you or YT hid my last comment, but I will not be discouraged.
Your sequel trilogy pitch made me cry a couple times. It was honestly beautiful. Your trilogy idea will be my headcanon for the post OG SW movies from now on.
I'm just going to call the latest trilogy a professionally made fanfiction
Tbhat is an insult to fanfiction
@@TeylaDex agreed.
Every other fan fiction I saw was better than the sequels
@@lordrevan5601 yep. I mean, theres also a lot of objectively bad fanfiction out there, but even those brought joy to at least the author. So they have still more worth than the new trilogy.
But JJ and Rian clearly arent fans of star wars so it cant be a fan fic
@@clearedmammal5874 exactly.
If Disney made the Lord of the Rings the same way they made the Star Wars Sequels:
The Fellowship of the Ring: Here’s why the ring matters.
The Two Towers: Here’s why the ring doesn’t matter at all.
The Return of the King: Oh no it’s Smaug! Remember SMAUG?!
Somehow... Morgoth has returned
oh the blue wizards as well
I can't be happier that Tolkien wrote appendices, which goes 250 years into period after Return of the King, so no one can destroy Lotr same way they destroyed Star Wars.
@@lukasopalka3396 Disney would declare all that non canon and then cherry pick the bits they liked.
Lukas Opalka We had the EU which were considered canon before the Dark Times. Before Disney.
You hit the hammer on the head with how you bring back a character perfectly in a sequel, I never knew how to articulate that as well as you did.
Unbelievable video! I don’t think I’ve ever watched a nearly 2 hour long UA-cam video. Well done!
The only thing I would change is adding in something about how the Jedi are also flawed in their no love, no attachments mentality.
It’s always bothered me, even as a kid 25+ years ago, that they didn’t allow love and affection as part of their teachings. So if Luke or Rey, or Kylo can find their way to the gray side that allows for feelings but uses them constructively as opposed to using them for evil like the dark side, I think that would be even better.
This is the most well-known of the Jedi rules. Love leads to attachment and attachment leads to strong emotions, which are the path to the Dark Side of the Force. Because of this, Jedi are forbidden to fall in love.
The pure sadness on Mark Hamill's face makes me VICIOUSLY furious
He's a man you can tell really cared about his character, the series and the fans.
He was a poor man being given orders by people who clearly didn't give a shit.
The worst part is that every interview mark has had about the sequel trilogy is like that. You can see the pain every time, and you can practically feel him holding his tongue when it comes to the shit that upset him. Like how he is straight up complaining how they arent aiming for the fans, and everyone starts clapping like its a good thing and he just gives up. Like no one was even listening to him in that room.
@@jamiesadf5829 Yeah break mine heart also. As child to grew with WS universe. Indeed. Just pure despair.
Hamill always looks sad, always has. He's got resting sad face.
@@jamiesadf5829 I'd put money on there being a "clap now" light flashing to make the audience clap
Everything is going as I have forseen
I got more emotion out of him telling a story then all of the sequel movies combined.
I cried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy.
An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared.
Bruh I got more emotion out of the Taco Bell ad I just got than the whole sequel trilogy
Yeah just listening to him simply _tell_ his story is more enjoyable than actually _watching_ the real films.
i got more emotion out of anakins sand line than every single Disney star wars film combined
No joke
That was a really nice video, I agree with you on every point. And your version of the sequels is soooo much better than what Disney did, thank you
What an absolutely AMAZING video! I loved every single minute of it. The insights into the sequels and actually explaining their flaws and giving solutions to their problems was really interesting, and I loved the alternative sequel trilogy you narrated. All of this told in a very curated way! Congratulations on this amazing job!
FINALLY! The Closer Look has evolved to the final level of Video Essay: The Feature Length Movie Essay. Congratulations.
underrated comment tbh
Is he going to analyse this video? I feel that it would have been nice to have some more characters to connect emotionally to.
People have written doctoral theses on Shakespeare plays that would take like 20 hours to read.
@@deriznohappehquite I mean cinema is just our more modern day version of stage plays, basically. So it makes sense.
Though usually the Shakespeare essays are praising his work, not tearing it apart limb from limb.
@@randomcommenter7343 well, most of Shakespeare's work is actually good and worthy of praise
I felt more emotions in the summarized version of his story than I did all of the sequel trilogy
So true :/
For real!! I definitely got emotional for this one
I'm almost in tears now. So much better than what we got, it's unbelievable.
Same here
Same for me
Here, I've barely watched each of the Star Wars movies once. Your rewritten story is excellent. Bravo, I'm happy your video popped up. I can visualize more and more details from your story and it's very good.
I was never all that into star wars, I had binge watched all nine movies at the insistence of my dad and step mum, but this, it brought me to tears. The volume I screamed 'yes' at when the idea of Obi-Wans force ghost talking to Luke was unreal. I know the movies are packed as it is, but seeing Leia and Han a bit more, almost a reunion with them and Luke before Luke sacrifices himself, a really strong happy moment bright down by his heroic sacrifice, showing that this Jedi, gave up being with his sister, and best friends to save the galaxy, helps the jedi being viewed in a greater light.
"billions of people were murdered and it wasn't even acknowledged in the sequel."
Bruh, I forgot it even happened.
NGL same honestly
I don’t even know the names of any of the planets that were blown up
@@superninja493 I dont think we were told, what these planets are called...
@@Hibbedat Exactly, I know it was just one planet destroyed in A New Hope but Tarkin said that Alderaan was being destroyed
so did the fucking filmmakers
You created a better trilogy in a month than Disney did in 5 years
@spooky katt from all angles i'm afraid too
@spooky katt I’m not sure what bad sequels and reboots have to do with the fall of Western Civilization other than that we keep electing increasingly-delusional celebrities into office for some reason (i.e. Ronald Reagan from Bedtime for Bonzo, Donald Trump from that one scene in Home Alone 2, and lest we forget Kanye West’s quixotic attempt at qualifying for this current election during one of his manic phases...), but I do agree that Hollywood is basically one big high school clique that was basically impossible to join in if you don’t have last names like Stallone or Banks or Disney, even when the economy was doing well...
Jeffrey Thrash if you were to dive deep into the events that mainstream television does NOT report on, then you’d find that those “celebrities” (trumps a business man far more than he is a celebrity) are far more fit at running for president then the ones that look the part.
You can either have criminals and traitors who do all sorts of messed up stuff and whose corruption knows no limits orrr you can choose the political outsiders who don’t know how to conduct themselves presidentially yet are very successful at running a country, even if you never hear about it in television.
@@philipseitz95 Thanks for the giggles. Do you honestly expect me to do a complete 180 with my opinion this close to a major election by using the same meaningless Fox News talking points from 2016?
Speaking of Fox News, it’s the most popular TV news network on cable and now owned by Disney after the Fox merger, similar to Star Wars here, meaning Fox News is the very definition of “mainstream television.” Nice try pretending to be a free-thinker, again, it would have actually fooled me prior to the 2016 election.
Finally, thank you for answering my question as to why people keep voting increasingly delusional and out-of-touch celebrities into extremely important government positions. It sounds like the people that think millionaires and billionaires who didn’t even really have to work for their money would even be capable of sympathy for less-fortunate Americans are pretty delusional and out-of-touch themselves. Good day.
well said. great story arc. It is very sad that the Sequel died trough the egos of two directors and the lack of a good story arc for the triology by disney
Han was not actually the same, he did progress ANH, ESB and ROTJ. He regressed to the Han in the beginning of ANH.
"I'm subverting expectations" is code for "I wanna do it my way, and don't care about consequences"
Luke: believes in the good in literally Lord Vader until the very end.
Also Luke: considering murdering a Kid who had some attitude in cold blood in his sleep.
I saw someone literally trying to defend Luke attempting to kill Kylo in his sleep by saying, "Well it's different, and it's not HIS story, it's Rei's story." Like, seriously? Who cares if it's Rie's story, Luke should still act like Luke. Then again, he also was moved to tears at Leia floating herself back onboard the ship from deep space.
@@LWolf12 let's just say that sequels ate not canon
@@basedhalo I'll agree to that.
@@basedhalo Tbh, none of the star wars movies are a napoleonic war era cannon
(Dont sue me, I get the difference, put that gun down STOP-)
Seems like a reasonable reaction to working with teens TBH /s
Just listening to this was better than watching the movies
It gave me chills
I even cried a little
I shed a fuckin' tear at the end of the new script pitch. God damn it, Disney...
Agreed. I hope this can replace the last 3 movies.
It was almost the catharsis I needed.
Absolutely phenomenal video, almost skipped it after UA-cam auto played it for me, but I’m glad I didn’t. You have such a captivating method of story telling and I look forward to binging some of your uploads later tonight.
Can’t wait for the “What If…” centered around my newest head canon.
Just saw this and bravo! I found myself having bigger reactions to your rewrite. Loved the plot twist with Rei's mother. That ending was chef's kiss. I really hope that these get made into movies, or even graphic novels. Maybe even an animated series. I also, really enjoy that you don't just offer a critique, but your own solution for the issues. Once more bravo.
The Closer Look: "Did you like my pitch? :D"
*me with tears pouring down my face*
"Ye I would say it was pretty good mate, nice job"
:)
I Icried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy.
An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared.
And Kylo has to try and make her see that she should follow her own path instead of staying with her evil mother.
The only comparison I can make is Zuko and Iroh but this is obviously way different.
@@TheCloserLook You are very proficient in the art of the storytelling, my dear friend, but sadly I can only wish you the best there is for you, I knew why I subscribed, and now more than ever know why I stayed with your content, even though I never aspired to be a writer/director, you always pitch me a little closer to finally try to do something that is truly mine, and for that, I am truly grateful, thank you :)
you're not alone I cried too
Yes, that was beautiful, the end scene would have been great
If Jar Jar had walked out from behind some curtains and claimed to be both Rey and Kylo's father, I think the whole story would've been more believable and would've made more sense.
Meesa make yousa with genetic engendering
@@gorg6151 this made me giggle
okay, that'd be a top tier shitpost that'd have me laughing for a solid 10min until I release they're being serious.
@@gorg6151 "Yousa knows what theysa says abouts males with lengthy tongues?" *Tongue wave*
or I'd probably believe that I was trippin' on something. lmao
Great job on the video. I felt for the longest time that the world building was dull. You expressed this so well in this video. Bravo.
Glad i found this, even though its been out for 3 years. I loved your take. Only thing I would change is adding in "Grey Jedi". SInce Rey and Kylo both dabbled with the dark side for a great deal of time, they are able to see the Pro's and Con's of both sides... Allowing them to create a YIN/YANG teaching that created the balance the force has always been looking for. Hope this finds you well. Cheers!
I had the biggest most smug grin imaginable when you started tearing down the sequel movies dreadful world building.
Building? Nah, it is more of a poorly made carbon copy.
@@liaml.e.5964 More of a cheap knockoff made in some sweatshop.
Yep
i think that will go down as one of the biggest issues, and TFA having literally ZERO things happen, just expecting the next film to carry the entire story from a start point where there's literally 2 hours of filler
I actually answered all the question's as he is possibly smugging to himself thinking that he found some refutable evidence. Except that all these questions have been ansered in the FIRST movie.
for example. Is the first order a small faction or a large faction? Small faction. Stated in the first movie of the sequal trilogy.
Why didn't they built a navy instead of starkiller? Limited resources. So they decided to built one death canon that soaks up energy from the sun instead of creating new energy and deliver that first blow in a desperate attempt to destroy the enemy.
Why didn't the New republic do anything? The new republic didn't want another war and only saw the first order as a fringe group.
All of the question he so smugly spouts can be explained. Yes explained poorly with not much logic placed into them. But they CAN be answered.
Somehow… Palpatine returned.
Somehow… Rey can defeat literally anyone, despite only discovering the Force literally three days earlier.
Somehow… Rey repaired Luke’s lightsaber, even though it had been torn in half and then completely blown up as the Supremacy was destroyed.
Somehow… The Force Heal ability was never used by any Jedi, not even Anakin to save Padme or Obi-Wan to save Qui Gon, before Rey used it to save an enemy that had killed his own father before her eyes.
Somehow… The Death Star wreckage is on a random ocean planet, mostly intact and left untouched by scavengers, even though it should’ve crashed on Endor and should’ve been completely destroyed by the explosion.
Somehow... Hyperspace is a weapon of mass destruction, which had never been used as a weapon until Holdo came up with it, even literal eons after it’s creation.
Somehow… No one has crashed into something, literally anything, whilst flying in Hyperspace before Holdo did.
Somehow… Force Ghosts can interact with the physical world, yet they have never once tried to help the Jedi in battle.
Somehow… People were paid to write this trilogy.
and somehow... the sequels are still 10 times better the the prequels
@@royalkingdom2801 The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.
@@AlexanderTheBloodraven very original mate
@@royalkingdom2801 Oh, so you want me to start listing off the facts? Well, okay, then:
The Star Wars prequels definitely had problems, mainly in the fact that George Lucas was mainly thinking about the child audience when he was making the trilogy. This led to the creation of Jar Jar, who mainly just came off as annoying and unnecessary rather than comic relief. There is also the fact that the dialogue in the trilogy is more dramatic and ‘poetic’ than the Original Trilogy, which led to some important lines coming off as comedic rather than being dramatic or romantic.
That being said, the story of the Prequels is amazing. The worldbuilding is made in breathtaking detail and provides amazing context for the entire franchise. The plot tells the tragic story of how Anakin became Darth Vader in amazing storytelling and allows you to understand Anakin’s turn to the dark side completely.
Meanwhile, the Sequels can BARELY be called a trilogy or a story at all. Each of the movies were made by different directors who both had different plans for how the trilogy would end. Every time they made a movie, they did not even build their story from the plan that the previous film set up and instead made up their own plan as they went, which ended up causing the themes of each movie completely contradict each other.
For example, The Force Awakens was basically just a remake of A New Hope, with a fancier Death Star. All it did was basically try to build a new story that tried to appeal to the Original Trilogy, however, instead of trying to build A New Story off of the Original Trilogy, they basically just tried to copy everything from more iconic films to try and look appealing, instead of coming up something new and original.
However, The Last Jedi has the exact opposite problem. It tries to make a story that was new and original, but instead of building the story off of the legacy of the Original Trilogy’s characters and accomplishments, they essentially try to make every single one of our favorite past characters look as pathetic as possible so that they can new characters look better. Luke’s entire character was completely ruined by this movie, because he turned into the exact opposite of who he was. He went from a brave, determined Jedi to a cowardly, pathetic hermit who wouldn’t even leave the planet he was on to save his own sister and the Rebellion.
These are just a few of the countless problems that the Sequels stupidly created. Let’s get into the characters shall we?
First off, Rey is a terrible protagonist. From the very first part of the trilogy, she has NO character development. Absolutely NONE. Her abilities in the Force are not attained through hard work and determination, but are just GIVEN to her by the writers for no other reason than to make her overpowered. And it’s not just the Force they made her overpowered with. They made her win EVERY SINGLE LIGHTSABER DUEL SHE’S EVER HAD. The first time, literally the FIRST TIME, she ACTIVATED a lightsaber, she went up against a guy who had been trying with the Force and his lightsaber his ENTIRE LIFE, despite having NO training with any blade-like weapon of any kind. And she WINS.
The first time that both Luke and Anakin fought in a lightsaber duel, even though they had trained their asses off, they got their asses handed to them. Because of course they did. Both the opponents they were facing were significantly more experienced and powerful than they were. The point of that was that both of them eventually overcame their struggles and grew more skilled as time progressed.
But Rey didn’t overcome any struggles, because she was never defeated. She was already made the most powerful character by the begining of the trilogy through nothing else but 10 inches thick plot armor.
There are countless other problems in the Sequels. So many that I can’t even get into the full number of them without turning this reply into an entire book.
The Prequels definetly weren’t perfect, but they were definetly better than a dumb story that MAKES NO SENSE and ruins every single one of our favorite past characters. The fact that you are actually trying to say that the Prequels were WORSE than this garbage makes me wonder if you’ve actually watched Star Wars at all.
@Anne O'Nymous ayo I watched that last week lol
Id say the "gold standard of sequels" hasn't even been released yet, "Dune, Part 2" (maybe not actually a sequel, just a continuation of the story, but is that not what a *good* sequel is supposed to be..?)
Your version of the story is canon in my book. Sooooo much better than.... well, it's so much better. Even hearing it in a nut shell, the part where Obi Wan tells Luke about Anakins dreams and telling Rey the truth, brought me to tears. Bravo 👏👏👏
“Let’s look at what is probably the most beloved sequel of all time.”
Me: SHREK 2???!!!
"The most beloved *non-animated* sequel of all time" Fixed
Please because I thought the same
I thought the dark knight
I swear I could see Shaffrillas sweating when he mentioned a perfect Sequel
@@cogahan3105 me too 😅
I cannot properly express how heartbreaking it felt to see Mark Hamill's response to the audience clapping in agreement with Rian Johnson.
They didnt even understand what he was talking about.
All they saw of what he said was the "you go girl do your own thing" type message and they loved it 🤢
For some reason, I can see Joker feeling insulted.
Anyone have the link? I’ve seen it once before but I wanna see it again and can’t find it
Oh no! Luke didn't do what you wanted or act the way you wanted him to? After how many years? Holy shit! It's almost like he's supposed to be a human being! Weird! Jesus Christ grow the hell up.
I love this video. I got teary eyed when you mentioned the dozen force ghosts at the end 🥹
Oh man. Your version was incredible. After seeing the characters, especially Luke treated so terribly by Disney, to see someone who actually cares and is a good writer do something that carries the story forward and not just teleports it to some random spot in left field is just refreshing. I really needed that.
I was troubled by one part though. I know we want to hit a downbeat in the second movie, that's just a gimme. I don't know if Luke dying then was the right call. It's great but I wanted more from him than realizing he was a bad mentor. We need to see how powerful he really is. This is Luke near prime and I don't think we're gonna get that out of one sacrificial act unless he contains a supernova with the force or something. 😂 We have to see even him barely making it against the Youzhong Vong. Challenged in combat, challenged in mentorship. We have to show the orders of magnitude difference between a jedi knight like even Obi-Wan and Luke, son of the chosen one, and without massively debilitating injuries. And we really need to see his relationship with Leia, his twin sister. I love Han retiring. Chewie trying to convince him he's still got some good years in him. Chewie heartbroken because wookies live much longer. Like watching your old dog age. Leia got such a good treatment in Obi-Wan. I want to see more of her political acumen in the spotlight. A force user as strong as her but as a force for society. Running circles around her opponents, handling dissent, charming everyone around her. Honestly, there's way more than enough story for 2 sequel trilogies.
God I hope AI hurries up and we can tell it what movies we want. 😂
As someone that hasn’t seen Episodes 8 & 9 due to their poor reception, I now accept your version of this trilogy as canon.
I was going to give you a like, but it's at a perfect 66 right now. 😆 now I can give you a like
The moment Mark the guy who played Luke Skywalker one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema, voiced a single complaint about Episode 8 I gave up on Star Wars, Disney ruined it.
I didn’t make it past Rogue One (which I thought wasn’t too bad) but without George, these films are just a parody.
Fr idk if it’s cuz it’s 4 am for me but I almost cried cuz of how much better it was and I realized that mark wouldnt act that story out and instead it would just be the joke it is now
Good you’ll lose ur humanity when u watch those films
*The Star Wars Original Trilogy:* When you have a vision, but barely the resources and leeway to bring it to life.
*The Star Wars Prequel Trilogy:* When you have a vision, but too much leeway and resources to do what you want.
*The Sequel Star Wars Trilogy:* When you have no vision, no plan, but unlimited resources, and decide to play mad libs with it.
Yes both JJ and Rian had a vision but the death of Fisher kinda messed most of their plan
Lol to imply that they didn’t have huge massive budgets (for their time) for ESB and ROTJ is ignorant af
@@deadshot5007 Rian had a vision of showing his activism in support of identity politics and shitting on george lucas by destroying his creation at the same time as Rian does not give a shit about maintaining the sandbox of someone else when given it to play in.
JJ had a vision of racking in tons of cash in merchandising by just minorly changing everything so that it is his property so he gets the merchandising money instead, just like he attempted with Star Trek.
Sure the death of Fisher threw wrenches into a number of things, but as it happened during The Last Jedi's production run a couple reshoots and have Leia die instead of going mary poppins would have solved the issue.
Astoundingly, too much money has made a trainwreck of MANY films. It seems to erase creativity, copykill and make directors and execs rely on effects and CGI.
@@saymyname2417 that's the problem with today's movie unfortunately. Movie nowadays is treated like products & they have to in order to justify their cost so they can appease their shareholders. The problems with blaming the failure of star wars on individual like KK or JJ is ignoring the elephant in the room.
I was tearing up throughout your entire pitch. It's such a shame they don't hire fans like you to tell the stories that should be told.
You lost me at “treating hands solo good on the first movie” he was general and solo leader of the rebellion ended up a deadbeat dad and a criminal
Mandalorian season 2 was better than every star wars movie released by Disney. Thats what happens when people who love star wars make star wars.
Y E S
Exept for rogue one tbh
Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams do love Star Wars. Loving the franchise is not a guarantee of quality. It also requires hard work, solid planning, and adaptability. The people making sequel trilogy definitely lacked the latter two.
@@magnusprime962 and they were just two children playing in a 4 billion dollar sandbox fighting over who got the dump truck
I must say I haven't seen season 2 but still I might doubt. Roque one is also a star wars movie and it's tbh the best star wars movie released beside the OG trilogy
Him: So let us look at what is universally acknowledged as the best sequel of all time--
Me, nodding sagely: Shrek 2
omg that is what I thought too
Yea, Godfather 2 is some minor, bshit sequel. Shrek 😁
Schaffrillas is a religion
My mind went to Toy Story 2
The best thing is, Shrek 2 also falls into the same category he's talking about. It respects the original movie but expands on the themes and ideas of it.
I'm just wondering why Disney doesn't know who you are, you are way much better at writting than Disney's writers.
I don't watch these movies. I stopped watching movies over a decade ago. I am watching these types of videos so I can learn more about how to piece together the story of the game I'm producing, but... I was ENTHRALLED by your version of this story. I was enjoying just listening to it. Frankly, I haven't seen a good movie since the original Matrix, but what you just described... I would go see it.
**Sees notification**
"Oh sweet. This would be fun"
**Sees video length**
"HOLY CRAP!"
he really have something to say at least… i cant wait to watch it fully!
@@fnym9rdsavsffdik9a25 same :)
I’m gonna eat today my homie
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYYY CRAP.
I didn’t even look at the length when I started. When he said “This video is a little longer than my usual videos”, I assumed it’d be, like, 40 minutes maybe. Then I looked at the length.
Tfa: pisses on han's legacy
Tlj: pisses on Luke's legacy
Tros: pisses on Anakin's legacy
and all of them piss on our intelligence
tros also pisses on leias legacy making her out to be some great jedi instead of a politician but i mean i totally see her learning from luke as well so idk
for a second i thought TROS meant "the revenge of the sith" i was so confused
Disney: Pisses on George Lucas' legacy.
@@emmakielty5552 They screwed up Han too, regressing him so he's a smuggler and dead beat who runs away.
I can't believe I actually stuck it out, but that is a testemant to the quality of this video. There were so many glaring things wrong with the sequel trilogy and many of them infuriated me. But I also felt like it was so much worse than I could put my finger on or even process. Thank you for elucidating the many story formation problems and bad writing mistakes that I couldn't.
Also I like your trilogy, it would have at least had consistency and not needlessly retconned the entire cannon.
I keep coming back to this video because I keep wanting to watch the movies from the last quarter, and then I have to remember that like Cardinal West's prequel rewrites they are but an imaginative look at a world where there are more good star wars films than bad ones.
The worldbuilding is exactly why I love the prequels. Not as a movie, but as a setting for our imagination.
The prequels felt much more of a fantasy world, felt more like Star Wars. The sequels didn’t really do this.
Episode 3 was my favorite
Even with the issues with the prequels, they did greatly expand the world, generally very creative and builds up to the OT.
Like Coruscant was a FANTASTIC idea! In a fantasy epic where society is spread across different planets, it makes perfect creative sense that one of them has to be a central hub. And its made even better by the fact that Lucas didn’t just make it this shining metropolis, but he gave it its slums, and factories, and dinky corner-street diners 👌🏻
Same
How did you write a better trilogy in such a short span of time with 0 budget than Disney did with millions of dollars and years, wild
I feel like one reason The Last Jedi was bad was that throughout The Last Jedi Ryan was constantly trying to „gotcha“ the audience, the audience expects Luke to accept The lightsaber luke throws it away, the audience doesn’t expect Anakins lightsaber to get destroyed and it does, the audience expects Finn to sacrifice himself and rose „body“blocks him, the audience doesn’t expect Luke to die so Luke dies.
okay I never wanna see Mark Hammil look that sad ever again, holy shit, I feel it, like he betrayed his own fans when he couldn't even do anything about it T_T
yeah i feel the same way. It reminds me of Lucas' face when he signed star wars over to Disney. they both look so disappointed, ashamed and completely aware compared to Disney/Rian Johnson.
I think he purposely let his feelings show, if subtly. Only thing he could do without acting against the contract, I suppose.
@@chav3136 Well Lucas could have ya know, said no, you’re not having my creation. He’s no right to look disappointed or ashamed whilst he was willingly signing it over to them.
@@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle yeah true. I just think he looks really regretful that's all but youre right. Disney might have given him loads of promises that sounded good at the time and he said yes but regretted later. Idk 🤷♀️
He didn't betray his own fans--we asked (demanded) that he play in this new trilogy, assuming the trilogy would be good...and then Hamill got his script for The Last Jedi and was now obligated to comply. You can tell he had many pleas with Johnson to consider the fans, and Johnson--being an arrogant dick--refused to listen. That's why I love Mark Hamill and freakin' hate Johnson.
Gentlemen, let us watch this poor man lose his mind for several hours
Let us watch him lose his mind for several hours due to the stupidity of Disney.
Aditya Singh sigh the sequels ruined the prequels and the original trilogy and we need people like him losing their minds
Ardent Gamer no Disney just don’t understand star wars
The story he told at the later 3rd of the video was nice
All Disney understands is Star Wars = Profit
17:00 imagine what a goosebump-inducing scene you could have if Luke, fearing Rei has turned to the dark side, decided he needs to kill her and you see just how strong he is. Even if it doesnt lead to a fight, the moment of seeing that he would rather kill someone than let it happen again would be terrifying.
It’s crazy that just hearing an idea of what the next three movies by you could’ve been gave me goosebumps and made me excited rather than 3 two hour long movies that have even edited and written and didn’t expand on the universe at all or even have an impact in my opinion
Dude someone give this guy a billion dollar budget so he can realize his vision. "A better story" is 100 x better than what we had to endure with Disney.
Sad part is, it wouldn't matter if we did. Star Wars is owned by disney and while yes they are greedy mfers, they are also unapologetic control freaks. Even if he bought the licensing rights to produce something they'd tear it apart and stitch it back together so gruesomely nobody would recognize it.
For all some of my friends talk about 'the importance of copyright cause otherwise anybody could just sell horrible shit with your name on it and you could do nothing about it'... there's only one company allowed to make star wars now and they are making horrible shit with its name on it and nobody can do anything about it.
I agree; mostly. The story was so epic, I actually got chills. But the Yu Hang Wan part needs improvement. It's as if they were a main part of the first movie, then sidelined, and were finally gone. But the rest was incredible.
get elon musk on board we will have a better story in no time
we don’t need a billion dollar budget, just someone with animating skills and a whole lot of time
@Alexander Asher how could you tell?
The Closer Look: let's take a look at what is probably the most beloved sequel of all time...
Me: Shrek 2
TCL: Terminator 2
Me: Oh...
Ok you got me there.
That was *his* mistake
I tought exactly the same thing.
Shrek 2 is great! That's how you do a sequel: a natural progression of the story/character arcs, more worldbuilding, new likable characters, villains with understandable motivations, and the same look and feel of the original.
@@akai1up And then follow it up with a disappointing third movie.
I have an idea, a new LOTR movie, where a small hobbit celebrates their 111th birthday, disappears with a magic necklace, and the witch Gindelfi who helps her with trying to destroy it in the fires of NasGuhlDor!
Friendship of the necklace!
Maan, as a person who have never watched the Episode I-VI, yet watched the VII and disinterested in SW Universe, your version is really engaging, thoughtful, and induces many emotional ties with a 'fiction²' characters. Salut!
"I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed."
-Parents
-Also, Star Wars Fans
@Wparker6804 I'm just really sad that they squandered what they were given. They basically threw the Skywalker saga straight into the trash.
I'm just glad it's over.
Oh we're angry alright. If somebody takes a big dump on your porch and then tells you that you're evil for not noticing his genius, that's no longer disappointment. That's anger about a roundhead that needs a beating.
@@jthomas6672 fear leads to hatred not anger. You can be angry at something or someone but not fear them, but if you hate someone you almost always fear them in someway
@@jthomas6672 Yoda isnt a real prophet bro. Think about it in a real world scenario. Fear leads to hatred
Re-writting Kylo as a pride-obsessed maniac instead of a whining child would be so much better
He could have been a zuko. But noooo
I dont even know what kylo's goal was, take over the galaxy because vader kinda did that? Turn rey evil because power?
I would like more if Kylo just stayed and died as sith it would give a memorable lesson about that not everyone can be redemed.
@@kacperaskawski3461 After seeing the terrible way he died, I'd have to agree. On the other hand, he would go down as the worst sith in history.
@@pumkin610 yep but at least he wouldn't be just emo, discount Vader.
I loved it! I was so disgusted by the last three movies that I try to pretend they don’t exist. Thank you for righting the wrongs to one of my favorite childhood memories.
I had some tearing up when we mentioned Luke entering the Jedi temple in awe and wonder and that incredible build up to the horror of the Holocron messages.
One day, I hope Mark Hamill sees this rewrite.
honestly, yeah. looking at interviews, it's honestly heartbreaking to see the pain in his face. he knows that in the sequel trilogy, luke is not luke. it's honestly so sad but in this rewrite, i know *i* saw luke. not *a* luke, *the* luke.
If somebody has twitter or something you should send it to him
Mark Hamill actually apologised for everything he said about TLJ and said that Rian did an amazing job with the movie.
@@bjakeijzer Yeah, I'm sure that wasn't forced *at all*. Look, for all I know, it very well could be genuine, but to me, his comments feel more genuine then his apologies. But that's just me.
@@katieleora8057 I honestly don't think it was forced. He's been schown to be very open with his opinions and didn't shy away from saying he disagreed with Rian.
Closer: "Let's look at one of the most beloved sequels of all time..."
Me: "Shrek 2"
Closer: "Terminator 2"
Me: "Terminator 2"
Ah yes a schaffrillas productions fan. I approve :)
Shrek 2 one of the best sequels. Shrek also a franchise that is continued to be talked about today.
The Dark Knight??!!
Terminator 2
Empire Strikes Back
The Bride of Frankenstein
The Dark Knight
The Road Warrior
No particular order, off the top of my head, but I think these right here are the elite sequels
Ryan Tiller The Godfather 2
This video essay articulates the issues with the Sequels so well, but I highly doubt the Sequel Defence Force would even bother listening.
Ok, your rewriting ideas are really good and original, wish this would have been the actual plot!
I'd legit watch a remake of all 3 movies with all the same actors if Filoni did it. Those actors got robbed and I feel bad for all of them
I'm actually inclined to agree with you. The actors themselves weren't too bad(except the chick who played rei. She's so dumb).
@@liambrasier6590 its not Rei's actor's fault. Its the directors fault for not doing a retake of the scene. The actors all have acting as their profession, they are skilled enough to do it.
yeh i was feeling bad for the actors like daisy ridley. its not that i dont like her as an actor i just didnt like your character
Considering that multiple key actors are dead there's no fixing the lifetime fuckup of Kennedy and crew.
@@liuxoB nah Daisy Ridley really isnt that good of an actor
You can't tell me the kid who saw good in the most evil man in the galaxy saw his nephew have a few dodgy nightmares and thought "Oh I've gotta kill this one". Rian had absolutely no idea who Luke was and what he stood for.
just one sign he had no idea what was going on
no fucking chance he would
I see you don't understand Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
@@cerebrophage7709 From what? Nothing bad happened BEFORE he tried to kill his nephew... sure hiding away after the incident and the temple being burnt down makes some sense.
@@1001History the kind of confrontation and what he had to do with his father and what vader did and how vader did it, and what luke had to do to his father might be a bit traumatizing. Being someone who struggles with PTSD myself, this makes complete sense to me: nearly abandoning ones convictions to protect yourself and others. Not only this, he realized in that moment he was about to repeat the same path his father took.
Edit: further, PTSD blocks out your memories and leaves only the intense feelings there and specific stimuli that trigger those memories as a warning system.
The summary you give in your post is a summary of what Luke confessed summary. We don't have the full story, just Luke's and Ben's brief recounting of events. No context, nothing. Just a sixty second retelling.
I waited years for the sequel's -- I excitedly took my daughter to watch them with me.
I left the films with more questions behind a teared eye.
God the part where they rebuild the OG temple and all the force ghost appear made me tear up, I really wish Disney just found a bunch of no names that were passionate about starwars and had them build the sequel trilogy
This is where Star Wars lives. Not in greedy corporations, but in the hearts and minds of fans. Thanks for the better story. As far as I'm concerned, it's canon now.
same
No joke, I was more entertained by hearing that rewrite than I was by actually watching the sequels. Can't even remember if I've seen all of the sequels... just lost interest.
Canon nope
IT'S NEO ARMSTRONG'S JET CLONE DEATH STAR
@@itchytriggyfinger6590 Did you just shoot at Obi Wan Gintoki?
Imagine being 1 sole UA-cam creator and writing a story that would have quadrupled Disney's current net worth.
Ik right
Just goes to show how far Disney has fallen. It is less than a shell of its former self,
@@pippleyfisching9214 they are so detached from the very fans they claim to pandering to.
Surprised Disney's not hired him yet XD
Your pitch is now my head cannon
I love the pitch it should be made into a comic but i personally thing we can salvage the car reck with some of the ideals you mentioned earlier which is something i may work on myself this channel has inspired me to try to better modern media in my pursuits to become a better writer thank you very much
"The prophecy only became true because your father believed that it would" is such a powerful line.
Really addresses the core issue too
Yes!!!!!!
And I LOVE how this brings up the opportunity for Luke to know about and not make the same mistake as we watched his father make in the prequels. Poetry.
Incredible how a single person with talent could write a better story than a whole multinational company
I don't really like the sequels, but his fan fiction is... well, it's your average convoluted fan fiction. It has cool ideas, but I don't think it would work as an actual movie trilogy, at all
Well, he's but one of the plethora of fan fiction writers who wrote better story than Disney. That's not much of an achievement, in all honesty.
Right Jar, Jar was a horrible character. Oh wait, I forgot we are pretending Lucas didn't kill it with 1-3.
@@meoff7602 What are you talking about, Jar Jar was a great character! You wish Disney "sequels" had characters half as goof as Jar Jar
@@ambidexter2017 I have no clue what Disney did. I skipped the beating of the dead horse.
If Disney wanted to play safe, they should have turned to the novels and made those into movies. The Heir to the Empire novel series would have been a perfect place to start a sequel trilogy. There are three books, picking up a few years after the fall of the Empire. The Empire is still there, and still at war with the New Republic. However the New Republic is struggling to build itself up. Thrawn would have been the main villain. We would have revisted some planets from the other movies, while seeing new planets and new species. We would have seen a new dark Jedi, not a Sith, but a Jedi who went dark. Like Dooku, he wasn't a Sith per say, but a dark Jedi. We would have met Mara Jade and Talon Karrde, who took over Jabbas crime empire. We would have explored Chewbaccas family and homeworld. We would have seen Leia and Han, now married, on her journey to becoming a Jedi. We would have seen Lando return with his new businesses. There's a lot Disney missed out on. And there was room to bring in Moff Gideon, Ashoka and the others also.
“shared danger is the strongest of bonds; it will keep men United in spite of mutual dislike and suspicion.” - Livy
BRO YOUR IDEA IS AWESOME AND MAKES SO MUCH SENSE and Livy agrees with you so ten points for that hehe
I enjoyed this rewrite of the sequels way more than I enjoyed the actual sequel films
Yeah, the rewrite was fire.
I liked it a lot too but I think it would've been cool if the sequels ended with kylo and ren establishing a grey Jedi order after learning from the mistakes of the original trilogy of the balance too far evil, and the prequels where the balance was too far good, or maybe that since Kylo Ren is directly connected through blood to those stories that's the epiphany he has when he decides to save the Jedi kids in this rewrite. I think that'd be dope
I almost wish I never heard this rewrite. I can never let his brilliant idea go now :(
Personal favourite “What If” video has to be Star Wars Theory’s “What if Anakin Liked Sand?”
Solid argument. Changes the course of history. A+
How about this one: "What if The Closer Look included The Mandalorian and the 4 part series finale of Clone Wars?"
@@YourPalAlRetroGamer Clone Wars and The Mandalorian didn't help ruin Star Wars, why would he include them?
The Last Jedi single handedly altered lore to tell a different story, and the entire Sequel Trilogy makes everything previous characters have accomplished all for nothing. The sequel trilogy literally killed the franchise. They aren't even making new toys anymore, they stopped production. GL milked that shit for decades, yet Disney ruined it in under one.
@@subsume7904 They are still making Star Wars toys, just significantly less sequel trilogy toys since they are not selling nearly as well as OT, PT, or Mando stuff.
@@themacewens
can you give me proof
My fav what if is "what if the deathstar was a family fun zone with lasertag and dancefights"
Oh my god what an enddddd. The force ghosts ending was sooooo good.
Great work both original and being quite parallel to the original trilogy. Shows how Disney was intent not on building on the Star Wars mythos like you did, but to erase it in favor of a dubious agenda, exploiting the franchise for their own purpose instead of making something good out of it. Well done Sir.
SOMEONE PLEASE LET HIM DIRECT A NEW TRILOGY AND BURY THE OLD ONE
Let the past die.
I totally agree lol this guy has some great ideas
Kill it if you have too
Every time i see that scene of the fleet being destroyed by 1 single ship jumping in the hyperspace, my heart bleeds
@@raf.nogueira same! It totally breaks cannon, and how the heck do they all split perfectly down the center? I’d get it if the center one did and the others were pushed away but it’s so illogical it hurts
Just put it in legends lol
Darth Vader: kill thousand of innocent
Luke: I can still help him. I have to try
His own nephew: being very stronk
Luke: Must kill
Yep. That right there is the defining flaw of The Last Jedi, which screwed Rise of Skywalker in the process. Hamill was always right about this, and Johnson was always wrong. Johnson simply didn't care about the history of the world he was working in. Force Awakens was weaker than it needed to be but fun fan service nonetheless, and left plenty on the table to pay off in the next two movies. Last Jedi swept the table clean, deliberately flipped off the fans, and left Abrams with literally nothing to work with for Rise. As a result, JJ had to cram two+ movies into one, leaving a rushed, confused, frenetic mess.
@@printandplaygamer7134 don’t forget that jj was executive producer on the last Jedi and their are articles written by him from 2015 talking about how good Johnson script was. Nothing was a surprise to JJ and he had major input on last Jedi. JJ is at just as much fault is johnson and has just used Johnson’s bad writing to take blame from his failure when he was the same one calling it amazing writing 5 years ago
Not only did vader kill hundreds of thousands of people but he also killed children and destroyed an entire planet
@@printandplaygamer7134 true, it was a mistake to get Rian after JJ, but JJ copied ANH first, and the spent half the run time of ROTS redoing what TLJ undid
Bruh he considered it for a few seconds, after which he regretted, what he did was just a reaction for a few seconds but his reaction caused youknowwhat, it was just a natural reaction, he even said it, " And for the briefest moment, I thought I...", FOR THE BRIEFEST MOMENT, Jesus Christ watch it properly
Your trilogy is amazing.
Man the algorithm really sucks for not showing this to me for 3 years.
But for the ramming, when i first watched it i read it in the prequel to the force awakens of a shuttle taking out an xwing through hyperspace and didnt realize it was weird
Same here, same here