As much as he hates on Demians Analogy as it comes off as pretentious he underestimates Human stupidity empathy and lag there of is plenty found in the world.
While it isn’t quite enough to call it a pattern yet, to give Demian some credit, he’s actually been very consistent in his messaging and philosophy: Self-reliance, self-acceptance and not overreaching for things that aren’t ‘you’ or 'yours'. From the way he tried to get Sinclair to stand up to Kromer, his rant about how Yi Sang’s ID tech is cruel theft and you should think about the consequences (Hello Erlking and Every Cathy), and his smug summarisation of the point he was making here.
It makes sense, the dungeons come from the Golden Boughs resonating with someone and warping the space. In this case, the Golden Bough was resonating with Catherine since before the Canto started, that is why the mansion’s layout stopped making sense and the diary had a mind of its own. So the whole Canto was the dungeon
The saying "when you can draw me a sheep" is a reference to the book "The Little Prince" by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. In the story, the Little Prince asks the narrator, an aviator, to draw him a sheep. After several attempts, the aviator draws a box and tells the Little Prince that the sheep he wants is inside the box. The Little Prince is satisfied with this imaginative solution. The phrase can symbolize the importance of creativity, imagination, and seeing beyond the literal. It suggests finding solutions that may not be immediately obvious or conventional and appreciating the value of looking at things with a child's perspective.
the thing about this never happening if they'd just talked to each other is also accurate to the book, in which Catherine has her whole dramatic speech about how she just likes Linton but how she and Heathcliff "Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same; [...] Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He’s always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being", but Heathcliff only hears the part where she says it would degrade her to marry him and leaves. If only she'd said that to him directly, if only he'd stayed for just a line or two more, many "if onlies" that could have avoided everyone suffering from Heathcliff's revenge. I do like how they adapted the book, my only wish is that I wanted to see Cathy speak more for herself, as the cornerstone for everything that happens in there :)
I also appreciate that they voiced the lines with the appropriate drama because characters are so verbose and dramatic about everything, and the movie adaptations I've seen sadly don't reach that level lmao
It's like mirror shards show people what they really want to see. Catherine didn't want to see mirror worlds happy Heathcliff and Catherine - she wanted reassurance that it's all the same and to burn it all down. It provided her with that and connected to Erlking\Every Catherine.
One more detail that i find really neat is how earlcliff and ecathy both appear as a dullahan and banshee respectively both creatures known for causing death whoever is close to them to die
It doesn't deny or invalidate your feelings on him at all but Demian's ending monologue is just drawing a parallel to the rose garden story in the Little Prince and what happened in Canto 6. I thought it was cool. Mixing the Little Prince together with Demian is just fascinating to me and I'm excited to see where they take it.
Also to clarify the Sheep thing, 'The Mark' that Demian and so many others have specifically refers to the Mark of Cain. Yes, that Cain, from the Bible. Who after murdering his brother was branded and made to wander the earth for all of eternity, unable to be harmed or die, a curse that some say was passed down to his decendants. And the catalyst? The Lamb god chose over Cain's harvest. So when Demian talks about drawing him a sheep, well... the allusions to the Reverb Ensemble don't give me the greatest hope.
@ForgottenFafnir actually Abel was the shepherd who offered a lamb and cain was a farmer who offered crops, also one of caine's curse's was than any land he would attempt to tend would wither and be blighted, just to disrespect his profession once more(but more importantly it's to force him to wander the earth)
@@ForgottenFafnir demian's "draw me a sheep" is a clear reference to the little prince, in which the titular little prince requests the narrator to draw him a sheep to help tend to his home planet by eating the baobab saplings that threaten to destroy it. it can't be too big, or it'll try to eat the prince's beloved rose, but it can't be too small or it'll never manage to uproot the saplings. the narrator tries to draw one to the prince's liking as he listens to the stories of his travels. This reference is a continuation to the little prince references that Dante has made, specifically in canto 3 right before Demian shows up, where they urge Sinclair to see "with the heart", also a theme present in the little prince.
Funfact:healthcliff va says that when singing the credit song he was ordered by project moon not to feel relieved, not to feel refeshing and not feel like it's over
@@Schinak We all know that, well at least for me since I've read Divine Comedy already so I knew the existence of Purgatorio and Paradiso. The question now is whether Purgatorio will be about the sinner or Dante, Vergillius, Charon and potentially Beatrice.
This... This is the moment in Limbus Company when I cried. Not just shed some tears or was sitting there with watery eyes... Weeping, losing my shit, drowning my table in tears. Especially the moments when Heath finally confronted Cathy and the song in the end. It took me this long to finally understand the meaning of "Pass on" and what a freakin' timing that was.
One thing about Erlking: He WAS there before Cathy died, it’s implied that he was involved in rigging Hindley’s gambling match to get Catherine the manor. He just lies in wait until each Cathy dies and then hunts the Heathcliff.
This. This is what makes me think that Erlking's quest is born out of envy, not wrath, because not only he doesn't care about Cathy in other worlds, he also doesn't want to see the Heathcliffs of other worlds to be happy. Truly a "you must suffer, like I have" situation.
@@monochrome4937Funnily enough, Erlking also goes on a rampage to kill everyone who he blames for his wife's death ( 21:34 ) I am seeing some parallels here.
@frenchgoose2712 implied that he was the acquaintance that rigged the gambling match? even though that was a pre-laboratory event? the person whose presence requires overlaying his identity onto someone courtesy of N Corp and co. (former Ring members)? an action that's part of the Every Catherine script given to linton once the laboratory is finished, because his sister was used for his first summoning? the person who hermann only says she offers catherine to once she is in the laboratory coffin? it really sounds like this is just a wrong assumption
@kingwatinga3371 I am in agreement that the gambling rigging is shaky assumption, but nevertheless Erlking (or just Heath from another world if anyone wanna be pedantic) already joins the plan since he got to memorize and act out Matthew's character of this world (specifically said so when he was exposed) plus he got control of the entire Dead Rabbit gang, so the period where he begins asserting influence in this world is deceptively much earlier, and one can posit he did more things behind the scene.
@@aereonexapprentice7205 my theory that he was involved in rigging the gambling match is based on the fact that he knew how Hindley lost the match (the Obsidian Grass) and I feel like even Nelly, who was assigned to set up the loss, would have no need to know or remember specifically what cards made Hindley lose the game, AND we know that N Corp has made other labs and likely even has its own lab given how they were able to produce the mirror to give to Nelly on a whim, along with there being many other people in the New League of Nine besides Aseah who could run a lab. The last piece of evidence is that Isabella, the “dough” for MattCliff, had been gone for months or years, meaning there’s a wide period of time between her leaving and Cathy dying where she could be made into “dough”
Heathking the Erlcliff If you told me back in episode 1 that Heathcliff would become one of my favorite Sinners, I would probably believe you because I trust PM's writing BUT seeing the execution in action really hits hard. Also I'm curious if this 'river' that courses through the mansion is related to the Well.
I remember foremans favorite characters being gregor and heathcliff back then... both lost something and the golden bough too... ironic that when you mix both gregor and heathcliff pass on it even sounded so good... And congrats foreman your nearly catching on
@@wymarsane7305 which makes two... a couple, therefore in the PM universe couples gets a tragic end well mostly hell even enemies side lol...... I wonder what will it be for dante and beatrice
I really do love what they did with Erlking Heathcliff. He is simultaneously a reflection of Heath's worst aspects, a character that represents the book-accurate Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights, and the embodiment of Heathcliff's own self-loathing and insecurities. Best antagonist thus far in my opinion. Especially since SPOILERS The Edgar family Upties reveal that even after Catherine erases herself from every single Mirror World, he still goes back to Wuthering Heights to kill everyone for revenge. His obsessive desire for revenge had nothing to do with Catherine, he's just an ugly, broken, insecure man who can't move on from how badly he was treated at Wuthering Heights. He simply lashed out at everything he thought was the cause of the misery he was suffering, whether it was Hindley, Nelly or even himself (other versions of himself).
@@Schinak Spoilers for out of game news: He’s literally been confirmed in the dev stream and even showcased some early animation artwork. It’s was never copium, it was just farm watchers being stupid af as always
Canto 6 is one of my most beloved stories by far, largely because it's something I can relate to, dearly. As someone who has recently gotten in a relationship... man, Heathcliff and Catherine's tragedy just hits so much harder. This Canto holds a lot of memories for me - A few too personal to publicly state, but the point is... I love this canto. It singlehandedly made Heathcliff one of the characters I like the most out of the whole cast. That's saying something, given the fact he was somewhere in the middle of the pack before this moment.
The river of the collective human psyche and they want something primal in origins and it possibly relates to the mirror worlds what could it be. Maybie they want something some primal human psychological thing that existed before or near the splintering of timelines or something of that effect
@@Plaugus_Screenz Watch them be the good guys in the end 😭😂 like, something awful has happened in the past and the reason why the Head is so adamant about preserving "true humanity" now is very valid 💀
@@Plaugus_Screenz considering all tech in the city seems to have a strange distinct origin, and use from humans and the current absolute fucked state of the city, it's probably real bad like bad enough to get the head involved
@@vyckygy6626I'm sure the Head has its reasons. However, I doubt that they are particularly good reasons. Considering that Angela interacted with EGO and the Light in exactly the same way as humans, I think that there is no difference between a human soul and a robot soul. Plus, (as far as we know) the Head was completely unaware of the existence of any river until Carmen and her research team found it. I believe that the goal of the Head is to keep the City intact. As far as we know, the City is the last place where humanity survives. If the City falls to chaos, humanity will die. In this way, the ultra-competitive capitalism of the City is the Head's way of preventing anyone from organizing any chaos large enough to destabilize the City (since everybody is too busy fighting their neighbors to think about any grand plans.) The ability to create armies of souls loyal to one cause (cloning and making AI) would allow a person to get a large enough army to threaten the stability of the City without losing it to internal competition. Therefore, the Head stops any such dangerous activity before it can get up to speed.
God this ending is just so incredibly good. Also I'm genuinely quite impressed that you beat the fight with Potential Man, because Heath is supposed to be able to just tank and ignore all of Erlking's attacks in that final phase but Potential Man would corrode and kill your whole team if you did that so it was significantly harder than it should have been, hell even with HarpoonerHeath i only had 3 sinners left by the end of the fight so I'm genuinely quite impressed you still managed to win, good job Manager Esquire, you've come far.
If there is one thing I am sad about regarding this playthrough, it would be the fact that 5-30 was dealt with in episode 31 and that 6-48 happened in episode 49. We were so close to greatness.
@@ForemanPlaysStuff To "um ackchyally" you because I am a bloody nerd; its semi-weekly. That aside great vid as always, and to anyone scrolling down here please point and laugh at the nerd that I am.
Genuinely, I hope we get a canto where someone sits the main enemy down and puts them through a therapy session. No, not sit down, actively kick their ass while breaking down their philosophy and pushing them towards an epiphany like in LoR with those attack therapy sessions Angela and Roland went through.
I think that the community in general has very high expectations for canto 7, and I'm concerned about whether it'll live up to the hype (considering that heathcliff's was starting to set up since mid-canto 5), but at this point I'm reassured that project moon can deliver quality stories at the very least :)
Best canto for the best character! (sorry, Yi Sang, I love you) The next canto I'm looking forward to is Hong Lu's canto 🤔 I'm so curious about him and his family.
THE BUCKET AND THE WELL THE COGITO THE EGO FACE THE FEAR BUILD THE FUTURE THE BINAH AND THE BUCKET PULL THE BUCKET THE ABNORMALITIES THE DISTORTIONS THE RIVER THE BRAIN THE SUBCONSCIOUS BUILD THE FEAR SAVE THE FUTURE SAVE THE EGO AND ALEPH THE MANAGER AND AYIN THE PLAN THE SCRIPT THE LIGHT AND SEED OF LIGHT
AYOOOOOO THE RIVER THAT LEADS TO THE SEA OF THE COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS MENTIONED IN LOBOTOMY CORP MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Which honestly if limbus company were to every experiment with making abnos wuthering heights would be the best place to do it
All I can do is clap, really. When I finished this canto myself that's all I did. Also, damnit Ryoshu you had ONE JOB. Anyways, I find myself much more attached to Nelly even when she betrayed us because I'm excited for how she appears as a future antagonist as Hermann's team. Especially with what her own personal wish is. The first thing she does after being freed from her duties is to take the dough back to Hermann? Its also what made me really interested in what Hermann plans to do with Ahab as well. With how Hermann is now visibly tampering with IDs and stuff, I wonder if she'll put on IDs for the people under her... Last thing, can I just say that a slowed instrumental of Through Patches of Violet absolutely SLAPS?! I NEED that.
and now that canto 6 is completed, heathcliffs LCB sinner appearance changes in combat, not only that, if you go through the heathcliff ID's, any mention of catherine, like peqod heaths defeat quote, N cliffs death quote, and N cliffs uptie story, any mention of cathy/catherine will be censored and replaced with static, erased, because only LCB sinner heath and dante remember
Next video, will most likely be a tier list one but also do something special. Try to hear all the voicelines of either N. Corp Heathcliff or Pequod Harpooner Heathcliff.
it's funny how you mentioned heathcliff as the 7th sinner because he's in the seven, since almost all the sinners line up with the nationality of the associations. yi sang the first sinner is korean, faust is german, don is spanish, ryoshu is japanese, muersault is french, and so on
"I think people will be slightly disappointed with Canto 7" I really really doubt that, just because Don is the definite fan favourite character in this game lol. The Canto could just be about her buying ICE-CREEEEEEEEAM and screaming about random stuff and it'll probably be enough for a lot of people. That being said, each Canto I feel like maintains a generally high level of quality, so it mostly comes down to preferences in what the Canto is about. Canto 7 is probably going to have some dark carnival/mental asylum vibes that people will just find to be more cool than a seafaring adventure or a haunted mansion story. I myself really am looking forward to a twisted circus kinda theme and if it delivers well on that than it will probably be my favourite. But anyways! Congrats on making it to the end! Great playthrough as always. For me Canto 6 is really good because it proves that PM isn't going to make this formulaic. Going into the canto I was afraid that it'd end with another big climatic EGO finish as the music swells for the finish, but instead we got the big EGO moment in Part 2, and everything after that just felt like unexplored territory. Meursault gets to have his EGO cutscene?! Vergil makes an appearance!? What Canto 6 proved to me is that Limbus is going to be a wild ride, and now I'm fully strapped in for it.
I say great playthrough but I've yet to fully watch the vid lol, I just kinda know by know that a great playthrough is what I can expect out of these vids.
Last time someone with a half-baked EGO and a dream was inside a Circus things ended with wax children and a ensemble. Let's Hope that Don don't meet the same fate.
I think that Foreman still resfuses to see Don as anything but a comic relief character. Or he doesn't believe PM can top the current canto, which has been consistently proven wrong with each new canto
@@ForemanPlaysStuff umm technically it's part50 if you included ep0🤓 but i like it this way more idk why. maybe because part 50 is the start of second half the Inferno just like ep0 start of the Inferno but the same can be said for if it started at ep 1...lol
Been looking forward to this for quite a while, amazing canto. Anyways I counted 7 mid-roll ads interrupting the action, feels like they've gotten worse especially because you're probably not the one profiting from the ads because of the copyright thingy. Remember to read the uptie 3 stories for your characters after this, love seeing people react to them.
Catherine saying she no longer fears the ghost cuz fear comes from ignorance of the origin literally happened in part two or one of the Canto but now its being recontextualized here with more information im going mental
It really isnt close. The height of Canto 4 is still the highest single emotional point, for me, but everything else about this one is heads and shoulders above the rest. I genuinely cant imagine them making 7 nearly as climactic as this one, but I wont complain if im wrong.
I'm really genuinely so worried for canto 7, because Don Quixote is my favorite sinner, but i just dont see how you can top a canto that has Vergilius' intervention and the first time a sinner distorts, on top of the rest of the top tier story. I just don't know what she can pull out that's as impactful as any of those things, and re-treading ground is never going to be as good as the first time. Also i reccomend reading the little prince in relation to demian.
@@sleepylad951 my big wish for canto 7 is that we'll fight don but she *doesn't* distort, she's just experienced something so shocking that she begins to consider everything apart from her as enemies, including us. This is purely bc of her line in her trailer video, where she sees something so wrong that she denies it and starts saying that "this must be an illusion conjured by evil beings to deceive me!" or something similar. I think it would be cool :)
@@aceisawesome_ That's actually not a bad idea, an additional bit of supporting evidence that could foreshadow that is when she's beating up sinclair she mentions how her old friends would have to beat her senseless to get her to stop rampaging.
@@stuckerfan2563 I theorize she will manifest ego. Though (spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!) In Murder On the Warp Express, she is revealed to be smthin more powerful
"I have a feeling this is the end..." Because it is the end, Executive Manager, and you did an excellent job getting all the way here~ That final fight was so damn clutch, and all of the SP healing at the end was the main reason why I've been saying SunHeath falls off. Despite the unlucky rolls (at 45 SP too for some), you managed to win. Amazing! Again, excellent work~ I can't wait to see how PM's gonna top this Canto PS: if a mini cover album does end up being a thing, might I suggest the name "Foreman Plays Music" to be it's title or something like it? Just suggestion lol
@@bestaround3323 Soon he will learn that Fluid Sac is not for clashing dangerous stuff, Fluid Sac is for throwing at a guaranteed win so there's no chance you dont get your heals.
Canto 6 really was amazing and I have no clue how they are going to top it with Canto 7, or if they even will be able to. Apart from what you mentioned at the end about the comedy and stuff, I feel like they nailed down the balance between fights and story for this canto, there didn't feel like there was many unnecessary fights(like in canto 4, which while I really liked, it had a lot of fights which kinda drags out the pacing a bit)
Fun fact: after this point, all ID voicelines that refer to Catherine are erased and replaced with white noise, visually represented by ■■■■■. Poor Heathcliff.
Suggestion: run a 5 ID team. I'd argue that having your main unit be able to have 2 attack slots is superior over a 6th (and arguably not as good) team member. For an example, Ryoshu doesn't help with sinking, Maid Ishmael's not that great, Butler Faust is Butler Outis but worse, etc. Not only that, but managing potential man's sanity is much easier with 2 slots.
2:09:06 Demian is always ambiguous and mysterious that people often associate him as edgy or atleast "flowery". Although I love your hate for him, he is simply just written as that to be some sort of "Guide" or a "Messiah" figure that seemingly knows everything on every precarious situation. As if questioning dante what has he learned or atleast gained from every canto. In short: His a damn naughty brat that is like the tip screen on every end of a chapter.
Demian's goal is somewhat discernable from what we know right now, but it also requires one to be knee-deep in the lore (and implied lore) so he really comes off as if he's spouting nonsense most of the time lmao
I will say, your mistake was not Ryoshu's SYNC clashing. Your mistake was letting Heathcliff corrode twice, tank your resources, and then slowly claw tooth and nail from the brink edging death for 10+ turns. Hype moment though, i just hope you continue on... and don't be scared to really level yourself, new stuff is always extra hard.
Congrats on beating the Canto dude!, pretty sure you beat it like yesterday I think while I beat it today, I was close but we technically beat it at the same time so yeah :D
I'm gonna say that pale apparition was a Phantom: -Spirit Box (Mirror) -Observing her drained the sanity of her viewer rapidly. If said viewer existed. The lass in the coffin, on the other hand, was a Moroi: -Spirit Box (Dante's Device) -Ghost Writing -events accelerated as people went insane -Moroi in Romanian Folklore are vampires that practiced vampirism while alive
1:49:24 Foreman, my guy, if you had pressed a few more times, the game would have crushed to desktop and you would have had to repeat the entire fight, thank god you pressed Clear All Cathy💀
17:08 I would honestly be very scared to do that, he has the determination to kill all Heathcliffs if you challenge that, if you challenge his very existence, he may very well distort on you. (Jokes aside, if you put literally all Lob corp through therapy half the shit that has happened wouldn't have happened)
I absolutely disagree that 7 will be disappointing. And not just because Don is my favorite sinner. From what little we know it's shaping up to be absolutely incredible. And Honestly I didn't think they'd easily top canto 5, they've consistently been one upping themselves in quality. And I'm absolutely ready to see our adorable gremlin get mind broken. Edit: also empathy is NOT a thing everyone has in the city, it's severely lacking on that.
Didn't kim jihoon said this one doesn't feel on par smt like that? I think I saw that in the Livestream. Also yeah the last fight is pretty much scripted if you just rush heathcliff at the beginning
How much I wished for another
Better, happier, brighter future discord.gg/foremanplaysstuff
Here I am, at the gate I stand
Dear old times
I've made up my minds
You and your dungeon obsession.
How much you must have suffered from my anger ~ ~ ~ How much you must have overlooked
How much you must have suffered through my anger
(How much you must have overlooked your wonder)
Foreman's hate for Demian demonstrate that goths and theater kids will always be enemies.
this should be the top comment 😭
As much as he hates on Demians Analogy as it comes off as pretentious he underestimates Human stupidity empathy and lag there of is plenty found in the world.
Don't let the peak and cinema distract you from the fact Dante now has the highest kill count ever: Infinite.
Few picked up on that
That's my Manager~ Gaining a kill count rivaling the Doctor of War, Doctor Who himself. Excellent work fr fr
Giorno got some competition
Move, Pianist, Dante is here
excellent work, executive manager!
While it isn’t quite enough to call it a pattern yet, to give Demian some credit, he’s actually been very consistent in his messaging and philosophy: Self-reliance, self-acceptance and not overreaching for things that aren’t ‘you’ or 'yours'. From the way he tried to get Sinclair to stand up to Kromer, his rant about how Yi Sang’s ID tech is cruel theft and you should think about the consequences (Hello Erlking and Every Cathy), and his smug summarisation of the point he was making here.
I honestly liked PM not doing a dungeon and just making the whole Canto itself the experience.
This canto made me tear up a bit, peak 10/10
It makes sense, the dungeons come from the Golden Boughs resonating with someone and warping the space.
In this case, the Golden Bough was resonating with Catherine since before the Canto started, that is why the mansion’s layout stopped making sense and the diary had a mind of its own.
So the whole Canto was the dungeon
I cackled so fucking hard at Ryoshu’s blunder against that AOE, it was peak hubris yet still completely undeserved
The saying "when you can draw me a sheep" is a reference to the book "The Little Prince" by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. In the story, the Little Prince asks the narrator, an aviator, to draw him a sheep. After several attempts, the aviator draws a box and tells the Little Prince that the sheep he wants is inside the box. The Little Prince is satisfied with this imaginative solution.
The phrase can symbolize the importance of creativity, imagination, and seeing beyond the literal. It suggests finding solutions that may not be immediately obvious or conventional and appreciating the value of looking at things with a child's perspective.
the thing about this never happening if they'd just talked to each other is also accurate to the book, in which Catherine has her whole dramatic speech about how she just likes Linton but how she and Heathcliff "Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same; [...] Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He’s always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being", but Heathcliff only hears the part where she says it would degrade her to marry him and leaves. If only she'd said that to him directly, if only he'd stayed for just a line or two more, many "if onlies" that could have avoided everyone suffering from Heathcliff's revenge. I do like how they adapted the book, my only wish is that I wanted to see Cathy speak more for herself, as the cornerstone for everything that happens in there :)
I also appreciate that they voiced the lines with the appropriate drama because characters are so verbose and dramatic about everything, and the movie adaptations I've seen sadly don't reach that level lmao
This.
It's like mirror shards show people what they really want to see. Catherine didn't want to see mirror worlds happy Heathcliff and Catherine - she wanted reassurance that it's all the same and to burn it all down. It provided her with that and connected to Erlking\Every Catherine.
In the end it was as she said. She didn't give a shit about other Heathcliffs or Catherine's. She only had eyes for her Heathcliff.
One more detail that i find really neat is how earlcliff and ecathy both appear as a dullahan and banshee respectively
both creatures known for causing death whoever is close to them to die
It doesn't deny or invalidate your feelings on him at all but Demian's ending monologue is just drawing a parallel to the rose garden story in the Little Prince and what happened in Canto 6. I thought it was cool. Mixing the Little Prince together with Demian is just fascinating to me and I'm excited to see where they take it.
Also to clarify the Sheep thing, 'The Mark' that Demian and so many others have specifically refers to the Mark of Cain. Yes, that Cain, from the Bible. Who after murdering his brother was branded and made to wander the earth for all of eternity, unable to be harmed or die, a curse that some say was passed down to his decendants.
And the catalyst? The Lamb god chose over Cain's harvest. So when Demian talks about drawing him a sheep, well... the allusions to the Reverb Ensemble don't give me the greatest hope.
@ForgottenFafnir actually Abel was the shepherd who offered a lamb and cain was a farmer who offered crops, also one of caine's curse's was than any land he would attempt to tend would wither and be blighted, just to disrespect his profession once more(but more importantly it's to force him to wander the earth)
@@ForgottenFafnir demian's "draw me a sheep" is a clear reference to the little prince, in which the titular little prince requests the narrator to draw him a sheep to help tend to his home planet by eating the baobab saplings that threaten to destroy it. it can't be too big, or it'll try to eat the prince's beloved rose, but it can't be too small or it'll never manage to uproot the saplings. the narrator tries to draw one to the prince's liking as he listens to the stories of his travels. This reference is a continuation to the little prince references that Dante has made, specifically in canto 3 right before Demian shows up, where they urge Sinclair to see "with the heart", also a theme present in the little prince.
@@scruffles3838 oh I am dumb. I'll fix my reply. Admittedly I have not read the Bible in a long time.
@@scruffles3838 OH OF COURSE, right. Because ever since then the Lamb has been a sacred symbol of YHWH. Duh.
Funfact:healthcliff va says that when singing the credit song he was ordered by project moon not to feel relieved, not to feel refeshing and not feel like it's over
Holy…
Because it's not. PM confirmed they are going to do Limbo and Paradiso on top of Inferno
@HarambaeXelonmuskfans We all know Meursault would be the undisputed king at that
@@Schinak We all know that, well at least for me since I've read Divine Comedy already so I knew the existence of Purgatorio and Paradiso. The question now is whether Purgatorio will be about the sinner or Dante, Vergillius, Charon and potentially Beatrice.
@@Schinak Where did they specifically confirm that?
This... This is the moment in Limbus Company when I cried. Not just shed some tears or was sitting there with watery eyes... Weeping, losing my shit, drowning my table in tears.
Especially the moments when Heath finally confronted Cathy and the song in the end. It took me this long to finally understand the meaning of "Pass on" and what a freakin' timing that was.
I loved that realization about the song. Such perfectly honest reactions are why I watch these canto reactions for
One thing about Erlking: He WAS there before Cathy died, it’s implied that he was involved in rigging Hindley’s gambling match to get Catherine the manor. He just lies in wait until each Cathy dies and then hunts the Heathcliff.
This. This is what makes me think that Erlking's quest is born out of envy, not wrath, because not only he doesn't care about Cathy in other worlds, he also doesn't want to see the Heathcliffs of other worlds to be happy. Truly a "you must suffer, like I have" situation.
@@monochrome4937Funnily enough, Erlking also goes on a rampage to kill everyone who he blames for his wife's death ( 21:34 ) I am seeing some parallels here.
@frenchgoose2712 implied that he was the acquaintance that rigged the gambling match? even though that was a pre-laboratory event? the person whose presence requires overlaying his identity onto someone courtesy of N Corp and co. (former Ring members)? an action that's part of the Every Catherine script given to linton once the laboratory is finished, because his sister was used for his first summoning? the person who hermann only says she offers catherine to once she is in the laboratory coffin? it really sounds like this is just a wrong assumption
@kingwatinga3371 I am in agreement that the gambling rigging is shaky assumption, but nevertheless Erlking (or just Heath from another world if anyone wanna be pedantic) already joins the plan since he got to memorize and act out Matthew's character of this world (specifically said so when he was exposed) plus he got control of the entire Dead Rabbit gang, so the period where he begins asserting influence in this world is deceptively much earlier, and one can posit he did more things behind the scene.
@@aereonexapprentice7205 my theory that he was involved in rigging the gambling match is based on the fact that he knew how Hindley lost the match (the Obsidian Grass) and I feel like even Nelly, who was assigned to set up the loss, would have no need to know or remember specifically what cards made Hindley lose the game, AND we know that N Corp has made other labs and likely even has its own lab given how they were able to produce the mirror to give to Nelly on a whim, along with there being many other people in the New League of Nine besides Aseah who could run a lab. The last piece of evidence is that Isabella, the “dough” for MattCliff, had been gone for months or years, meaning there’s a wide period of time between her leaving and Cathy dying where she could be made into “dough”
Heathking the Erlcliff
If you told me back in episode 1 that Heathcliff would become one of my favorite Sinners, I would probably believe you because I trust PM's writing BUT seeing the execution in action really hits hard.
Also I'm curious if this 'river' that courses through the mansion is related to the Well.
Would be funny if Don's chapter would be like: You thought this one was good? Hold my beer.
I kneel!!
@@GreggTheGrimReaper That's just been every Canto since 4 lol.
"Canto 4 is PEAK"
"Canto 5 is PEAK"
"Canto 6 is PEAK"
@@kamanira Even 3 was pretty good. Everything 3 and onward has been great.
I remember foremans favorite characters being gregor and heathcliff back then... both lost something and the golden bough too...
ironic that when you mix both gregor and heathcliff pass on it even sounded so good...
And congrats foreman your nearly catching on
The same damn bough even.
@@wymarsane7305 which makes two... a couple, therefore in the PM universe couples gets a tragic end well mostly hell even enemies side lol......
I wonder what will it be for dante and beatrice
I really do love what they did with Erlking Heathcliff. He is simultaneously a reflection of Heath's worst aspects, a character that represents the book-accurate Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights, and the embodiment of Heathcliff's own self-loathing and insecurities.
Best antagonist thus far in my opinion. Especially since SPOILERS
The Edgar family Upties reveal that even after Catherine erases herself from every single Mirror World, he still goes back to Wuthering Heights to kill everyone for revenge. His obsessive desire for revenge had nothing to do with Catherine, he's just an ugly, broken, insecure man who can't move on from how badly he was treated at Wuthering Heights. He simply lashed out at everything he thought was the cause of the misery he was suffering, whether it was Hindley, Nelly or even himself (other versions of himself).
That's not what those scenes mean at all but erlking copium huffers insist on it
@@Schinak Well, is it still copium at this point? aha.
@@Schinak Spoilers for out of game news:
He’s literally been confirmed in the dev stream and even showcased some early animation artwork. It’s was never copium, it was just farm watchers being stupid af as always
@@Schinak Average non-believer
@@freddywright4239It seems the farm watchers are envious and only want people to suffer as they have
absolutely did not expect foreman to go low tier god on erlking heath at 22:54 but I am for it
Canto 6 is one of my most beloved stories by far, largely because it's something I can relate to, dearly. As someone who has recently gotten in a relationship... man, Heathcliff and Catherine's tragedy just hits so much harder. This Canto holds a lot of memories for me - A few too personal to publicly state, but the point is... I love this canto.
It singlehandedly made Heathcliff one of the characters I like the most out of the whole cast. That's saying something, given the fact he was somewhere in the middle of the pack before this moment.
The river that Cathy mentions seems to be the same river that Binah mentions in lobcorp; related to how abnos come into existence.
which makes Herman's interest in it an even MORE APOCALYPTIC GRADE OF NOPE
The river of the collective human psyche and they want something primal in origins and it possibly relates to the mirror worlds what could it be.
Maybie they want something some primal human psychological thing that existed before or near the splintering of timelines or something of that effect
@@Plaugus_Screenz Watch them be the good guys in the end 😭😂 like, something awful has happened in the past and the reason why the Head is so adamant about preserving "true humanity" now is very valid 💀
@@Plaugus_Screenz
considering all tech in the city seems to have a strange distinct origin, and use from humans and the current absolute fucked state of the city, it's probably real bad like bad enough to get the head involved
@@vyckygy6626I'm sure the Head has its reasons. However, I doubt that they are particularly good reasons. Considering that Angela interacted with EGO and the Light in exactly the same way as humans, I think that there is no difference between a human soul and a robot soul. Plus, (as far as we know) the Head was completely unaware of the existence of any river until Carmen and her research team found it.
I believe that the goal of the Head is to keep the City intact. As far as we know, the City is the last place where humanity survives. If the City falls to chaos, humanity will die. In this way, the ultra-competitive capitalism of the City is the Head's way of preventing anyone from organizing any chaos large enough to destabilize the City (since everybody is too busy fighting their neighbors to think about any grand plans.) The ability to create armies of souls loyal to one cause (cloning and making AI) would allow a person to get a large enough army to threaten the stability of the City without losing it to internal competition. Therefore, the Head stops any such dangerous activity before it can get up to speed.
This canto is the livid examplo as to why communication is important between a couple
I am pretty sure that the "river" mentioned here is the same as the one mentioned in Lob corp. I am like 99.9(9)% sure
God this ending is just so incredibly good.
Also I'm genuinely quite impressed that you beat the fight with Potential Man, because Heath is supposed to be able to just tank and ignore all of Erlking's attacks in that final phase but Potential Man would corrode and kill your whole team if you did that so it was significantly harder than it should have been, hell even with HarpoonerHeath i only had 3 sinners left by the end of the fight so I'm genuinely quite impressed you still managed to win, good job Manager Esquire, you've come far.
2:06:54 he is making a reference to his book, the little prince
Demian is yet just a walking Little Prince reference
If there is one thing I am sad about regarding this playthrough, it would be the fact that 5-30 was dealt with in episode 31 and that 6-48 happened in episode 49.
We were so close to greatness.
@HarambaeXelonmuskfansPerfect
36 views in 3 minutes? Bro is heading up in life
Your pfp speaks alot about you
@@badiskool9159 woah woah woah, hes uplifting thw guy
@@badiskool9159what is your problem
Its always encouraging to see people turn up for the bi-weekly Limbus fun times
@@ForemanPlaysStuff To "um ackchyally" you because I am a bloody nerd; its semi-weekly.
That aside great vid as always, and to anyone scrolling down here please point and laugh at the nerd that I am.
Genuinely, I hope we get a canto where someone sits the main enemy down and puts them through a therapy session. No, not sit down, actively kick their ass while breaking down their philosophy and pushing them towards an epiphany like in LoR with those attack therapy sessions Angela and Roland went through.
People overrate therapy to much. Heatcliff needed to see a living example of his mistake, you cant talk every human down.
Heathcliff and Catherine are truly made for each other
Demian is always referenciating the little prince.
Imo it is a must read book and an introduction to filosofy
I think that the community in general has very high expectations for canto 7, and I'm concerned about whether it'll live up to the hype (considering that heathcliff's was starting to set up since mid-canto 5), but at this point I'm reassured that project moon can deliver quality stories at the very least :)
Nah we need a cooldown, like a better canto 2
I'm presuming their expectations come from Don's popularity.
Best canto for the best character! (sorry, Yi Sang, I love you)
The next canto I'm looking forward to is Hong Lu's canto 🤔 I'm so curious about him and his family.
i stand by josophine drinking from the river wouldve been amazing just seeing a monsterized josephine it always comes back to that stupid well
THE BUCKET AND THE WELL THE COGITO THE EGO FACE THE FEAR BUILD THE FUTURE THE BINAH AND THE BUCKET PULL THE BUCKET THE ABNORMALITIES THE DISTORTIONS THE RIVER THE BRAIN THE SUBCONSCIOUS BUILD THE FEAR SAVE THE FUTURE SAVE THE EGO AND ALEPH THE MANAGER AND AYIN THE PLAN THE SCRIPT THE LIGHT AND SEED OF LIGHT
AYOOOOOO
THE RIVER THAT LEADS TO THE SEA OF THE COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS MENTIONED IN LOBOTOMY CORP MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Which honestly if limbus company were to every experiment with making abnos wuthering heights would be the best place to do it
Your rant about just talking to the “bad guys” made me imagine one day we get a therapist ID and it’s the strongest ID In the game
All I can do is clap, really. When I finished this canto myself that's all I did.
Also, damnit Ryoshu you had ONE JOB.
Anyways, I find myself much more attached to Nelly even when she betrayed us because I'm excited for how she appears as a future antagonist as Hermann's team. Especially with what her own personal wish is. The first thing she does after being freed from her duties is to take the dough back to Hermann?
Its also what made me really interested in what Hermann plans to do with Ahab as well. With how Hermann is now visibly tampering with IDs and stuff, I wonder if she'll put on IDs for the people under her...
Last thing, can I just say that a slowed instrumental of Through Patches of Violet absolutely SLAPS?! I NEED that.
and now that canto 6 is completed, heathcliffs LCB sinner appearance changes in combat, not only that, if you go through the heathcliff ID's, any mention of catherine, like peqod heaths defeat quote, N cliffs death quote, and N cliffs uptie story, any mention of cathy/catherine will be censored and replaced with static, erased, because only LCB sinner heath and dante remember
Next video, will most likely be a tier list one but also do something special. Try to hear all the voicelines of either N. Corp Heathcliff or Pequod Harpooner Heathcliff.
welcome back yan from the hit game lobotomy of ruina
it's funny how you mentioned heathcliff as the 7th sinner because he's in the seven, since almost all the sinners line up with the nationality of the associations.
yi sang the first sinner is korean, faust is german, don is spanish, ryoshu is japanese, muersault is french, and so on
"I think people will be slightly disappointed with Canto 7"
I really really doubt that, just because Don is the definite fan favourite character in this game lol. The Canto could just be about her buying ICE-CREEEEEEEEAM and screaming about random stuff and it'll probably be enough for a lot of people. That being said, each Canto I feel like maintains a generally high level of quality, so it mostly comes down to preferences in what the Canto is about. Canto 7 is probably going to have some dark carnival/mental asylum vibes that people will just find to be more cool than a seafaring adventure or a haunted mansion story. I myself really am looking forward to a twisted circus kinda theme and if it delivers well on that than it will probably be my favourite.
But anyways! Congrats on making it to the end! Great playthrough as always. For me Canto 6 is really good because it proves that PM isn't going to make this formulaic. Going into the canto I was afraid that it'd end with another big climatic EGO finish as the music swells for the finish, but instead we got the big EGO moment in Part 2, and everything after that just felt like unexplored territory. Meursault gets to have his EGO cutscene?! Vergil makes an appearance!? What Canto 6 proved to me is that Limbus is going to be a wild ride, and now I'm fully strapped in for it.
I say great playthrough but I've yet to fully watch the vid lol, I just kinda know by know that a great playthrough is what I can expect out of these vids.
Last time someone with a half-baked EGO and a dream was inside a Circus things ended with wax children and a ensemble. Let's Hope that Don don't meet the same fate.
I think that Foreman still resfuses to see Don as anything but a comic relief character. Or he doesn't believe PM can top the current canto, which has been consistently proven wrong with each new canto
Oooh boy... Don is going to have one hell of a canto now.
it would have been so peak if 6-48 was finished in episode 48 but 49 is close enough!
I wish it'd finished on Part 50, I love ending things on round numbers
damn it, I should've looked at the comments before making the same point. Same with 5-30 though
@@ForemanPlaysStuff umm technically it's part50 if you included ep0🤓
but i like it this way more
idk why. maybe because part 50 is the start of second half the Inferno just like ep0 start of the Inferno
but the same can be said for if it started at ep 1...lol
"I don't think it's possible that it's as good as this" Is what EVERY person who completed Canto 3-5 has said before.
Been looking forward to this for quite a while, amazing canto.
Anyways I counted 7 mid-roll ads interrupting the action, feels like they've gotten worse especially because you're probably not the one profiting from the ads because of the copyright thingy.
Remember to read the uptie 3 stories for your characters after this, love seeing people react to them.
HEED MY CALL, WUTHERING HEIGHTS!
Catherine saying she no longer fears the ghost cuz fear comes from ignorance of the origin literally happened in part two or one of the Canto but now its being recontextualized here with more information im going mental
Almighty Kim Jihoon has confirmed that Limbus will carry on for at least 10 years, and will have Inferno, Purgatorio and Paradisio
It really isnt close. The height of Canto 4 is still the highest single emotional point, for me, but everything else about this one is heads and shoulders above the rest.
I genuinely cant imagine them making 7 nearly as climactic as this one, but I wont complain if im wrong.
I'm really genuinely so worried for canto 7, because Don Quixote is my favorite sinner, but i just dont see how you can top a canto that has Vergilius' intervention and the first time a sinner distorts, on top of the rest of the top tier story.
I just don't know what she can pull out that's as impactful as any of those things, and re-treading ground is never going to be as good as the first time.
Also i reccomend reading the little prince in relation to demian.
Some people are theorizing that don will distort
@@stuckerfan2563 I don't fully disagree with that, it just feels like it's gonna have less punch to it since heathcliff did it first.
@@sleepylad951 my big wish for canto 7 is that we'll fight don but she *doesn't* distort, she's just experienced something so shocking that she begins to consider everything apart from her as enemies, including us. This is purely bc of her line in her trailer video, where she sees something so wrong that she denies it and starts saying that "this must be an illusion conjured by evil beings to deceive me!" or something similar. I think it would be cool :)
@@aceisawesome_ That's actually not a bad idea, an additional bit of supporting evidence that could foreshadow that is when she's beating up sinclair she mentions how her old friends would have to beat her senseless to get her to stop rampaging.
@@stuckerfan2563 I theorize she will manifest ego. Though (spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!)
In Murder On the Warp Express, she is revealed to be smthin more powerful
"I have a feeling this is the end..." Because it is the end, Executive Manager, and you did an excellent job getting all the way here~ That final fight was so damn clutch, and all of the SP healing at the end was the main reason why I've been saying SunHeath falls off. Despite the unlucky rolls (at 45 SP too for some), you managed to win. Amazing! Again, excellent work~ I can't wait to see how PM's gonna top this Canto
PS: if a mini cover album does end up being a thing, might I suggest the name "Foreman Plays Music" to be it's title or something like it? Just suggestion lol
man I need to start playing this game now
I think youre the first youtuber that noticed the liric changes after the second Catherine section.
Edit: Out of the ones I've watched at least.
welcome back 얀샋ㄷ요무
OH, i never saw THAT way to end it.
Guess they made fight unlosable if you "close enough" similar to red gayze.
Cannot wait for Don "Dream Ending"
I think Foreman slightly underestimated the dark implications of the Demian's monologue. He's now implying he's down with multiverse genocide.
This Canto is my fav, its has everything. Every Canto has been better than the last so high hopes for Don.
Foreman, now that you have cleared canto 6, it would be great to see your reaction to all the Wuthering Height id stories
don is prepping her toys for canto 7. also yes i know it's a butler figurine she's holding in the frame but i will forever cope it's a roland figurine
also fun fact, the final fight of this canto forced PM to up the minimum system requirements on their store page
The eternal hubris of forgetting that Fluid Sac has a pretty low minimum roll. When in doubt, To Pathos Mathos!
As it turns out, completely unnecessary risks can screw you over
@@bestaround3323 Soon he will learn that Fluid Sac is not for clashing dangerous stuff, Fluid Sac is for throwing at a guaranteed win so there's no chance you dont get your heals.
@@bestaround3323 Oh, and he'll learn that Suddenly One Day isn't worth the resources...
@@xXTheKingEmothXx One day is fine
SAVE FOR WALPURGGIS
If you look closely during the clear all cathy section, one of the heathcliffs is roland @ForemanPlaysStuff
limbus company being the best gacha to see the lore
Canto 6 really was amazing and I have no clue how they are going to top it with Canto 7, or if they even will be able to. Apart from what you mentioned at the end about the comedy and stuff, I feel like they nailed down the balance between fights and story for this canto, there didn't feel like there was many unnecessary fights(like in canto 4, which while I really liked, it had a lot of fights which kinda drags out the pacing a bit)
my favorite part of canto 6 is it all but confirmed that heathcliff is a virgin
Fun fact: after this point, all ID voicelines that refer to Catherine are erased and replaced with white noise, visually represented by ■■■■■. Poor Heathcliff.
Cut Demian some slack he just want to commission Dante for some sheeps drawings
IT’S SO DAMN COOL
Suggestion: run a 5 ID team. I'd argue that having your main unit be able to have 2 attack slots is superior over a 6th (and arguably not as good) team member. For an example, Ryoshu doesn't help with sinking, Maid Ishmael's not that great, Butler Faust is Butler Outis but worse, etc. Not only that, but managing potential man's sanity is much easier with 2 slots.
2:09:06 Demian is always ambiguous and mysterious that people often associate him as edgy or atleast "flowery".
Although I love your hate for him, he is simply just written as that to be some sort of "Guide" or a "Messiah" figure that seemingly knows everything on every precarious situation. As if questioning dante what has he learned or atleast gained from every canto.
In short: His a damn naughty brat that is like the tip screen on every end of a chapter.
I've been saying that the next canto can't be better, since canto 3. They've just been banger after banger each canto
Demian's goal is somewhat discernable from what we know right now, but it also requires one to be knee-deep in the lore (and implied lore) so he really comes off as if he's spouting nonsense most of the time lmao
Flowers are called heath and are next to a cliff.
Heh.
I will say, your mistake was not Ryoshu's SYNC clashing. Your mistake was letting Heathcliff corrode twice, tank your resources, and then slowly claw tooth and nail from the brink edging death for 10+ turns. Hype moment though, i just hope you continue on... and don't be scared to really level yourself, new stuff is always extra hard.
Catherine much like Heathcliff doesn't do alot of thinking
Damn I actually cried...
Man, it’s crazy how Heathcliff visited Wuthering Heights with Limbus Company for no reason and got depressed over an imaginary person.
You finally complete canto 6
Congrats on beating the Canto dude!, pretty sure you beat it like yesterday I think while I beat it today, I was close but we technically beat it at the same time so yeah :D
PEAK voiceacting right here.
I loved Canto 5, I think it’s the closest on par with 6. But man….
Woohooo more limbus
1:04:29 CliffCliff 👍
I think demian is a god, considering he can remember cathy after being erased from existance
36:09 leviathan brother, leviathan
P.E.A.K.
Please make a cover of Through patches of violet!
I'm gonna say that pale apparition was a Phantom:
-Spirit Box (Mirror)
-Observing her drained the sanity of her viewer rapidly. If said viewer existed.
The lass in the coffin, on the other hand, was a Moroi:
-Spirit Box (Dante's Device)
-Ghost Writing
-events accelerated as people went insane
-Moroi in Romanian Folklore are vampires that practiced vampirism while alive
1:49:24 Foreman, my guy, if you had pressed a few more times, the game would have crushed to desktop and you would have had to repeat the entire fight, thank god you pressed Clear All Cathy💀
17:08 I would honestly be very scared to do that, he has the determination to kill all Heathcliffs if you challenge that, if you challenge his very existence, he may very well distort on you. (Jokes aside, if you put literally all Lob corp through therapy half the shit that has happened wouldn't have happened)
people talk? if only all things could be talk away there is a lot cases people doesn't want to be talked with no matter what because they mad
1:43:22 why does the erlking just... die outta nowhere?
Full disclosure, I have absolutely no idea why the fight ended there but I was too grateful to question it
No I think they're asking why the boss fight ended at the exact moment that it did, as in gameplay, not story
@@ForemanPlaysStuff might be a failsafe in case the player flubs it in the final stretch
Apparently during the last phrase, you will survive just after 4 turns
Did Foreman notice the background changing in the 3rd phase into previous Mirror Dungeons or whatever its called?
2:08:50 well this IS the city
I absolutely disagree that 7 will be disappointing. And not just because Don is my favorite sinner. From what little we know it's shaping up to be absolutely incredible. And Honestly I didn't think they'd easily top canto 5, they've consistently been one upping themselves in quality. And I'm absolutely ready to see our adorable gremlin get mind broken.
Edit: also empathy is NOT a thing everyone has in the city, it's severely lacking on that.
philip fight 2.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ey 30 minutes ago, although I can't actually watch this yet since I haven't seen the previous episodes
Didn't kim jihoon said this one doesn't feel on par smt like that? I think I saw that in the Livestream.
Also yeah the last fight is pretty much scripted if you just rush heathcliff at the beginning