Distortion has never been a bother and is not a problem. Stealthy survivors are obnoxious. Dont really see why people try and it take it out on the perk when it actually comes down to the playstyle of the survivors.
I don't have problems when people run selfish perks but like, at least be useful, you know? Repair, be altruistic when possible, don't just hide in a corner the whole game
I just started using it when everyone started running Friends to the End. I have 250 hours mostly killer and killers run a lot of aura perks. I don't run with a swf. I don't like a killer running straight at me after a hook without having to think. He can use game sense to know where he should check. I like chase, I also like being sneaky, playing mind games in and out of chase, I like hiding under a killers nose. I also run We Will Make It and Bond with Lithe, so I'm constantly unhooking to give a fast heal, taking aggro, taking hits.
People who sell out their team like you are just poison to this otherwise great game. You say they're "bad" and perhaps they are, but you selling them out is much, much, worse for the success of the team. Man up and grow up bud.
I like using it once in a while. It’s nice for info like you said but I don’t really use it for that. I use it to transverse the map and get saves or help with heals. And sometimes I just need a break from chase so I’ll put it on for a few matches to do gens and heals. I thought it was one of those perks nobody uses. Seriously I try to tell my friends to try it once in a while but nobody I play with does.
Same. I've been using it since before they reworked it to recharge tokens. I always told my friends that it's useful. It took them a while and even still, they didn't use it a lot. But I run it quite a bit, so they don't need to when we play lol
I never had a problem with Distortion as Killer Main. I not run a lot Aura perks so it doesn't matter. With Survivor I run Distortion, in SWF I can tell my Friends about Aura Perks/Add-ons. in Solo Q it's hard to tell the Randoms when the Killer use Aura Perks. I just hate how some People use Distortion... like Rats with Calm Spirit, Sole Survivor -.- it's horrible.
Actually I don't really agree with that one. This game planned to be a hide and seek game. Sure, it changed a lot, but still... And aurareadings are powerfull things, especially on S tier killers. So nothing wrong if survivors are countering it. However I agree with the other part. If somebody do nothing else but hiding the whole game is bad. But still. If a killer can play how they want, then your teammate can too. Even in the description of the game it is an option to let the others die for your own escape. Meanwhile working with the killer to kill others is kinda a punishable offense...
the main reason i use distortion is because of lethal pursuer. also im never altrustic because 9 times out of 10 if i got to a hook another survivor beats me to it. also im sick of survivors that expect to be healed under the hook.
Had a game on pyramid head with 3 distortions with the last guy using object of obsession, killed all except for one of the distortions and she spent the entire endgame collapse hiding in a random corner going back and forth until she died
As a Calm Spirit/Distortion player, kindly please stay on your hook for all three stages if you treat all players like this just for a perk combination. lol I play to counter the Killer Perks - that's how I play, you can play how you prefer. What am I doing all match? Generators, Unhooks, and many of my Unhooks are me trading for the Survivor on hook, because 9/10 Killers refuse to go far away from the hook, and/or chase anyone else that isn't "the first Survivor they find." Throw myself at the Killer, they'll hit me and then go back and defend their precious "meat stick." If I fail a long chase, it's either the Killer made a good mind-game/good move with their power, or I fucked up - either way, I always call that out as "a nice play." Not all Survivors are going to play the same way you expect them to play - and if you can see everyones' perks going into the game, guess what? Lobbies will be extended for hours...and very few games will be played...effectively killing the game. Bravo. Good job. "Pretty good job so far." This is not a "Perk Problem," this is a "Player Mentality Problem." I am sad my "Xcretion" responses weren't up there in the video. lol
While I don't use calm spirit, I do use distortion, and you can ask my swf, I'm constantly going for unhook, when safe, taking chase, and have had multiple gen chases. Blaming one or two perks on how "bad" a player is is just dumb. Maybe they had a challenge to hide in the killer's terror radius, you don't know, but he throws a temper tantrum in a match due to "bad" teammates, after complaining about how it's a team based game boggles my mind.
For the record, I don't necessarily treat them like that because of the perks, it's because of the play style, which usually ends up being distortion & calm spirit users. Believe it or not, but I always go into my matches trying to win. If a teammate does any of the things you claim to do in your matches, then obviously I'll try. As I said in the video, even if they aren't absolutely amazing, as long as they're trying and not being dumb, I'm always gonna try to help. I love the completely exaggerated idea in your head that people dodging lobbies over perks will extend lobby times for HOURS lmfao. Absolute nonsense. People already dodge lobbies and queue times are fine. There are more casual players than competitive ones, so if people leave lobbies, it really won't take that long for casual players who really don't care about perks to fill those lobbies. Queue times will only be longer for competitive players and it's completely up to them if they wanna continuously dodge until they get something they think can work. It's annoying seeing responses like this because in a way you're like the mythical calm spirit & distortion player who is also altruistic and decent at the game, but I simply don't see ANY of that when I get those perk users on my team. Not saying y'all don't exist, but you're probably like the .001% of decent calm spirit distortion users, as most people that are actually good at this game wouldn't feel a need to run calm spirit at all.
@@Aydreinn funny I've had mulitple teammates that don't go for saves, don't take chase and are "bad" like you say and all without them using calm spirit or distortion. It's almost like some people just don't want to help their teammates and they'll use any excuse not to be helpful but you only look at the ones using perks you don't like.
@@colorful_crow nope, I even said in the reply that it's more so the play style, and more often than not, it's people who run these perks. Bad players exist regardless of what perks are used. I'm only focusing on those perk users because that was part of the topic in the video. I'm making a point that it's not really a coincidence when you get bad teammates who end up running these perks, as most people who are terrified of being chased lean more towards stealth perks.
@@Aydreinn Regarding the player lobby dodging...you forget how entitled and egotistical this player base can become. And how very jaded and "yes, I agree" types of mentalities they can develop, too. Just look at how badly this "non-meta" perk is causing a ruckus in the community, over a few people complaining about "certain players running these perks." If we could see all other Survivors perks, people will get entitled enough to demand we "change our loadouts" to "x and y and z" otherwise they'll dodge and dodge. Do players dodge lobbies already? Absolutely, but not to a prevalent and alarming level as "I see your loadout, you obviously suck, so I'm leaving this lobby." When I play as Killer, I get maybe 1...2 Distortion players every-other game. And when I run Aura Reading Perks, those Distortion stacks are gone in seconds (Lethal Pursuer, Nowhere to Hide, BBQ & Chili, and Gearhead). I, personally, use Aura Reading Perks over Gen Regression Perks because defending gens gets boring and tedious - I like to try and go from one chase to the next as fast as possible. But Aura Reading isn't my only preference - I just don't like falling into the lazy crowd of "must use nothing but gen regression perks, because every lobby is Team Eternal SWF." As for my abilities at the game, it really just depends. Sometimes, especially regarding ping/latency hits, I can get every pallet stun/window vault, I can mind-game the Killer...but not all the time - I make mistakes, I fail mind-games, and I call those "good plays" on the Killers side. I care not if I die at the end of a trial...I just want to "get stuff done" and earn some BPs to boost up my Xeno and Ashley and such. To me, the game is more fun not taking every match seriously...if I were to be given incentive to play "competitively," then sure, money is on the line and I'll go for the gold, so to speak. (As of writing this at 2:02p.m., I'm actually booting up to stream some DbD - feel free to join and comment and chat. Will edit this out later.)
Not mad with distortion, upset with the few people who think it's funny to be in a group of 3 or 4 and hide the whole time and not do the objective for 40+ minutes.
I am a survivor main who play most of the times solo or duo with my friend and the amount of people who are hiding is ridiculous. I got over 2k hours and I consider myself a very good looper, but probably my MMR is shit because I have a low escape rate, while my teammates who are running distortion and calm spirit are waiting for the hatch instead of doing the objective. The perk itself is decent, I use it from time to time for challenges, but the average user of distortion is the classic "doing gens, you" gamer.
Might as well say kindred and sprint burst are bad perks since those were in his loadout, and perks being in the loadout of a bad survivor in a cherry picked instance is the only correlation between the perks and the survivors behavior. Killer side and survivor side there is nothing wrong with distortion, we have perks that counter other perks on both sides of the spectrum and we have other means of sussing out survivor locations that arent aura. As for your argument do you really want the type of survivors your complaining about taking chase? really? if they chose to take hiding perks and chose to stay hidden they more then likely aint lasting more then a few seconds in chase which in the end of the day puts the team in a much worse situation then if they stayed in the background and allowed the people who know how to take chase to take the chase. Can they be more efficient? yes, can you run for 5 gens? yes but neither is a realistic expectation. Id argue you for being spiteful in that match made you the worst teammate to have compared to everyone else in that match. You willfully gave up more hookstates to the killer then they gave when you went to second state. For all you know david thought someone was going for you or had a plan maybe it was on purpose, maybe they just didnt realize you were on hook, maybe they mis judged how long it would take to do whatever they were doing. At the end they still came to grab you and you threw the rest of the match to settle some petty revenge
The fact he's complaining about "bad" teammates and then is a worse teammate by selling them out boggles my mind. How the killer took his side I don't know because when I play killer, if I see people selling the teammates out I get rid of the sellouts first.
Guy probably had a archive and didn't focus or thought someone was going for the hook. He made a mistake sure, but I don't see why you have to be a bad sport about it.
@@Aydreinn Well as a content creator and especially in this community, don't you think its important to try and have a positive mindset? Maybe it's not a good idea to let everyone know that when things don't go your way you should just give up. We don't need to discourage more people, we already have enough DCs and survivors going afk at the beginning of a match.
That's fair. Believe it or not, I really don't do this often, and my content doesn't revolve around me being toxic. It was just one of those times where I was like yeah f**k this. That being said, it doesn't mean I wouldn't do it again. It's just not something that happens frequently. This is probably the 2nd time I've ever done anything like this out of the 3 years I've been playing this game lol
@jack0f4lltrades28 I genuinely think it needs a major nerf already, or something at its current state its incredibly unfair, and infectious fright also I think needs some rework or Nerf idk they both aren't fun to play against
What bothers me is distortion is the new urban evasion. People dont run it bc they want to stealth, its because they cant stealth without it. Its so easy to be stealthy, but most dont know when to do it or how to do it properly. A lot of these people seem to forget that theyre going against a human being that may easily miss things or ignore them. I find that its super easy to stealth if you're patient and break line of sight. 9/10 if you think the killer saw you, they didn't. The amount of times ive been able to pop a gen by stealthing is ridiculous
What? The perk blocks aura reading, so quite literally, running this perk allows stealth in situations where you couldn't stealth before. Let's say killer has lethal pursuer, and chooses to come to you, not impossible to avoid but for some killers it's out of the survivors hands like blight, hillbilly, huntress, etc... Another perk, no where to hide, well that's a perk where u can make a tricky stealth plays avoiding los to hide, no way killer would know, but they ran that perk so, then they see you.
@@checklot876 I'm not denying it can be useful in situations, but I feel like people run it for a crutch rather than a utility. There are dozens of situations where running distortion is either not used at all, or is detrimental to you and your team. It encourages not using stealth in a smart way, and letting your team take all of the killers attention so you can be the last alive. Also with perks like ultimate weapon, people are now running calm spirit in conjunction making the problem even worse. My main point is stealth is useful in the right scenarios and those perks influence stealthing when you shouldn't
Note: To be clear, I'm not saying that Aydreinn is making assumptions, nor am I being defensive because I think he's talking about players like me. Because I actually listened to what he said and I'm not like the players he described. Now... I use Distortion in both Solo and SWF. I like both stealth and info stuff, so it checks both boxes... That said, I don't hide all match and I try to help my team however I can, even if that puts me right in the Killer's crosshairs. I unhook, I heal, I get into chases, I do gens. I'm tired of Survivors that don't do those things and don't help anyone out. And it's frustrating when people just hide because it eventually leads to people making assumptions about people who run the perk or hating on the perk, itself. It also leads to frustration in playing at all because it makes for a "why even bother" mentality.
The killer being able to see the perks is SUCH a bad idea imo. Sure some killers will use this in a fair way to avoid matches, but most will just create builds to gain an advantage against the survivors and that’s not fun
I see understandable that in a game with perks like Nowhere to hide, BBQ and Ultimate Weapon and addons like Amanda's letter survs want a perk that can hide their aura. Started playing survivor months ago, before i only played killer and let me tell you that is more frustating playing a game against a killer with basically wallhack that going against survs with distortion. I guess that if your build is only aura reading perks it will be extra annoying, but if you need to see where everyone is each 20 seconds of the game thats more a you problem.
I wanna start out how you're being really bad faith about the perk. You start off saying people using the perk only hide and do nothing else, which is not the case. You then go and say how people won't unhook you, but it could just be that they were blinded and can't see the hook. You said in order to rework the perk, have it gives you stacks while doing something else besides hiding in the killer terror area. I feel like hiding around the killer is perfect because it gives you a chance to actually be caught and be able to be chased.
How am I being bad faith? This is my experience with a lot of distortion users. I also clarified that the absolute worst users are distortion, AND calm spirit users, which the David was. Also, blindness effect only works IN the void, not when you exit it. The killer didn't have ultimate weapon, or any blindness causing perks or add ons. The David can still see the hud when in the void. You can still see if someone is being chased and when someone is on a gen. The David simply wasn't aware of what was going on like a typical distortion calm spirit user.
@Aydreinn I believe you are having bad faith in how you start off talking about the people who use it in solo q. Or I assume you mean solo q. With the video you show, I will concede and say you're right about that player. You than only have one thing of evidence to back up your theory, which is good on its own, and maybe I'm being picky, but I think you should show more than one example if you want to get your point across. Sorry, let me get back to the point. I think your bad faith comes in with you not seeing any other side than this person sucks and I don't like this playstyle. Solo Q is probably the hardest thing about this game, and you have no idea if your teammates will actually be helpful or useful to you. So you play more selfish by running these perks why so you can win. With you just kinda ignoring that thing all together is what makes me think you are coming off bad faith. It's a playstyle that, while I agree its kinda ehh. It's a playstyle that counters the killers slugging and tunneling one, which I believe is the main reason people use these perks.
Not having enough evidence is a fair critique, but my plan for the video wasn't to be like "hey guys, distortion sucks. Here's 20 videos of distortion players in my games being completely useless, along with other people's videos and statistics on the distortion users". This is my opinion (which I stand by strongly) with personal experience and a little bit of anecdotal evidence. In regards to me not seeing any other side other than the person sucks, that's not true at all. I think your average player isn't good, but your average distortion user is far worse. Why? Because there's a big correlation between people who want to stealth a lot, and people who are bad at running the killer. Some people in the comments admit this and people on Twitter as well. Part of why solo queue is difficult is because yeah there's no comms, but also because people in general aren't altruistic. People don't want to take hits, trade hooks at the right time, take aggro, they'll run the killer to an almost finished gen, and drop every pallet in their first chase but can't last in a chase. All of these examples can be found in newer players which is completely fair, but can also be found in people who don't like to be chased, which is often found in distortion players. I don't think most people run these perks because they want to counter tunneling and slugging. They run it because they simply aren't good at interacting with the killer at all.
Maybe a hot take but I don’t think it’s a big deal for people to be “bad” at the game. It can feel bad in solo queue but that’s an assumed risk in any multiplayer game and dbd is far from a competitive game. You don’t really get anything substantial for winning unless you’re trying to get an achievement or tome challenge.
12:35 I was waiting for that score board before making any conclusions: I've seen survivors affected by the Blindess status effect that had no idea where the hooked survivor was because they were in the void when it happened.
Ok, DBD is a team oriented game just like Overwatch, but there is levels to it. OW's purpose is to be a very competitive game where you climb ranks to have that sense of achievment. You can have fun in other ways in OW, of course, but the main goal you want to achieve is getting your rank higher, independent on why you are trying to do this. On the other side DBD's purpose is to be a casual game, either you like it or not, and it's healthy for the game. The majority of players are playing solo and trying to have fun, "winning" is a consequence, if they wanna have this stealthy playstyle, let them, they are heavung fun and that's all that matters. Not everyone is so skilled, not everyone knows even the basics. We kinda have ranks in DBD but it's first purpose was to make matches more enjoyable for everyone trying to pare you together with players that have similar ranks. Now that we have SBM, ranks have no purpose whatsoever. So this argument that is a teams game and you should do everything for the team otherwise you are selfish, sounds kinda selfish In every game you will find people with different skill levels and that's the beauty of people.
I find the argument of I’m this and run this and have fun so it must be fine. Because counterpoint, I’m blight and run quad slowdown and Adren vile and c33 and I have fun so it’s fine 😅. Overall I personally push for distortion to be REWORKED not nerfed.
This might be a terrible take but this is from MY personal experience (from playing killer) regarding distortion being a team perk thing which is that I’m somewhat fine if they usually call out what aura reading perk I’m using but I have a reason to why and it’s the fact that they are giving away my perk loadouts and they can only see it when the perk procs (BBQ,lethal or whatever aura reading) and on top of that its also because they aren’t calling out my location every 2 nanoseconds and they don’t have infinite wall hacks (I’m referring to old object of obsession which was not fun to go against back when it was at its prime) but other than that I’m personally against the anti teammate aspect but I doubt a distortion nerf is gonna do anything with how some teammates chose to stay immersed all game
100% agree. I do believe this is a perk that encourages stealth gameplay which people who already love to hide will gravitate towards. I wouldn't mind seeing a change on how to get tokens backs, as hiding even more shouldn't be the way to get them back. I also want to say now that I don't want to see this change because I think the perk is broken. I want to see it so there's more of an incentive for distortion players to do altruistic things that help the team to get their tokens back, like healing, taking a hit, going for unhooks, protection hits, even doing a generator.
I’ve only ever played stealth in one match, my first match, and as a Jeff main I don’t use distortion. I honestly don’t see the point in stealth gameplay because it prolongs the game for much more is needed and often times is just a detriment to the other survivors. I’ve had games as killer where a person is using distortion and playing stealthily so I’ll never find them but in turn their team dies quicker cause now I’m going after the same 3 people. I also agree that having fun is a priority in the game, but unless you’re playing killer, you should take into account what your idea of fun means for your team.
Maybe instead of the tokens recharging outside of chase, they recharge during chase to make so people can't just hide all game while doing nada? Just my thoughts.
Not so much through chase because I think that defeats the nature of the perk. I think through any altruistic action like healing, taking hits, unhooking, and even doing a gen should replenish the tokens. If you don't want to be chased, you should be rewarded by doing the objective or being a good teammate.
"It's the way I like to play" well I like to play insidious Bubba and camp in basement, if you have a problem with that then I will deflect any criticism by stating that it is simply how I prefer to play.
The problem isn't really powerful Survivor perks that allow them to take multiple hits, be unseen for most of the game, or do gens faster. The problem is that base kit when chasing a single Survivor, the other 3 Survivors can finish 3 gens in 1 minute and 30 seconds. Along with that, really good Survivors can take advantage of chaining jungle jims where after the Killer breaks a pallet, the Survivor then goes to the next pallet and stalls more time. When the Survivors are just good at looping the Killer long enough for 3 gens to pop, you already lost. You really can only win if you manage to either get 3 hooks before the first gen pops, or run the 3 or 4 gen regression Perk mera to counter the Survivor meta. In the end, just play what you enjoy, even if you lose because you are inevitably going to lose as either a Survivor or Killer. And don't be mean in end game chat, that just breeds more sweaty and unfun behavior. I am a Shape main and love running Undetectable perks to be stealthy, because I love stealth in games, and I often lose because I have no gen regression perks. But I play my way, and have fun my way, which is fine.
with most of my matches being against ring blights and nurses and most of the chases perks like dead hard and made for this getting nerfed i see stealth is the best meta for survs right now, killers will have perks like pop and pain res 90% of the time, staying hidden and denying those 2 perks is the only way you'd play a fair game, im not a surv main, nor a killer main either but killers mains just want their game to be a smooth sailing with 12 hook and no gen getting done
stop being mad at survivors for running a damn perk when you run perks to reveal their fucking aura like Bruh you’re allowed to bring perks to stop survivors from doing certain things but when we bring perks to stop you doing from a certain thing it’s terrible. Wow maybe just get good at the game if you can’t play the game without some aura perks
i got no clue how can anyone have problem with Distortion. i'm a killer main(Nemesis*) and i barely ever run any aura perks when i play other killers either. aura perks are overpowered on killers like Nurse, Blight, Wesker, Spirit, Huntress, Artist** and survivors should be able to avoid them because 3 first ones are the most popular killers to play as(at least on my MMR as survivor). yes, Trapper will get the L if everyone runs Distortion and he has decided to go for aura perks but Distortion isn't the problem. small nerf i guess would be acceptable(longer recharge time, for example) but all in all it's a strong perk but definitely not OP. it's mad how killers can complain about that when all m1 killers get completely destroyed from prerunning survivors with Sprint Burst. or when Adrenaline still exists in its natural state, waking you up against Freddy. or Windows of Opportunity on majority of maps making it impossible to catch up to survivors who are worse than you but have a huge crutch in helping them connect loops. i love Distortion as a survivor, i use it to go for saves unnoticed, to finish important gens, to actually outplay killers who rely too much on aura reading. *i'm literally in top 20 in downs while contaminated and i started maining him this year only. before him i had a long survivor maining break after the Freddy rework cause i used to be Freddy main and trust me, i mourned his aura reading powers loss more than anyone. **and don't forget the garbage Plague add-on that chews through tokens and you can't do much because it's either sit on gens injured entire game or give her the power constantly.
I think, when a person says they are not good in chases and they prefer to hide, they DID NOT mean "hiding all the game while my team mates do all the work" but "hide instead of waiting my turn to get chased and work on gens or support in another way". I know it is better to have mates that are good in chase, take aggro, keep the killer busy, everyone likes that, but do you prefer to have a mate that hides and work on gen or the same mate that got spotted, endure 3 seconds in chase, now the killer knows the weak link and he is going to tunnel him hard? You prefer that person has distortion, trust me. And again, trust me, the gamers that want to sell your ass will use sole survivor if you nerf distortion. You speak about mates that do not look behind and bring the killer to the gens.... maybe if you have these persons in the team the real issue is matchmaking and not distortion? Maybe the real issue is you being low MMR if it is not matchmaking? Maybe these people without distortion will be even more a burden for you? I think you telling them "go play single player games if you are not good!" is dumb! When you started were you good? There are people that play this game only sometimes and will never reach top level, there are people that have full time job and only can play twice or three per day if they can, there are people that only plays because the son or the friend play and they simply want to spend time with them. Your mindset is so close: I play competitive and team oriented SO everyone must play as me! Everyone must have fun the way I have fun! I reverse your logic against you then: if you do not want to face distortion players why don't you go and play with your own SWF? P.s.: i am main killer
I hate the fact that you get tokens for hiding in the terrorradius and getting chased. First of pebble only activates for hiding and is way weaker and second distortion completiy counters im all ears and turns it into a survivor perk, my fixes: reduce tokens to 1 or to 2, i would prefere 1 and tokens should be earned by healing an or doing gens
Here an example why one stack in good enough, imagine this the game starts and killer killer has lethal so your token is gone and the killer goes after another survivor you do 50% of a gen and get your token back, the other survivor goes down and the killer gets barbeque, token gone again and your gens is done, then that survivor is unhooked and floods activates, thats the 3rd aura perk and the first one to show you, that are 3 out of 4 perks the killer is running and you know 2 of them and probably youll know about floods soon
Welp i guess im the worst of the worst cause im a player 2000+ hours and i run both calm spirit and distortion... probably wont take off calm spirit till the ultimate weapon nerf
You not, killers are (skill issue i see for killers complaining about this perk)they relying on aura reading to find survivor learn awareness and learn patterns of survivor. In beginning of match survivor normally spawn other side of map near the farthest gen from killer. Lethal not needed unless you want to snipe with huntress. Killers clutch much on aura reading. Distortion is fine, if want Distortion nerf get rid of 100+ aura reading killer have
I don’t think the issue is the perks, it’s just game sense and awareness that people don’t have. The toxic gameplay halfway through was just unneeded and makes people who do that worse than the distortion and calm spirit users.
You act like anyone who uses Distortion who is not in a SWF is just crouch-walking in a corner the whole game. There are some who do that and, yea they suck. But, there are many who play solo Q survivor like myself, who do not like the chase or are just bad at it and would rather avoid getting chased by the killer. They still work on gens and go for unhooks and heals to help out the team. The majority of folks that use Distortion are still helping out in other ways with heals, unhooks, and generators. You're just wrong on this one and that's ok.Nice video and discussion btw. 👍
Majority survivors running distortion is because aura reading it literally a counter and not just to stealth. This shows that alot of killers don't have alot of game awareness.
and who says distortion users don’t do anything but hide I literally use distortion all the time doesn’t mean I’m not saving I’m not doing gen or anything and I’m just hiding in a corner. It just means the killer can’t see my aura mean not that the survivor is hiding the whole game.😂😂😂😂
Can I just say Distortion isn’t even as good as Object? They do the same thing, only difference? Object shows you the killer’s aura and yours isn’t hidden. I don’t see anyone bitching about Object and yet I believe it’s much stronger. I would rather having someone afraid of taking chase and playing stealthy, then getting caught off guard and in a chase they aren’t ready for, than someone cocky and ready for anything knowing EXACTLY where am I at all times. You want distortion to die? The calling out killer aura perks/addons is simply going to be moved to a stronger, better perk. You can bitch and whine and kill distortion, but you WILL be asking for Object Of Obsession to make a comeback. In fact I’m going to started spreading that around. Let’s all become Object users in protest to the Distortion bull.
the thing is with distortion, its not even particularly problematic, it fills a good niche in the perk list, but the fact that it starts out with max stacks AND recharges them while in chase despite being a stealth perk is absolutely insane. it has the same charge requirements as diversion and stake out, but neither of those begin fully charged or charges while in chase. distortion is only a problem due to how stupid easy it is to get consistent value from it. ive had matches where ive ran a full aura-reading build and in the second half of the match people would STILL be blocking my aura reading because of how ridiculously easy it is to gain tokens. this in turn encourages killers to run full slowdown because, well, slowdown perks will have consistent results and value, whereas running any aura reading perk has the potential to be completely useless against a quad-distortion team, so why bother? what i would do to change distortion is to make it begin with 1 token (in case the killer is running lethal), and have it not recharge while in chase. maybe also make it take a bit longer to charge.
Wanna know how to beat distortion? Run a bunch of aura reading perks. What them shred the stacks make it hard to keep stacks. It’s really not that hard. Y’all killers today so freaking soft 😂😂 distortion is laughable compared to the stuff we used to deal with back in the day.
when i try to play stealth as survivor i try to use the invisibility to help with flashlight or pallet stun and take agro when needed it's such a shame to see people use stealth as survivor so selfishly. you'll never see me leave a person behind unless that person only cared for themselves. and as a killer main if i notice when a survivor is just hiding and letting people die i work with the other survivor find them.
3:20 The problem here is that some survivors focus TOO hard on taking downs or trying to save other survivors. It's like bro, do a gen, if I die you got the gen. I've lost so many games as survivor (and won so many as killer) simply because some survivors try WAY TOO HARD to help survivors that are just a lost cause. The door swings both ways. Someone hiding in a corner all game is playing scummy, but someone that is just good at avoiding the killer so they can finish gens, make saves, give heals, do bones, open gates is going to be the savior of your team. I know because I'm frequently that guy.
Distortion has never been a bother and is not a problem. Stealthy survivors are obnoxious. Dont really see why people try and it take it out on the perk when it actually comes down to the playstyle of the survivors.
From what I’ve been told, people take it out onto the perk because of the play-style it incentivizes
@@whymewm-identityv4584 accurate
I really hate it since I got Lethal but yeah like, it ain't strong or "good" it's just another perk
I don't have problems when people run selfish perks but like, at least be useful, you know? Repair, be altruistic when possible, don't just hide in a corner the whole game
My god I was laughing my ass off at the Wesker being friendly
I just started using it when everyone started running Friends to the End. I have 250 hours mostly killer and killers run a lot of aura perks. I don't run with a swf. I don't like a killer running straight at me after a hook without having to think. He can use game sense to know where he should check. I like chase, I also like being sneaky, playing mind games in and out of chase, I like hiding under a killers nose. I also run We Will Make It and Bond with Lithe, so I'm constantly unhooking to give a fast heal, taking aggro, taking hits.
People who sell out their team like you are just poison to this otherwise great game. You say they're "bad" and perhaps they are, but you selling them out is much, much, worse for the success of the team. Man up and grow up bud.
ya this whole video is literally only about that one clip. How did you get so smart bro? Advice?
Killers got MFT nerfed so they're onto the next survivor perk to complain about LOL
Right 😂
I like using it once in a while. It’s nice for info like you said but I don’t really use it for that. I use it to transverse the map and get saves or help with heals. And sometimes I just need a break from chase so I’ll put it on for a few matches to do gens and heals. I thought it was one of those perks nobody uses. Seriously I try to tell my friends to try it once in a while but nobody I play with does.
Same. I've been using it since before they reworked it to recharge tokens. I always told my friends that it's useful. It took them a while and even still, they didn't use it a lot. But I run it quite a bit, so they don't need to when we play lol
nerfing distortion wont remove stealthing though 🤷
I never had a problem with Distortion as Killer Main. I not run a lot Aura perks so it doesn't matter. With Survivor I run Distortion, in SWF I can tell my Friends about Aura Perks/Add-ons. in Solo Q it's hard to tell the Randoms when the Killer use Aura Perks.
I just hate how some People use Distortion... like Rats with Calm Spirit, Sole Survivor -.- it's horrible.
Actually I don't really agree with that one. This game planned to be a hide and seek game. Sure, it changed a lot, but still... And aurareadings are powerfull things, especially on S tier killers. So nothing wrong if survivors are countering it.
However I agree with the other part. If somebody do nothing else but hiding the whole game is bad. But still. If a killer can play how they want, then your teammate can too. Even in the description of the game it is an option to let the others die for your own escape. Meanwhile working with the killer to kill others is kinda a punishable offense...
If you are upset with distortion, you need to stop using aura perks as a crutch. It's nothing game changing on either side.
Average "just don't play the game 🤓" mentally ill take
the main reason i use distortion is because of lethal pursuer. also im never altrustic because 9 times out of 10 if i got to a hook another survivor beats me to it. also im sick of survivors that expect to be healed under the hook.
Had a game on pyramid head with 3 distortions with the last guy using object of obsession, killed all except for one of the distortions and she spent the entire endgame collapse hiding in a random corner going back and forth until she died
As a Calm Spirit/Distortion player, kindly please stay on your hook for all three stages if you treat all players like this just for a perk combination. lol
I play to counter the Killer Perks - that's how I play, you can play how you prefer. What am I doing all match? Generators, Unhooks, and many of my Unhooks are me trading for the Survivor on hook, because 9/10 Killers refuse to go far away from the hook, and/or chase anyone else that isn't "the first Survivor they find." Throw myself at the Killer, they'll hit me and then go back and defend their precious "meat stick." If I fail a long chase, it's either the Killer made a good mind-game/good move with their power, or I fucked up - either way, I always call that out as "a nice play."
Not all Survivors are going to play the same way you expect them to play - and if you can see everyones' perks going into the game, guess what? Lobbies will be extended for hours...and very few games will be played...effectively killing the game. Bravo. Good job. "Pretty good job so far."
This is not a "Perk Problem," this is a "Player Mentality Problem."
I am sad my "Xcretion" responses weren't up there in the video. lol
While I don't use calm spirit, I do use distortion, and you can ask my swf, I'm constantly going for unhook, when safe, taking chase, and have had multiple gen chases. Blaming one or two perks on how "bad" a player is is just dumb. Maybe they had a challenge to hide in the killer's terror radius, you don't know, but he throws a temper tantrum in a match due to "bad" teammates, after complaining about how it's a team based game boggles my mind.
For the record, I don't necessarily treat them like that because of the perks, it's because of the play style, which usually ends up being distortion & calm spirit users. Believe it or not, but I always go into my matches trying to win. If a teammate does any of the things you claim to do in your matches, then obviously I'll try. As I said in the video, even if they aren't absolutely amazing, as long as they're trying and not being dumb, I'm always gonna try to help.
I love the completely exaggerated idea in your head that people dodging lobbies over perks will extend lobby times for HOURS lmfao. Absolute nonsense. People already dodge lobbies and queue times are fine. There are more casual players than competitive ones, so if people leave lobbies, it really won't take that long for casual players who really don't care about perks to fill those lobbies. Queue times will only be longer for competitive players and it's completely up to them if they wanna continuously dodge until they get something they think can work.
It's annoying seeing responses like this because in a way you're like the mythical calm spirit & distortion player who is also altruistic and decent at the game, but I simply don't see ANY of that when I get those perk users on my team. Not saying y'all don't exist, but you're probably like the .001% of decent calm spirit distortion users, as most people that are actually good at this game wouldn't feel a need to run calm spirit at all.
@@Aydreinn funny I've had mulitple teammates that don't go for saves, don't take chase and are "bad" like you say and all without them using calm spirit or distortion. It's almost like some people just don't want to help their teammates and they'll use any excuse not to be helpful but you only look at the ones using perks you don't like.
@@colorful_crow nope, I even said in the reply that it's more so the play style, and more often than not, it's people who run these perks. Bad players exist regardless of what perks are used. I'm only focusing on those perk users because that was part of the topic in the video. I'm making a point that it's not really a coincidence when you get bad teammates who end up running these perks, as most people who are terrified of being chased lean more towards stealth perks.
@@Aydreinn Regarding the player lobby dodging...you forget how entitled and egotistical this player base can become. And how very jaded and "yes, I agree" types of mentalities they can develop, too. Just look at how badly this "non-meta" perk is causing a ruckus in the community, over a few people complaining about "certain players running these perks." If we could see all other Survivors perks, people will get entitled enough to demand we "change our loadouts" to "x and y and z" otherwise they'll dodge and dodge. Do players dodge lobbies already? Absolutely, but not to a prevalent and alarming level as "I see your loadout, you obviously suck, so I'm leaving this lobby."
When I play as Killer, I get maybe 1...2 Distortion players every-other game. And when I run Aura Reading Perks, those Distortion stacks are gone in seconds (Lethal Pursuer, Nowhere to Hide, BBQ & Chili, and Gearhead). I, personally, use Aura Reading Perks over Gen Regression Perks because defending gens gets boring and tedious - I like to try and go from one chase to the next as fast as possible. But Aura Reading isn't my only preference - I just don't like falling into the lazy crowd of "must use nothing but gen regression perks, because every lobby is Team Eternal SWF."
As for my abilities at the game, it really just depends. Sometimes, especially regarding ping/latency hits, I can get every pallet stun/window vault, I can mind-game the Killer...but not all the time - I make mistakes, I fail mind-games, and I call those "good plays" on the Killers side. I care not if I die at the end of a trial...I just want to "get stuff done" and earn some BPs to boost up my Xeno and Ashley and such. To me, the game is more fun not taking every match seriously...if I were to be given incentive to play "competitively," then sure, money is on the line and I'll go for the gold, so to speak.
(As of writing this at 2:02p.m., I'm actually booting up to stream some DbD - feel free to join and comment and chat. Will edit this out later.)
Not mad with distortion, upset with the few people who think it's funny to be in a group of 3 or 4 and hide the whole time and not do the objective for 40+ minutes.
I am a survivor main who play most of the times solo or duo with my friend and the amount of people who are hiding is ridiculous. I got over 2k hours and I consider myself a very good looper, but probably my MMR is shit because I have a low escape rate, while my teammates who are running distortion and calm spirit are waiting for the hatch instead of doing the objective. The perk itself is decent, I use it from time to time for challenges, but the average user of distortion is the classic "doing gens, you" gamer.
real ones know my distortion + deliverance went crazy in the swf
Low-key the best perk combination
Might as well say kindred and sprint burst are bad perks since those were in his loadout, and perks being in the loadout of a bad survivor in a cherry picked instance is the only correlation between the perks and the survivors behavior. Killer side and survivor side there is nothing wrong with distortion, we have perks that counter other perks on both sides of the spectrum and we have other means of sussing out survivor locations that arent aura.
As for your argument do you really want the type of survivors your complaining about taking chase? really? if they chose to take hiding perks and chose to stay hidden they more then likely aint lasting more then a few seconds in chase which in the end of the day puts the team in a much worse situation then if they stayed in the background and allowed the people who know how to take chase to take the chase. Can they be more efficient? yes, can you run for 5 gens? yes but neither is a realistic expectation.
Id argue you for being spiteful in that match made you the worst teammate to have compared to everyone else in that match. You willfully gave up more hookstates to the killer then they gave when you went to second state. For all you know david thought someone was going for you or had a plan maybe it was on purpose, maybe they just didnt realize you were on hook, maybe they mis judged how long it would take to do whatever they were doing. At the end they still came to grab you and you threw the rest of the match to settle some petty revenge
The fact he's complaining about "bad" teammates and then is a worse teammate by selling them out boggles my mind. How the killer took his side I don't know because when I play killer, if I see people selling the teammates out I get rid of the sellouts first.
He literally threw the hook as David was coming to him lol
Guy probably had a archive and didn't focus or thought someone was going for the hook. He made a mistake sure, but I don't see why you have to be a bad sport about it.
When too many randoms screw you over so one of them gotta pay
@@Aydreinn Well as a content creator and especially in this community, don't you think its important to try and have a positive mindset? Maybe it's not a good idea to let everyone know that when things don't go your way you should just give up. We don't need to discourage more people, we already have enough DCs and survivors going afk at the beginning of a match.
That's fair. Believe it or not, I really don't do this often, and my content doesn't revolve around me being toxic. It was just one of those times where I was like yeah f**k this. That being said, it doesn't mean I wouldn't do it again. It's just not something that happens frequently. This is probably the 2nd time I've ever done anything like this out of the 3 years I've been playing this game lol
Distortion is annoying, but Infectious Fright and Ultimate Lifeform exist so 🤷♂️ what's the problem?
Do you mean Ultimate Weapon? Or is that another perk
Yea that one.
@jack0f4lltrades28 I genuinely think it needs a major nerf already, or something at its current state its incredibly unfair, and infectious fright also I think needs some rework or Nerf idk they both aren't fun to play against
Spies from the shadows.
What bothers me is distortion is the new urban evasion. People dont run it bc they want to stealth, its because they cant stealth without it. Its so easy to be stealthy, but most dont know when to do it or how to do it properly. A lot of these people seem to forget that theyre going against a human being that may easily miss things or ignore them. I find that its super easy to stealth if you're patient and break line of sight. 9/10 if you think the killer saw you, they didn't. The amount of times ive been able to pop a gen by stealthing is ridiculous
What? The perk blocks aura reading, so quite literally, running this perk allows stealth in situations where you couldn't stealth before. Let's say killer has lethal pursuer, and chooses to come to you, not impossible to avoid but for some killers it's out of the survivors hands like blight, hillbilly, huntress, etc... Another perk, no where to hide, well that's a perk where u can make a tricky stealth plays avoiding los to hide, no way killer would know, but they ran that perk so, then they see you.
@@checklot876 I'm not denying it can be useful in situations, but I feel like people run it for a crutch rather than a utility. There are dozens of situations where running distortion is either not used at all, or is detrimental to you and your team. It encourages not using stealth in a smart way, and letting your team take all of the killers attention so you can be the last alive. Also with perks like ultimate weapon, people are now running calm spirit in conjunction making the problem even worse. My main point is stealth is useful in the right scenarios and those perks influence stealthing when you shouldn't
Note: To be clear, I'm not saying that Aydreinn is making assumptions, nor am I being defensive because I think he's talking about players like me. Because I actually listened to what he said and I'm not like the players he described. Now...
I use Distortion in both Solo and SWF. I like both stealth and info stuff, so it checks both boxes... That said, I don't hide all match and I try to help my team however I can, even if that puts me right in the Killer's crosshairs. I unhook, I heal, I get into chases, I do gens. I'm tired of Survivors that don't do those things and don't help anyone out. And it's frustrating when people just hide because it eventually leads to people making assumptions about people who run the perk or hating on the perk, itself. It also leads to frustration in playing at all because it makes for a "why even bother" mentality.
The killer being able to see the perks is SUCH a bad idea imo. Sure some killers will use this in a fair way to avoid matches, but most will just create builds to gain an advantage against the survivors and that’s not fun
Sorry I should've clarified. I meant survivors only. Killers seeing the perks is ridiculous lol
I see understandable that in a game with perks like Nowhere to hide, BBQ and Ultimate Weapon and addons like Amanda's letter survs want a perk that can hide their aura. Started playing survivor months ago, before i only played killer and let me tell you that is more frustating playing a game against a killer with basically wallhack that going against survs with distortion. I guess that if your build is only aura reading perks it will be extra annoying, but if you need to see where everyone is each 20 seconds of the game thats more a you problem.
I wanna start out how you're being really bad faith about the perk. You start off saying people using the perk only hide and do nothing else, which is not the case. You then go and say how people won't unhook you, but it could just be that they were blinded and can't see the hook. You said in order to rework the perk, have it gives you stacks while doing something else besides hiding in the killer terror area. I feel like hiding around the killer is perfect because it gives you a chance to actually be caught and be able to be chased.
How am I being bad faith? This is my experience with a lot of distortion users. I also clarified that the absolute worst users are distortion, AND calm spirit users, which the David was. Also, blindness effect only works IN the void, not when you exit it. The killer didn't have ultimate weapon, or any blindness causing perks or add ons. The David can still see the hud when in the void. You can still see if someone is being chased and when someone is on a gen. The David simply wasn't aware of what was going on like a typical distortion calm spirit user.
@Aydreinn I believe you are having bad faith in how you start off talking about the people who use it in solo q. Or I assume you mean solo q. With the video you show, I will concede and say you're right about that player. You than only have one thing of evidence to back up your theory, which is good on its own, and maybe I'm being picky, but I think you should show more than one example if you want to get your point across. Sorry, let me get back to the point. I think your bad faith comes in with you not seeing any other side than this person sucks and I don't like this playstyle. Solo Q is probably the hardest thing about this game, and you have no idea if your teammates will actually be helpful or useful to you. So you play more selfish by running these perks why so you can win. With you just kinda ignoring that thing all together is what makes me think you are coming off bad faith. It's a playstyle that, while I agree its kinda ehh. It's a playstyle that counters the killers slugging and tunneling one, which I believe is the main reason people use these perks.
Not having enough evidence is a fair critique, but my plan for the video wasn't to be like "hey guys, distortion sucks. Here's 20 videos of distortion players in my games being completely useless, along with other people's videos and statistics on the distortion users". This is my opinion (which I stand by strongly) with personal experience and a little bit of anecdotal evidence.
In regards to me not seeing any other side other than the person sucks, that's not true at all. I think your average player isn't good, but your average distortion user is far worse. Why? Because there's a big correlation between people who want to stealth a lot, and people who are bad at running the killer. Some people in the comments admit this and people on Twitter as well. Part of why solo queue is difficult is because yeah there's no comms, but also because people in general aren't altruistic. People don't want to take hits, trade hooks at the right time, take aggro, they'll run the killer to an almost finished gen, and drop every pallet in their first chase but can't last in a chase. All of these examples can be found in newer players which is completely fair, but can also be found in people who don't like to be chased, which is often found in distortion players. I don't think most people run these perks because they want to counter tunneling and slugging. They run it because they simply aren't good at interacting with the killer at all.
Maybe a hot take but I don’t think it’s a big deal for people to be “bad” at the game. It can feel bad in solo queue but that’s an assumed risk in any multiplayer game and dbd is far from a competitive game. You don’t really get anything substantial for winning unless you’re trying to get an achievement or tome challenge.
12:35 I was waiting for that score board before making any conclusions: I've seen survivors affected by the Blindess status effect that had no idea where the hooked survivor was because they were in the void when it happened.
I was waiting this video so much
Ok, DBD is a team oriented game just like Overwatch, but there is levels to it.
OW's purpose is to be a very competitive game where you climb ranks to have that sense of achievment. You can have fun in other ways in OW, of course, but the main goal you want to achieve is getting your rank higher, independent on why you are trying to do this.
On the other side DBD's purpose is to be a casual game, either you like it or not, and it's healthy for the game. The majority of players are playing solo and trying to have fun, "winning" is a consequence, if they wanna have this stealthy playstyle, let them, they are heavung fun and that's all that matters. Not everyone is so skilled, not everyone knows even the basics.
We kinda have ranks in DBD but it's first purpose was to make matches more enjoyable for everyone trying to pare you together with players that have similar ranks. Now that we have SBM, ranks have no purpose whatsoever.
So this argument that is a teams game and you should do everything for the team otherwise you are selfish, sounds kinda selfish
In every game you will find people with different skill levels and that's the beauty of people.
I find the argument of I’m this and run this and have fun so it must be fine. Because counterpoint, I’m blight and run quad slowdown and Adren vile and c33 and I have fun so it’s fine 😅. Overall I personally push for distortion to be REWORKED not nerfed.
This might be a terrible take but this is from MY personal experience (from playing killer) regarding distortion being a team perk thing which is that I’m somewhat fine if they usually call out what aura reading perk I’m using but I have a reason to why and it’s the fact that they are giving away my perk loadouts and they can only see it when the perk procs (BBQ,lethal or whatever aura reading) and on top of that its also because they aren’t calling out my location every 2 nanoseconds and they don’t have infinite wall hacks (I’m referring to old object of obsession which was not fun to go against back when it was at its prime) but other than that I’m personally against the anti teammate aspect but I doubt a distortion nerf is gonna do anything with how some teammates chose to stay immersed all game
100% agree. I do believe this is a perk that encourages stealth gameplay which people who already love to hide will gravitate towards. I wouldn't mind seeing a change on how to get tokens backs, as hiding even more shouldn't be the way to get them back. I also want to say now that I don't want to see this change because I think the perk is broken. I want to see it so there's more of an incentive for distortion players to do altruistic things that help the team to get their tokens back, like healing, taking a hit, going for unhooks, protection hits, even doing a generator.
I’ve only ever played stealth in one match, my first match, and as a Jeff main I don’t use distortion. I honestly don’t see the point in stealth gameplay because it prolongs the game for much more is needed and often times is just a detriment to the other survivors. I’ve had games as killer where a person is using distortion and playing stealthily so I’ll never find them but in turn their team dies quicker cause now I’m going after the same 3 people. I also agree that having fun is a priority in the game, but unless you’re playing killer, you should take into account what your idea of fun means for your team.
this..is.......wow.
Maybe instead of the tokens recharging outside of chase, they recharge during chase to make so people can't just hide all game while doing nada? Just my thoughts.
Not so much through chase because I think that defeats the nature of the perk. I think through any altruistic action like healing, taking hits, unhooking, and even doing a gen should replenish the tokens. If you don't want to be chased, you should be rewarded by doing the objective or being a good teammate.
@@Aydreinn Something to at least stop them from just hiding all game really
"It's the way I like to play" well I like to play insidious Bubba and camp in basement, if you have a problem with that then I will deflect any criticism by stating that it is simply how I prefer to play.
The problem isn't really powerful Survivor perks that allow them to take multiple hits, be unseen for most of the game, or do gens faster. The problem is that base kit when chasing a single Survivor, the other 3 Survivors can finish 3 gens in 1 minute and 30 seconds. Along with that, really good Survivors can take advantage of chaining jungle jims where after the Killer breaks a pallet, the Survivor then goes to the next pallet and stalls more time. When the Survivors are just good at looping the Killer long enough for 3 gens to pop, you already lost. You really can only win if you manage to either get 3 hooks before the first gen pops, or run the 3 or 4 gen regression Perk mera to counter the Survivor meta. In the end, just play what you enjoy, even if you lose because you are inevitably going to lose as either a Survivor or Killer. And don't be mean in end game chat, that just breeds more sweaty and unfun behavior. I am a Shape main and love running Undetectable perks to be stealthy, because I love stealth in games, and I often lose because I have no gen regression perks. But I play my way, and have fun my way, which is fine.
with most of my matches being against ring blights and nurses and most of the chases perks like dead hard and made for this getting nerfed i see stealth is the best meta for survs right now, killers will have perks like pop and pain res 90% of the time, staying hidden and denying those 2 perks is the only way you'd play a fair game, im not a surv main, nor a killer main either but killers mains just want their game to be a smooth sailing with 12 hook and no gen getting done
it’s so funny because people can just play the game normally as killer and just look for survivors normally instead of relying on aura perks💀💀💀
stop being mad at survivors for running a damn perk when you run perks to reveal their fucking aura like Bruh you’re allowed to bring perks to stop survivors from doing certain things but when we bring perks to stop you doing from a certain thing it’s terrible. Wow maybe just get good at the game if you can’t play the game without some aura perks
i got no clue how can anyone have problem with Distortion. i'm a killer main(Nemesis*) and i barely ever run any aura perks when i play other killers either. aura perks are overpowered on killers like Nurse, Blight, Wesker, Spirit, Huntress, Artist** and survivors should be able to avoid them because 3 first ones are the most popular killers to play as(at least on my MMR as survivor).
yes, Trapper will get the L if everyone runs Distortion and he has decided to go for aura perks but Distortion isn't the problem. small nerf i guess would be acceptable(longer recharge time, for example) but all in all it's a strong perk but definitely not OP. it's mad how killers can complain about that when all m1 killers get completely destroyed from prerunning survivors with Sprint Burst. or when Adrenaline still exists in its natural state, waking you up against Freddy. or Windows of Opportunity on majority of maps making it impossible to catch up to survivors who are worse than you but have a huge crutch in helping them connect loops.
i love Distortion as a survivor, i use it to go for saves unnoticed, to finish important gens, to actually outplay killers who rely too much on aura reading.
*i'm literally in top 20 in downs while contaminated and i started maining him this year only. before him i had a long survivor maining break after the Freddy rework cause i used to be Freddy main and trust me, i mourned his aura reading powers loss more than anyone.
**and don't forget the garbage Plague add-on that chews through tokens and you can't do much because it's either sit on gens injured entire game or give her the power constantly.
I think, when a person says they are not good in chases and they prefer to hide, they DID NOT mean "hiding all the game while my team mates do all the work" but "hide instead of waiting my turn to get chased and work on gens or support in another way".
I know it is better to have mates that are good in chase, take aggro, keep the killer busy, everyone likes that, but do you prefer to have a mate that hides and work on gen or the same mate that got spotted, endure 3 seconds in chase, now the killer knows the weak link and he is going to tunnel him hard?
You prefer that person has distortion, trust me. And again, trust me, the gamers that want to sell your ass will use sole survivor if you nerf distortion.
You speak about mates that do not look behind and bring the killer to the gens.... maybe if you have these persons in the team the real issue is matchmaking and not distortion? Maybe the real issue is you being low MMR if it is not matchmaking? Maybe these people without distortion will be even more a burden for you?
I think you telling them "go play single player games if you are not good!" is dumb! When you started were you good? There are people that play this game only sometimes and will never reach top level, there are people that have full time job and only can play twice or three per day if they can, there are people that only plays because the son or the friend play and they simply want to spend time with them.
Your mindset is so close: I play competitive and team oriented SO everyone must play as me! Everyone must have fun the way I have fun!
I reverse your logic against you then: if you do not want to face distortion players why don't you go and play with your own SWF?
P.s.: i am main killer
I hate the fact that you get tokens for hiding in the terrorradius and getting chased. First of pebble only activates for hiding and is way weaker and second distortion completiy counters im all ears and turns it into a survivor perk, my fixes: reduce tokens to 1 or to 2, i would prefere 1 and tokens should be earned by healing an or doing gens
Here an example why one stack in good enough, imagine this the game starts and killer killer has lethal so your token is gone and the killer goes after another survivor you do 50% of a gen and get your token back, the other survivor goes down and the killer gets barbeque, token gone again and your gens is done, then that survivor is unhooked and floods activates, thats the 3rd aura perk and the first one to show you, that are 3 out of 4 perks the killer is running and you know 2 of them and probably youll know about floods soon
Welp i guess im the worst of the worst cause im a player 2000+ hours and i run both calm spirit and distortion... probably wont take off calm spirit till the ultimate weapon nerf
You not, killers are (skill issue i see for killers complaining about this perk)they relying on aura reading to find survivor learn awareness and learn patterns of survivor. In beginning of match survivor normally spawn other side of map near the farthest gen from killer. Lethal not needed unless you want to snipe with huntress. Killers clutch much on aura reading. Distortion is fine, if want Distortion nerf get rid of 100+ aura reading killer have
Calm spirit and distortion are counters to the things killers want to rely on. So these two perks not broken.
I don’t think the issue is the perks, it’s just game sense and awareness that people don’t have. The toxic gameplay halfway through was just unneeded and makes people who do that worse than the distortion and calm spirit users.
you do look like you would cry about how others play
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@@Aydreinn im sorry i take it back you can touch me if you want
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You act like anyone who uses Distortion who is not in a SWF is just crouch-walking in a corner the whole game. There are some who do that and, yea they suck. But, there are many who play solo Q survivor like myself, who do not like the chase or are just bad at it and would rather avoid getting chased by the killer. They still work on gens and go for unhooks and heals to help out the team. The majority of folks that use Distortion are still helping out in other ways with heals, unhooks, and generators. You're just wrong on this one and that's ok.Nice video and discussion btw. 👍
And killers that runs aura reading perks not bad? 🤔
Majority survivors running distortion is because aura reading it literally a counter and not just to stealth. This shows that alot of killers don't have alot of game awareness.
David deserved better 😔💔
He gonn learn today
No people can just go to another game. If they don’t like how their teammates are playing it’s OK it’s just a game.😂next round can be different
and who says distortion users don’t do anything but hide I literally use distortion all the time doesn’t mean I’m not saving I’m not doing gen or anything and I’m just hiding in a corner. It just means the killer can’t see my aura mean not that the survivor is hiding the whole game.😂😂😂😂
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Can I just say Distortion isn’t even as good as Object? They do the same thing, only difference? Object shows you the killer’s aura and yours isn’t hidden. I don’t see anyone bitching about Object and yet I believe it’s much stronger. I would rather having someone afraid of taking chase and playing stealthy, then getting caught off guard and in a chase they aren’t ready for, than someone cocky and ready for anything knowing EXACTLY where am I at all times. You want distortion to die? The calling out killer aura perks/addons is simply going to be moved to a stronger, better perk. You can bitch and whine and kill distortion, but you WILL be asking for Object Of Obsession to make a comeback. In fact I’m going to started spreading that around. Let’s all become Object users in protest to the Distortion bull.
the thing is with distortion, its not even particularly problematic, it fills a good niche in the perk list, but the fact that it starts out with max stacks AND recharges them while in chase despite being a stealth perk is absolutely insane. it has the same charge requirements as diversion and stake out, but neither of those begin fully charged or charges while in chase.
distortion is only a problem due to how stupid easy it is to get consistent value from it. ive had matches where ive ran a full aura-reading build and in the second half of the match people would STILL be blocking my aura reading because of how ridiculously easy it is to gain tokens. this in turn encourages killers to run full slowdown because, well, slowdown perks will have consistent results and value, whereas running any aura reading perk has the potential to be completely useless against a quad-distortion team, so why bother?
what i would do to change distortion is to make it begin with 1 token (in case the killer is running lethal), and have it not recharge while in chase. maybe also make it take a bit longer to charge.
Isn't charging in chase, incentive to be in a chase?
@@Poc3d no bc it doesnt only charge in chase?
@@koi9826 I see, I misinterpreted it. Thought it only charged in chase. I don't hate the perk but that should be changed.
Wanna know how to beat distortion? Run a bunch of aura reading perks. What them shred the stacks make it hard to keep stacks. It’s really not that hard. Y’all killers today so freaking soft 😂😂 distortion is laughable compared to the stuff we used to deal with back in the day.
when i try to play stealth as survivor i try to use the invisibility to help with flashlight or pallet stun and take agro when needed it's such a shame to see people use stealth as survivor so selfishly. you'll never see me leave a person behind unless that person only cared for themselves. and as a killer main if i notice when a survivor is just hiding and letting people die i work with the other survivor find them.
Remove the ability to hide scratch marks and make it so it only regenerates during chase and you’ve got a decent rework.
Snooze fest video about you being annoyed in solo Q go to bed
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3:20 The problem here is that some survivors focus TOO hard on taking downs or trying to save other survivors. It's like bro, do a gen, if I die you got the gen. I've lost so many games as survivor (and won so many as killer) simply because some survivors try WAY TOO HARD to help survivors that are just a lost cause. The door swings both ways. Someone hiding in a corner all game is playing scummy, but someone that is just good at avoiding the killer so they can finish gens, make saves, give heals, do bones, open gates is going to be the savior of your team. I know because I'm frequently that guy.