Charter Schools May Be the Future of Public Education
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2020
- School choice is an education reform movement that promotes charter schools and voucher programs as alternatives to traditional public schools. One of the biggest advocates for "choice" over the past two decades, Betsy DeVos, is now serving as President Trump's secretary of education.
VICE's Gianna Toboni traveled to DeVos' home state of Michigan to see school choice in action and understand what the future of public education might look like.
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VICE's Gianna Toboni traveled to DeVos' home state of Michigan to see school choice in action and understand what the future of public education might look like.
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@ViceNews My daughter starts Monday. Even though I am the parent liaison at her school, I did not feel that she should continue middle school at that location due to being bullied. Well she actually can defend herself, she chooses to not fight and get a education. But certain individials was jealous of her because of me. I know it sounds crazy but its not. Having a parent more engaged in school makes a difference in childrens lives. Where their are some children who envy the fact that their parent is not engaged in their schooling or lives. I didnt want my child to get distracted with the drama occurring. There is 4 months left in the year and next year she can continue to high school starting at a new school but joining her brother who is a high school sophomore and autistic. Unitl then I will engage and impliment new changes and tackle the concerns within our schools. That is why i am on the school district board, and also a community liaison which started a new committee board who is creating a strategic plan to present and apply for funding from our city, county, and state. The governor just created a community engagement, education, housing bill to offer grants in North California.
I don't get it... what's wrong with charter schools? They seem to provide better programs and it's the shitty public schools that close down. How is this a bad thing?
This is so misleading. If you look at the population and taxable businesses in the area of Detroit in the same timeline you'll see that it was cut in half or more. When your population is gone and your businesses are gone you have no tax money to put into the school system or people to go to the schools. Also let's overlook the families that change their addresses (without actually moving) so that their kids can go to other suburban school districts in the metro Detroit area so that they get a better safer environment.
But sure let's put an extreme left slant on this with zero objectivity. Quit calling yourself news.
Tell Gianna I said her hairstyle is rad
Why aren’t they completely private schools in America, run by individuals
"No one's forcing their child to go to public schools"
Sort of hard to have choices when you keep shutting down public schools
Megan Dunklin Public schools aren’t getting shutdown as much as charters
@@orlandomc987 perhaps charters are getting shut down because they have abysmal results in actually educating children…?
www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2019/07/03/why-charter-schools-must-waste-money/
You see when you come out of ties education you will see that education largely loses its meaning. It ends up being about making a buck. Not much else. And that should concern you quite frankly.
Are Charter Schools Private? No. Charter schools are public schools that operate independently from school districts. The myth that charter schools are a form of "privatization" is a good example of the reiteration effect, a cognitive bias to accept ideas as true if frequently repeated (by mainstream media, and by all the top comments on this video). The main reason we need more charter schools is because school districts have so many restrictions. They can't fire teachers that dont do their job, they cant reward teachers for doing a better job. We cant get rid of the public schools, we cant change the public schools for the better. So charter schools need to replace them. Charter schools can implement all the ideas and strategies that have formed over the last 30 years in the name of school reform.
@@wakichunu it doesn’t change the reality that many of them fail. We don’t need more charter schools they have such a flimsy track record. And I would like to point out a rather odd irony here? You believing that in public schools a teacher can’t be fired if they are substandard in anyway? That kind of shows a cognitive bias don’t you think? I worked in public schools and if you were not good at your job you did not last very long.
The problem is not that public schools have these imaginary restrictions that you think they have the problem as the funding continues to be cut and administrator salaries increase while teachers salaries stagnate. Not to mention the obsession with standardized testing is so out of proportion it buggers belief.
“ we can’t change public schools for the better…”
Actually yes you can. The schools that I worked with had some budget problems and staffing problems but within a few years they fix them. When did Americans become such quitters…? I swear anytime something goes wrong they feel the need to scrap it and replace it with something worse.
I was really disappointed that the interviewer didn't reply with this..
This reporter, Gianna Toboni, is one of the most stone faced interviewers. Her glare slices through their lies.
she is sooo unintrested in this topic, I can tell her mind is wandering while she interviews these people !
@@henryortizjr1533 are you blind or just completely inept at deducting facial cues and female body language? Are you single too?
That was the first thing that I saw about her 😂
@@pixiechick92 you can notice it in her voice...
@Henry Ortiz Double Standards. She’s real and ain’t afraid to focus on asking the questions rather than looking “cute” to please your fantasies.
Those girls telling the reporter about what they want to be after highschool was very sweet. I wish them nothing but the best.
I agree. I hope they achieve their dreams
yeah fr
That girl saying she was going to be a WNBA player... Foolish
"nobody's forcing parents to choose charter schools"
literally moments earlier: "they keep telling me I have a choice but they close my neighborhood school and open 2 charters so where's the choice?" - a parent
They can move to different area where their children can get a crappy public education rich in s ocial justice and barren of real world skills
@@gdiaz8827 Wow, why didn't I think of that! Just move somewhere else! 🙄
@@gdiaz8827 thats Chicago lol a lot of people in especially those parts of chicago are living in poverty smartass lol
@@kinged5741 keep letting democrats and unions control the schools and that cycle of poverty will never end
That woman is a terrible parent who doesn't understand what Charter schools are and what the word "CHOICE" means. You cannot choose a Monopoly -- it's already been done for you and Charter Schools aren't Private Schools; they're publicly owed but privately operated! I doubt she was interested in her daughters' education before Charter schools popped up else why would she send her children to a failing school where they are bound to come out at the bottom of the academic rung. My guess is She sees this as some sort of Class/Race Battle of Supremacy and want to stick it to the MAN. How were her kids better off in a Failing School? Did she inquire or investigate why the school was failing
Parents are "choosing" charter schools because most public schools in their area are shut down.
Little money and no effort put to large population Public School and giving it to Charter small lottery schools. America is Doom.
Wrong
"choice" sounds really nice on the plutocrat propaganda news network though. (fox, of course)
Everything "public" is shutting down in my City pools & parks are closing. The only 2 people trump cares about funding is the military & the people around him.
Which political party runs Detroit?
This is literally preventing kids from moving up from their socioeconomic class. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
Not at all, it's the failure of the entire system not charter schools. Look up the total % of charter schools then come back and complain.
iVince905 poor can get rich too is just about the person
I Crash Not really. If you believe in some juvenile version of liberal free will then sure. Anybody can do anything if they just believe! But that’s not how to world works. Economic mobility has always been really low, and on top of that its been declining since the 1980s. Most people end up in the same socioeconomic status they were born into. The poor get a shit education and live in shit neighborhoods. When you get a shit education and your family has no money, you won’t be able to go to college and start a career. So you try to work some dead end jobs but sometimes that doesn’t work and thats why poverty is linked so closely to crime. The top 1% are so rich because of nepotism and because of the wealth and resources they were born into. If you were born into an upper middle class neighborhood you had the education to qualify for scholarships and on top of that you parents could pay partially. When you’re born into an upper class family you have inheritance to buy certain corporations and profit off of what workers produce. That’s why the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. The “american dream” doesn’t exist.
the poor get the most stolen from their schools, I have true stories about that on my page
Of course trumps likes this
You can’t have people who never experienced poverty or struggle to make decisions for the poor and people with less money. Makes no sense. It’s just not gonna work.
Yeah, this should go for anyone who wants to get into politics but, the DeVos's have not gone to public school, yet they have a huge influence on our public education. We need more of the working class in government.
I disagree. There are people who want the others to have a better life even though they never experienced struggle. On the other hand, you get a bunch of businessmen who belonged to the working class not so long ago and now they are the worst greedy exploiters and public funding education/healthcare dismantlers of all. In my region we say "working for a working class person is the worst of all" saying that the one who used to be poor will treat you even worse than the one who was already born rich.
@@inigoro5177 I see your point and agree but at the same time, that does not change my opinion on the DeVoss'. They act as if they understand the public school system yet they do not care, and have not experienced being in a public school, or having children in the system.
@@katiebaldwin5401 I agree with you as well.
@@katiebaldwin5401 you will be surprised on how many people who attended public schools or grew up in those communities and still end up fucking them over by stealing money
“Your school has bad grades on tests, its being shut down”
Kids go to another school and make that school have lower test grade
“Your school gets bad grades on tests, it’s being shut down”
@@stop_cutting_baby_penis well what if the school is failing due to not enough funding
@@stop_cutting_baby_penis hmmm never thought of it like that
@@stop_cutting_baby_penis It's not a god damn business
@@somerandomperson6936 Studies have shown otherwise.
@@notan_alien881 then why do charter schools do better with only a fraction of the budget?
So charter schools in low income neighborhoods are just as crappy as the lower income public schools. Roger, check.
In most cases they are worse, a lot of them don't have the facilities public schools have like gyms or even playgrounds.
So you don't think there's anything we (the richest nation ever created) can do to address the fundamentally unfair situation where innocent children are brought up into a self-feeding environment of poverty, crime, and lack of public support relative to "high-income" areas?
Its the McDonald’s type of school
@@MyNameIsNotDamien There is plenty that could be done, unless the people who have the wealth want a certain portion of the population to remain poor.
Except they are now worse
"I appreciate that point of view" is just another way of saying "I don't really care."
exactly
Agreeing with Bj here. Free market will get things into gear. Both sides are lobbying Congress. Public schools have the teachers union lobbying. That hasn’t gotten us anywhere good so far.
Are Charter Schools Private? No. Charter schools are public schools that operate independently from school districts. The myth that charter schools are a form of "privatization" is a good example of the reiteration effect, a cognitive bias to accept ideas as true if frequently repeated (by mainstream media, and by all the top comments on this video). The main reason we need more charter schools is because school districts have so many restrictions. They can't fire teachers that dont do their job, they cant reward teachers for doing a better job. We cant get rid of the public schools, we cant change the public schools for the better. So charter schools need to replace them. Charter schools can implement all the ideas and strategies that have formed over the last 30 years in the name of school reform.
@@wakichunu Chapter schools are private schools that receive government funding.
🎯
Devos’s smug smile really makes me realize that these top 1% people couldn’t care less
Devo's look like the people that would actually lobby for a real life purge.
Charter schools are better.
That’s the reason why parents choose them. Davos never forced any parent to send their children to charter schools. Public schools are a monopoly, and monopolies are inefficient.
If public schools were so great why does America do so poorly in educational. And if they were so great they wouldn't be worried about completion from charter schools. If they were so great they none would be shutting down because parent's know their children would do better being elsewhere.
Welcome to the world
He pointed out that parents are getting a better deal for there kids over the crappy public schools the would other wise be forced to send th their kids to
the guy at the end looks, sounds, and acts like a villain
Facts! You seen that wicked smile too? It's straight out a comic book.
I really gotta say, this is one of the best reporters I've ever seen. Not becoming emotional when interviewing people you might personally detest is so impressive. We need more journalism like this.
I noticed that she much like the pilots is white. Is her race relevant as the students'? Is racializing a good characteristic for a professional that is supposed to be without bias?
I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the schools winning. It's about the parents and students winning.
If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives.
If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers.
The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers.
I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools.
To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible.
It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to.
So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools.
She's a terrible moderator. Although I appreciate her work as a journalist, she really got on my nerves when she did the Hispanic liberals vs Hispanic conservatives debate. You can clearly see where her bias stands.
Alisa Wang All European countries, rich & poor, have free school choice.. and ALL European countries, rich & poor, outperforms US on education!
@@djtdjt8921 What does that have to do with anything the comments are saying 💀
We have more funding for prison than schools 🤔
What the-!
Than you want private prisons to be built and we tax them?
@@SquadDirector I'm not in prison, I'm asking how can prisons be built than, also its not a money issue when it comes to schooling, its the way they control the money and government control.
Director of the Notification Squad That tends to be true, although there are cases of well performing districts that have awful funding and vise versa. What also plays a role is the rich parents having the time and money to regulate the school through Boards of Education and such, rather than pure funding. Also, the level of corruption in well funded, poor performing schools is quite high. But, in general, you are correct.
There is ZERO correlation between per pupil spending and outcomes. Don't believe it? Watch this:
ua-cam.com/video/aaFAUeftTKs/v-deo.html
This video made me realize how much of a privilege that education is. I've grown up as a kid who never had to worry about anything. My city was safe and functional. Seeing how other cities function makes me sad, and really taught me to be grateful of even the most simple every day things I have in my life.
It's not privilege, people built that city, it wasn't developed by wishes and unicorns, you just made your grandparents throw up a little you ingrate.
Other people being trash isn't your fault
Victim mentality, maybe they just suck
I went to a charter school for one year, and the only thing about it that I liked more than public school was the more personalized learning. Smaller class sizes meant for more 1 on 1 with teachers, and more electives. But with more funding, public schools could have all that too. Public schools being public was never, ever the problem. The only problem has always been a lack of adequate funding
Charter schools are less funded than traditional public schools. It is not the funding that's the problem in public schools, but the efficiency of how they're run.
@@djplexiglass yup
@@djplexiglass But they can receive private grants and donations! Public schools (at least in my state) can only receive donations in the form of supplies and school trips. I do agree with the efficiency issues in public ed though. That is the main issue. Too much money goes to fancy supervisory titles and "specialists". Not the teachers and students.
@@breynoso19 I think you're right that efficiency is the main issue. Have a great day!
@@djplexiglass You can't expect a school to run efficiently without adequate funding though. And you have no evidence to support your argument that it's about the way a school is run vs. lack of funding. Try again.
The interview at the end was so hostile it hurts to watch, that guy was so deep into his lies he almost caught himself out on it.
You not the only one. I needed to pause It several times. The reporter has a perfect stone cold expression.
Follow the money trail, it leads to him. Corporate greed will be the downfall of this country
ua-cam.com/video/GFkONTuQJWk/v-deo.html in places where there are actual choices, the charters do better, but that's mostly due to them having parents and children that actually care which are normally the ones that do better, the video does a better picture about the bitter truth
I felt the same way. She was very hostile toward him from the beginning. The last 'question' she asked him at 11:48 started with her saying: "I think that..."
What kind of journalist starts an interview question with their own opinion and asks the person they're interviewing to refute it? I mean, is this an interview of her or an interview of him?
@@jaredjones1752 Yeah, it felt more like a debate than an interview; this is honestly a great example of biased reporting; where's the other side of the argument?
It's impressive how you managed to interview a weasel
she had him shaking eh haha
He was so uncomfortable and yes surprised he even sat down.
Right !
I kinda wanted him to do a R Kelly “I’m fighting for school choice I spent $7 million dollars in lobbying for this shit”
Haha I was waiting to see who this comment was about. Pretty sure I cleared that up
I went to a charter school for 5 years in Cali and loved it. I could just focus on school and work more hours at the same time because my family was poor. I was given a lot of resources and one on one teaching. Even gave me an iPad for the year. Mostly minorities like myself went there, and 95% of us went to some form of higher education.
the lobbyist she interviewed in the end has to be one of the slimiest “technically not lying” interviewees i have seen in a while
Not a single black child at the “best” charter school
David Baker lol I went to one of the best public schools in California and there was only one black kid in a class of 400. Public schools don’t do any better
There's one at 9:22 and 9:24
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Yay, two seconds-_-
@Goal Digger Approximately 5-10% of where i live is composed of African Americans
There is a phenomenon of white children always going to the best schools.
How can it be a parents `choice’ to send their kids to a charter school. When the only Public school they have closed down 💁♂️.
Some people live in areas where public schools close down often and others don’t. Charter schools exist all over the nation which means that some charter schools are located in areas where public schools do not close down as often. In that case, parents can choose to send their kid to a charter school instead of a neighborhood public school that has been around for decades.
because their public school is so bad
In my largely white, middle class area a local public school shut down due to declining enrollment (aging population). Some students would have to drive more than 10 miles to the closest public school. A few years later a charter was able to rent the old school to provide another option for families in the area. Now children could walk to school again. Sometimes charters fill the void of schools that could not remain open due to population decline.
In this situation, the charter provided a welcome choice.
I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning.
If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives.
If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers.
The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers.
I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools.
To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible.
It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to.
So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools.
Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school.
If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in.
Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery.
The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.
I agree it’s not a choice, it is a right for parents to choose what’s best for their child. But I also think everyone is forgetting that they are a PUBLICLY FUNDED private school. There’s no privilege🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Don’t forget that this country doesn’t invest money in education
America spends quite a lot on education actually.
@@selfishcapitalist3523 They don’t invest in the quality of education itself, but the image of the education system. Who cares about big facilities and state-of-the-art computers? If students aren’t taught properly, then what’s the point? This is coming from a country with the highest education expenditure. The government can’t just throw money at the problem and allow monopolies to take over.
@@selfishcapitalist3523 Yes, they invest a lot of money for the education purpose but it all went to some few people's pocket and not actually goes to school.
This reporter is the best I've seen, also ripped him to shreds towards the end, loved it!
a reporter isn't supposed to be biased
Parents are choosing charters because they are being marketed as a "better" school than the public ones. But as we now know, there is no real difference between the education at a charter than at a public school. I would say the only difference is if the charter specializes in something, like the aviation school. In my area, it was found out that local public schools were dropping their worst performing students to keep their averages up. And those students went to a "charter school" where they basically learned nothing, had minimal if any supervision, and then "graduated" without the skills necessary to get even the most basic jobs.
Exact same thing in my district. Sad.
The education is different they get educated .. In new york state exams charter schools score higher and have more to offer .. More trips .. Trips to colleges and safe environment.. Charter schools dont tolerate the bull shit p.s. does .. Im a para for the dept of ed and my son goes to uncommon charter school.. He himself has high grades and 2nd year on the honor roll .. And I know where we live that wouldnt have been possible in a p.s. in our area .. Theres no discipline .. Kids can talk when they want administration does nothing about behavior teachers cant teach in public schools.. I say to each is own for me I went to private school had a decent education and I cant afford $400 a month so I send him to charter ..The main thing is that kids get a quality education . Public school is good for some ppl not all ..
Education is what you put in. If you have lazy kids (and parents) who don't put in the effort to learn then you'll have the same results.
I agree. It all depends on how the Effort is coordinated.
In fact, the big reason a lot of Businesses fail, is because they don't have a proper Business Plan.
@@crystalvouse7015 I went to a small-town, public school in Missouri. I know exactly what you mean.
One teacher usually had to balance both the Curriculum, and disruptive students.
The principal felt stressed sometimes too.
And trust me. A lot of us Normal Students, hated the disruptive ones.
In fact, "disruptive" was an understatement.
Luckily, it wasn't as severe as other schools. Ours was probably 1 out of 3 classrooms.
And the disruptive ones were probably 10% of the Student population, or so.
Reporter: “I notice all the pilots are white. Why is that?”
Administration:😳🤯
lmao
A great question from a great journalist.
They didn’t expect that comment of “why are all the pilots white? “
Literally the student who flew them around was Asian
Jack Barbey people get so quick to jump at shit they don’t remember everything they just heard and watched 😂
“The nature of competition, though, is not everyone wins.” That resonated me to the core.
It's true, but maybe the alternative is that everyone loses?
C J no, because we have the money to fund our education
@@jyothi1723 do you really think that it is only money that determines whether an education system is effective or not?
@@jyothi1723 You can throw all the money you want into a school. But it takes a forward-thinking teachers that understands what is essential, effective lessons, and meaningful interaction to the students that creates a better education system.
Jordan Francisco Of course, it’s just that generally teachers are very underpaid for their work and studies show paying workers more inherently produces better quality of work. The same applies to education.
Wow, it feels rather strange to see airport-style security at a school.
I know right. Though a high school in my district is similar.
Some schools are dangerous.
its because America doesn't have gun problems, doesn't have depression problems and has very good education
"I appreciate their perspective", that means he doesnt... "potentially everybody wins" that means loosing is bound to happen...
Sebastian Wardana no it doesn’t just cause he’s a powerful man doesn’t mean he doesn’t want anyone to get through a school system them jus re funded wit millions like think
I've met guys like him b'fore (fortunately not nearly as rich) - he knows very well what he's doing an' his soft-spoken façade just hints at a more deviant mind than he would have you believe
wow ya’ll are sooo presumptious
losing*
The man at the end is trying to smile but every questions she asked just results in a look of disappointment in his face
But he's right. Public schools are failing and these schools going unchallenged will just let public schools continue to fail. And quite honestly I don't care if they fail. The public schools aren't education facilities. They're over glorified day cares and trash
Yeah…😓
@@thejawooshtroll5565 In my city Lincoln, Nebraska we have this program called The Lighthouse. This organization gives artists a chance to make hand painted hand crafted sculptures. These sculptures are sold on auction to sponsors to be placed in public places around town. One third of the money goes to the artists and the rest goes into providing academic support for our students in public schools. This gives wealthy people and politicians a chance to help our education system and it also adds beauty to our city. Imagine if more cities implemented this strategy to hire teachers and improve programs for students. Please read about The Lighthouse in Lincoln and spread word about this idea to others.
I go to a Charter School. It’s a lottery to get in, unless an older sibling has gotten in before, then the younger siblings get in no mater what. This is not the experience I have had, likely because it’s an IB school. There was only one school closing in my area that I know of, and it was a few years ago. It only happened because it was filled with poisonous insulation
This DeVos guy sounded just a like a politician who deflecting any tough questions by speaking in half-truths. He's not lying by giving out false information, but rather, deceiving by omitting certain parts of the truth.
DeVos: "Charters schools are a better alternative to traditional schools....."
Full Truth: "Charters schools are a better alternative to traditional schools.....[that we defunded in order to fund our charters schools]."
DeVos: "Parents are choosing charter schools because they think they're better"
Full Truth: "[Rich] Parents are choosing charter schools because they think they're better....while [Middle-Lower] class parents who are losing their public schools will have to no choice but our charter schools"
DeVos: "Children are getting a better education thanks to new choices, options, and possibilities"
Full Truth: "Children [that are admitted] are getting a better education thanks to new choices, options, and possibilities...[at the cost of the thousands of leftover children who can't afford or weren't admitted and will be left with no choices, options, and possibilities]"
Nothing he said was a lie, but nothing he said was the full-truth either.
Where do you think politicians get their talking points from?
Exactly!
You’re insane if you want to keep supporting public schools. Poor and middle class parents are looking to homeschool their kids, that’s how bad these schools have gotten.
@lakersfansince1991 The very idea and institution of public schools is NOT bad in and of itself. The way POLITICS and idiots who drive them DO, consequently, MAKE THEM BAD! It's always the way HOW it's run that can make ALL the difference whether how good or bad it is, in this case, public schools. I went to a very wealthy public school with a very good education I'm thankful for. But, conversely, homeschooling can be bad too if not done properly, as well! ☝🏻
WHO and HOW people run it, is what makes it a good or bad difference.
@@lakersfansince1991I actually want to homeschool my kids one day for sure, THEN, consider sending them out to the world (e.g., in a public school, trade school, whatever school) to make sure they are well-over prepared for anything that comes their way. ☝🏻
"This public school shut down. Therefore it must have been a bad school."
"This man was executed. Therefore he must be guilty."
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if a PS can't retain student, they won't get funding. Because that's a Student based funding is for. Do you think where do the PSs get their money? Property and local taxes. who paid? Parents. So their parents are free to send their kids anywhere in a school choice system.
Money isn't the problem. Baltimore has the 3rd highest spending per pupil in the nation on their PS system. But all students in 13 out of 39 of their PS HS had failed to perform in proficient level Mathematics. Only 15% passed English.
There is a lot of misinformation about charter schools and this video doesn't help. I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning.
If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives.
If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers.
The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers.
I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools.
To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible.
It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to.
So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools.
Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school.
If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in.
Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery.
The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.
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So you agree Michigan should close those 80% of charter schools that are underperforming right?
@@genieglasslamp5028 no, the state of Michigan should not close them. The parents should close them by not sending their children there anymore.
Charter school isn’t a good option. Trade school is the best option. Specially for minorities. It gives us a trade, right out of school, and still provides the academics that you need incase you want to go to college.
I went to a trade school here in Massachusetts in which I was making $25 an hour junior year. One week I went to school for academics the other week I went to work on my trade. I graduated and got offered a many good jobs but instead I left my trade and I’m currently in a top university in my state, majoring in Biochemistry going to medical school next.
Trade schools give you more opportunities and options. I have friends right now straight out of high school making over $70k a year, just because they followed their trade and have been in it for 3 years.
We need more elevator repair people. There's a shortage. Repairs and inspections on most I've seen are expired. If any kids are looking for a trade and reading this, definitely get into it.
Yes. Trade schools are superior. People are wrong about college. As the infrastructure ages and boomers retire, trades will be even more in demand
Convincing society that a college education is the one and only path to a successful future was as a great a trick as the devil convincing the world he doesn't exist.
MrMultiMediator lol trade school isn’t the end all be all
The problem with some trade school is that there very physically taxing job. That’s why nobody wants to do it. One injury and your done
“The nature of competition in education is that one day everyone wins”
Gianna Tobini, THANK YOU! The DeVos family is royally screwing over the U.S educational system with these “charter” schools. Schools that guarantee the best education goes to the families that have the money for it. Everyone can’t “win” in the arena of education if something that is constitutionally free becomes a for-profit system.
you known charter schools are free
Idk if I can live and give back into this country anymore. No Healthcare, lack of public education, needing debt to go to college. What am I even paying for? It's not like social security will be kept up with and support me in my old age.
"They dont build new schools anymore, they dont build no hospitals, all they do is build prison prison." Lucky Dube saw this coming
In my city Lincoln, Nebraska we have this program called The Lighthouse. This organization gives artists a chance to make hand painted hand crafted sculptures. These sculptures are sold on auction to sponsors to be placed in public places around town. One third of the money goes to the artists and the rest goes into providing academic support for our students in public schools. This gives wealthy people and politicians a chance to help our education system and it also adds beauty to our city. Imagine if more cities implemented this strategy to hire teachers and improve programs for students. Please read about The Lighthouse in Lincoln and spread word about this idea to others.
@@oOo-dj7pt As commendable as what your city is doing, still begs the question where is the tax revenue going or the is deficit somewhere.
And those areas are largely led by Democrats
@@gdiaz8827 So what's your excuse when its not?
@@oOo-dj7pt I'll tell u when I encounter such a case but so far the Democrats are keeping people in bondage
she went hard on that last sucker..i like that
Well she's obviously biased in a negative way towards the chaps
Ivan Kavrakov Because he and his family are swamp monsters.
Everyone winning (got me so mad)
I thought she went stupid easy on him. Perspective I guess. She let him run with that “choice” narrative without even so much as a counter. Pathetic interview imo.
yeah vice hates anything private, they want a full communist society where the gov controls everything and that's all they ever think to promote.
I must say, that charter schools *can* be good. For example, my school is charter, and I don't wear fancy uniforms or anything like that, we learn about necessary information and we get to do things like starting a community garden, etc.
I think one of the biggest takeaways from the video is that charter schools function as businesses, and that simply isn’t the point of schools in the first place. The folks running these schools are in it for the money/profits and NOT for the sake of educating.
@@sebastianschrader838 The reason that they're trying to run charter schools like businesses is because public education in the U.S. really does not compare to other developed countries on so many levels, and interventions in public schools have proven not very successful. Charter schools intend to increase efficiency of spending, increase competition across schools, and increase innovation in education. I would disagree about the intentions of people running charter schools. No one who's trying to make a lot of money goes into education. Even charter schools aren't very profitable, because their only income is from the government. The teachers in public schools and charter schools both want to teach and inspire children.
I’m blessed to have good education from going to a public school. I never really think about the fact that some people are not able to get a good education, just because of their living circumstances. Imagine wanting to get the proper education but can’t. 😒
Exactly - not all public schools are bad! But many are, especial now days when they seem to put more emphasis on sports and wokeness vs basic educational needs like mathematics. America needs more scientists and inventors. ;)
The problem with charter schools is the lack of transparency. I worked at a publicly funded charter and there seemed to be little transparency.
Lauren M yeah, I’ve worked at charters in inner city and it was a disaster. School choice is all lip service by our government. Students choose where they want to go, and many change schools over and over again.
Thats very interesting i never heard of it where i come from
I agree. Money is often mismanaged, long hours for students abs teachers, no unions...list goes on
Lauren M what do u mean specifically
sailaway285 public schools have to release the budget and teachers are paid by a specific formula. At the school I worked at the pay was so unbalanced (and I only know this because I scanned the offer letters, the pay is not public information like it is for public schools). Also the reporting standards are not the same so there’s no real way to make sure the schools are teaching what they should be. It’s been well documented that charters take money out of public schools and are known for cases of fraud. I don’t think this is what we should be putting out money into as a country to solve the public education problem. It’s a real band aid to the solution. I think charter schools make public schools worse and we need to focus on equalizing education for each child no matter where they live.
This is crazy man my school hardly had AP classes. I remember back in my freshman year at college there was one kid that was effectively a junior after having taken AP classes for two years during high school and I felt like I could have saved a bunch of time and money had I been given that opportunity. To put it mildly the system is unfair.
Elk AP classes are a scam
Pricila J yeah paying $90 to take an exam to potentially save thousands in the coming years...
Yep that’s a total scam.
naijaflavor60 could have used a fee waiver
naijaflavor60 well it depends on the college. Some only take 5’s some might take 4’s. If you’re lucky, they might take all three of the passing scores. A lot of the “top” colleges require a 5, which isn’t exactly easy.
Pricila J AP courses saved me an entire semester in college, allowed me to graduate with 2 degrees on time. It’s only a scam if you pay for an exam that you know you will fail.
“FiRst WOrld CoUnTRy”
Laughs in asian
Technically it is but sure go off.
I don't know how you think this country isn't first world.. but ok
Peyton Torain it’s cause he’s been living here too long and is entitled. Tell him to go be a poor person in rural asia 😹
Yo the American education really sucks. You don’t know the definition of first world.
"Every dollar going to charter schools is a dollar taken away from public schools" So the money follows the student rather staying with the institution that was failing the student? The horror.
I know right LOL 🤣
Just another case of how our government if failing America.
Bruh it’s the same everywhere else prob worse yo government actually got money to spend
Just another case a how the Republican sell out our country to big business
Republican government
And yet it has little to spend on its people.
Get money out of politics #Bernie2020
That’s one tough reporter!
Agreed. She knows how to cover great stuff of any topic that comes to her.
She really is! She is amazing!
Not really. Females chose to kick the fathers out of the home and accept daddy government as defacto dad. You get what you get. Haha
@@BridgesDontFly I think you're in the wrong comment section buddy. You're making no sense.
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Your talking about failing schools and poor grades right? Well statically speaking ifa child has a father in the home they do better. So my comment still stands.
Edit: space after (if)
What happens to the kids when their public school has shut down and they are not selected in a lottery for any of the local charters?
i already knew this was detroit when i saw the dystopian streets and the snow
That guy sounds like a robot who’s on a loop
That guy is such a phoney, that guy looks evil!
That guy at the end is like a creepy westworld ceo. And his parents did a great job naming him 🤣
The nature of competition is that both are forced to improve.
i go to the school in this video. i love that i've had the chance to pursue my pilot's license, but i overall don't support the people who are pushing for more charter schools. i used to go to a public school & even though i switched, i still want public education to be high quality and accessible for everyone. it feels weird going to a school that supports the people i don't support :/
I went to this school too. We have a difference of opinions on DeVos, but I think we can both agree that the people commenting on this video have very ignorant views for never having gone to this school.
As someone who went to a charter school: they are ripe for corruption, it's a recurring problem. A lot needs to be done.
Did you ever take any history lessons. If so, you really think something good is going to come from this.
@@skyjack8541 I went to a charter school and have followed the stories of dozens of other ones. It always ends with the CEO of the charter school embezzling taxpayer dollars... So yes, I have studied the recent history of charter schools. They're awful.
Charter schools are private schools. The families that want their children to go to private schools should pay for the full tuition, no public money. Why is that difficult? Anyone who advocates for for-profit education obviously does not have the public good in mind.
Agree. The school choice folks don't want to pay for the private schools so they want the taxpayers fund them.
Sure and they won't have to pay taxes for failing public schools? Fair deal!
Charter schools are public schools.
Charter schools are private schools FOR POOR PEOPLE. That's why the public pays for them. You really think rich families send their kids to Charter schools OR Public schools? No. If you don't want to give the Poor the chance at a better education then keep doing what your doing. At least Charters are trying to maintain and order and discipline that has long since left public education.
Its important to investigate both sides of the debate. Yesterday I listened to an hour of statistics on charter schools in NYC and was surprised and impressed by the increase in student test scores in math and English. While the pu lic schools in the area had scores at 1-2 the charter schools showed s ores of 3-4. What is abundantly clear to me, so far is that public schools in poor urban areas are failing students. Across the nation we have serious problems in our schools. Drugs, crime, assaults, failure and students being passed on to the next grade when they failed the previous grade or two. There's no consequence for failure and there is little consequence for unruly school behavior. As a nation we need to take this seriously as these young people are the future. School reform is needed in many areas. Btw.....I am a public school teacher in an affluent community so our school is very good. Other students aren't so lucky.
Don’t believe dose test scores. I When to a city that had free school choices. To say like this you can skip. All class and still get A in all classes.
I'm a 21year old American and for the first time in my life I'm ashamed of this country
Loooooooooooooooooooool
The Devos family all have that trademark fake white smile.its just cringe 😬
"trademark fake white smile" He does seem shady but why are you bringing race into it? Are whites all whites shady to be trademarked? Can a black man never do wrong in this world?
AdmiralBiat I think he/she is referring to their peroxide-white, perfect smile. Not their real teeth.
@@thomasr3805 Ah cool English is not my mother tongue. Sry for the misunderstanding.
@@How2walkthroughsABPhantomRobolox stated "The Devos family" you jumped off the porch with your cape and a bunch of hyperbole, probably sitting in front of your screen waiting to be fake outrage offended, prob one of those who never see race if the shoe were on the other foot, but quick to hop out there though, as if Phantom Roblox would give a damn about how you feel about whether the statement was racial or not!! put ya skirt down b.
It’s funny how trump assigns people with no experience on these position. I heard Devos never even went to school
... And Out Come The Corporates
Because public schools, especially in the inner cities, are doing well. 👍
Bolton Michael the private sector allows for competition, public school just keeps getting money.
It's absurd that you can't understand that big government is a corporation and a poorly run one at that. People just blindly give more and more to it instead of letting freedom and competition progress society. I'm honestly disgusted that the regressive left has taken the word progress and tried to make it seem like democrats and republicans could ever actually aid in that endeavor. You can't progress without competition and competition breeds better systems, lower prices and more charity for those that can't afford it. Sure there should be a truely small safety net for the few who can't afford it but to be honest if the government were to get their hands out of public education and relieve us of the taxes associated with it most everyone could afford to go to the best school for them. The traditional system of learning doesn't work for most people. The indoctrination center I was sent to wasn't there to help me or hold me up they just wanted us to remember information and write it down most people don't learn that way and are more hands on. That's why choice is so important. The public school system failed me and many others.
@@theburners32141
Those inner city schools are in terrible condition in large part due to a severe lack of funding. Most school funding in the U.S. is based on property taxes. A lot of people in poor neighbourhoods don't own their own homes. (Many ethnic minority peoples' ancestors never got the same opportunities to buy homes as white people due to 'red-lining' and a mixture of discrimination by banks and the Jim Crow laws limiting most black ww2 veterans ability to make full use of the G.I. Bill.)
m.ua-cam.com/video/ETR9qrVS17g/v-deo.html
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_and_the_G.I._Bill
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You're not wrong.
However charter schools should not receive the tax money that would otherwise go to public schools if they don't accept all the students of tax paying parents who live in the neighbourhood.
Like a case could be made that the parents of kids who go to private schools should have to pay less taxes towards public schools. However even if a parent sends their kid to a private school, they're still funding charter and public schools using their tax dollars.
Me in a charter high school: 👁👅👁
Lol same
Same🤣
12:48 Bro, when she punched that line with a smile. I fell in love.
ohhhhh that guy is truly manipulative and evil. You can tell just by his facial expressions and lack of confidence of good that he claims to do. He takes no responsibility, what a ridiculous individual. He should be dropped from making money and being taken seriously. He does nothing good for anybody.
exactly he needs some sense in him.
That man seems so evil... idk something about the look in his eyes at the end
Right, he’s giving off sociopathic/narcissistic vibes.
Stasia Bri right!!
Ally A. That smile at the end just gave me bad vibes 😬
I went to the school this man founded. He has done more for these kids than any of you have. I find your comment repulsive. He single handedly built us a school and bought us an airplane. No one forced me to go this school. It’s funny how you hate when people make assumptions about you, but you are absolutely fine with making assumptions about a man who has built a children’s hospital, a high school, and a multi-billion dollar business😑
I was educated in something similar to a charter school (govt supplied and paid the teachers, but other expenses came from fees) and I'm glad the option was there. The main difference between my situation and the one shown here was that the public school was also a relatively attractive option and perhaps the fact that my school was not run on a for-profit basis. I would have liked to hear more about how exactly the public schools were harmed by pro-charter legislation. It feels like a missing piece of the puzzle.
One thing they spoke of is funding. School funding, whether charter or public school systems, both come from LOCAL taxes. Many towns and cities don't have enough jobs and money circulation let alone funding for school. Hence the reason why you see cities with enough jobs and money circulation, can fund their public school system. On the other hand, you see cities and towns with under funded public schools also have under funded charter schools due to the lack of resources. Depending on where your are, the advantage of charter schools is that they can turn some students away. Also, they made a great point of talking about no kid left behind along with test scores. Most schools are forced to prepare kids to take a test instead of genuinely learn. If half a class doesn't understand a basic concept,too bad, we gotta cover the rest of the material on the end of year test and make sure we overcome test anxiety. Schools should be a place where people learn the basic foundation and get prepared for life. When My mother was in school, there was shop class, you can learn to weld, a little intro to being an electrician. My school years (20-30 years later) had us learning, preparing for test, and "preparing" for college, and NOT preparing us for the real world.
The look at his face when she hit him with the toughies😂😂😂 at 11:45
Iconic
In his mind "This interview was a bad idea..."
Wife: declines interview
Vice: Get the husband !
Reporter: Studies show that Charter schools do not out-perform traditional public schools
Devos Dude: Students are now getting a better education because of charter schools!!
I'm stunned
Check out Thomas Sowell, this is very one sided
@@MrDanielfff777 Thank you!!!
@@callmeswivelhips8229 you're welcome sir
@@MrDanielfff777 thomas "classical liberal which is actually just a conservative with a college degree" sowell?
You have students literally flying in the charter school, and students who don't even have an art class in the public schools.... From what I just saw I would agree with the man.
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Not a single soul:
Kid at 9:10: "But teacher, you forgot to accept the assigned homework from last week."
Beaty Devos tried attacks my school “ East Hartford Highschool” a couple years back and we fought back.
good
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I seriously cannot wrap my head around how the heck this is still happening in a (flawed) democracy
We need mob rule again. Tar and feather the lot of them.
do you know how public school system is funded?
Because Trump has been undermining democracy for 4 years
There is a lot of misinformation about charter schools and this video doesn't help. I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning.
If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives.
If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers.
The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers.
I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools.
To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible.
It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to.
So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools.
Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school.
If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in.
Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery.
The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.
It didn't fail my district. We have unique schools like that aviation school, not similar ofc. Honestly, looking at the aviation school reminded me of my schools 2nd building.😥
I attended a high school in california that turned charter about two years ago. I was lucky enough to have met wonderful teachers and be a part of a great program. I feel bad that this is the reality for so many kids. Kinda sucks that education has become a commodity rather than a privilege
See what happens when money takes the front seat, and the education system is experiencing it now. It always ends up that the entire system gets destroyed.
She ate his heart out. He just had to repeat himself.
Justice Johnson That’s usually what happens when you rephrase the same questions
I swear every video I watch on America just baffles me, how is this country still even functioning? xD
Cuz we be smart an sheeeet.
@@sdafasdfasdfsda true worldwide everyone wants to come hear for a reason. We got it all at our fingertips. Spoiled dare i say
It's not, crumbling quickly
Because people think negative things makes better news, therefore most the positive news are filtered out and is less reported on.
Pick up ya Bible sis this world and all of it's forms of government is falling.
I had the misfortune of teaching in two charter schools; both were a nightmare! One was set up intentionally to separate the wealthy kids from the rest; the original persons who created the school spent all of the money on experiences and expendable materials and left when the money ran out. The year I arrived, there was NO budget at all and every staff member was a new hire - I was the only teacher with experience. I can’t even describe the level of cruelty I received from the parents - how do you explain that you’re basically starting a school from scratch with no budget? They’d had it good for a few years, but it was all an illusion. The second charter I taught at was inner city; it felt like a prison. The kids weren’t allowed to talk at lunch and were escorted to classes and the bathrooms. Good teaching starts with building a trusting relationship; why would anyone trust adults who don’t allow for the most basic human rights? The kids’ behaviors showed the classic “you think I’m bad now? Just watch me!” attitude. When charter schools fail, it’s a win for the “business” end, because they just close shop and start a new one with a brand new multimillion dollar grant. This is the opposite of the consistency our kids need, and it stands in direct opposition to our founding fathers’ intentions when they first created a nation-wide public school system. I know there have been badly performing, unsafe schools, but in the case of charter schools, the rich are getting richer while the poor are trained to be inmates. Our children deserve better.
And, that interview with DeVos was sickening. Talk about out of touch! He was channeling Marie Antoinette! What a moron.
Then go teach at a public school in inner city Detroit.
@@joecole7122 Exactly! I had the blessing of teaching in a public school in a wealthy, very well-educated district where they’d tout high test results, but, honestly, you may as well hold a press conference that cream rose to the top - of course their investments paid off! If only we’d truly invest in ALL of our children that way! My first step would be to assign kids in super small groups to well prepared professional educators for multiple years, but the powers that be don’t listen to the soldiers in the trenches. It would NOT be via a charter system, though, because the funding should all go to supporting the kids. (I’d cut back drastically on admin, too!)
I swear to God, Devos is like a creepy supervillain.
It's not really a choice when you only have one option to choose from.
this happened to me in Los Angeles CA and thanks to the public school system and charter schools I lost 2 years of schooling and had to work 3 times as harder to finish and graduate from high school. They closed 3 schools that I attended... I had to do everything on my own and do self study to catch up with everyone else because they shut down the schools I was attending. Now I'm in college majoring in Computer Science but it's all thanks to my own hard work and deciding to get a part time job to pay for my living expenses. At the moment I'm just renting a room, taking public transportation to school and work. I'm 20.
as a former charter school student, it was a frustrating journey the whole 4 years. they focused more on discipline and uniforms than our academics. granted a lot of us did get the help we needed but it was harder on the rest of us because we didn’t see a future that didn’t involve endless college level rigor and mental abuse. we felt like we were in a prison because we were forced to see the day by day exhaustion and angst from our peers and ourselves, to where we would call it [redacted] penitentiary on social media. we paid money to serve our detentions, our demerit/merit system was extensive and stifling, also our summer school/remedial classes were upwards of $140 out of parents’ and students’ pockets. the lottery event is also extremely embarrassing tbh, they’re like some type of academic hunger games districts whenever a new charter school pops up around the area😒
I was appalled at what I saw before your interview with DeVos. Listening to him dance around your hard questions, made me want to punch my laptop!!!!! You are a stronger woman than I am, cause being so close to a lying guttersnipe, I would have broke his jaw. Couldn't watch anymore................
I felt the opposite. She’s asking questions to find the negative only.
Jennie Kelly his smile at the end UHG
Travis Laughlin you must be in the devos family
@@yrlocalrat1135 No, I wanted to hit him (DeVos), not the interviewer.....
The guy at the end irked me so much, I researched who he was.
Turns out his father co-founded AmWay. Tells me all I need to know
Oh that MLM company 😬 he should not be running an education system...
He ran for Governor of Michigan and lost, even though Michigan is run by a republican legislators.
Research the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Imagine telling a black person that their ancestors got caught by slave traders and that's all you needed to know.
There is a lot of misinformation about charter schools and this video doesn't help. I don't know if the interviewer gets what the point of charter schools is. It's not about the school's winning. It's about the parents and students winning.
If public schools are closing that's an indicator that they're not as good as the charter schools that they're competing with so the parents chose the charter school. That's how business works in the free market all the time. If one company does a worse job of serving their customers than another company then they go out of business and the better company survives.
If the charter schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers. If the public schools go out of business that's a good thing. That indicates that they were the worst company at serving their customers.
The customer gets to decide which company is good and where they will spend their money. In the case of schools the parents are the customers.
I don't know what the charter school situation is in Michigan but in New Jersey many charter schools have very long waiting lists so a lot of parents are demanding charter schools because they're not happy with their Public schools.
To the people who think that politicians are taking money away from public schools to give it to charter schools you need to realize that bureaucrats cannot move the funding away from the public schools to the charter schools. That's not how charter schools work. The money follows the children. Each property pays taxes and if the child living in that property goes to a public school then the public school gets the tax money. If that child goes to a charter school then the charter School gets the tax money. The parents that live at that address vote where their tax money goes by choosing the school their child will go to. It is the most democratic system possible.
It eliminates the public school monopolies and forces them to compete in the marketplace with every other business. Just like in the business world where you vote with your dollars for the store that you prefer to shop in, you now get to vote for the school you want your children to go to.
So it is the parents who are taking their funding away from the public schools and giving it to the charter schools.
Charter schools ARE public schools and they must take anybody who's in the district who applies to go to the charter school.
If they have less spots available than applicants then they must hold a lottery to randomly select which students will get in.
Unfortunately for the parents there are so many people who want to get into our charter schools in New Jersey that they almost always have a waiting list. But they never pick and choose which students on the list to get in. It must be a lottery.
The charter schools wouldn't even need to have a lottery for the waiting list applicants if the state boards of education would increase the number of students that they are permitted to have. But typically and unfortunately for the students the State bureaucrats always like to power play with our children's lives.
How can you expect high test scores when you essentially make the kids fend for themselves?
I just spent an entire year during the pandemic homeschooling my kids because they only received one hour of online "instruction" 4 days a week as was negotiated with the teacher's union. Our property taxes NEVER decreased and I never got dime for all of my work homeschooling 3 elementary students. At the same time our private counterparts were OPEN in person. Public dollars should be allocated to directly to children and NOT automatically allocated to one-size-fits-all public institutions. Many families cannot afford to pay 100% for private education and also pay 100% of property taxes to fund public schools that their children don't attend forcing many families to attend public schools. ALL FAMILIES DESERVE SCHOOL CHOICE!
Why didn’t she question him about the conditions of charter schools in low income neighborhoods??? She literally had one job....
How about public schools in the same neghborhoods?
I got chills from the last interview because she was so calm yet provoking at the same time. Love journalism like this.
$$$ The NEA ( teachers union ) brought this on themselves. They ceased to educate. Instead for decades they indoctrinated our youth with the weakness and delusion of liberalism and socialism. They became a tool for Dumocrats. America is waking up to it. They reject it. And rightly so. Municipalities should fire ALL union teachers and replace them independent educators.
DeVos's remind me of the Sacklers. I recently read there were more charter school closures in areas with higher rates of poverty than in lower rates of poverty. We are still leaving children behind. Not all parents are "choosing".
Public schools are getting rid of honors classes, not giving letter grades, doing everything in the name of equity. Including dumbing our kids down. With covid over 60% of “gifted” kids in my sons class got Under 60% on reading. Meanwhile we switch to an open charter school and they are on average 2 years ahead academically. When some kids want to read Jules Verne while class novels are 100 page chapter books it’s simply not serving ALL the kids. And from what we’ve personally seen it plays to lowest common denominator.
Charter schools are basically free. You buy uniforms, not even supplies.
Kids are encouraged to have no screen time Monday through Thursday. That in itself is a huge win. Many charter schools are have openings know!
We really just need to rethink this whole school system it’s all broken 🤧
School, justice, infrastructure, a lot of things are broken and needs attention.
Metal detector in school....
THIS IS AMERICA
No that's just ghetto detroit.
Detroit ghettos have metal detectors and/or bullet-proof glass in all sorts of places, including fast food locations.
The bigger joke is the gun laws "amended" into your constitution like it's a basic right. The forefathers who wrote these amendments had their priorities upside down.
@@zzzanon detroit is america, dont avoid the issue
Just ghetto’s bud, I’ve never seen metal detectors in any schools outside of gang filled cities.
For those who think this comment is true.
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DONT GO TO CHARTER SCHOOL. I just finished middle school at a charter school and it sucked I missed out in actual good education and moments of fun please don’t go.
The reason charter schools are privately run is because researchers noticed many of the problems with public schools are rooted in school administrators, who are often "public sector" employees and are highly unionized. Public sector employees who are terrible at their job are often impossible to fire (just ask anyone who works at the VA). This demoralizes teachers and principals, which affects students. Charter schools are EXACTLY like public schools in every way, except administrators are not an integral part of education and they are easy to fire if their policies aren't helping the kids. If you want to clean up education in America, get rid of corrupt school administrators. Until then, charter schools are necessary.
The lottery is extremely unfair. Choose the most qualified people.
The thing is, when you're dealing with 14-year-olds, what qualifications are there to have? Test scores? There's no cap to how many students can do well on a test. This is probably the best way to help their diversity problems, because none of the admissions people are allowed to show their biases in who they choose.
9:10 teacher's pet.
I know right like it sounds so fake he can’t even look them in the eye to say that
theres alwatys that one kid that makes your eyes roll so hard
He needs a swirlie.
When he says “the opportunity it provides for everyone.” I almost spit out my beer
quit hating
i just transferred from a public high school with over 2000 students to a charter school with about 95 students. it’s a very different kind of charter school than pretty much every other one around me, and im from a very privileged area, so i recognize the stark difference between mine and others, but it’s changed my life. this is my third high school and im a sophomore, and im never switching again.
my attendance at my old school was about 30%, and at my new school i haven’t missed a single day. my highest grade in public high school was a d-, and i just passed all my classes at my new school with all a+’s.
i have a very unique experience in my school, but i think if more public schools tried to function like my charter school, less people would be running from public school. for me, the way i’ve heard everyone else describe charter schools, is describing my experience in public school. i would’ve dropped out had i not transferred.
Bruh I have experience with going to a charter school, it was one of the worst experience I’ve ever had
What happened?
I love the weasel interview.... he know the power him and family have on legislation, bot no! He plays it off as if it’s a good thing to leave schools for profit!!! Smh
Why? Because the oligarchy wants it so.
I went to public school for 5 years and now I go to charter school...
it sucks just as much
Schools are being closed in Detroit because everyone is leaving Detroit. Where are you going to get tax dollars if you have no tax payers? Detroit has been losing people for decades now. This isn't new. It is also curious how the left dislikes big business but have no issue with big government. It is also curious that the left wants the universal health care of Europe, but they do not want a voucher system that many European schools employ. It is strange that we are constantly encouraged to sink money into public schools but yet every year the returns are dismal. Why would sinking more money into public schools yield better results? We've been doing it for years and we haven't seen any improvement. Many third world countries spend less money on their schools but they have higher test scores then we do.
Bill Clinton came up with the idea of bringing in new immigrants to complement Detroit's economy, increasing the purchase of houses, the factories. But you conservatives were more concerned with shouting "Her E-mails" or "Build The wall" than actually listening to the only president who paid the American debt and the one who most created jobs while in office. Your hypocrisy is like bitter wine.